Re: Preventive effect of cilantro HMD

[Guest guest]

Dear list,

My reply:

I live in USA, I live too in Mexico, my residence is just 15 minutes from

the border, I can cross the border walking... and I know very well the

customs of Mexico. I have a clinic in Mexicali Mexico where there are

treated patients of all ages and mostly with scarce money funds.

At any part of the posts here at this list, the salary at Russina is

reported as 150.00 dollars/month. Here in Mexico there are places with

similar or less salaries.

Cilantro here at the border Mexico/USA is really cheap. People eat this in a

daily basis,I can said that is more used for the cooking than the corn or

beans.

The average of consumption (daily) is half pound, it is used in soups,

tacos, salsas,salads... you name it!

I recommend to ingest to people contaminated with heavy metals (almost all

with before and after use of cilantro monitored with laboratory tests, that

the patients do not pay, it is paid by my pocket or with donations) half to

one pond a day, blended with orange juice,celery and sea salt.

The laboratory reports are constant: heavy concentrations of metals in urine

and stools are excreted, after the use of cilantro, improvement of toxic

symptoms and a noticeable sensation of wellness.

At this time (Sept. 2005) no side effects of bad reports on cilantro, maybe

is the race, or allergy to cilantro that is reported here, or the way of

exposition to cilantro, remember in Mexico the use of cilantro is continuos,

and an increase of use/dose means nothing for Mexicans.

I am reporting this for the last time, I do not want to start a war of posts

here. If doubts or comments please send me personal e-mails.

Thanks

2005/9/7, T <teamconcepts@...>:

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> Do you have any metal fillings? Who is your friend.. a child or an adult.

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> I know of many Hispanic people who have eaten the stuff daily since birth

> with no problems.. maybe you are allergic to it .. like some people are

> allergic to peanuts. Etc.

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> We all like this sort of food anyway.. and have always eaten it.. not

> daily

> though.. it is easy and it is working.

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>

> Tara

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> _____

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> From: [mailto:

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> On Behalf Of lindajaytee

> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:01 PM

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> Subject: [ ] Re: Preventive effect of cilantro HMD

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> > By the way.. my son has been taking cilantro for over 30 days now and is

> > making huge gains..

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> > Just wanted to let you all know.

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> My friend's serious regression was after a small daily dose for about

> 3 months. She still hasn't recovered. For me, if I remember

> correctly, it was at 6 weeks when it hit me hard.

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[Guest guest]

Good question, but I think the chronic eating of cilantro at dosages " non

chelating " moves just a little of the heavy metals, but the entering to the

body is more than the excreting of them.

Coren, Japan, American factories contaminates in a daily basis air and water

in Mexico due to a lack of contamination control.

One friend of mine told me that in a poll, Mexico is not in the 10 more

corrupts goverments in the world, because they paid under the table (brived)

to the poll people!

Here in Mexico, with money you can start an enviromental toxic factory.

2005/8/25, Ladyshrink111@... <Ladyshrink111@...>:

>

> Question: If they eat cilantro daily, why would they get a build up of

> mercury/heavy metals in the first place. If it chelates the metals and you

> are eating it everyday why does anyone have a problem?

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> [ ] Re: Preventive effect of cilantro HMD

> >

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> >

> >

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> >

> > > By the way.. my son has been taking cilantro for over 30 days now and

> is

> > > making huge gains..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Just wanted to let you all know.

> >

> >

> > My friend's serious regression was after a small daily dose for about

> > 3 months. She still hasn't recovered. For me, if I remember

> > correctly, it was at 6 weeks when it hit me hard.

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[Guest guest]

, thanks for the info, I think it's very interesting.

Debi

> Dear list,

> My reply:

> I live in USA, I live too in Mexico, my residence is just 15 minutes

from

> the border, I can cross the border walking... and I know very well the

> customs of Mexico. I have a clinic in Mexicali Mexico where there are

> treated patients of all ages and mostly with scarce money funds.

> At any part of the posts here at this list, the salary at Russina is

> reported as 150.00 dollars/month. Here in Mexico there are places with

> similar or less salaries.

> Cilantro here at the border Mexico/USA is really cheap. People eat

this in a

> daily basis,I can said that is more used for the cooking than the

corn or

> beans.

> The average of consumption (daily) is half pound, it is used in soups,

> tacos, salsas,salads... you name it!

> I recommend to ingest to people contaminated with heavy metals

(almost all

> with before and after use of cilantro monitored with laboratory

tests, that

> the patients do not pay, it is paid by my pocket or with donations)

half to

> one pond a day, blended with orange juice,celery and sea salt.

> The laboratory reports are constant: heavy concentrations of metals

in urine

> and stools are excreted, after the use of cilantro, improvement of

toxic

> symptoms and a noticeable sensation of wellness.

> At this time (Sept. 2005) no side effects of bad reports on

cilantro, maybe

> is the race, or allergy to cilantro that is reported here, or the

way of

> exposition to cilantro, remember in Mexico the use of cilantro is

continuos,

> and an increase of use/dose means nothing for Mexicans.

> I am reporting this for the last time, I do not want to start a war

of posts

> here. If doubts or comments please send me personal e-mails.

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Now questions are being raised to me, by Steve, that I can not

completely nor fairly answer for Mark.

>

>

-- I raised those questions in response to the HMD study, .

I assume you are referring to my questioning why Mark seemed so pro-

cilantro when he was promoting a study that found cilantro on its onw

was dangerous.

I don't see why you can't answer them as you must have a good

understanding of Mark's agenda

Steve

[Guest guest]

Dear Group, Actually I am sorry to go in one regard. Though I have an alligator

biting at my feet trying to convince you of my lack of integrity and darkness of

purpose it is my dedication in life to help mercury poisoned children and their

families on all the levels I can. I have not wavered for a minute in this for

over two years. I truly enjoy giving and learning so I can give more and there

have been moments when it seemed we as a group here were going in a good

direction that would provide valuable support and information to many. But alas

that is not to be and I had no choice. I choose to be honest with my feelings

and thoughts and expressions knowing full well the ax that was being held on top

of my virtual neck. Personally there is no need to worry about me for I always

turn adversity into a positive advantage. I wish everyone well and good fortune

and all the healing and good energy you all no doubt deserve.

Dear Steve,

who can't read medical

abstracts properly, How is it that someone who a few months ago

was asking newbie questions about magnesium,

Your aggressiveness knows no limits and how the moderator tolerates you makes me

wonder and doubt about her integrity to no limit.

and had no real understanding of the nature of

the blood brain barrier can promote himself as a natural therapist?

Steve this is the last communication you will ever get from me but for the rest

of your life you will have to read the IMVA communications or at least delete

them. There is no way any of us from the IMVA are going to waste another moment

reading your low level verbiage. Your last post about Dr. is just another

case in point. Can't you get anything right?

What exactly did Mark's training involve

Why would you be interested in anyone's training? I can't imagine you have

training in anything but being one royal pain in the ass. Your questions are all

directed beneath the belt and only show your uncontrolled hostility and

infantile obsession to tear someone down. I feel really sorry for the people in

the group having to listen to you without end. We at the IMVA will not be in the

loop anymore in this group though we will make sure the IMVA communications do

reach the group since this is a free country. Funny but even here, even with

your foulness, our friends in the group remain our friends.

and does it have any

relevance to the treatment of autism?

It is a pleasure to say goodbye to you. We could go on all day about this

question but how about for starters just say autism is a label that just covers

up the real problem which is mercury and other toxic poisoning. This is the

autism mercury group after all. After you write a book about mercury and its

toxicity perhaps we should talk about relevance and the treatment of children.

But since that will never happen and we have written one there is nothing more

to say.

What you have done in this group is to cut off discussion, to take things down

to the absurd, to dominate and dictate the direction and flow to 5000 families.

You have insisted on making sure everyone listen to your tunnel vision.

Boring.do you really think you are helping anyone?

Why was he promoting a

chelation protocol that he had no personal experience with, either

as a patient, practitioner or parent? And why is he not honest about

the fact that he has had no experience in treating autistic kids?

Well there was nothing ever hidden about my entry into this field Steve. Let's

take magnesium. If we follow your lead we deny our children the magnesium they

need and keep up with the old ways that just do not cut the mustard. Oral

magnesium is in reality a waste of time and I know how to make myself an expert

on something meaning I have an open mind and heart that can see what needs to be

seen. In a matter of less than a month I wrote a booklet on Magnesium and went

from knowing almost nothing to getting many people to try and like something you

would keep people from. Some of the big names in Autism are trying it right

now..and liking it. It might take a while Steve for the word to get around and

for people to see but sooner or later you will be stuck with your finger in your

navel looking like an idiot and an obstructionist and worse. For the worse part

see below.

Though with the help of many of the professions in the field I have been flying

with my research and have recently, as I announced I believe, started to treat

patients on the spectrum. Yes it's new to me and very difficult and I know of

some professionals who are leaving because of the heartache. You know that each

health care professional who is working in the field has started at one point

and my point was just a month ago.

You and Mark have avoided these key issues while nitpicking around

the edges.

I am so glad you have to live with yourself Steve. When it comes to human to

human communication, forget about scientific or medical communication, you don't

qualify. For instance about cilantro. I have shown my interest and trust in

others on this issue BUT HAVE NOT GOTTEN AROUND YET TO EXPERIMENTING ON MYSELF

SO I HAVE NOTHING PERSONAL TO SAY ABOUT THAT except that I have promised to

weigh in heavily on the subject. Today I received here in Brazil 3240 capsules

of Chelorex and will start taking it right away. And I will be giving some away

for others to try.

this is exactly what I mean about dishonesty

Well I must say you are really honest with your ugliness. Yes you are honest

about your bias and closed mind and rigidity and hostility. There is something

beautiful in that no doubt.

and

misdirection. this is the kind of behavior that has seen him thrown

off several lists

Yes I was thrown off one group recently for my honest communication to Mark

Shauss. So what? Funny you You remind me of him for some reason. Being thrown

off this list for me personally is a relief, I am really happy to be able to say

a final goodbye to you. Really, happy is the word. Almost like getting out of

jail or purgatory. How is it you managed to do me such a great favor?

and that it was close to NDF which isn't working for people

This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard, this kind of trash (I am

quoting actually from someone else with these words) me, myself and I would be

more accurate and just call you a medical terrorist.almost equal to the MD and

pharmaceutical kinds. Now don't get too excited anyone who is reading this.

First I am an expert on pharmaceutical terrorism and medical insanity. Do a

search on medical insanity and I think I still hold half the first page of

listings on Google for that. But I can and will concede, if not a medical

terrorist you might only be a medical idiot.

I just read a great post in another group that knows how to be a group, a person

who is using a little td-dmps (low dose) and on the off day NDF +, and everyone

is very excited because of the incredible results. Happiness is the word and wow

and congratulations to this brave mother of a mercury poisoned child.

Behaviorally the child is doing just awesome. Major progress in the last few

months of chelation in

pragmatic and social language to the point where the child has lost his

diagnosis and is doing great playing and conversing with other kids,

participating in games

and circle time, asking and answering why questions, etc. Now you have

single-handedly with the help of PJ cut the group off from discussion and

further information about this case. Congratulations..for everyone loses in the

group. This mother by the way had the money to test extensively and has all the

data. But you would never open your mind and would deny your child.so yes it

would be really hard for me to perceive you as anything but a molester of

children and parents in need.

.............he doesn't realize that NDF is nanosized which might be one reason

for greater problems in people, it potentiates the effects of the chlorella and

cilantro...

I have personally talked to Dr. Ray and extensively with Dr.

Georgiou and of course the people who developed Chelorex..and Dr. and sure

you would make them the terrorists.all sellers of a terrible Detox and chelation

product that does not work and even worse, makes people ill. I am not saying it

is totally safe to use, and neither is ALA and DMSA. All detoxification and

chelation should be done under the care of a primary health care worker.

is one did you know that? Who and the hell are you anyway? I am glad I will not

be around and will not be around to hear your response. If the group

entertains a fool like you that's their problem but we are out of here. Ate logo

Steve. I have thanked PJ for my liberation for I am a dedicated fool and would

never have left on my own.

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

Director of the International Medical Veritas Association

[ ] Re: Preventive effect of cilantro HMD

> Now questions are being raised to me, by Steve, that I can not

completely nor fairly answer for Mark.

>

>

-- I raised those questions in response to the HMD study, .

I assume you are referring to my questioning why Mark seemed so pro-

cilantro when he was promoting a study that found cilantro on its onw

was dangerous.

I don't see why you can't answer them as you must have a good

understanding of Mark's agenda

Steve

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[Guest guest]

>

>

> <<<Always looking for something of value, this was the best I

could come up with amidst this message.

>

>

> Yes I was thrown off one group recently for my honest

communication to Mark Shauss. So what? Funny you You remind me of him

for some reason.

>

> <<<Funny, I never realized it either, but he is right. Mark

Shauss and Steve do remind me of each other, kind, decent, giving,

generous and respectful. Gosh, thanks. Goes to show you, always a

silver lining in every cloud.

>

>

-- Mark Schauss is smarter, better qualified and no doubt more

handsome, but I'm very flattered in being compared to him.

It is also a relief to know that the good Mark S. can now post

without being flamed for someone else's excesses.

Steve

[Guest guest]

To this list:

I tried to be concise with the cilantro theme.

I wil try to make all of you understand why, how frequently and the uses of

cilantro at least in Mexico. When we are at the keyboard, we forgot

sometimes that people reading our post do not know (And never will) the

customs and flolklore of a distant country.

I will make a web page showing to all of you the daily quantities the

average mexican consumes of cilantro. If you say to a Mexican that cilantro

is toxic... he/she will start laughing aloud for several minutes! It equals

to saying that tomato, potatoes, mangoes, bananas are toxic!

Because posting cases, lab. reports and all the info I have in my mind to

show to all of you in this list will be almost imposible, I will made a web

page with all of this. Please be patient because this will be made in my

spare time, I am not dedicated full time to read and write here or in

another list...

2005/9/9, steve_rotherham <steve.rotherham@...>:

>

>

> >

> >

> > <<<Always looking for something of value, this was the best I

> could come up with amidst this message.

> >

> >

> > Yes I was thrown off one group recently for my honest

> communication to Mark Shauss. So what? Funny you You remind me of him

> for some reason.

> >

> > <<<Funny, I never realized it either, but he is right. Mark

> Shauss and Steve do remind me of each other, kind, decent, giving,

> generous and respectful. Gosh, thanks. Goes to show you, always a

> silver lining in every cloud.

> >

> >

>

> -- Mark Schauss is smarter, better qualified and no doubt more

> handsome, but I'm very flattered in being compared to him.

>

> It is also a relief to know that the good Mark S. can now post

> without being flamed for someone else's excesses.

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. ,

I appreciate the fact that you take your time to communicate with us

in this group.

Could you please tell me what the diet is like for the average person

in Mexico. I have not been to Mexico, so I don't really know for

sure. One of the things that I was thinking is that the diet in

Mexico (less sugar, less gluten, less 'bad' fats, more omega 3 fats,

perhaps less dairy, as compared to the US, Canada, and Europe) and the

increased blood levels of vitamin D because of sun exposure in Mexico

might protect the average Mexican to some extent from mercury and

other heavy metal poisoning. Perhaps Mexicans have strong bones and

teeth and therefore do not get as much exposure to mercury in the form

of mercury amalgam? And, do Mexican children have the same sort of

vaccination program as American children do?

The other thing is that there are genetic differences between the

Mexican population and the US, Canadian, European population. The

tendancy to accumulate heavy metals does seem to have a genetic

component. If I remember correctly (I can't remember where I read

this) the German and Scandinavian populations are quite susceptible to

heavy metals (my own ancestors can be traced to those two populations).

It's not that cilantro is toxic. It is that when the 'active

ingredient' in cilantro holds on to heavy metal and moves it, the

heavy metal is toxic. There is the risk that the cilantro ingredient

can move heavy metal to the brain or other sensitive tissues. It is

the people who are very severely poisoned (such as myself) who would

be at high risk of moving heavy metal to the brain if they consume

cilantro. If someone is not very toxic perhaps the risk would be less.

If you are still interested to read the reports from some mercury

poisoned adults who have experimented with cilantro and have had

severe worsening of symptoms let me know (email me direct). I can

find some of these messages in archives but I haven't forwarded them

to you because I didn't know that you were still interested.

All the best

(a mercury poisoned Canadian)

> To this list:

> I tried to be concise with the cilantro theme.

> I wil try to make all of you understand why, how frequently and the

uses of

> cilantro at least in Mexico. When we are at the keyboard, we forgot

> sometimes that people reading our post do not know (And never will) the

> customs and flolklore of a distant country.

> I will make a web page showing to all of you the daily quantities the

> average mexican consumes of cilantro. If you say to a Mexican that

cilantro

> is toxic... he/she will start laughing aloud for several minutes! It

equals

> to saying that tomato, potatoes, mangoes, bananas are toxic!

> Because posting cases, lab. reports and all the info I have in my

mind to

> show to all of you in this list will be almost imposible, I will

made a web

> page with all of this. Please be patient because this will be made

in my

> spare time, I am not dedicated full time to read and write here or in

> another list...

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for yor comments, .

Could you clarify please what dosing schedule works best for your

patients, ie is it important that cilantro be given at 3 or 4 times a

day, or even every few hours? And must it be given for several days

in a row?

Or in your opinion, is it safe to simply take cilantro in one-off

doses?

Also, is it necessary to take any specific supplements with cilantro?

And when using cilantro, how is the mercury and other metals

excreted? Via urine, stools or both? Or by other means?

Please note, re my comments on HMD study findings re cilantro - I was

not saying those findings were correct, I was simply pointing out a

contradiction between those findings and claims made by the person

posting those findings re use of cilantro.

I have no idea what the correct use of cilantro might be, so I am

interested in any information you have.

Thank you

Steve

> > > By the way.. my son has been taking cilantro for over 30 days

now and is

> > > making huge gains..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Just wanted to let you all know.

> >

> >

> > My friend's serious regression was after a small daily dose for

about

> > 3 months. She still hasn't recovered. For me, if I remember

> > correctly, it was at 6 weeks when it hit me hard.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

Also, Mexicans may SWEAT a lot more since the weather is hot and air

conditioning may not be as widely available? Or is that a misbelief??

Barb

[ ] Re: Preventive effect of cilantro HMD

>

> Dear Dr. ,

>

> I appreciate the fact that you take your time to communicate with us

> in this group.

>

> Could you please tell me what the diet is like for the average person

> in Mexico. I have not been to Mexico, so I don't really know for

> sure. One of the things that I was thinking is that the diet in

> Mexico (less sugar, less gluten, less 'bad' fats, more omega 3 fats,

> perhaps less dairy, as compared to the US, Canada, and Europe) and the

> increased blood levels of vitamin D because of sun exposure in Mexico

> might protect the average Mexican to some extent from mercury and

> other heavy metal poisoning. Perhaps Mexicans have strong bones and

> teeth and therefore do not get as much exposure to mercury in the form

> of mercury amalgam? And, do Mexican children have the same sort of

> vaccination program as American children do?

>

> The other thing is that there are genetic differences between the

> Mexican population and the US, Canadian, European population. The

> tendancy to accumulate heavy metals does seem to have a genetic

> component. If I remember correctly (I can't remember where I read

> this) the German and Scandinavian populations are quite susceptible to

> heavy metals (my own ancestors can be traced to those two populations).

>

> It's not that cilantro is toxic. It is that when the 'active

> ingredient' in cilantro holds on to heavy metal and moves it, the

> heavy metal is toxic. There is the risk that the cilantro ingredient

> can move heavy metal to the brain or other sensitive tissues. It is

> the people who are very severely poisoned (such as myself) who would

> be at high risk of moving heavy metal to the brain if they consume

> cilantro. If someone is not very toxic perhaps the risk would be less.

>

> If you are still interested to read the reports from some mercury

> poisoned adults who have experimented with cilantro and have had

> severe worsening of symptoms let me know (email me direct). I can

> find some of these messages in archives but I haven't forwarded them

> to you because I didn't know that you were still interested.

>

> All the best

>

> (a mercury poisoned Canadian)

>

>

>

>

>> To this list:

>> I tried to be concise with the cilantro theme.

>> I wil try to make all of you understand why, how frequently and the

> uses of

>> cilantro at least in Mexico. When we are at the keyboard, we forgot

>> sometimes that people reading our post do not know (And never will) the

>> customs and flolklore of a distant country.

>> I will make a web page showing to all of you the daily quantities the

>> average mexican consumes of cilantro. If you say to a Mexican that

> cilantro

>> is toxic... he/she will start laughing aloud for several minutes! It

> equals

>> to saying that tomato, potatoes, mangoes, bananas are toxic!

>> Because posting cases, lab. reports and all the info I have in my

> mind to

>> show to all of you in this list will be almost imposible, I will

> made a web

>> page with all of this. Please be patient because this will be made

> in my

>> spare time, I am not dedicated full time to read and write here or in

>> another list...

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>>>Also, Mexicans may SWEAT a lot more since the weather is hot and air

conditioning may not be as widely available? Or is that a misbelief??

Barb

----

That would fit with my personal experience of safely eating cilantro while

taking daily hot baths and sweating a lot from that. And my recollection from

something I read is that places like Mexico and India eat spicey food to promote

sweating as a cooling mechanism in the face of extreme heat. So I think you

make an excellent point.

Michele in California

calif.michele@...

webmaster@...

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http://www.califmichele.com

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Albert Einstein

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/09/2005 04:15:04 GMT Daylight Time,

jromkema@... writes:

Also, Mexicans may SWEAT a lot more since the weather is hot and air

conditioning may not be as widely available? Or is that a misbelief??

>>>I am thinking if the Cilantro is always in their diet they are unlikely

to be as toxic as persons who don't eat it as the norm???? Which would in turn

explain why there is alack of negatives in this population..................?

Mandi in UK almost braindead now, looking forwards to alex's web site

[Guest guest]

> Here's a thought: we're on an autism board. Many older children/adults

> with autism frequent autism boards. What's the main characteristic of

> autism: lack of social skills. This means there's a good chance at

> least some of the people posting here do not understand social

> protocols and tend to " shoot straight from the hip " -- those of you

> with autism, that means just saying what you think, not knowing it

> might offend others. There's also a good chance that many family

> members who post here also have some of those tendancies, if not

> undxed cases themselves.

It took me about 2 years, lots of hard work and the help of an

e-friend that would put up with me, to develop a posting style that

would work for me and not get me kicked off the message boards.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>>>It took me about 2 years, lots of hard work and the help of an

e-friend that would put up with me, to develop a posting style that

would work for me and not get me kicked off the message boards.

>>>Dana

----

I don't think I ever qualified for a dx of asperger's or anything like that, but

I learned how to write without pissing everyone off while on " review " (on a

different list) for *4 months* when withdrawal from steroids was making me a

paranoid, unstable whack job. Trying to figure out how to get stuff approved by

the moderator so I was allowed to post at all under such difficult circumstances

means that I have to be really, extremely whacked out to not hold my own in the

face of stressful, controversial on-list stuff. (Okay, I did tick someone off

yesterday -- the day after I was in a car wreck and on lots of ibuprofen. But

nothing compared to the FLAMES I used to go down in while going through 22

months of drug withdrawal. roflol.)

Michele in California

calif.michele@...

webmaster@...

Visit Michele's World! of (Twice) Exceptional Homeschooling

http://www.califmichele.com

" Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. " --

Albert Einstein

[Guest guest]

> I don't think I ever qualified for a dx of asperger's or anything

like that, but I learned how to write without pissing everyone off

while on " review " (on a different list) for *4 months* when withdrawal

from steroids was making me a paranoid, unstable whack job.

I don't post on any lists where my messages are subject to review. I

dropped all of those lists, not worth my time.

Only four months? Congrats! [Too bad I don't have drug withdrawal to

blame *my* problems on LOL]

>>not hold my own in the face of stressful, controversial on-list stuff.

Yep, those messages are the most difficult, usually, to write.

>>(Okay, I did tick someone off yesterday -- the day after I was in a

car wreck and on lots of ibuprofen.

I don't post at all on days that I am really not feeling well.

And I avoid posting " opinion pieces " unless something REALLY triggers

me, and I write the message [over several hours] and then wait 24

hours before I post it, to be sure it is worth the potential aggravation.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Review: I don't think they normally do that, though they can. The list owner

knew me before my major medical crisis and I was extremely grateful that she was

willing to put in the time to make it possible for me to continue to

participate. It was also an enormous learning experience for me, since she is

very well mannered, etc -- unlike my innate fiery personality. <rolls eyes>

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>I don't post at all on days that I am really not feeling well.

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I tend to lie low as well but I often can post without a problem, even when I

feel crummy. I think there is, um, personal " history " behind the person's

reaction. <shrug>

Michele in California

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[Guest guest]

I realized too that they use more lemons and limes in their

diet on a daily basis and this is good for detoxing the liver.

Americans don't go wild on lemons regularly. It is interesting

that there could be so many factors used on a daily basis that

comes natural to a culture that we have no idea of the balance

they play in health. Not to mention that each culture relies on

different herbs for flavoring than other cultures do.

Liz D.

> [Original Message]

> From: jromkema <jromkema@...>

> < >

> Date: 9/10/2005 8:14:34 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Preventive effect of cilantro HMD

>

> Also, Mexicans may SWEAT a lot more since the weather is hot and air

> conditioning may not be as widely available? Or is that a misbelief??

> Barb

[Guest guest]

> Review: I don't think they normally do that, though they can. The

list owner knew me before my major medical crisis and I was extremely

grateful that she was willing to put in the time to make it possible

for me to continue to participate. It was also an enormous learning

experience for me, since she is very well mannered, etc

I did this with an e-friend who agreed to be on Instant Message with

me while I posted things. I asked him questions, etc. Very helpful.

>>unlike my innate fiery personality. <rolls eyes>

I am not fiery, altho I won't try to describe my personality in public LOL

> I tend to lie low as well but I often can post without a problem,

even when I feel crummy.

It is easier to post now [except opinion pieces], even when I don't

feel well, but if I am feeling really lousy, I won't risk anything

except private email to people who know me well.

Dana