Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at birth...that was accidental). He got the DTaP series starting at 13 months...1 every month until we reached 4 total. Looking back, that was our biggest mistake. Thank God we stopped there. The only reason we didn't do ALL of the vaccinations is b/c we had concerns about vaccinations and autism. How IRONIC!! Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether or not to partially vaccinate him or not. The hard thing is not knowing why our oldest is autistic. Seeing how our baby is developing socially, the oldest wasn't " right " even as a baby. BUT, we don't know if it's b/c of the Hep. B(at birth) and early antibiotic use(eye infection at 8 weeks) that made him autistic or if he would have been like this aside from those things. Seeing the baby develop normally has been wonderful and we don't want to do anything to his little system to mess that up. I definately want to wait until he's at least 1 year old. Suggestions? Can someone explain to me why some people can give all of the vaccinations to their children, along with plenty of antibiotics and have their children develop normally? I know I have flawed genes but come on! :-) I was trying to save my child and ended up hurting him. Guess I'm still a little bitter(though I don't know how a person gets rid of the regrets)....our sons dx was 6 months ago. We appreciate the resourses we've gotten from this group. Thanks, Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 > > Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at > birth...that was accidental). He got the DTaP series starting at 13 > months...1 every month until we reached 4 total. Looking back, that > was our biggest mistake. Thank God we stopped there. The only > reason we didn't do ALL of the vaccinations is b/c we had concerns > about vaccinations and autism. How IRONIC!! > > Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has > not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether > or not to partially vaccinate him or not. Hi Rhonda, There is a wonderful group with VERY knowledgable people on vaccines, There are a few RN's on this group and the moderator herself is an RN. Great information regarding vaccines. Description This list is for parents and others who are looking at the issue of vaccinations and the dangers that are becoming more and more apparant. This list is for all who are looking at making a decision to not vaccinate, who vaccinate selectively, who have made a choice not to vaccinate their children at all or who have stopped vaccinating their children after starting. This list is for support and to share information. I am the moderator & I post medical journal articles and other vaccine information & news. And the participants all post information and questions. This list does produce a HIGH volume of mail but lots of great information. Vaccinations/ Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 > > Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at > birth...that was accidental). My son has a dx of " classic Kanner's autism " which means " autistic from birth " . He had HepB vax at birth. It was the cause of his autism. > Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has > not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether > or not to partially vaccinate him or not. If you choose to waive vax, find your state here http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm I have info on " safer " vax here http://www.danasview.net/myvaxopn.htm Here is my entire vaccine section, so you can make an informed decision http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#vaccines > Seeing the baby develop normally has been wonderful and we don't want > to do anything to his little system to mess that up. I definately > want to wait until he's at least 1 year old. Suggestions? Then wait at least until he is a year old. That should not be that difficult to do, unless you are trying to enroll him in day care, in which case you will probably need to use the waiver info from the first link I posted. > Can someone explain to me why some people can give all of the > vaccinations to their children, along with plenty of antibiotics and > have their children develop normally? Probably because their bodies are able to clear metals relatively quickly. Autistic kids generally cannot clear metals, some clear slowly, some don't clear at all. Some of the kids receive dx of ADD, ADHD, CAPD, PDD, bipolar, OCD, BD, ODD, severe allergies, and probably several other dx that I am not including here. Just because a child does not have an " autism " dx, does not necessarily mean he was not injured by vaccinations. My son no longer qualifies as autistic. He required chelation, anti-virals, and several supplements. So there is hope for your child, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 > > Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has > > not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether > > or not to partially vaccinate him or not. Don't. It is not possible to find accurate information about the risks of vaccines now due to all the propaganda and rear end covering behavior of the medical field and industry. He is in a high risk category. The longer you wait, the safer it is, though not safe. I know of lots of adult cases of severe permanent illness due to hep B vaccines btw. Also, the chance of exposure to the diseases is small. If there is a local epidemic, consider the merits of vaccinating him against that specific disease, otherwise wait for better information and safer vaccinatinos. Do NOT vaccinate against non-serious diseases like chicken pox. The vaccine is more dangerous than the disease, and also in that case seems to guarantee repeated shingles outbreaks. Andy . . . . . .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 A DPT booster caused my nephew's vaccine-induced autism. S <tt> <BR> <BR> > <BR> > Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at <BR> > birth...that was accidental).<BR> <BR> <BR> My son has a dx of " classic Kanner's autism " which means " autistic<BR> from birth " . He had HepB vax at birth. It was the cause of his autism.<BR> <BR> <BR> > Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has <BR> > not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether <BR> > or not to partially vaccinate him or not.<BR> <BR> <BR> If you choose to waive vax, find your state here<BR> <BR> <a href= " http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm " >http://home.san.rr.com/vi\ a/STATES/allstates.htm</a><BR> <BR> I have info on " safer " vax here<BR> <BR> <a href= " http://www.danasview.net/myvaxopn.htm " >http://www.danasview.net/myvaxopn.h\ tm</a><BR> <BR> Here is my entire vaccine section, so you can make an informed decision<BR> <BR> <a href= " http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#vaccines " >http://www.danasview.net/pa\ rent3.htm#vaccines</a><BR> <BR> <BR> > Seeing the baby develop normally has been wonderful and we don't want <BR> > to do anything to his little system to mess that up. I definately <BR> > want to wait until he's at least 1 year old. Suggestions?<BR> <BR> <BR> Then wait at least until he is a year old. That should not be that<BR> difficult to do, unless you are trying to enroll him in day care, in<BR> which case you will probably need to use the waiver info from the<BR> first link I posted.<BR> <BR> <BR> > Can someone explain to me why some people can give all of the <BR> > vaccinations to their children, along with plenty of antibiotics and <BR> > have their children develop normally?<BR> <BR> <BR> Probably because their bodies are able to clear metals relatively<BR> quickly. Autistic kids generally cannot clear metals, some clear<BR> slowly, some don't clear at all.<BR> <BR> Some of the kids receive dx of ADD, ADHD, CAPD, PDD, bipolar, OCD, BD,<BR> ODD, severe allergies, and probably several other dx that I am not<BR> including here. Just because a child does not have an " autism " dx,<BR> does not necessarily mean he was not injured by vaccinations.<BR> <BR> My son no longer qualifies as autistic. He required chelation,<BR> anti-virals, and several supplements. So there is hope for your<BR> child, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.<BR> <BR> Dana<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 My son was vacinnated twice for DPT after the doctor adviced us that since the 1st one didnt seems to have worked (normally a wound appears on the hand where the vaccine was administered). Could this be the cause of his autism and what is the best remedy to address this. Am still new to the group. Thanks > ---------- > From: Shepard[sMTP:_Shepard@...] > Sent: 29 March 2005 00:41 > > Subject: [ ] Re: baby and vaccinations > > > > A DPT booster caused my nephew's vaccine-induced autism. > S > > > > > > <tt> > <BR> > <BR> > > <BR> > > Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at > <BR> > > birth...that was accidental).<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > My son has a dx of " classic Kanner's autism " which means " autistic<BR> > from birth " . He had HepB vax at birth. It was the cause of his > autism.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > > Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has > <BR> > > not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether <BR> > > or not to partially vaccinate him or not.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > If you choose to waive vax, find your state here<BR> > <BR> > <a > href= " http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm " >http://home.san.rr. > com/via/STATES/allstates.htm</a><BR> > <BR> > I have info on " safer " vax here<BR> > <BR> > <a > href= " http://www.danasview.net/myvaxopn.htm " >http://www.danasview.net/myva > xopn.htm</a><BR> > <BR> > Here is my entire vaccine section, so you can make an informed > decision<BR> > <BR> > <a > href= " http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#vaccines " >http://www.danasview. > net/parent3.htm#vaccines</a><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > > Seeing the baby develop normally has been wonderful and we don't want > <BR> > > to do anything to his little system to mess that up. I definately <BR> > > want to wait until he's at least 1 year old. Suggestions?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Then wait at least until he is a year old. That should not be that<BR> > difficult to do, unless you are trying to enroll him in day care, in<BR> > which case you will probably need to use the waiver info from the<BR> > first link I posted.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > > Can someone explain to me why some people can give all of the <BR> > > vaccinations to their children, along with plenty of antibiotics and > <BR> > > have their children develop normally?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Probably because their bodies are able to clear metals relatively<BR> > quickly. Autistic kids generally cannot clear metals, some clear<BR> > slowly, some don't clear at all.<BR> > <BR> > Some of the kids receive dx of ADD, ADHD, CAPD, PDD, bipolar, OCD, BD,<BR> > ODD, severe allergies, and probably several other dx that I am not<BR> > including here. Just because a child does not have an " autism " dx,<BR> > does not necessarily mean he was not injured by vaccinations.<BR> > <BR> > My son no longer qualifies as autistic. He required chelation,<BR> > anti-virals, and several supplements. So there is hope for your<BR> > child, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.<BR> > <BR> > Dana<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 I truly believe that if it happened to one child b/c of our genetic make up, then why should the next child be at less of a risk? My youngest is 6.5months old and will NEVER be vaccinated on my watch. He is already at risk b/c of the mercury in my system, I will not add to it with shots. To each his own, i can't tell you not to vaccinate YOUR child, but I refuse to vax mine. Have you read Cave's book? " What you doctor may not tell you about childhood vaccinations " ? She is a doctor who DOES vax her patients on a more spread out schedule. But after reading that book, along with " How to raise a health child in spit of you doctor " by Medelsohn (a pediatrician) I have sworn off all vaccines and well baby checkups. My baby is health, never sick and will remain that way as long as modern medicine keeps their grubby dirty hands off of him. --by the way, 10 years ago I worshiped the medical model as I worked IN IT. THEN I educated myself and I will never go back. Doctors are there for us for emergencies and when we gert sick. In the meantime my family stays health in a proactive sense. All theother babies I know who are Liam's age are SICK SICK SICK. Ear infections, illnesses... just like my fully vax's autistic son was whenhe was little. Liam has had none and wasteful doctor appts and only got the sniffles once... last thanksgiving, while the rest of us were sick for over a week, he was sick for 2 days. He is healthy and happy and meeting/exceeding all his milestones. [ ] baby and vaccinations Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at birth...that was accidental). He got the DTaP series starting at 13 months...1 every month until we reached 4 total. Looking back, that was our biggest mistake. Thank God we stopped there. The only reason we didn't do ALL of the vaccinations is b/c we had concerns about vaccinations and autism. How IRONIC!! Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether or not to partially vaccinate him or not. The hard thing is not knowing why our oldest is autistic. Seeing how our baby is developing socially, the oldest wasn't " right " even as a baby. BUT, we don't know if it's b/c of the Hep. B(at birth) and early antibiotic use(eye infection at 8 weeks) that made him autistic or if he would have been like this aside from those things. Seeing the baby develop normally has been wonderful and we don't want to do anything to his little system to mess that up. I definately want to wait until he's at least 1 year old. Suggestions? Can someone explain to me why some people can give all of the vaccinations to their children, along with plenty of antibiotics and have their children develop normally? I know I have flawed genes but come on! :-) I was trying to save my child and ended up hurting him. Guess I'm still a little bitter(though I don't know how a person gets rid of the regrets)....our sons dx was 6 months ago. We appreciate the resourses we've gotten from this group. Thanks, Rhonda ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 You might want to go into the files and read for a week or so! Also read " " Evidence of Harm " by Kirby. Barb [ ] Re: baby and vaccinations >> >> >> >> A DPT booster caused my nephew's vaccine-induced autism. >> S >> >> >> >> >> >> <tt> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> > <BR> >> > Hi. We have a 2.5 year old ASD son(partially vaccinated..Hep. B. at >> <BR> >> > birth...that was accidental).<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> My son has a dx of " classic Kanner's autism " which means " autistic<BR> >> from birth " . He had HepB vax at birth. It was the cause of his >> autism.<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> > Anyhow, getting to the point. Our youngest son is 7.5 months and has >> <BR> >> > not had any vaccinations yet. I'm still on the fence as to whether >> > <BR> >> > or not to partially vaccinate him or not.<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> If you choose to waive vax, find your state here<BR> >> <BR> >> <a >> href= " http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm " >http://home.san.rr. >> com/via/STATES/allstates.htm</a><BR> >> <BR> >> I have info on " safer " vax here<BR> >> <BR> >> <a >> href= " http://www.danasview.net/myvaxopn.htm " >http://www.danasview.net/myva >> xopn.htm</a><BR> >> <BR> >> Here is my entire vaccine section, so you can make an informed >> decision<BR> >> <BR> >> <a >> href= " http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#vaccines " >http://www.danasview. >> net/parent3.htm#vaccines</a><BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> > Seeing the baby develop normally has been wonderful and we don't want >> <BR> >> > to do anything to his little system to mess that up. I definately <BR> >> > want to wait until he's at least 1 year old. Suggestions?<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> Then wait at least until he is a year old. That should not be that<BR> >> difficult to do, unless you are trying to enroll him in day care, in<BR> >> which case you will probably need to use the waiver info from the<BR> >> first link I posted.<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> > Can someone explain to me why some people can give all of the <BR> >> > vaccinations to their children, along with plenty of antibiotics and >> <BR> >> > have their children develop normally?<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> Probably because their bodies are able to clear metals relatively<BR> >> quickly. Autistic kids generally cannot clear metals, some clear<BR> >> slowly, some don't clear at all.<BR> >> <BR> >> Some of the kids receive dx of ADD, ADHD, CAPD, PDD, bipolar, OCD, >> BD,<BR> >> ODD, severe allergies, and probably several other dx that I am not<BR> >> including here. Just because a child does not have an " autism " dx,<BR> >> does not necessarily mean he was not injured by vaccinations.<BR> >> <BR> >> My son no longer qualifies as autistic. He required chelation,<BR> >> anti-virals, and several supplements. So there is hope for your<BR> >> child, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.<BR> >> <BR> >> Dana<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> </tt> >> >> <br><br> >> <tt> >> =======================================================<BR> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 You know I have been wondering about that for years! I think I may have accidently had my sons shots given twice. Not all of them but we switched pediatricians so many times in those early years (like five times!) that I lost track of what he had had. They would ask me and I was so disorganized that I think that I just went from memory which is never a smart thing to do. So there is some guilt there although I could be worring for nothing! Keep in touch! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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