Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right before collect the first morning urine. He usually doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know what he recommends????????????????????? Thanks in advance andSteve B you can email me on list or privately __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 If you actually want your kid to get better you give TD DMPS every 8 hours or not at all. Challenge tests are not informative, but testing isn't what makes the kids get better, proper use of chelators is. Proper use of DMPS is to give it every 8 hours or more often. This is a fundamental chemical property of DMPS and is not changed by route of adminsitration or strongly held views espoused by important doctors. Andy...... > I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of > tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do > give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right > before collect the first morning urine. He usually > doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) > Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know > what he recommends????????????????????? > > Thanks in advance > > andSteve B > > you can email me on list or privately > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Usman recommends once every other day. >>> AndyCutler@... 8/19/2005 2:52:49 PM >>> If you actually want your kid to get better you give TD DMPS every 8 hours or not at all. Challenge tests are not informative, but testing isn't what makes the kids get better, proper use of chelators is. Proper use of DMPS is to give it every 8 hours or more often. This is a fundamental chemical property of DMPS and is not changed by route of adminsitration or strongly held views espoused by important doctors. Andy...... > I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of > tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do > give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right > before collect the first morning urine. He usually > doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) > Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know > what he recommends????????????????????? > > Thanks in advance > > andSteve B > > you can email me on list or privately > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 What is the challenge dose and how much does your son weigh? I suspect you have read about the high risk of redistribution of toxins from high doses. If not, please do so. S S <tt> I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of<BR> tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do<BR> give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right<BR> before collect the first morning urine. He usually<BR> doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine)<BR> Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know<BR> what he recommends????????????????????? <BR> <BR> Thanks in advance <BR> <BR> andSteve B<BR> <BR> you can email me on list or privately<BR> <BR> __________________________________________________<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Andy, Help! If TD-DMPS is best applied every 8 hours or less, then what is the optimal dosage? Is it current dosage divided by 3( assuming 8 hours ) or some other method? What is the schedule to support the more frequent TD-DMPS dosage? Is it 3 days on and 11 days off, similar to what we were doing when we were on DMSA? We were on DMSA/ALA ( 3 days on 11 days off, 3 hour during day and 4 hour application interval at night ) for one year. We moved to TD- DMPS and have had more success in regards to metal excretion based on hair and fecal tests. We are currently on TD-DMPS, one day on and one day off - single dose. Thanks, Ralph > Usman recommends once every other day. > >>> AndyCutler@a... 8/19/2005 2:52:49 PM >>> > If you actually want your kid to get better you give TD DMPS every 8 > hours or not at all. > > Challenge tests are not informative, but testing isn't what makes the > kids get better, proper use of chelators is. Proper use of DMPS is to > give it every 8 hours or more often. This is a fundamental chemical > property of DMPS and is not changed by route of adminsitration or > strongly held views espoused by important doctors. > > Andy...... > > > > I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of > > tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do > > give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right > > before collect the first morning urine. He usually > > doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) > > Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know > > what he recommends????????????????????? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > andSteve B > > > > you can email me on list or privately > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Actually Dr Usman is flexible based on the child. She does use Buttar's protocal for many, but we see her and are on Andy's. I know many others are, as well. With Usman, you have a choice. Diane <diane.martin@...> wrote:Usman recommends once every other day. >>> AndyCutler@... 8/19/2005 2:52:49 PM >>> If you actually want your kid to get better you give TD DMPS every 8 hours or not at all. Challenge tests are not informative, but testing isn't what makes the kids get better, proper use of chelators is. Proper use of DMPS is to give it every 8 hours or more often. This is a fundamental chemical property of DMPS and is not changed by route of adminsitration or strongly held views espoused by important doctors. Andy...... > I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of > tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do > give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right > before collect the first morning urine. He usually > doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) > Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know > what he recommends????????????????????? > > Thanks in advance > > andSteve B > > you can email me on list or privately > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 > > Usman recommends once every other day. > > >>> AndyCutler@a... 8/19/2005 2:52:49 PM >>> > > If you actually want your kid to get better you give TD DMPS every > 8 > > hours or not at all. > > > > Challenge tests are not informative, but testing isn't what makes > the > > kids get better, proper use of chelators is. Proper use of DMPS > is to > > give it every 8 hours or more often. This is a fundamental > chemical > > property of DMPS and is not changed by route of adminsitration or > > strongly held views espoused by important doctors. > > > > Andy...... > > > > > > > I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of > > > tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do > > > give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right > > > before collect the first morning urine. He usually > > > doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) > > > Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know > > > what he recommends????????????????????? > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > andSteve B > > > > > > you can email me on list or privately > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 now I am confused.. my son is 8 mos. td dmps and is also dumping more mercury in stool than urine.. -- In , " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@a...> wrote: > > > > Usman recommends once every other day. > > > >>> AndyCutler@a... 8/19/2005 2:52:49 PM >>> > > > If you actually want your kid to get better you give TD DMPS every > > 8 > > > hours or not at all. > > > > > > Challenge tests are not informative, but testing isn't what makes > > the > > > kids get better, proper use of chelators is. Proper use of DMPS > > is to > > > give it every 8 hours or more often. This is a fundamental > > chemical > > > property of DMPS and is not changed by route of adminsitration or > > > strongly held views espoused by important doctors. > > > > > > Andy...... > > > > > > > > > > I am planning on giving my son the challenge dose of > > > > tddmps for our third month on it. The question is do > > > > give it at bedtime(which is the usual time) or right > > > > before collect the first morning urine. He usually > > > > doesnot urinate during the night. (12 hour urine) > > > > Is there anyone out there who uses dr. buttar and know > > > > what he recommends????????????????????? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > andSteve B > > > > > > > > you can email me on list or privately > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 I dunno if this is the case, but perhaps some " free mercury " is getting picked up by the liver? Debi -- In , " McDermott " <jtmcde@s...> wrote: > now I am confused.. my son is 8 mos. td dmps and is also dumping more > mercury in stool than urine.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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