Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 I hope that people will not just reply to this email privately, because I have these same questions. Please, please, post to the list. Thanks Kathy > Hello, I just had my son tested for IgG allergies and he showed up +1 > posititve for about 25 foods including rice and potatoes! Woe is me. does > this mean I should totally restrict those foods? Will giving enzymes with > these foods mean they are OK to give? He also showed up +3 for eggs and +2 > for corn. Will enzymes nullify these reactions or should I totally remove > the eggs and corn from the diet. As far as I can see there is no immediate > reaction to these foods so I can't tell what would be working or not and I am > curious to see what changes if I removed all of them. But how can we exist > without eggs, chicken, rice, corn, and bananas... they are all he eats > literally. We are GFCF. Any comments sent to private email would be greatly > appreciated since I am so behind in reading all the digested posts.... Thank > you Ashi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 is the problem a leaky gut and large food particles getting into the gut and causing an immune reaction? is it one way in the sense of once having an allergy develop the body never unlearns? yeast and leaky gut seem to go together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2002 Report Share Posted December 6, 2002 > Hello, I just had my son tested for IgG allergies and he showed up +1 > posititve for about 25 foods including rice and potatoes! I never had my son officially tested, but thru rotation and trial/error, I discovered he tolerated basically no foods. So I can relate. >> Woe is me. does > this mean I should totally restrict those foods? No >> Will giving enzymes with > these foods mean they are OK to give? Not necessarily. He may still have problems with certain foods, even with enzymes. But you will have an idea of which foods may remain problems. >> He also showed up +3 for eggs and +2 > for corn. Will enzymes nullify these reactions or should I totally remove > the eggs and corn from the diet. With enzymes, my kids still don't tolerate eggs. They tolerate small amounts of corn, but corn will make #2 hyper. This is reducing with chelation. >> As far as I can see there is no immediate > reaction to these foods so I can't tell what would be working or not and I am > curious to see what changes if I removed all of them. The general recommendation is to remove the +2 and higher, and rotate the +1. >> But how can we exist > without eggs, chicken, rice, corn, and bananas... they are all he eats > literally. We are GFCF. Any comments sent to private email would be greatly > appreciated since I am so behind in reading all the digested posts.... I will send this to the list and to your mail. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 mitochondrial things can benefit from msm allergies i feel stem from a leaky gut dunno what the answer is for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 >>>came back showing almost all foods with a 1-3 IgG.(and several IgE) Our doctor was shocked. When I see these really high levels of food intolerances, I always think: leaky gut and poor digestion. Because this indicates that pretty much anything you eat is not be properly digested and causing a 'reaction'. So by taking enzymes and other doing other gut healing measures, you can help improve digestion across the board for all foods, improve nutrient absorption and deal with the whole mess at one time. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 My son had a number of IgG intolerances as well. We were advised to take them out of his diet for a couple of months and then reintroduce one at a time to look for reaction. I have done that (even with the +3's) and seen no reaction. I now give them in a rotation so that I would hopefully be able to recognize any problem foods. I keep a food journal as well. I know I have heard not to worry about 1's or very lows but I have also heard that they need to be taken out. I guess it's all a matter of who you talk to. We also had food intolerance testing done by two different labs and there were some similarities, but also some different results (I don't know if it had something to do with the fact that we changed his diet after the first testing). FWIW (probably not much!) Jen From: " klb41_2000 " <klb41_2000@...> < > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: Re: IgG testing > I hope that people will not just reply to this email privately, > because I have these same questions. Please, please, post to the > list. Thanks > Kathy > > > Hello, I just had my son tested for IgG allergies and he showed up > +1 > > posititve for about 25 foods including rice and potatoes! Woe is > me. does > > this mean I should totally restrict those foods? Will giving > enzymes with > > these foods mean they are OK to give? He also showed up +3 for > eggs and +2 > > for corn. Will enzymes nullify these reactions or should I totally > remove > > the eggs and corn from the diet. As far as I can see there is no > immediate > > reaction to these foods so I can't tell what would be working or > not and I am > > curious to see what changes if I removed all of them. But how can > we exist > > without eggs, chicken, rice, corn, and bananas... they are all he > eats > > literally. We are GFCF. Any comments sent to private email would > be greatly > > appreciated since I am so behind in reading all the digested > posts.... Thank > > you Ashi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 Debby, Can you tell us your reaction (if any) or how you feel when you have foods that you are IgG intolerant to? Jen IgG Testing > I am not sure who did your IgG testing. Did the lab send you a copy of the > food groups and how to Rotate Foods? > I had IgG and IgE using the by Great Smokies Diagnositic Lab, for our > entire family, after our 8 year olds came back showing almost all foods with > a 1-3 IgG.(and several IgE) Our doctor was shocked. After testing the other > four members of the family and many discussions with our doctor and the staff > at Great Smokies this is what my understanding is. > If you have the or a blood allergy test done it is measuring the > antibodies in your blood. IgG are delayed allergic reactions. IgE are > immediate reaction allergies. Your child has antibodies for many foods in his > blood. > My three sons and I all had at least 40 - 80 , 1-3 IgG allergies. > My husband had only two. > Great Smokies indicated that following a Rotation Diet is the best answer for > individuals who develop antibodies to many foods. If you have many 2 or 3 > level reactions in the same group (i.e., dairy) then you may want to avoid > the group. We all had at least 4 foods with level 3+ reactions in the bean > family. We have discontinued using beans and soy products because we react > strongly to those. > The Rotation Diet works by alternating what groups of foods you eat. You > follow either a 4 or 7 day Rotation. > 1's are not showing a high level of allergen. I was shocked to find that I > had many 3's for foods I have eaten all my life. > Great Smokies gives you a break down of all the food groups and how to rotate > them. It isn't that difficult. If you can't find this let me know and I can > type it on the website. > IgE food allergies are more serious and they recommended avoiding these foods. > I set up a calendar on my fridge so that Monday we have certain meat, plant > and grain group and Tuesday we have different groups. > You can go to Great Smokies Website www.gsdl.com or do a goggle search on the > Rotation Diet and food allergies. > We have all had skin tests done as well. They test IgE allergies but not IgG. > > The other information that Great Smokies told us is that children inherit > more health information from our mothers because they give us Mitochondrial > DNA that our fathers do not. > You might be surprised if you were tested to see that you have many of the > same allergies. When we compared our three sons, my husbands and mine, all > the boys followed my pattern. > Let me know if I can send you any more information. > Debby > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 I have finally found a decent doctor in SA (an hour and a half away) Today I ordered tests including the one mentioned above. What does it actually tell us? Regards Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 >>> I have finally found a decent doctor in SA (an hour and a half away) Today I ordered tests including the one mentioned above. What does it actually tell us? The IgG test measures the amount of antibodies in your system to certain substances. Now...what does that mean? When you consume something your body doesn't like, the immune system creates something called 'antibiodies' which are specific to the substance the body wants to get rid of. Like a crook entering a town and the police station sends out a policeman to handcuff the crook and bring him in so the crook can't cause trouble. So the test measures how may 'policemen' are out patrolling the streets looking for certain bad guys. As I understand it, the IgG test can roughly measure something your body doesn't like, but it is not 100% accurate. Nor does it tell WHY your body is reacting negatively. So you may get a general idea of which foods or chemcals your body reacts badly to, but it is not a specific, concrete test. Your test may register low to something but the person feels better if they avoid it...and vice versa to0. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 It won't detect any intolerances, only true allergies. Sorry! Steph --- In , Hagen <hiddenwillows@...> wrote: > > Does anyone have any information on IgG testing? Is this an accurate test for food allergies and sensitivities? If so, are there any recommendations for labs that do this? > > Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hi , As I understand it, IgA tests for allergies and IgG tests for intolerances. I've done IgG testing and found intolerances to almonds and eggs. Eliminating these made me feel much better! However, I've heard that other people have had mixed results and that the tests aren't always accurate (a lot of false positives). But, for me, it really helped. I used York Labs (now called Optimum Health Resource Labs). Their service was bad and the results took forever (3 months +). But, again, even with the bad service, the test helped me and I would do it again. --- skershaw_sanjose <skershaw_sanjose@...> wrote: > It won't detect any intolerances, only true > allergies. > Sorry! > > Steph > > > > > Does anyone have any information on IgG > testing? Is this an > accurate test for food allergies and sensitivities? > If so, are there > any recommendations for labs that do this? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 IgA, IgE, and IgG are all Immunoglobulins. IgA antibodies are found mostly in mucous - saliva, tears, intestinal mucous etc. These are the super reactive type antibodies - the first defenders against all the nasties. They come and go quickly. Some people make virtually no IgA antibodies to ANYTHING. Ironically they are very likely to have a real problem with gluten (celiac) but the least likely to have IGA antibodies to it.IgE antibodies are the classic allergy ones. They activate the histamine system.IgG antibodies are the primary ones found in blood and tissue. They stick around longer than IgA antibodies but will be mostly gone in a couple of months if you don't eat the specific food, have contact with specific virus etc . These tend to more associated with food sensitivity, ezcema etc. You can test to see if you have any of these classes of antibodies to virtually any type of food. Your doctor can order a panel of blood tests for IgE antibodies and places like York are a good place for IgG. HOWEVER, tests for IgE (allergy) and IgG (sensitivity) are only the starting place. These tests are not very reliable for many reasons.- The immune system is complicated.- Each person's immune system works a little differently.- The various interactions of different parts of the immune system are poorly understood. - The significance or lack thereof of food sensitivities (including gluten) has been only tangentially addressed by the research community.- Hormones definitely impact responses and simply having exercised in the morning can make you sensitive in the afternoon. Both positive and negative responses need to be balanced against what you observe over time. On 12/20/06, Spitzer <sspitzer5@...> wrote: Hi ,As I understand it, IgA tests for allergies and IgGtests for intolerances.I've done IgG testing and found intolerances toalmonds and eggs. Eliminating these made me feel muchbetter! However, I've heard that other people have had mixed results and that the tests aren't alwaysaccurate (a lot of false positives). But, for me, itreally helped.I used York Labs (now called Optimum Health ResourceLabs). Their service was bad and the results took forever (3 months +). But, again, even with the badservice, the test helped me and I would do it again.--- skershaw_sanjose <skershaw_sanjose@... >wrote:> It won't detect any intolerances, only true> allergies.> Sorry!>> Steph> > >> > Does anyone have any information on IgG> testing? Is this an> accurate test for food allergies and sensitivities? > If so, are there> any recommendations for labs that do this?> >> > Thanks!> >> > > >>>>__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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