OT but a dog info needed

[Guest guest]

We have a border collie mix dog that is about a year and a half old.

We have had her since last November and she has been a great family

dog even with my darling until recently.

The dog has had some what I would call some agression issues she had

not displayed before. She never snapped at (he is 3.5 years

old) , growled or any thing like that until two weeks ago. She has

NOT bitten him but has displayed some jealousy as well when playing

with the family and is involved. She has also started trying

to eat 's food as well, which had not happend before.

I wondered if there were any other dog lovers that had some

suggestions on how we can change this because my concern is if this

continues we will have to find an alternate residence for our dog.

We dont need afraid of the dog and I dont want to isolate

the dog from the family either.

Some people have told me to get rid of her. But I am hoping there

are alternatives. I would rather try to find a way to fix the

problem if possible.

Thanks for the assistance!

Cheri

[Guest guest]

Cheri - try this group for help:

TruthAboutVaccines/

Sherry

> We have a border collie mix dog that is about a year and a half

old.

> We have had her since last November and she has been a great

family

> dog even with my darling until recently.

>

> The dog has had some what I would call some agression issues she

had

> not displayed before. She never snapped at (he is 3.5

years

> old) , growled or any thing like that until two weeks ago. She

has

> NOT bitten him but has displayed some jealousy as well when

playing

> with the family and is involved. She has also started

trying

> to eat 's food as well, which had not happend before.

>

> I wondered if there were any other dog lovers that had some

> suggestions on how we can change this because my concern is if

this

> continues we will have to find an alternate residence for our

dog.

> We dont need afraid of the dog and I dont want to isolate

> the dog from the family either.

>

> Some people have told me to get rid of her. But I am hoping there

> are alternatives. I would rather try to find a way to fix the

> problem if possible.

>

> Thanks for the assistance!

>

> Cheri

[Guest guest]

I agree that you should get rid of your dog. This situation with a young

child is dangerous for him. It wouldn’t take any time for your dog to turn

on your child and do serious damage before you could get to him. Also,

young children are not always gentle with dogs and do not have the skills to

interact with them. We had a 1 yr old dog that started attacking our older

dog. We were scared that she would try to attack the kids. We called our

humane society and they said that it is very hard and requires a lot of work

and time to try to change the behavior around and it will not work most of

the time. The person I talked to was a animal behaviorist. We took the dog

back to the humane society and they ended up having to put her to sleep.

Right now the most important thing is to protect your child. You cannot

always be there for him and obviously the dog is getting her way by being

able to take food away from your child. Your child cannot protect himself

and in the meantime, is getting reinforced in the behaviors by getting what

it wants.

It is very sad to have to deal with this with a loved pet, and I feel for

you. If it would happen to us again, I would not hesitate to get rid of the

dog like we did before.

M

[ ] OT but a dog info needed

We have a border collie mix dog that is about a year and a half old.

We have had her since last November and she has been a great family

dog even with my darling until recently.

The dog has had some what I would call some agression issues she had

not displayed before. She never snapped at (he is 3.5 years

old) , growled or any thing like that until two weeks ago. She has

NOT bitten him but has displayed some jealousy as well when playing

with the family and is involved. She has also started trying

to eat 's food as well, which had not happend before.

I wondered if there were any other dog lovers that had some

suggestions on how we can change this because my concern is if this

continues we will have to find an alternate residence for our dog.

We dont need afraid of the dog and I dont want to isolate

the dog from the family either.

Some people have told me to get rid of her. But I am hoping there

are alternatives. I would rather try to find a way to fix the

problem if possible.

Thanks for the assistance!

Cheri

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[Guest guest]

Have you done anything different? Different food? Different treats? Shots?

Maybe a different Flea/Tick Killer, collar or shampoo? I've heard really bad

things about certain types of products that affect the dogs neurologically

from behavior to siezures.

We just adopted a dog from the humane society and the guy there really gave

me a dose of info on what to use and not to use. If you think it's anything

like this, I'll tell you the brands he recommends for (and against).

We bought a 100 foot dog run (they had different sizes) so when my little

guy is in his mood, I just clip the dog on it and let him be outside for a

while until my little guy calms down, if it's possible, maybe you can do

that when it's time to eat..I know that could be hard with snackers, my boys

snack all day, and then there's weather to consider but for now, it's

working and he seems to have a good disposition, so far so good for us.

HTH,

Carol

[ ] Re: OT but a dog info needed

> Cheri - try this group for help:

>

> TruthAboutVaccines/

>

> Sherry

>

>> We have a border collie mix dog that is about a year and a half

> old.

>> We have had her since last November and she has been a great

> family

>> dog even with my darling until recently.

>>

>> The dog has had some what I would call some agression issues she

> had

>> not displayed before. She never snapped at (he is 3.5

> years

>> old) , growled or any thing like that until two weeks ago. She

> has

>> NOT bitten him but has displayed some jealousy as well when

> playing

>> with the family and is involved. She has also started

> trying

>> to eat 's food as well, which had not happend before.

>>

>> I wondered if there were any other dog lovers that had some

>> suggestions on how we can change this because my concern is if

> this

>> continues we will have to find an alternate residence for our

> dog.

>> We dont need afraid of the dog and I dont want to isolate

>> the dog from the family either.

>>

>> Some people have told me to get rid of her. But I am hoping there

>> are alternatives. I would rather try to find a way to fix the

>> problem if possible.

>>

>> Thanks for the assistance!

>>

>> Cheri

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You might take the dog to the vet and have them do some

blood work. Perhapse the dog has an illness you are not aware

of. We all feel nasty when we don't feel well. Dogs have the

ability to hide their pain very well.

Liz D.

[Guest guest]

Have you contact your local pet store to see about obedience school?

bebevincent <bebevincent@...> wrote:We have a border collie mix dog that

is about a year and a half old.

We have had her since last November and she has been a great family

dog even with my darling until recently.

The dog has had some what I would call some agression issues she had

not displayed before. She never snapped at (he is 3.5 years

old) , growled or any thing like that until two weeks ago. She has

NOT bitten him but has displayed some jealousy as well when playing

with the family and is involved. She has also started trying

to eat 's food as well, which had not happend before.

I wondered if there were any other dog lovers that had some

suggestions on how we can change this because my concern is if this

continues we will have to find an alternate residence for our dog.

We dont need afraid of the dog and I dont want to isolate

the dog from the family either.

Some people have told me to get rid of her. But I am hoping there

are alternatives. I would rather try to find a way to fix the

problem if possible.

Thanks for the assistance!

Cheri

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Liz...she is so active I thought it was more a mental health

thing...thanx for mentioning that.

Cheri

> You might take the dog to the vet and have them do some

> blood work. Perhapse the dog has an illness you are not aware

> of. We all feel nasty when we don't feel well. Dogs have the

> ability to hide their pain very well.

>

> Liz D.

[Guest guest]

Well some members just mentioned that the breed of the dog is

very active. I had an old cat that acted like a kitten. She had

a hormonal imbalance. I wouldn't expect this in a young dog but

is worth looking into. My cats adrenal glands were over producing

and as the years went on it left her exhausted and very thin.

Liz D.

> [Original Message]

> From: bebevincent <bebevincent@...>

> < >

> Date: 8/5/2005 7:04:48 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: OT but a dog info needed

>

> Thank you Liz...she is so active I thought it was more a mental health

> thing...thanx for mentioning that.

>

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

Even though it is a younger dog I would be suspect of arthritis. my dog was

fine with my kids but got really snippy when she started to have pain with her

arthritis. I give her supplements (glucosamine, msm...) and flax oil and she

is fine now. My dog will also beg and try to get food from the kids if she

thinks she can get away with it. She will not eat sometimes in hopes of getting

food from them. I have to be careful how much she gets from them. She may also

just be jealous and thinking she needs more attention. Dogs are smarter than we

give them credit for. The dog may also see the child as a brother and be trying

to stay dominant over him. Border collies are extremely smart. Obedience

training would likely be something he would love. Some dogs get into trouble

when they are bored. There is a ball a friend of mine would let her dog play

with. You put treats into it and twisted it around. The dog would have to push

the ball around a certain way to get a treat out of

it. Could occupy a dog for hours. I had one before and she excelled in

training classes. They wanted me to take her to the advanced class. I would

definitely work with the dog as long as you can. I would be mindful of them

together and make sure there is no opportunity for the child to get bit. Good

luck!

Primer <sprimer1@...> wrote:

Have you contact your local pet store to see about obedience school?

bebevincent <bebevincent@...> wrote:We have a border collie mix dog that

is about a year and a half old.

We have had her since last November and she has been a great family

dog even with my darling until recently.

The dog has had some what I would call some agression issues she had

not displayed before. She never snapped at (he is 3.5 years

old) , growled or any thing like that until two weeks ago. She has

NOT bitten him but has displayed some jealousy as well when playing

with the family and is involved. She has also started trying

to eat 's food as well, which had not happend before.

I wondered if there were any other dog lovers that had some

suggestions on how we can change this because my concern is if this

continues we will have to find an alternate residence for our dog.

We dont need afraid of the dog and I dont want to isolate

the dog from the family either.

Some people have told me to get rid of her. But I am hoping there

are alternatives. I would rather try to find a way to fix the

problem if possible.

Thanks for the assistance!

Cheri

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