Re: Digest Number 498

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Hi everyone,

My name is Rhyanna and I have been following the list for a couple of months

now and thought it time to say hello. I have learned a lot from reading

your posts.

I have tried a couple of the products you have all mentioned and had good

results although I continued to search. In my search for a product I came

across a site that has really good herbal items that seem to work really

well for me. I am at the moment using their Bowel Support capsules and on

the 27th will be starting another round of their anti-parasite which worked

beautifully last time I used it.

http://www.rain-tree.com/store/store.html

This time I called and talked to a representative when I put in my order and

the nice woman I talked with told me to start the anti-parasite formula on

the first day of the new moon as the parasites are on a cyclicial life cycle

and that it has a better effect to do it this way. I have started the Bowel

Support already to get things cleaned out and ready for the 27th when I will

start the anti-parasite capsules.

What I really like about the site is that you can research all the different

herbs and their uses and they have an extensive list of the uses of all

their herbs. If anyone else has used these I would like to know how they

worked for them as they worked quite well the last time for me. Their

prices are quite reasonable and I can buy them in any quanity I choose and

the delivery is phenemonal, I received my purchase in 2 days.

I suffer from painful joints and aches which disappear when I do a cleanse

and use the anti-parasite items. In reference to the person who asked some

time ago if one can have the parasites in the bladder and pass them I have

done so each time I have done a cleanse so I assume it is possible.

I will attempt not to be so shy and let you all know how this works for me

this time.

Rhyanna

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Sara, just read about your car accident, glad you're okay! Wow. I'm sure your kids have gotten lots of extra kisses. Hope you're healing well and you're not too uncomfortable.

love debbi mom to Logan (6) Eli (DS) and Milo (4)

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Metabolism Diet</A>

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Karma,

This web page ( http://www.alldietsexposed.com/hiltonhead.htm )really

gives a good description of the diet. I do believe it can be modified,

as the author of the page suggests. I was planning on doing the diet

while doing aerobic breathing once or twice a day. He suggests

exercising twice a day, but since breathing burns about twice as much

calories, I figured once a day would probably work. It is a drastic

reduction in calories, but since you eat so often, it may not seem like

it. But, this woman would probably benefit from any structured eating

regimen, whether she followed the book to the letter or not. I think

most of the success comes from the particular combination of foods that

he tells you to eat.

Anyway, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about healthy eating habits.

I'm sure, if you like his ideas, you could modify the plan to suit this

woman's particular need.

BTW, sorry it took so long for me to get back. Haven't been feeling to

great (morning sickness all day long!) and looking at a computer screen

usually makes it worse!

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> Hilton Head

> Metabolism Diet</A>

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Thank You Beth,

I appreciate your response. I forgot, how far along are you? the

only thing that settled my morning sickness down was apple cidar

vinegar. I was really low on my B vitamins and sipping on apple

cidar vinegar fixed me right up. I would just put about a tablespoon

of it in a glass of water and sip on it. Nothing else even touched

it. Best wishes,

~Karma

> Karma,

>

> This web page ( http://www.alldietsexposed.com/hiltonhead.htm )

really

> gives a good description of the diet. I do believe it can be

modified,

> as the author of the page suggests. I was planning on doing the

diet

> while doing aerobic breathing once or twice a day. He suggests

> exercising twice a day, but since breathing burns about twice as

much

> calories, I figured once a day would probably work. It is a drastic

> reduction in calories, but since you eat so often, it may not seem

like

> it. But, this woman would probably benefit from any structured

eating

> regimen, whether she followed the book to the letter or not. I

think

> most of the success comes from the particular combination of foods

that

> he tells you to eat.

>

> Anyway, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about healthy eating

habits.

> I'm sure, if you like his ideas, you could modify the plan to suit

this

> woman's particular need.

>

> BTW, sorry it took so long for me to get back. Haven't been

feeling to

> great (morning sickness all day long!) and looking at a computer

screen

> usually makes it worse!

>

> On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:40:30 EST scholar7thlevel@a... writes:

> > <A HREF= " http://www.alldietsexposed.com/hiltonhead.htm " >The New

> > Hilton Head

> > Metabolism Diet</A>

>

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Hey Karma

As of Sunday, I'll be 11 weeks. My morning sickness isn't really bad, I

mean, I know people who have had it thousands of times worse than I do.

It's just enough to keep me on the couch most of the morning. Believe it

or not, the things that make me feel better are mostly fruit (juicy ones

like oranges) or tortilla chips and salsa. I know it sounds insane, but

that's what helps my stomach. I've never heard of the apple cider

vinegar thing, maybe I'll try that if it gets worse.

Thanks

Beth B

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:15:27 -0000 " karma@... "

<karma@...> writes:

> Thank You Beth,

> I appreciate your response. I forgot, how far along are you? the

> only thing that settled my morning sickness down was apple cidar

> vinegar. I was really low on my B vitamins and sipping on apple

> cidar vinegar fixed me right up. I would just put about a

> tablespoon

> of it in a glass of water and sip on it. Nothing else even touched

> it. Best wishes,

> ~Karma

>

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This is from Francine in AL. I have been receiving all sorts of strange E

Mails and somehow I believe it is a computer virus. If anyone receives

anything from me " asking for advice " with a file to open. I did NOT send it.

Please do NOT open it.

My apologies,

Francine in AL

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I am so sorry to hear about your experience. The doctor that put

you through that should be hung by his.____.

(Fill iln the blank however you wish.)

PSYCHOLOGICAL??? I have been treated like that once before by health

care people for pain that I was having. I still recoil with angst when

I remember what that made me feel like. I'm SO SORRY. I hope your

doctor will set everyone straight when he returns. If he is the ONLY

ONE who knows anything about A, then he should brief some other doctors

about your condition so that they could also treat you, or know how to

find out how to treat you, should he ever be absent again when you need

help. What a sad story. Once again, I " m sorry it happened to you.

Hugs to you, and hope you feel better soon.

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(I'm not sure I am doing this right--this is my first email group, I'm not sure how the connections all work.) Anyway, I am a lurker of about 4 months standing and I think a buddy system might help me to do CR. I'm interested in trying. So I'll just send this out and see what happens.

Pat

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I would like to try this too - at least talk about what it would

involve. I have a light load this summer but back to the school in the

fall. I think this is a great idea and would like to do it, but do not

want to leave a partner or a group in a lurch if things start to get

past me.

Best,

Kayce

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> (I'm not sure I am doing this right--this is my first email group,

> I'm not sure how the connections all work.) Anyway, I am a lurker of

> about 4 months standing and I think a buddy system might help me to do

> CR. I'm interested in trying. So I'll just send this out and see what

> happens.

> Pat

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Dear ;

What is the russian stuff that you mention for cleansing toxins and

metals and where do you get it?

Thanks

qxci-english wrote:

neurological and intestinal problems

dear group,

me again. no sign of life for months, and i found out..... i simply can´t live without this wonderful group, haha....

i have another patient, who seems very, very difficult.

her problems:

vertigo, vision disturbances mainly starting in the afternoon

exhaustion

diarrhea, sometimes she has to go to the toilet maybe 30 times a day and always releases masses of stool.

she had worms big time. we got rid of them.

but still in almost every stool, there are pink little pieces and white little pieces. she once brought me a sample, and i was unable to say, what this is.

last week-end she ate some sweet bakery stuff (made with white wheat and white sugar). a few hours later, she broke down with the heaviest symptoms....

she knows, that it´s better to avoid that kind of food, but was craving and was on the road....

when i checked her for the first time,there was a clear indication for ms. all the symptoms seem to show in the same direction.

i checked shigella on her, and got an awfully high allergy reaction.

we checked borrelia, and didn´t get a clear answer.

she is very toxic. her mother died of colon cancer. her brother died of leukemia. her mother worked in a chemical laboratory, while she was still pregnant.

she is taking nutrition, that we found were deficient.

we have been trying hard to get her better, but nothing seems to work.

i got something, that is being produced in russia for detoxification of heavy metals, insectizides and radiation (gets rid of at least 75% of radioactive nukleids and radiation). we are presently testing this. there´s a professor in kiev, who has invented something like a "blood wash" with this adsorbent, and it seems, that people come out from the treament with rosey cheeks and feeling much better. okay, i gave her a sample of this adsorbent to test, and she instantly reacted with heavy diarrhea. the adsorbent is very strong, but supposedly does not affect liver and kidneys. hm. i am taking it, and it feels like it is pulling on my muscles (that´s where i still, after years of detox, have depositions of mercury). so.

i would say, there is a tendency to develop a multiple sclerosis. there are toxins, there shigella, there are heavy metals, there are solvents....

has anybody ever seen something similar or has an advice for me???

i don´t know, how to continue....

many thanks

marlene

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dear peter,

sorry for the late answer....

i´m back on track now (is that how you say it in english??)

anyway. the stuff i mentioned is miracuouls.

we don´t have it yet, but are in contact with the institute and the professor, who developped it.

we will fly to kiev/russia in two weeks and find out more about it.

it is very, very powerful, that i can already say. it is more powerful, than anything i have tried so far in detoxification.

it even works well for acute intoxications.

in russia in that institue, it is even being used for "dialysis" of the blood.

i know of a friend, who wnated to run a test. he took metamphetamins, waited until the effect was full on, and then he took one table spoon of the "sorbent". within one half hour, the drug was completely neutralised. wow!!! so, this will also work as an emrgency kit for party kids.

when detoxifying heavy metals, you take it three times a day for two weeks. then all metals should be gone. it can be used even when kidneys nad liver are heavily damaged. the peron, who introduced me to it, had prostate cancer with 3 metastases in the liver. then he remembered the sorbent. after taking it for three weeks, he went to get his liver checked, and one of the metastatses was already gone, the liver was in mucn better shape and the other two had stopped growing.

all this is at the very start at the moment, but i promise, that, s soon as i have more info and have found a way to make this available in the usa, i will keep you informed.

wish me luck for my trip to russia.

marlene

neurological and intestinal problems

dear group,

me again. no sign of life for months, and i found out..... i simply can´t live without this wonderful group, haha....

i have another patient, who seems very, very difficult.

her problems:

vertigo, vision disturbances mainly starting in the afternoon

exhaustion

diarrhea, sometimes she has to go to the toilet maybe 30 times a day and always releases masses of stool.

she had worms big time. we got rid of them.

but still in almost every stool, there are pink little pieces and white little pieces. she once brought me a sample, and i was unable to say, what this is.

last week-end she ate some sweet bakery stuff (made with white wheat and white sugar). a few hours later, she broke down with the heaviest symptoms....

she knows, that it´s better to avoid that kind of food, but was craving and was on the road....

when i checked her for the first time,there was a clear indication for ms. all the symptoms seem to show in the same direction.

i checked shigella on her, and got an awfully high allergy reaction.

we checked borrelia, and didn´t get a clear answer.

she is very toxic. her mother died of colon cancer. her brother died of leukemia. her mother worked in a chemical laboratory, while she was still pregnant.

she is taking nutrition, that we found were deficient.

we have been trying hard to get her better, but nothing seems to work.

i got something, that is being produced in russia for detoxification of heavy metals, insectizides and radiation (gets rid of at least 75% of radioactive nukleids and radiation). we are presently testing this. there´s a professor in kiev, who has invented something like a "blood wash" with this adsorbent, and it seems, that people come out from the treament with rosey cheeks and feeling much better. okay, i gave her a sample of this adsorbent to test, and she instantly reacted with heavy diarrhea. the adsorbent is very strong, but supposedly does not affect liver and kidneys. hm. i am taking it, and it feels like it is pulling on my muscles (that´s where i still, after years of detox, have depositions of mercury). so.

i would say, there is a tendency to develop a multiple sclerosis. there are toxins, there shigella, there are heavy metals, there are solvents....

has anybody ever seen something similar or has an advice for me???

i don´t know, how to continue....

many thanks

marlene

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Good luck with your trip to Russia from us all. Please keep us informed.

With love and light - Celia (U.K.)

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Hi ,

sounds very interesting, I would like to hear more about it and your trip, keep us informed and if possible bring some back I am interested to test too.

Monika

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Von: Kunold

An: qxci-english

Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 12:52

Betreff: Re: Digest Number 498

dear peter,

sorry for the late answer....

i´m back on track now (is that how you say it in english??)

anyway. the stuff i mentioned is miracuouls.

we don´t have it yet, but are in contact with the institute and the professor, who developped it.

we will fly to kiev/russia in two weeks and find out more about it.

it is very, very powerful, that i can already say. it is more powerful, than anything i have tried so far in detoxification.

it even works well for acute intoxications.

in russia in that institue, it is even being used for "dialysis" of the blood.

i know of a friend, who wnated to run a test. he took metamphetamins, waited until the effect was full on, and then he took one table spoon of the "sorbent". within one half hour, the drug was completely neutralised. wow!!! so, this will also work as an emrgency kit for party kids.

when detoxifying heavy metals, you take it three times a day for two weeks. then all metals should be gone. it can be used even when kidneys nad liver are heavily damaged. the peron, who introduced me to it, had prostate cancer with 3 metastases in the liver. then he remembered the sorbent. after taking it for three weeks, he went to get his liver checked, and one of the metastatses was already gone, the liver was in mucn better shape and the other two had stopped growing.

all this is at the very start at the moment, but i promise, that, s soon as i have more info and have found a way to make this available in the usa, i will keep you informed.

wish me luck for my trip to russia.

marlene

neurological and intestinal problems

dear group,

me again. no sign of life for months, and i found out..... i simply can´t live without this wonderful group, haha....

i have another patient, who seems very, very difficult.

her problems:

vertigo, vision disturbances mainly starting in the afternoon

exhaustion

diarrhea, sometimes she has to go to the toilet maybe 30 times a day and always releases masses of stool.

she had worms big time. we got rid of them.

but still in almost every stool, there are pink little pieces and white little pieces. she once brought me a sample, and i was unable to say, what this is.

last week-end she ate some sweet bakery stuff (made with white wheat and white sugar). a few hours later, she broke down with the heaviest symptoms....

she knows, that it´s better to avoid that kind of food, but was craving and was on the road....

when i checked her for the first time,there was a clear indication for ms. all the symptoms seem to show in the same direction.

i checked shigella on her, and got an awfully high allergy reaction.

we checked borrelia, and didn´t get a clear answer.

she is very toxic. her mother died of colon cancer. her brother died of leukemia. her mother worked in a chemical laboratory, while she was still pregnant.

she is taking nutrition, that we found were deficient.

we have been trying hard to get her better, but nothing seems to work.

i got something, that is being produced in russia for detoxification of heavy metals, insectizides and radiation (gets rid of at least 75% of radioactive nukleids and radiation). we are presently testing this. there´s a professor in kiev, who has invented something like a "blood wash" with this adsorbent, and it seems, that people come out from the treament with rosey cheeks and feeling much better. okay, i gave her a sample of this adsorbent to test, and she instantly reacted with heavy diarrhea. the adsorbent is very strong, but supposedly does not affect liver and kidneys. hm. i am taking it, and it feels like it is pulling on my muscles (that´s where i still, after years of detox, have depositions of mercury). so.

i would say, there is a tendency to develop a multiple sclerosis. there are toxins, there shigella, there are heavy metals, there are solvents....

has anybody ever seen something similar or has an advice for me???

i don´t know, how to continue....

many thanks

marlene

.............................................

............................................

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, we are all entitled to our "pity-parties" occasionally, just don't party too long!! I think it's this crummy weather. Kiki

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Dierdre, you might try an amino acid called L-Phenylalanine or DL-Phenylalanine. Dr. Bihari recommends it for leg stiffness. I've been taking it for only a week now and I think it's working. Your case sounds somewhat similar to mine, though I don't have any eye problems. I also work full-time, etc. I was only diagnosed in December and have been on LDN only ten weeks, but I can tell you that my bladder problem is definitely better. I still have occasional bad days, but I have more and more good ones. According to Dr. Bihari, LDN is for preventing disease progression and should help some symptoms, but not necessarily. Since you're case still sounds manageable, this sounds like an excellent time for you to begin.

Actually, I hate the words "manageable" and "mild" and sometimes get tired of having to be grateful that my MS isn't worse and that I can work, etc., etc. It is a major drag not being able to do serious walking anymore! I guess I'm just having one of those occasional feeling-sorry-for-myself days...

Good luck to you, Dierdre.

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Echinacea Pepperfoot

Hey, I know you from Green Tara Mama!

Anyways, I am trying to find info on local classes on sprouting right now.

Then I'll give it a try and I am sure come here with questions.

Jenn

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Rainbow Grocery has organic chickpea flour in their bulk section ... wrote: There are 8 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1a. Bargain Alert - SF! From: hosnar1b. Re: Bargain Alert - SF! From: Newbury2a. homemade soccas From: Newbury2b. Re: homemade soccas From: Connie Hampton2c. Re: homemade soccas From: Debbie Duncan2d. Re: homemade soccas From: Isaiah 2e. Re: homemade soccas From: Newbury3. Kaiser Doctors From: NewburyMessages________________________________________________________________________1a. Bargain Alert - SF! Posted by: "hosnar" hosnar@... hosnar Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:40 pm (PDT)At

Bargain Bank on Clement and 7th Ave, there are Pamela's Pecan Shortbread cookies for 99cents. Many of the cookies are broken, but still very delicious.There are also Mrs. Leeper's GF mac and cheese and lasagna meals for 99 cents, but I don't recommend them.Would appreciate hearing about other bargains in SF, and reviews of GF foods at SF stores such as Rainbow and Whole Foods.SMessages in this topic (2)________________________________________________________________________1b. Re: Bargain Alert - SF! Posted by: "Newbury" pknewbury@... pknewbury Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:39 pm (PDT)My kids love the Mrs Leepers package meals, especially the Chicken Alfredo.Personally, I don't much care for them, but it is an easy meal when we aretraveling or I am in a hurry. Wish I lived close enough to get some; that'sa good price.Pam-----Original

Message-----From: [mailto: ]OnBehalf Of hosnarSent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: [ ] Bargain Alert - SF!At Bargain Bank on Clement and 7th Ave, there are Pamela's PecanShortbread cookies for 99cents. Many of the cookies are broken, butstill very delicious.There are also Mrs. Leeper's GF mac and cheese and lasagna meals for 99cents, but I don't recommend them.Would appreciate hearing about other bargains in SF, and reviews of GFfoods at SF stores such as Rainbow and Whole Foods.SMessages in this topic (2)________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________2a. homemade soccas Posted by: "Newbury" pknewbury@... pknewbury Date: Fri Sep

15, 2006 6:33 pm (PDT)Thanks for the recipe ideas Connie and Debbie. I have never tried soccasbefore, but it sounds like a treat. Where are you getting the garbanzoflour?Pam NewburySanta Cruz Celiac Support Group831-423-6904pknewbury@...-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]OnBehalf Of Debbie DuncanSent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: [ ] homemade soccasI made one for our family last night, by sifting one cup of garbanzo beanflour with 1/2 tsp. salt, then whisking in one cup of warm water and 2 Tbs.olive oil. I cover the bowl let the batter set for at least 30 minutes, thenslice half an onion and add it to the batter, which has the consistency ofcream.By then I've preheated the oven PLUS a big, heavy skillet (cast iron orsomesuch).

I add about 1/2 Tbs. of olive oil to the hot pan, then pour thesocca batter in and bake it 12 - 15 minutes. I add whatever I feel like astoppings -- now it's fresh tomatoes, mushrooms, and sundried tomatoes.Very easy and delicious.On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Isaiah wrote: Seamaiden - Yeah I think it was a freak incident. They are really greatabout using no dairy and no gluten. Of course it's always possible to haveCC cause you can't know exactly what's going on in the plant where the rawingredients are processed... But I am going to continue thinking/hoping ithad nothing to do with gluten! In fact, I'm already craving another socca right now... Gotta learn how tomake them at home ;)Messages in this topic (25)________________________________________________________________________2b. Re: homemade soccas Posted by: "Connie Hampton"

connie@... connie53us Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:58 pm (PDT)Bob's Red Mill carries Garbanzo flour, but I think one can also get it fromthe Indian grocer and the Korean grocer. Pam,I talked with one of the VP's at Prometheus Labs - the company that does thetesting for celiac that the MD's use - they have a state of the artdiagnostic test and are also working on Crohn's disease. We talked aboutthe Stanford conference and how they have not had anyone from Prometheus upto give any talks - how would one suggest that to the Stanford folks? I'dlike to hear from the Prometheus scientists. Connie _____ From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of NewburySent: Friday, September 15, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: [ ] homemade soccas Thanks for the recipe

ideas Connie and Debbie. I have never tried soccasbefore, but it sounds like a treat. Where are you getting the garbanzoflour? Pam Newbury Santa Cruz Celiac Support Group 831-423-6904 pknewbury@... -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]OnBehalf Of Debbie DuncanSent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: [ ] homemade soccasI made one for our family last night, by sifting one cup of garbanzo beanflour with 1/2 tsp. salt, then whisking in one cup of warm water and 2 Tbs.olive oil. I cover the bowl let the batter set for at least 30 minutes, thenslice half an onion and add it to the batter, which has the consistency ofcream. By then I've preheated the oven PLUS a big, heavy skillet (cast iron orsomesuch). I add about 1/2 Tbs. of olive oil to the

hot pan, then pour thesocca batter in and bake it 12 - 15 minutes. I add whatever I feel like astoppings -- now it's fresh tomatoes, mushrooms, and sundried tomatoes. Very easy and delicious. On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Isaiah wrote:Seamaiden - Yeah I think it was a freak incident. They are really greatabout using no dairy and no gluten. Of course it's always possible to haveCC cause you can't know exactly what's going on in the plant where the rawingredients are processed... But I am going to continue thinking/hoping ithad nothing to do with gluten! In fact, I'm already craving another socca right now... Gotta learn how tomake them at home Messages in this topic (25)________________________________________________________________________2c. Re: homemade soccas Posted by: "Debbie Duncan" debbie@...

debbieduncan94305 Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:06 pm (PDT)I order Authentic Foods bags from the G-F Mall. Soccas are our new homemade pizza. (But when I'm in the East Bay, I go to Socca Oven. Molly still loves their pork socca.)On Sep 15, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Newbury wrote:>> Thanks for the recipe ideas Connie and Debbie. I have never tried > soccas before, but it sounds like a treat. Where are you getting > the garbanzo flour?>> Pam Newbury> Santa Cruz Celiac Support Group> 831-423-6904> pknewbury@...>> -----Original Message-----> From: > [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Debbie Duncan> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:47 PM> > Subject: [ ] homemade soccas>> I made one for our family last night, by

sifting one cup of > garbanzo bean flour with 1/2 tsp. salt, then whisking in one cup of > warm water and 2 Tbs. olive oil. I cover the bowl let the batter > set for at least 30 minutes, then slice half an onion and add it to > the batter, which has the consistency of cream.>>> By then I've preheated the oven PLUS a big, heavy skillet (cast > iron or somesuch). I add about 1/2 Tbs. of olive oil to the hot > pan, then pour the socca batter in and bake it 12 - 15 minutes. I > add whatever I feel like as toppings -- now it's fresh tomatoes, > mushrooms, and sundried tomatoes.>> Very easy and delicious.>>> On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Isaiah wrote:>>> Seamaiden - Yeah I think it was a freak incident. They are really >> great about using no dairy and no gluten. Of course it's always >> possible to have CC cause

you can't know exactly what's going on >> in the plant where the raw ingredients are processed... But I am >> going to continue thinking/hoping it had nothing to do with gluten!>>>> In fact, I'm already craving another socca right now... Gotta >> learn how to make them at home >>>>>> Messages in this topic (25)________________________________________________________________________2d. Re: homemade soccas Posted by: "Isaiah " isaiah.benjamin@... ibenjamin816 Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:20 pm (PDT)Thanks to the folks who posted the socca recipes! I'm excited to try them athome but will definitely also keep going to Socca Oven :)For the person who asked, if I'm not mistaken I think i may have boughtgarbanzo flour from a bulk bin at Berkeley Bowl initially (I might beremembering that wrong) but since I'm

concerned about cross-contamination Iwould just buy Bob's Red Mill brand now, as it's inexpensive and readilyavailable at many markets (including some Longs Drugs stores, oddly enough!)Messages in this topic (25)________________________________________________________________________2e. Re: homemade soccas Posted by: "Newbury" pknewbury@... pknewbury Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:25 pm (PDT)Is Bob's Red Mill Garbanzo Flour Gluten-free? I only use their products ifthey have the GF symbol on them. Otherwise they are ground on the samestone as all the other flours and processed in the same area, andcontamination would be a problem. The products marked with the GF symbolare processed separately.You are right to be concerned about contamination from the bulk bins. Eversince I saw the clerk at our local HF store dusting the insides and outsidesof each bulk bin, one after the other, with

the same feather duster, Irealized that there was no way to be sure any bulk bin product wasuncontaminated. Now I only buy bulk bin products if they can be washed (ie,beans).Pam-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]OnBehalf Of Isaiah Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [ ] homemade soccasThanks to the folks who posted the socca recipes! I'm excited to try them athome but will definitely also keep going to Socca Oven :)For the person who asked, if I'm not mistaken I think i may have boughtgarbanzo flour from a bulk bin at Berkeley Bowl initially (I might beremembering that wrong) but since I'm concerned about cross-contamination Iwould just buy Bob's Red Mill brand now, as it's inexpensive and readilyavailable at many markets (including some Longs Drugs

stores, oddly enough!)Messages in this topic (25)________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________3. Kaiser Doctors Posted by: "Newbury" pknewbury@... pknewbury Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:36 pm (PDT)I have a request from a celiac who is looking for a good doc at Kaiser inthe Santa Clara/San Mateo area. She needs help with a possible absorptionproblem and wants to get an absorption test. Anyone have any experiences toshare, good or bad?Thanks,Pam NewburySanta Cruz Celiac Support Group831-423-6904pknewbury@...Messages in this topic

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