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In a message dated 1/11/01 9:47:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ann.williams@... writes:

<< ANYTHING to get my head clear and get me out and about again,

and oh how I miss being able to jump in my little car...! Beofre I do,

though, has anyone here used it? What were the results? >>

Ann, I've had it in a multi that I've used and have not seen much in the way

of results to be honest.

But yesterday my wholistic doctor called me and told me that basically,

they've done all they can, it's not candida, I just must have low seratonin

levels and should go back to a shrink and try new meds. Of course I don't

like this, but have no more money to throw on vitamins and that that aren't

working.

I do have some 5htp in stock that my dentist told me to take but I was

scared, so I did more research on it, and you are supposed to take 100mg 3x a

day to see any difference but loads of people use it in place of SSRI's as

they don't get any chemical side effects this way. I tried paxil for 8 days

and nearly flipped out, hated it, celexa for one day was horrific, lithium

for one day was bad. I've never had mental problems in the past so it was

hard for me to accept this. My friends say I look and sound fine, but I know

I'm not so I'm trying this 5htp for a while to see what happens before I try

another chemical (which I don't want to).

Nastasya

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On 11 Jan 2001, at 12:42, Nastasya1@... wrote:

> But yesterday my wholistic doctor called me and told me that

> basically, they've done all they can, it's not candida

Is this based on test results?

> friends say I look and sound fine, but I know I'm not so I'm trying

> this 5htp for a while to see what happens before I try another

> chemical (which I don't want to).

Good luck with it. Are you going to stay on the list? We do all-

round cheering-up as well as specific candida-related cheering-up,

don't we, guys??

Hang in there,

Ann

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> Afternoon,folks!

>

> Someone on the Forum is raving about the benefits of a supplemet

> called DMAE (2-dimethylaminoethanol) for brain fog - reckons it's

> doen wonders for his memory, made it easier for him to get out and

> about and got him back behind the wheel again. I've done some

> research on the web and seen it touted as an anti-ageing, anti-

> anxiety, IQ-enhancing supplement. I'm tempted to try it -

> ANYTHING to get my head clear and get me out and about again,

> and oh how I miss being able to jump in my little car...! Beofre I

do,

> though, has anyone here used it? What were the results?

>

> It's apparently found naturally in sardines and anchovies, and is

> why fish are supposed to be good 'brain food'. I've been vegetarian

> for 18 years but have really fancied fish lately, for the first

time ever.

> Hmmm.....

>

> Ann

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I think I would be willing to try any supplement for the brain fog.

I can't seem to remember anything anymore. It's worth a try.....

LAH

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I was on Paxil for about a year and it was one of the things I believe contributed to the worsening of my candida. I have taken 5htp with St. 's Wort and it worked well. I liked it A LOT better than Paxil.

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In a message dated 1/11/01 11:58:02 AM Central Standard Time, Nastasya1@... writes:

I do have some 5htp in stock that my dentist told me to take but I was scared, so I did more research on it, and you are supposed to take 100mg 3x a day to see any difference but loads of people use it in place of SSRI's as they don't get any chemical side effects this way. I tried paxil for 8 days and nearly flipped out, hated it, celexa for one day was horrific, lithium for one day was bad. I've never had mental problems in the past so it was hard for me to accept this. My friends say I look and sound fine, but I know I'm not so I'm trying this 5htp for a while to see what happens before I try another chemical (which I don't want to).

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5htp? what's that...I'm still new..don't know what everything is.

in OK

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I was on Paxil for about a year and it was one of the things I believe contributed to the worsening of my candida. I have taken 5htp with St. 's Wort and it worked well. I liked it A LOT better than Paxil. ~ In a message dated 1/11/01 11:58:02 AM Central Standard Time, Nastasya1@... writes:

I do have some 5htp in stock that my dentist told me to take but I was scared, so I did more research on it, and you are supposed to take 100mg 3x a day to see any difference but loads of people use it in place of SSRI's as they don't get any chemical side effects this way. I tried paxil for 8 days and nearly flipped out, hated it, celexa for one day was horrific, lithium for one day was bad. I've never had mental problems in the past so it was hard for me to accept this. My friends say I look and sound fine, but I know I'm not so I'm trying this 5htp for a while to see what happens before I try another chemical (which I don't want to). Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE !

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Hi there. Do you still have the triptophan forbidden?. Greetings.

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:12 -0600

5htp? what's that...I'm still new..don't know what everything is.

in OK

Re: DMAE

I was on Paxil for about a year and it was one of the things I believe

contributed to the worsening of my candida. I have taken 5htp with St.

's Wort and it worked well. I liked it A LOT better than Paxil.

~

In a message dated 1/11/01 11:58:02 AM Central Standard Time,

Nastasya1@... writes:

I do have some 5htp in stock that my dentist told me to take but I was

scared, so I did more research on it, and you are supposed to take

100mg 3x

a

day to see any difference but loads of people use it in place of SSRI's

as

they don't get any chemical side effects this way. I tried paxil for 8

days

and nearly flipped out, hated it, celexa for one day was horrific,

lithium

for one day was bad. I've never had mental problems in the past so it

was

hard for me to accept this. My friends say I look and sound fine, but

I

know

I'm not so I'm trying this 5htp for a while to see what happens before

I

try

another chemical (which I don't want to).

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I think it's a vitamin. You can find 5-HTP near the vitamins at a health store.

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5htp? what's that...I'm

still new..don't know what everything is.

in

OK

Re: DMAE

I was on Paxil for

about a year and it was one of the things I believe

contributed to the

worsening of my candida. I have taken 5htp with St.

's Wort and

it worked well. I liked it A LOT better than Paxil.

~

In a message dated 1/11/01 11:58:02 AM Central Standard

Time,

Nastasya1@... writes:

I do have some 5htp in stock that my dentist told me to take but

I was

scared, so I did more research on it, and you are supposed to take

100mg 3x

a

day to see any difference but loads of people use it in

place of SSRI's as

they don't get any chemical side effects this way.

I tried paxil for 8

days

and nearly flipped out, hated it,

celexa for one day was horrific, lithium

for one day was bad. I've

never had mental problems in the past so it was

hard for me to accept

this. My friends say I look and sound fine, but I

know

I'm not

so I'm trying this 5htp for a while to see what happens before I

try

another chemical (which I don't want to).

Send

blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to

UNSUBSCRIBE !

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Hi Kathy - can you tell me what brand or type of DMAE you use??

Is it mixed in with something. I saw some vitamins at the GNC (I

think) store the other night that were being marketed for Attention

and they had DMAE in them. How much do you give your

daughter? Did you have to start off slowly (I think I read that

somewhere too). This is all new to me - something I just

stumbled on the other day. How did you find out about this?? My

son is also ADD inattentive - in 5th grade. Thanks Sue

PS - do you use the enzymes too?

> Sue,

>

> Hi. I use DMAE for my daughter who has ADD inattentive

disorder. I

> also use Brainchild Nutritionals Graduation Formula. Her

teacher has 2x

> commented to me how much she has improved (3rd grade)!!

It's awesome! There's a

> lot less frustration on my daughter's part so she's a happier kid

and willing to

> take any supplements I give her now that she's proof that they

work!

> Good luck!

> Kathy Green

>

>

>

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> HI - I know a couple of us posted this question last week sometime -

> but since I haven't read any replies - thought I would ask again.

> Has anyone tried using DMAE to help with focus?? I have read some

> good things - but wonder how safe it is - and where to get it , etc.

> Thanks for any help. Sue

I bought DMAE from my local health food store to try with my kids.

#2 did not tolerate it.

#1 told me after about 3-4 days that he was having erections during

the night, sometimes almost painful. This is a reported side effect,

so I stopped giving it.

Good luck.

Dana

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>>Has anyone used DMAE? Were

> your results good or bad?

I tried it for #1 and #2. After a few days, #1 complained that he was

having painful erections during the late evening and night hours,

which is one of the known side effects. So I stopped giving it.

>>Do you know if your child is an over or

> undermethylator?

No, I don't.

Dana

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Kathy (and others)-

I saved your post from 15 November about the DMAE. I want to try it for my son,

who is 6 1/2 years and about 50 pounds.

I was wondering - what brand do you use and what is the recommended dosage and

frequency of dosage? Is there a specific time that it should be given? With or

without food?

I purchased from my local HFS a brand by Country Life called Biochem. The

bottle reads " Coenzymized DMAE 350 mg with PAK and Pantothenic Acid. " From the

supplement facts it looks like the PAK is B6 and the Pantothenic Acid is

d-calcium pantothenate.

Sorry for bogging you down in details; my son is sensitive and I want to make

sure this is okay for him. We tried the ADHD meds and they were a nightmare.

Thanks for all your help!

Lori Getz

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Hi Lori - this is Sue - lurking about and saw your question. WE

too tried ADHD meds which were also a nightmare!!!!We started

DMAE and Omega 3's with my 10 year old son about a month

ago. We are using Attentive Child by Source Naturals. The

directions go by weight. We started with one wafer a day in the

morning to see what would happen and then went to 2 - one in

the morning and one in the evening. We have had the best 2

weeks at home in a long time. (My son is ADHD -H)

Some of the best advice I got from someone on this group was

to join another group - ADHD _drug-free. I have learned

so much - and if your issues are mainly ADHD related - you may

want to go there. In the last month there have been tons of posts

on DMAE.

On another post I will send you a link to the DMAE site I used to

get some info and also a link to the other group - I just can't

figure out how to get it here without losing what I already typed.

Sue

> Kathy (and others)-

>

> I saved your post from 15 November about the DMAE. I want to

try it for my son, who is 6 1/2 years and about 50 pounds.

>

> I was wondering - what brand do you use and what is the

recommended dosage and frequency of dosage? Is there a

specific time that it should be given? With or without food?

>

> I purchased from my local HFS a brand by Country Life called

Biochem. The bottle reads " Coenzymized DMAE 350 mg with

PAK and Pantothenic Acid. " From the supplement facts it looks

like the PAK is B6 and the Pantothenic Acid is d-calcium

pantothenate.

>

> Sorry for bogging you down in details; my son is sensitive and

I want to make sure this is okay for him. We tried the ADHD

meds and they were a nightmare.

>

> Thanks for all your help!

>

> Lori Getz

>

>

>

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Anyone have any experiences or info to share on DMAE? My son's nutritionist

recommended it. Something is irritating him & I wonder if it is that.

Thanks, Michele

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, IF this is what's bothering him, it's making him cranky & irritible &

his auditory sensitivity is worse at times.

Thanks, Michele

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> Michele:

>

> How so is it irritating him?

>

>

> [ ] DMAE

>

>

> Anyone have any experiences or info to share on DMAE? My son's

> nutritionist

> recommended it. Something is irritating him & I wonder if it is that.

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

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Eeeesh. He is non verbal so I wouldn't have known that & I was not warned of

that as a possible side effect. I'm dropping it. Thanks! Michele

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> I gave this to #1 and #2 to help with attention. My #1 reported that

> he was having very painful erections in the evening/night [and he was

> only 10 at the time], which is one of the known side effects, so I

> dropped it.

>

> Dana

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I don't know anything about DMAE or seizures, but that sounds like

something you need to figure out! Hopefully someone here can give

you some insight.

Anne

>

> What effects have people here noticed with DMAE? My son's DAN!

recommended

> trying it to help with his reading deficit. She suggested doing

100 mg,

> twice per day. We are using Kirkman and started last Friday with

100 mg at

> evening only. This morning, I added the 100 mg at morning. He

had a great day at

> school but is off behaviorally at home tonight. Could this be

related to

> DMAE - or is it just a bad day? He does have an epilepsy

diagnosis, with an

> abnormal EEG and a history of absence seizures (none since

October). I was

> reading online somewhere that DMAE could be a problem with

epilepsy. Any

> thought about this? Thanks for all help!

>

>

>

>

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,

We've also been dealing with seizures for a few years. DMAE was one

supp I tried long ago that caused what I now refer to as 'pre-

seizure' behavior: nasty, irritable, black is white kind of

responses - sometimes leads to seizures, sometimes not. You may want

to back off the dose and try a more gradual increase if you wish to

keep using it.

-- In , JLJukoski@... wrote:

>

> What effects have people here noticed with DMAE? My son's DAN!

recommended

> trying it to help with his reading deficit. She suggested doing

100 mg,

> twice per day. We are using Kirkman and started last Friday with

100 mg at

> evening only. This morning, I added the 100 mg at morning. He

had a great day at

> school but is off behaviorally at home tonight. Could this be

related to

> DMAE - or is it just a bad day? He does have an epilepsy

diagnosis, with an

> abnormal EEG and a history of absence seizures (none since

October). I was

> reading online somewhere that DMAE could be a problem with

epilepsy. Any

> thought about this? Thanks for all help!

>

>

>

>

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Try giving extra magnesium to help process the DMAE better.

I would also suggest cutting back to half a cap twice a day, then

building back up to one in the evening and one at breakfast once you

are happy with the lower dose.

Steve

>

> What effects have people here noticed with DMAE? My son's DAN!

recommended

> trying it to help with his reading deficit. She suggested doing

100 mg,

> twice per day. We are using Kirkman and started last Friday with

100 mg at

> evening only. This morning, I added the 100 mg at morning. He

had a great day at

> school but is off behaviorally at home tonight. Could this be

related to

> DMAE - or is it just a bad day? He does have an epilepsy

diagnosis, with an

> abnormal EEG and a history of absence seizures (none since

October). I was

> reading online somewhere that DMAE could be a problem with

epilepsy. Any

> thought about this? Thanks for all help!

>

>

>

>

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DMAE, not for us either, caused very spacey behaviors and staring spells. We

were glad we used the 1/4 capsule rule to start anything.

[ ] Re: DMAE

,

We've also been dealing with seizures for a few years. DMAE was one

supp I tried long ago that caused what I now refer to as 'pre-

seizure' behavior: nasty, irritable, black is white kind of

responses - sometimes leads to seizures, sometimes not. You may want

to back off the dose and try a more gradual increase if you wish to

keep using it.

-- In , JLJukoski@... wrote:

>

> What effects have people here noticed with DMAE? My son's DAN!

recommended

> trying it to help with his reading deficit. She suggested doing

100 mg,

> twice per day. We are using Kirkman and started last Friday with

100 mg at

> evening only. This morning, I added the 100 mg at morning. He

had a great day at

> school but is off behaviorally at home tonight. Could this be

related to

> DMAE - or is it just a bad day? He does have an epilepsy

diagnosis, with an

> abnormal EEG and a history of absence seizures (none since

October). I was

> reading online somewhere that DMAE could be a problem with

epilepsy. Any

> thought about this? Thanks for all help!

>

>

>

>

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> What effects have people here noticed with DMAE?

I tried DMAE with two of my kids. One of them reported painful

erections in the evening hours [and he was only 10 at the time], and

that is one of the known side effects. So I stopped using it.

My kids have never had seizures, thankfully.

Dana

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