Re: : ALA & chelation clarification

[Guest guest]

> > > Would like some advice following your 4 hour dosing schedule

and

> > ask

> > > what you consider to be the proper use of ALA during DMSA

> chelation?

Hello Kenny V,

You weren't asking me (above), it is to someone else--- but

I wanted to point out this source of info, in case you are

not aware of it:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

It may answer *some* of your questions, and reinforce your

understanding of others.

> And again, just to set me straight ALA must be used along with

DMSA

> for proper chelation with timed doses and MUST NOT BE USED ON THE

> DAYS OFF (REST PERIOD).

>

> Is this correct?

Sorta, kinda.

ALA could also be used by itself.

If you are using DMSA or DMPS, yes, you need to ALSO use ALA

(although some people start with just the DMSA or DMPS).

Correct, ALA also is used for a few days on (3 to 14 days to

be more precise) and then OFF for at least as many days.

ALA is the only one of the 3 (ALA / DMSA / DMPS) which crosses

the blood-brain-barrier and can remove mercury from the brain.

That is why ALA is essential where the other 2 are optional.

The above all relates to mercury detox. If high lead, then

it is a bit different....

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> >

> Sorta, kinda.

> ALA could also be used by itself.

> If you are using DMSA or DMPS, yes, you need to ALSO use ALA

> (although some people start with just the DMSA or DMPS).

> Correct, ALA also is used for a few days on (3 to 14 days to

> be more precise) and then OFF for at least as many days.

>

> ALA is the only one of the 3 (ALA / DMSA / DMPS) which crosses

> the blood-brain-barrier and can remove mercury from the brain.

> That is why ALA is essential where the other 2 are optional.

>

> The above all relates to mercury detox. If high lead, then

> it is a bit different....

>

> good wishes,

> Moria

Moria

Thank you for your input, you are crystal clear in what you

said…..

Seriously thank you.

But you made me think twice in your opening, be careful how you

express it.

It made me think of some of my wives famous expressions that I have

sorta- kinda learned how to interpret after 12 year of marriage. LOL

Here's what I have come up with.

I don't know = NO

Not really = MAYBE

Sorta – Kinda = Possibly some of the time

(That's a double whammy), and I'm still not sure.

Just kidden

Thanks again

Kenny V

[Guest guest]

Moria,

Thanks for the well put clarification.

You've raised a point I wasn't aware of - can you let me know what

are the differences for Lead?

Stuart

>

> > > > Would like some advice following your 4 hour dosing schedule

> and

> > > ask

> > > > what you consider to be the proper use of ALA during DMSA

> > chelation?

>

> Hello Kenny V,

>

> You weren't asking me (above), it is to someone else--- but

> I wanted to point out this source of info, in case you are

> not aware of it:

> http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

> It may answer *some* of your questions, and reinforce your

> understanding of others.

>

>

> > And again, just to set me straight ALA must be used along with

> DMSA

> > for proper chelation with timed doses and MUST NOT BE USED ON THE

> > DAYS OFF (REST PERIOD).

> >

> > Is this correct?

>

> Sorta, kinda.

> ALA could also be used by itself.

> If you are using DMSA or DMPS, yes, you need to ALSO use ALA

> (although some people start with just the DMSA or DMPS).

> Correct, ALA also is used for a few days on (3 to 14 days to

> be more precise) and then OFF for at least as many days.

>

> ALA is the only one of the 3 (ALA / DMSA / DMPS) which crosses

> the blood-brain-barrier and can remove mercury from the brain.

> That is why ALA is essential where the other 2 are optional.

>

> The above all relates to mercury detox. If high lead, then

> it is a bit different....

>

> good wishes,

> Moria

[Guest guest]

>

> > >

> > Sorta, kinda.

> > ALA could also be used by itself.

> > If you are using DMSA or DMPS, yes, you need to ALSO use ALA

> > (although some people start with just the DMSA or DMPS).

> > Correct, ALA also is used for a few days on (3 to 14 days to

> > be more precise) and then OFF for at least as many days.

> >

> > ALA is the only one of the 3 (ALA / DMSA / DMPS) which crosses

> > the blood-brain-barrier and can remove mercury from the brain.

> > That is why ALA is essential where the other 2 are optional.

> >

> > The above all relates to mercury detox. If high lead, then

> > it is a bit different....

> >

> > good wishes,

> > Moria

>

>

>

>

> Moria

> Thank you for your input, you are crystal clear in what you

> said…..

> Seriously thank you.

you're welcome.

> But you made me think twice in your opening, be careful how you

> express it.

>

> It made me think of some of my wives famous expressions that I have

> sorta- kinda learned how to interpret after 12 year of marriage.

LOL

>

> Here's what I have come up with.

>

> I don't know = NO

>

> Not really = MAYBE

>

> Sorta – Kinda = Possibly some of the time

> (That's a double whammy), and I'm still not sure.

Just go back and read your question and my answer and I do think

it will make sense. The part AFTER my " sorta kinda " is the

explanation for what it means. What you asked was something

about um (shoot do I have to go back to the old post now and look?)

um-- something like can you use ala with dmsa/dmps -- The question

indicated that you did not know that it is ala that is required

and the other 2 are optional. Your question, as worded, could

not be either yes or no to me, so I explained my answer.

Hope this makes sense, if not I would suggest that you ask

new questions, and I'd be glad to answer, and we can just

handle it by asking another way and answering the new questions.

Until you have no more.

> Just kidden

OH NOW YOU TELL ME!

> Thanks again

> Kenny V

sure, you're welcome.

Moria

[Guest guest]

>

> Moria,

>

> Thanks for the well put clarification.

>

> You've raised a point I wasn't aware of - can you let me know what

> are the differences for Lead?

>

> Stuart

1. you really need to use DMSA for lead. That is, with mercury

DMSA is " optional " . But with lead it is not optional. In fact

if someone REALLY had ONLY lead (no mercury) they should not

need the ALA, only DMSA. Lots of people have both.

2. you need to keep chelating (with DMSA) for a long time.

Lead leaves especially slowly.

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Thanks Moira,

I was just worried in case it required a change to protocol - should

have been clearer in my question. We've got lead coming out in urine,

so we went for DMSA - I believe we've nailed the exposure as well. I

was thinking 2 - 3 years for treatment, I'm happy to dig in for

longer if that is what it takes.

And as a by the by, we've not been chelating for long, but we are

seeing small improvements. Today I played hide and seek with my son

for the first time. The smile on his face when we found each other is

still with me.

Stuart

> >

> > Moria,

> >

> > Thanks for the well put clarification.

> >

> > You've raised a point I wasn't aware of - can you let me know

what

> > are the differences for Lead?

> >

> > Stuart

>

>

> 1. you really need to use DMSA for lead. That is, with mercury

> DMSA is " optional " . But with lead it is not optional. In fact

> if someone REALLY had ONLY lead (no mercury) they should not

> need the ALA, only DMSA. Lots of people have both.

>

> 2. you need to keep chelating (with DMSA) for a long time.

> Lead leaves especially slowly.

>

> good wishes,

> Moria

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Moria,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the well put clarification.

> > >

> > > You've raised a point I wasn't aware of - can you let me know

> what

> > > are the differences for Lead?

> > >

> > > Stuart

> >

> >

> > 1. you really need to use DMSA for lead. That is, with mercury

> > DMSA is " optional " . But with lead it is not optional. In fact

> > if someone REALLY had ONLY lead (no mercury) they should not

> > need the ALA, only DMSA. Lots of people have both.

> >

> > 2. you need to keep chelating (with DMSA) for a long time.

> > Lead leaves especially slowly.

> >

> > good wishes,

> > Moria