Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Hi Diane, I mix it with juice, and take the dose in a medecine dropper. He sucks on it, without waking up. The first times are not as easy, but it is way easier than what I thought it would be! Good luck, > I am thinking of trying chelation with ALA for my son, but the one thing that holds me back is HOW I'm going to be able to wake up my 3- yr-old in the night, and get him to DRINK? I don't understand this! I don't mind myself getting up, although I'm sure it isn't the easiest thing weekend after weekend, but I would move mountains to help my son, so my lack of sleep is not what's stopping me. I just don't know if I'll be able to get him to actually drink anything if I CAN wake him up, and then getting him back to sleep could be even worse, because once he's up, he's UP! Any suggestions? Sorry if this is an old and over-asked question .. . > > ~Diane > Mom to Aaren, age 3, ASD > > > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 > I am thinking of trying chelation with ALA for my son, but the one thing that holds me back is HOW I'm going to be able to wake up my 3-yr-old in the night, and get him to DRINK? You don't wake him up, just pop it in his mouth and swallowing is reflexive. He'll be about half awake by the time you are done, roll over, and go back to sleep. > I don't understand this! It is VERY IMPORTANT that you not get yourself worked up into a frenxy about this. If you expect it to be a bad experience, it will be. While autistic, your child is a lot more sensitive to your emotional state than you may think and if you expect problems he will give them to you. I have repeatedly had this issue in cases I was consulting on, and once the mother mellowed out and expected it to go smoothly, it did. >I don't mind myself getting up, although I'm sure it isn't the easiest thing weekend after weekend, but I would move mountains to help my son, so my lack of sleep is not what's stopping me. I just don't know if I'll be able to get him to actually drink anything if I CAN wake him up, and then getting him back to sleep could be even worse, because once he's up, he's UP! Any suggestions? Sorry if this is an old and over-asked question .. . > > ~Diane > Mom to Aaren, age 3, ASD > > > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 This was very hard for me at the beginning. I initially wanted to start chelation when I got suspicious about mercury toxicity. I just couldn't do it. I felt like I was abusing my son (my daughter took it easier right from the start). When I got the hairtest back, there was no choice anymore. I knew he had to take it, doesn't matter the cost. If he fought me I took him out of bed into another room and told him he could go back to bed once he swallowed it. I did not have to do this very often. After a few times I started playing a game with him. He sleeps with lots of cuddly animals in his bed. I made them talk to each other, have arguments about who was allowed to give my son his ALA. Once he felt sorry enough for one of them, he usually took it. Now I just put the capsule in his mouth and he swallows it without waking. So, what I am saying is, even if you struggle in the beginning, there is still hope and many people manage all right from the start. Dagmar. [ ] HOW DO YOU DO IT????? I am thinking of trying chelation with ALA for my son, but the one thing that holds me back is HOW I'm going to be able to wake up my 3-yr-old in the night, and get him to DRINK? I don't understand this! I don't mind myself getting up, although I'm sure it isn't the easiest thing weekend after weekend, but I would move mountains to help my son, so my lack of sleep is not what's stopping me. I just don't know if I'll be able to get him to actually drink anything if I CAN wake him up, and then getting him back to sleep could be even worse, because once he's up, he's UP! Any suggestions? Sorry if this is an old and over-asked question .. . ~Diane Mom to Aaren, age 3, ASD --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Diane: It is often a matter of simple operant conditioning. Remember Skinner and Pavlov's dogs? I worried about this also. In the beginning the kid mostly wakes for a few seconds. From the beginning, when I gave the nighttime dose, I turned on her bedrooom side light. The very first two nights, she woke for a few seconds, then turned over and went back to sleep. Now when the light goes on, she sits up automatically with her eyes closed and her mouth open. I did a lot of operant conditioning with rats in graduate school, but this still took me by surprise. Operant conditioning is powerful stuff and can be generalized to other areas with other people when you know how to use it. [ ] HOW DO YOU DO IT????? I am thinking of trying chelation with ALA for my son, but the one thing that holds me back is HOW I'm going to be able to wake up my 3-yr-old in the night, and get him to DRINK? I don't understand this! I don't mind myself getting up, although I'm sure it isn't the easiest thing weekend after weekend, but I would move mountains to help my son, so my lack of sleep is not what's stopping me. I just don't know if I'll be able to get him to actually drink anything if I CAN wake him up, and then getting him back to sleep could be even worse, because once he's up, he's UP! Any suggestions? Sorry if this is an old and over-asked question .. . ~Diane Mom to Aaren, age 3, ASD --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Well, I found that during chelation became very tired, so going back to sleep never seemed to be an issue, nor did waking him, but he is not a sound sleeper to begin with. I would put the capsules in his mouth, he'd take a drink and back to sleep he'd go. I was the one that couldn't fall back to sleep! It won't hurt to try a weekend. Also, I found 3 days on, 11 off was the easiest in terms of sleep and working around school and my work. a -- " lyle and diane vrana " <lv2tch@...> wrote: I am thinking of trying chelation with ALA for my son, but the one thing that holds me back is HOW I'm going to be able to wake up my 3-yr-old in the night, and get him to DRINK? I don't understand this! I don't mind myself getting up, although I'm sure it isn't the easiest thing weekend after weekend, but I would move mountains to help my son, so my lack of sleep is not what's stopping me. I just don't know if I'll be able to get him to actually drink anything if I CAN wake him up, and then getting him back to sleep could be even worse, because once he's up, he's UP! Any suggestions? Sorry if this is an old and over-asked question .. . ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 I would put the capsules in his mouth, he'd take a drink and back to sleep he'd go. This is what I do too. If his mouth is open that's easy and if it isn't I just pull his cheek back quickly and shove the cap in the pocket. I hold a sports bottle with one of those kind of nipple-y ends to his lips and say, " water! " and he sucks some and rolls over. Never opens his eyes or really wakes up. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 In a message dated 5/10/2005 1:06:55 AM Central Daylight Time, AndyCutler@... writes: > > I am thinking of trying chelation with ALA for my son, but the one thing > that holds me back is HOW I'm going to be able to wake up my 3-yr-old in the > night, and get him to DRINK? I thought this would be a problem with my son, but it was an absolute non-issue. I had mixed the ALA into a small spoonful of pear-sauce (baby food) which my son is used to, as I always mix supplements into it. I held him, still sleeping, in a sitting position, put the spoon to his lips so he could just taste it, and he opened his mouth. I gave him the mixture, he swallowed it, and I laid him back down. He never opened his eyes, never woke up. It was truly very, very easy. My son was 5-6 at the time. Perhaps you could give it a dry run, without ALA, tonight, just to see how it goes for you? Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 I mix my son's DMSA in organic cranberry juice concentrate and use a medicine dropper to dose. I just go in and put the dropper to his lips, he reflexively sucks it down without even waking. It's way easier than I imagined. The hardest part is the 3 nights of interrupted sleep and trying to catch up on that. Good luck! Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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