Adjusting ALA DMSA combo

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Adjusting ALA DMSA combo

We have been chelating for over 20 rounds following the frequent

dosing schedule.

My son is now 7yo (44 pounds). We started chelating with 16mg DMSA

for about 5 rounds, then added in 10mg Ala slowly working up to 16.67

mg. What I have done was run 5 round intervals at the same dose, note

any change or regression and slowly increase dose after 5 Good

rounds. We are currently at round 21 with DMSA ½ Mg per pound and

Ala

16.67 mg. (almost at the ½ mg per pound)

I must say through the first 10-15 rounds every ON round was

GOOD….

HE WAS ON.

And the off rounds (rest periods) were going well also.

At this point it was easy to tell if we went too fast or not enough

because chelation was going well.

Then between round 10 -21 we had many new things to address with the

spitting and teeth grinding and an increase of scripting, came. I

have visited much of these issues with Dana (THANK YOU DANA).

Revamped and ran trails with entire supplement regimen. . Pretty much

have addressed all supplement needs and made sure to put a proper

yeast protocol in place. In the process probably Drove Dana crazy

trying to figure out if there is an underlying yeast issue that has

not been isolated. 3 years ago after dealing with major yeast issues

we have learned to address the yeast properly. Can pretty much

identify any regressions /behavior and rule out yeast as the culprit.

Lately with the increased scripting, lack of compliance and more

emotional episodes I must attribute this to our current chelation

protocol. ( However still wont totally rule out a yeast as it is

tricky)

Now my questions are referring and regarding our current behavior

changes.

Could this is just part of the chelation process that has been

staled.?

I Know according to Andy's book and from testimonies there is to

be

expected a period of progression followed by regression, seeming to

have little or no gains.

I would like to know anyone who is using Andy's protocol

chelating

with DMSA/ALA combo had found a correct dose ratio that worked better

for their child and how they went about to discover this?

Has anyone that has been chelating for a while, possibly working up

to a maintenance dose discovered they must stay with a correct dose

ratio?

Example: tried to increase it had problem and needed to stay with a

particular fixed amount?

Is it possible that a child may respond and chelate better (more

effective) with finding that right combination?

I know I am asking Q's that do not have constants that we expect,

especially with the chelation process, but would appreciate to hear

some comments regarding ALA/DMSA doses ratios.

Thank you all very much for sharing your experience

Kenny V

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> Adjusting ALA DMSA combo

>

Has anyone that has been chelating for a while, possibly working up

> to a maintenance dose discovered they must stay with a correct dose

> ratio?

I don't think it's the ratio so much as the dosage. Higher dosages

increase side effects, which is what you're seeing -- go back down to

the dosage where you weren't seeing them, and stay there indefinitely.

Until you see no improvements after several rounds.

I understand your impatience and have had to learn this the hard way

for me and my son. Also remember that dosage is not directly

proportional to Hg chelated -- iow, if you double the dose you aren't

chelating twice as much Hg.

Nell

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Yes, probably would cut the dose of dmsa/ala. Ours (42lbs) 4.10 years old, only

took 10 mgs dmsa/10 mgs ala. Was plenty. I have heard others say if they ramped

up the dose too fast, they had problems.

Trick is to give enough to get the job done, but not enough to cause the side

effects. Any new side effect that lasted after the round would get me to

thinking that the dose was too high. My daughter gets impatient also, we both

want this done. We would like to go back to living a normal life (getting

worried as starting to forget what that is), but this is a process, not a race.

Good luck,

[ ] Adjusting ALA DMSA combo

Adjusting ALA DMSA combo

We have been chelating for over 20 rounds following the frequent

dosing schedule.

My son is now 7yo (44 pounds). We started chelating with 16mg DMSA

for about 5 rounds, then added in 10mg Ala slowly working up to 16.67

mg. What I have done was run 5 round intervals at the same dose, note

any change or regression and slowly increase dose after 5 Good

rounds. We are currently at round 21 with DMSA ½ Mg per pound and

Ala

16.67 mg. (almost at the ½ mg per pound)

I must say through the first 10-15 rounds every ON round was

GOOD..

HE WAS ON.

And the off rounds (rest periods) were going well also.

At this point it was easy to tell if we went too fast or not enough

because chelation was going well.

Then between round 10 -21 we had many new things to address with the

spitting and teeth grinding and an increase of scripting, came. I

have visited much of these issues with Dana (THANK YOU DANA).

Revamped and ran trails with entire supplement regimen. . Pretty much

have addressed all supplement needs and made sure to put a proper

yeast protocol in place. In the process probably Drove Dana crazy

trying to figure out if there is an underlying yeast issue that has

not been isolated. 3 years ago after dealing with major yeast issues

we have learned to address the yeast properly. Can pretty much

identify any regressions /behavior and rule out yeast as the culprit.

Lately with the increased scripting, lack of compliance and more

emotional episodes I must attribute this to our current chelation

protocol. ( However still wont totally rule out a yeast as it is

tricky)

Now my questions are referring and regarding our current behavior

changes.

Could this is just part of the chelation process that has been

staled.?

I Know according to Andy's book and from testimonies there is to

be

expected a period of progression followed by regression, seeming to

have little or no gains.

I would like to know anyone who is using Andy's protocol

chelating

with DMSA/ALA combo had found a correct dose ratio that worked better

for their child and how they went about to discover this?

Has anyone that has been chelating for a while, possibly working up

to a maintenance dose discovered they must stay with a correct dose

ratio?

Example: tried to increase it had problem and needed to stay with a

particular fixed amount?

Is it possible that a child may respond and chelate better (more

effective) with finding that right combination?

I know I am asking Q's that do not have constants that we expect,

especially with the chelation process, but would appreciate to hear

some comments regarding ALA/DMSA doses ratios.

Thank you all very much for sharing your experience

Kenny V

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Yes I have done that, always cut back if any regression.

To note: we were using the same amount of DMSA for over 15 rounds.

And at first site of regression (round #7), I had cut the ala from

12mg to 6 mg. Did five more rounds increased ALA to 10mg.

Five more rounds increased to 12mg and so on ….

This was all no problem, (Good rounds) like I had said the ON was ON

and the off (rest period) was all doing well too.

We just happen to see not much of any gains and this was all with

the same dose of DMSA.

It was at a flat period round 15-21 when he was no longer was ON

within the round nor the rest period to follow.

This is what got me thinking of the following Q's

>Lack of compliance and more

emotional episodes I must attribute this to our current chelation

protocol. (However still wont totally rule out a yeast as it is

tricky)

>Now my questions are referring and regarding our current behavior

changes.

Could this is just part of the chelation process that has been

staled?

I Know according to Andy's book and from testimonies there is to

be expected a period of progression followed by regression, seeming

to have little or no gains.

I would like to know anyone who is using Andy's protocol

chelating with DMSA/ALA combo had found a correct dose ratio that

worked better for their child and how they went about to discover

this?

Has anyone that has been chelating for a while, possibly working up

to a maintenance dose discovered they must stay with a correct dose

ratio?

Example: tried to increase it had problem and needed to stay with a

particular fixed amount?

Is it possible that a child may respond and chelate better (more

effective) with finding that right combination?

I know I am asking Q's that do not have constants that we expect,

especially with the chelation process.

***But would appreciate***

to hear some of your comments on what you have done in finding

your ALA/DMSA doses ratios.

Thank you all very much for sharing your experience

Kenny V