Re: Very dark urine during chelation days

[Guest guest]

> Is anyone had ever this problem? It's extremely dark, first movement

> I thought it's blood.

Dark yellow, or dark red?

Dark yellow is typically caused by excess B vitamins, or dehydration.

Pink or red can be caused by B12 shots.

>>I see blood splashes in his urine.

Might be a UTI. Try giving cranberry juice, see if that helps.

Or you can have his doctor test it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

More nearer red

> Pink or red can be caused by B12 shots.

Yes, we did that shot yesterday. But what to do with blood splashes?

> >>I see blood splashes in his urine.

> Might be a UTI. Try giving cranberry juice, see if that helps.

I gave child minerals and his urine now normal again.

I don't understand anything now

Elena

[Guest guest]

One perspective you can take is that maybe it really is blood. As a

38 year old male, I've been plagued by kidney stones since I was

around twelve years old. Over the years, I have learned that one of

the first signs that I'm heading for trouble is when my urine takes on

a reddish-brown rust colored tint to it (the exact color is never the

same, BTW).

I've finally figured out through lots and lots of reading that my

kidney stones are most likely a result of a severe magnesium

deficiency, and that my magnesium deficiency is due to a high burden

of mercury that I've been carrying around since I was a child.

Now that I've been chelating since January, 2004 (and taking huge

doses of magnesium), I can definitely say that my stones are getting

better, with far fewer occurrences of the reddish urine.

When I have had instances of reddish urine lately, combined with pain

in the kidneys, by taking even more magnesium (via Epsom salt baths

and topical magnesium chloride), these episodes of gone away much

quicker than ever before.

My point in all this is that maybe your child has a magnesium

deficiency, which can actually be exacerbated by some minerals, most

notably calcium!

I am over-simplifying things, but if you do not have enough magnesium

in your body to dissolve excess calcium, you often will end up with

calcium stones.

There is a neat little experiment you can do that shows you how

powerful magnesium is for dissolving calcium..., but why bother? I

would consider cutting down on calcium (for the time being) and

increasing magnesium intake.

My method of taking magnesium is to use powdered magnesium citrate

dissolved in my water bottle (with water of course!), and drink this

through the day, refilling as needed.

[Guest guest]

mb12 shots will cause red urine if it is given incorrectly in the

muscle not the fat. the m12 shots are to be given subcutaneously at a

ten to thirty degree angle in the fat of the butt. drneubrander.com-

the mb12 guru explains it well in his website.has a nice analogy of a

lollypop and an elephants butt, sounds crude but that one i remember

well. also, i gave the shots wrong many times before i realized i was

giving IM not SubQ and saw red urine once. now if this is not from b12

it could be urine infection or bladder irritation.if you suspect it is

an infection and you want to check it, you get a pediatric urine

collection bag from your ped md. stick it on and collect urine, then

pour it into a sterile urine cup from the doctors office and stick it

in the fridge until you can drop it at the md office . they send it

for a urinalysis and c & S and in 1 to 3 days you know if it is urine

infection...teresa c - In , " ematsneva "

<ematsneva@r...> wrote:

> Is anyone had ever this problem? It's extremely dark, first movement

> I thought it's blood. After a while I realize it's just very dark

> color. But my major concern is: I see blood splashes in his urine.

> Off course I stopped chelation and gave child minerals. Am I right?

> We using DMSA/DMPS, ALA and DetoxMax.

>

> Elena

[Guest guest]

minerals help alkaline the body. Perhaps the chelation supplements

made his system too acidic and caused irritation.

Liz D.

> [Original Message]

> From: ematsneva <ematsneva@...>

> < >

> Date: 8/1/2005 7:46:39 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Very dark urine during chelation days

>> I gave child minerals and his urine now normal again.

> I don't understand anything now

>

> Elena

>

>

[Guest guest]

> More nearer red

>

> > Pink or red can be caused by B12 shots.

>

> Yes, we did that shot yesterday. But what to do with blood splashes?

Was it worse on the day immediately following the shot? You might be

missing the fat.

> > >>I see blood splashes in his urine.

> > Might be a UTI. Try giving cranberry juice, see if that helps.

>

> I gave child minerals and his urine now normal again.

When this first happened, did the urine remain pink/red UNTIL you gave

minerals? Just trying to figure out if the urine would have gone back

to normal anyway, even without the minerals.

Did the minerals include calcium?

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I am over-simplifying things, but if you do not have enough magnesium

> in your body to dissolve excess calcium, you often will end up with

> calcium stones.

I have had kidney stones also. Nasty things!

When I gave IP6 to my son for iron and calcium toxicity, I decided to

try some myself to help dissolve my stones. The label says take 2

capsules 2x per day for an adult. I started with ONE capsule and

within an hour I felt the beginnings of a stone in both kidneys. I

started olive leaf extract [anti-bacterial, because the last kidney

stone episode I had, landed me in the hospital with a systemic

infection]. Then I went down to 1/4 capsule IP6 4x per day for

several weeks. This worked GREAT!!!!

So if the magnesium is not helping you as much as you would like, you

can consider IP6. I use Enzymatic Therapy Cell Forte, from my local

health food store.

Dana