Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

[Guest guest]

[ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I have been using

the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for several other

parents with similarly affected children) and have noted outstanding

results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary damage/central

hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine stimulation

IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl B12 injections,

his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric colleagues as

" Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we all?

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

[Guest guest]

Well Hi Alan,

Thanks for the nice feedback...it was a labor of love and behind it is coming

The Science of the Pure...and then gluathione....Normally I reference my

writings extensively, in the hard core medical areas, but this kind of broke out

on a different level or basic concept of putting the skin on center stage. Not

sure if anyone has quite done that, not anyone I have seen at least. So I used

stuff from all over the place but not from any book.

My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary damage/central

hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine stimulation

IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months.

So glad for you and I would like to include this in the final version of the

essay when it goes in my book called Ecstacy of Deliverance. Great name I think

for the feeling for both doctors and patients when we and they recover a kid

completely, or even in great part, from the depths of despair of mercury

poisoning...............and all that comes with it....

When I added methyl B12 injections,

his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric colleagues as

" Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

Yes, this is important and I have a trick up my sleeve in this regard. Let me be

mysterious here for a while until I can write in depth about this.

He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we all?

Yes we all is a key word here. When we cannot see the truth of this to me

it means we have not really seen the danger that we are all in and the danger

that our kids have passed through or fallen into. Its like a dentist who still

uses dental amalgam or removes it from patients but still uses it. He will not

have his consciousness on the real danger since he is dismissing the danger. We

are all in danger of mercury and a army of chemicals that just make its effect

more toxic.

Dr. , its pleased to meet you. Here in Brazil we would call you Dr. Alan!

Its kind of informal here unless you cross the medical authorities or threaten

their monopoly. Here they do not even know I am here since I write in English

only.

So please would like to hear anything and everything from you or about your

patients and the success they are having with the sauna.

Best Regards,

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

Director International Medical Veritas Association

http://www.imva.info

http://www.worldpsychology.net

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I'll keep you posted. My wife's website (http://www.NoMercury.org

<http://www.nomercury.org/> ) might be a good source if you need some of the

full text toxicology papers in the science section. I believe we have the

full text of the National Geographic piece of sweat therapy used in the

cinnabar mine workers as well (circa 1976).

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

_____

From: Mark Sircus Ac., OMD [mailto:director@...]

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

Well Hi Alan,

Thanks for the nice feedback...it was a labor of love and behind it is

coming The Science of the Pure...and then gluathione....Normally I reference

my writings extensively, in the hard core medical areas, but this kind of

broke out on a different level or basic concept of putting the skin on

center stage. Not sure if anyone has quite done that, not anyone I have seen

at least. So I used stuff from all over the place but not from any book.

My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary damage/central

hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine stimulation

IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months.

So glad for you and I would like to include this in the final version of the

essay when it goes in my book called Ecstacy of Deliverance. Great name I

think for the feeling for both doctors and patients when we and they recover

a kid completely, or even in great part, from the depths of despair of

mercury poisoning...............and all that comes with it....

When I added methyl B12 injections,

his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric colleagues as

" Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

Yes, this is important and I have a trick up my sleeve in this regard. Let

me be mysterious here for a while until I can write in depth about this.

He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we all?

Yes we all is a key word here. When we cannot see the truth of this to

me it means we have not really seen the danger that we are all in and the

danger that our kids have passed through or fallen into. Its like a dentist

who still uses dental amalgam or removes it from patients but still uses it.

He will not have his consciousness on the real danger since he is dismissing

the danger. We are all in danger of mercury and a army of chemicals that

just make its effect more toxic.

Dr. , its pleased to meet you. Here in Brazil we would call you Dr.

Alan! Its kind of informal here unless you cross the medical authorities or

threaten their monopoly. Here they do not even know I am here since I write

in English only.

So please would like to hear anything and everything from you or about your

patients and the success they are having with the sauna.

Best Regards,

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

Director International Medical Veritas Association

http://www.imva.info

http://www.worldpsychology.net

[Guest guest]

Alan, how often did you use the sauna and how long were the

sessions? Did you use a home model? Do you believe home models are

effecctive?

Steve

>

>

> [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

>

> Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I have

been using

> the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for several

other

> parents with similarly affected children) and have noted

outstanding

> results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary damage/central

> hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine

stimulation

> IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl B12

injections,

> his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric

colleagues as

> " Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

>

> He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we

all?

>

> Alan , M.D.

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

> Eddie Rickenbacker

[Guest guest]

I just got out of a 60 min session at 140 degrees. My son does 45 min at

120. We have a 3 person model from High Tech Health

(http://www.HighTechHealth.com <http://www.hightechhealth.com/> ). The 2

person model is good too. We bought the 2 person model for my wife's parents

last year and use it when we visit them. Both units took 30 min and no

tools to set up. Start the unit cold (sitting inside) for 30 min at 110 (or

less) until you become accustomed to it.build up as tolerated slowly if you

like.

A good book for reference is Detoxify or Die by Sherry , M.D available

at http://www.PrestigePublishing.com <http://www.prestigepublishing.com/> .

I keep 3 or 4 copies to give to (toxic/ill) friends when needed.

Alan

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

_____

From: steve_rotherham [mailto:steve.rotherham@...]

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:16 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

Alan, how often did you use the sauna and how long were the

sessions? Did you use a home model? Do you believe home models are

effecctive?

Steve

>

>

> [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

>

> Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I have

been using

> the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for several

other

> parents with similarly affected children) and have noted

outstanding

> results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary damage/central

> hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine

stimulation

> IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl B12

injections,

> his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric

colleagues as

> " Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

>

> He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we

all?

>

> Alan , M.D.

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

> Eddie Rickenbacker

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Is there any risk of re-uptake via the lungs? Klinghardt seems to

believe this is the case.

Steve

> >

> >

> > [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

> >

> > Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I have

> been using

> > the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for

several

> other

> > parents with similarly affected children) and have noted

> outstanding

> > results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary

damage/central

> > hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine

> stimulation

> > IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl B12

> injections,

> > his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric

> colleagues as

> > " Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

> >

> > He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we

> all?

> >

> > Alan , M.D.

> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

> courage unless

> > you're scared. "

> > Eddie Rickenbacker

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

From vapor pressure of the sweat? That would be a scientific stretch. Some

toxin might be reabsorbed on the skin but keeping the sweat toweled off

periodically is theoretically effective. I have over 30 scientific

references on this therapy and studied it for 6 months before using it. My

friends (one with MS and one with ALS) that I have introduced to the sauna

are also highly encouraged to have their amalgams removed from a

mercury-free dentist. There is good evidence that the mercury (from all

sources) may be the inducer of both of those disorders.

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

_____

From: steve_rotherham [mailto:steve.rotherham@...]

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

Is there any risk of re-uptake via the lungs? Klinghardt seems to

believe this is the case.

Steve

> >

> >

> > [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

> >

> > Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I have

> been using

> > the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for

several

> other

> > parents with similarly affected children) and have noted

> outstanding

> > results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary

damage/central

> > hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine

> stimulation

> > IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl B12

> injections,

> > his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric

> colleagues as

> > " Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

> >

> > He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't we

> all?

> >

> > Alan , M.D.

> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

> courage unless

> > you're scared. "

> > Eddie Rickenbacker

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alan. Do you have any references re measurable declines in

mercury and other metals in patients using this therapy?

Steve

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the

Skin

> > >

> > > Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I

have

> > been using

> > > the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for

> several

> > other

> > > parents with similarly affected children) and have noted

> > outstanding

> > > results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary

> damage/central

> > > hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine

> > stimulation

> > > IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl

B12

> > injections,

> > > his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric

> > colleagues as

> > > " Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

> > >

> > > He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't

we

> > all?

> > >

> > > Alan , M.D.

> > > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

> > courage unless

> > > you're scared. "

> > > Eddie Rickenbacker

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

http://www.hightechhealth.com/sauna_pdfs/mercury.pdf is a good study on

sweat therapy in general. Infrared allows improved toxic depuration over

simple heat (molecular " dance " between water and toxin - I call it a motion

bond). Hopefully, we will one day soon have large clinical trials on

depuration therapy (and toxin removal) in autistic children. I am trying to

propose just such a study in Springfield, MO at a major behavioral center

there.

Dr. Rea at the Environmental Health Center in Dallas has been using regular

heat and far infrared therapy for years and has presented an substantial

amount of clinical outcome results at the annual meetings of the American

Academy of Environmental Medicine. I joined AAEM last summer and was able to

make all of the lectures at the annual meeting last October. By then, I had

already been using the sauna for 5 months.

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

_____

From: steve_rotherham [mailto:steve.rotherham@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:16 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

Thanks Alan. Do you have any references re measurable declines in

mercury and other metals in patients using this therapy?

Steve

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] IMVA - Detoxification through the

Skin

> > >

> > > Well written chapter, Mark. What textbook is the source? I

have

> > been using

> > > the far infrared sauna for my son (and recommended it for

> several

> > other

> > > parents with similarly affected children) and have noted

> > outstanding

> > > results. My son's " endocrine disruption " (pituitary

> damage/central

> > > hypothyroidism) from mercury toxicity (measured by IV arginine

> > stimulation

> > > IGF-1 and HGH) resolved within 2 months. When I added methyl

B12

> > injections,

> > > his neurodevelopmental disorder (misnamed by my psychiatric

> > colleagues as

> > > " Asperger's syndrome " ) has essentially resolved.

> > >

> > > He'll need the FIR sauna for the rest of his life...but don't

we

> > all?

> > >

> > > Alan , M.D.

> > > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

> > courage unless

> > > you're scared. "

> > > Eddie Rickenbacker

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

I apologize if this has come through already--I tried to reply

earlier but it didn't show up on my end.

I just wanted to quickly ask if you use the sauna is In ADDITION to

chelation or INSTEAD of chelation? We haven't gotten up the nerve

to do chelation yet but we would do saunas with no problem. Would

there be any benefit in doing them alone?

Thanks very much. in NC

> I just got out of a 60 min session at 140 degrees. My son does 45

min at

> 120. We have a 3 person model from High Tech Health

> (http://www.HighTechHealth.com

<http://www.hightechhealth.com/> ). The 2

> person model is good too. We bought the 2 person model for my

wife's parents

> last year and use it when we visit them. Both units took 30 min

and no

> tools to set up. Start the unit cold (sitting inside) for 30 min

at 110 (or

> less) until you become accustomed to it.build up as tolerated

slowly if you

> like.

>

>

>

> A good book for reference is Detoxify or Die by Sherry , M.D

available

> at http://www.PrestigePublishing.com

<http://www.prestigepublishing.com/> .

> I keep 3 or 4 copies to give to (toxic/ill) friends when needed.

>

>

>

> Alan

>

>

>

>

>

> Alan , M.D.

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

> Eddie Rickenbacker

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have nothing against chelation but we elected to do only sauna depuration

and have not regretted that decision.

Chelation will rid the body of a variety of heavy metals but the sauna adds

removal of literally thousands of other xenobiotics (environmental toxins)

that are too numerous to list. These xenobiotics will eventually " gum up

the works " of essential biochemical/cellular functions and cause just about

any disease you want to name. Drink from styrofoam - get dioxin; drink from

plastic bottles - get phalates; eat raisins - get fluorinated pesticides,

etc., etc. My colleagues and their pharmaceutical friends will supply all

the " drugs " needed to try to cover up the symptoms from these xenobiotics

but the disease process goes on - until eventually..

..well, to quote Webster in his 17th century work *The Duchess of

Malfi*: _Oh, Death has ten thousand several doors for men to take their

exits_.

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

_____

From: ejenningsbigfoot [mailto:ejennings@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:46 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

I apologize if this has come through already--I tried to reply

earlier but it didn't show up on my end.

I just wanted to quickly ask if you use the sauna is In ADDITION to

chelation or INSTEAD of chelation? We haven't gotten up the nerve

to do chelation yet but we would do saunas with no problem. Would

there be any benefit in doing them alone?

Thanks very much. in NC

> I just got out of a 60 min session at 140 degrees. My son does 45

min at

> 120. We have a 3 person model from High Tech Health

> (http://www.HighTechHealth.com

<http://www.hightechhealth.com/> ). The 2

> person model is good too. We bought the 2 person model for my

wife's parents

> last year and use it when we visit them. Both units took 30 min

and no

> tools to set up. Start the unit cold (sitting inside) for 30 min

at 110 (or

> less) until you become accustomed to it.build up as tolerated

slowly if you

> like.

>

>

>

> A good book for reference is Detoxify or Die by Sherry , M.D

available

> at http://www.PrestigePublishing.com

<http://www.prestigepublishing.com/> .

> I keep 3 or 4 copies to give to (toxic/ill) friends when needed.

>

>

>

> Alan

>

>

>

>

>

> Alan , M.D.

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

> Eddie Rickenbacker

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

I hope its ok to just keep on quoting you Dr. . It certainly is my

pleasure!

Mark

[ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

I apologize if this has come through already--I tried to reply

earlier but it didn't show up on my end.

I just wanted to quickly ask if you use the sauna is In ADDITION to

chelation or INSTEAD of chelation? We haven't gotten up the nerve

to do chelation yet but we would do saunas with no problem. Would

there be any benefit in doing them alone?

Thanks very much. in NC

> I just got out of a 60 min session at 140 degrees. My son does 45

min at

> 120. We have a 3 person model from High Tech Health

> (http://www.HighTechHealth.com

<http://www.hightechhealth.com/> ). The 2

> person model is good too. We bought the 2 person model for my

wife's parents

> last year and use it when we visit them. Both units took 30 min

and no

> tools to set up. Start the unit cold (sitting inside) for 30 min

at 110 (or

> less) until you become accustomed to it.build up as tolerated

slowly if you

> like.

>

>

>

> A good book for reference is Detoxify or Die by Sherry , M.D

available

> at http://www.PrestigePublishing.com

<http://www.prestigepublishing.com/> .

> I keep 3 or 4 copies to give to (toxic/ill) friends when needed.

>

>

>

> Alan

>

>

>

>

>

> Alan , M.D.

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

> Eddie Rickenbacker

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Glad to provide words.but I'm just peeking over the shoulders of giants.

AC

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

_____

From: Mark Sircus Ac., OMD [mailto:director@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

I hope its ok to just keep on quoting you Dr. . It certainly is my

pleasure!

Mark

[ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

I apologize if this has come through already--I tried to reply

earlier but it didn't show up on my end.

I just wanted to quickly ask if you use the sauna is In ADDITION to

chelation or INSTEAD of chelation? We haven't gotten up the nerve

to do chelation yet but we would do saunas with no problem. Would

there be any benefit in doing them alone?

Thanks very much. in NC

> I just got out of a 60 min session at 140 degrees. My son does 45

min at

> 120. We have a 3 person model from High Tech Health

> (http://www.HighTechHealth.com

<http://www.hightechhealth.com/> ). The 2

> person model is good too. We bought the 2 person model for my

wife's parents

> last year and use it when we visit them. Both units took 30 min

and no

> tools to set up. Start the unit cold (sitting inside) for 30 min

at 110 (or

> less) until you become accustomed to it.build up as tolerated

slowly if you

> like.

>

>

>

> A good book for reference is Detoxify or Die by Sherry , M.D

available

> at http://www.PrestigePublishing.com

<http://www.prestigepublishing.com/> .

> I keep 3 or 4 copies to give to (toxic/ill) friends when needed.

>

>

>

> Alan

>

>

>

>

>

> Alan , M.D.

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

> Eddie Rickenbacker

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to quickly ask if you use the sauna is In ADDITION to

chelation or INSTEAD of chelation? We haven't gotten up the nerve

to do chelation yet but we would do saunas with no problem. Would

there be any benefit in doing them alone?

we just read Dr. s response and I just got this in from Dr.

Buttar..who said.... " infrared sauna is excellent...won't reverese autism but if

used in conjunction with TD-DMPS, will accelerate detox. " Also very good for

the persistent organic pollutants........its really hard to argue with his

success....in his first trial study group he is reaching toward full reversal of

almost 70 percent of his kids. I think each child is a special and unique case

and some kids, like Dr. s son responded fully with the help of B-12. Others

might not so will need to go further with a drug that will reach powerfully into

the cells to pull the mercury out.

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

Director International Medical Veritas Association

http://www.imva.info

http://www.worldpsychology.net

[Guest guest]

> I have nothing against chelation but we elected to do only sauna

depuration

> and have not regretted that decision.

>

> Chelation will rid the body of a variety of heavy metals but the

sauna adds

> removal of literally thousands of other xenobiotics (environmental

toxins)

> that are too numerous to list.

I read the information about the sauna, It says it will remove

mercury. I know when ever I use a sauna I feel good afterwards.

Never knew I was being detoxed!

My son does not sweat, do you know if the sauna would be bad for

him? Id really like to try this, I fell this would be the safest way

to chelate him.

Thanks,

Donna

[Guest guest]

Donna:

Before we started the sauna therapy 6 months ago, my son could not

sweat either. When we started, we began at a very low temp., and a

small amount of time. Then we built from there. He started to

sweat after only 4 of these sessions. I was ecstatic - never

thought I'd see that day. Mind you - it is not dripping sweat yet -

even 6 months later - but he is sweating on his head, lots of beads

on his nose, and very " damp " on his back.

-

> > I have nothing against chelation but we elected to do only sauna

> depuration

> > and have not regretted that decision.

> >

> > Chelation will rid the body of a variety of heavy metals but the

> sauna adds

> > removal of literally thousands of other xenobiotics

(environmental

> toxins)

> > that are too numerous to list.

>

>

>

>

> I read the information about the sauna, It says it will remove

> mercury. I know when ever I use a sauna I feel good afterwards.

> Never knew I was being detoxed!

>

> My son does not sweat, do you know if the sauna would be bad for

> him? Id really like to try this, I fell this would be the safest

way

> to chelate him.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Donna

[Guest guest]

_______________________________________

From: Donna [mailto:donna.arnold@...]

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

> I have nothing against chelation but we elected to do only sauna

depuration

> and have not regretted that decision.

Snip

I read the information about the sauna, It says it will remove

mercury. I know when ever I use a sauna I feel good afterwards.

Never knew I was being detoxed!

My son does not sweat, do you know if the sauna would be bad for

him? Id really like to try this, I fell this would be the safest way

to chelate him.

Thanks,

Donna

Donna,

Most of the children and adults who I have helped start this don't sweat for

the first few weeks. That is part of the pesticide exposure that we all have

(and perhaps other toxins). Slow increments in time and temp over a 3 month

period will usually start a normal sweating as the toxins are released (and

they are released even w/o visible sweat). Dr. , for example, was so

heavily exposed to farm pesticides in her youth that it took her months

before she was able to sweat in her own sauna (personal communication).

Alan , M.D.

[Guest guest]

>

> Donna:

>

> Before we started the sauna therapy 6 months ago, my son could not

> sweat either. When we started, we began at a very low temp., and

a

> small amount of time. Then we built from there. He started to

> sweat after only 4 of these sessions. I was ecstatic - never

> thought I'd see that day. Mind you - it is not dripping sweat

yet -

> even 6 months later - but he is sweating on his head, lots of

beads

> on his nose, and very " damp " on his back.

>

> -

,

I got tears in my eyes when you said you were ecstatic from seeing

your child sweat. My son was four years old the first time he had

tears, I felt the same way!

When you start off in the sauna, How many times a week? You have

been doing this for 6 months have you seen improvement?

I guess knowing your own child you would be able to determine how

long to stay in there.

Thanks so much for sharing this with me.

Donna

[Guest guest]

> Donna,

>

> Most of the children and adults who I have helped start this don't

sweat for

> the first few weeks. That is part of the pesticide exposure that

we all have

> (and perhaps other toxins). Slow increments in time and temp over

a 3 month

> period will usually start a normal sweating as the toxins are

released (and

> they are released even w/o visible sweat). Dr. , for

example, was so

> heavily exposed to farm pesticides in her youth that it took her

months

> before she was able to sweat in her own sauna (personal

communication).

>

> Alan , M.D.

Thanks so much for sharing this. Sure does give me some hope!!

Donna

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> ,

>

> I got tears in my eyes when you said you were ecstatic from

seeing

> your child sweat. My son was four years old the first time he had

> tears, I felt the same way!

>

> When you start off in the sauna, How many times a week? You have

> been doing this for 6 months have you seen improvement?

>

> I guess knowing your own child you would be able to determine how

> long to stay in there.

>

> Thanks so much for sharing this with me.

>

>

> Donna

Donna:

We started out only 3 days a week. Now we do at least 3 times

sometimes 4 a week. My son also has multiple chemical

sensitivities - so having the sauna is a God-send for him! From

Sept through Dec we were doing the sauna at a practitioners - I

bought one at the end of Dec. Her office was closed for a week in

mid Dec. and my son didn't have the benefit of it. Well - by the

fourth day - he hit the wall! We noticed this happened during

Thanksgiving also when the office was closed. Same bad behaviors by

the fourth day. So we bought one for ourselves and it has been

worth every penny. I remember when we had our first consultation

thinking I will NEVER get my non-sweating child to stay in there -

but by the third or fourth session - he went in there with no

problems at all. He knows it makes him feel better. He has

definitely improved - no more rage moments, no more smacking his

head, no more migrainy look on his face. He's also gained a total

of 6 lbs since starting - when he hadn't gained any weight in 2

years.

hope this helps!

[Guest guest]

Am going to ask a very basic, dumb question,...Wouldn't sweating

from working outside, exercise do the same thing as a sauna or ? Am

probably way off track, but just wondering. Rose

>

[Guest guest]

So what do you do with the towels you wipe yourself off with afterwords?

Wash them in the washing machine???

Just curious!

Barb

[ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

>

>

>

>> I have nothing against chelation but we elected to do only sauna

> depuration

>> and have not regretted that decision.

> Snip

>

>

> I read the information about the sauna, It says it will remove

> mercury. I know when ever I use a sauna I feel good afterwards.

> Never knew I was being detoxed!

>

> My son does not sweat, do you know if the sauna would be bad for

> him? Id really like to try this, I fell this would be the safest way

> to chelate him.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Donna

>

>

> Donna,

>

> Most of the children and adults who I have helped start this don't sweat

> for

> the first few weeks. That is part of the pesticide exposure that we all

> have

> (and perhaps other toxins). Slow increments in time and temp over a 3

> month

> period will usually start a normal sweating as the toxins are released

> (and

> they are released even w/o visible sweat). Dr. , for example, was

> so

> heavily exposed to farm pesticides in her youth that it took her months

> before she was able to sweat in her own sauna (personal communication).

>

> Alan , M.D.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't sweating

from working outside, exercise do the same thing as a sauna or ? Am

probably way off track, but just wondering. Rose

No Rose I do not think it so off track. Personally I have always wondered at my

capacity to sweat so much and so easily and after all these years I see that

this is probably in part what has helped me maintain excellent health. So it is

the sweat that is the heart of the matter not the technique or technology that

provokes it though it does seem that saunas offer some special and intense

benefits for those in need of serious detoxification.

Mark

[Guest guest]

Exercise sweat does secrete some toxins. The infrared technology works

somewhat better due to the molecular vibration of the toxin and the

surrounding water from the far infrared spectrum. Do not confuse far

infrared with microwave radiation. Far infrared is safe. Place your hands

about 1/4 inch apart (palms together). Feel the warmth? That's your own far

infrared emissions. When you feel warmth from the sun, that is far infrared

radiation. No ultraviolet rays are in the sauna. The far infrared also

increases your endothelial nitric oxide synthase by 50 percent, increasing

available health nitric oxide which provides blood vessel health

(vasodilatation, endothelial repair). That study was done on guinea pig

aortas, but it stands to reason that humans would have the same effect. I

have a lot of references for anyone wanting them, just email me directly.

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

________________________________________

From: fancy1413 [mailto:fancy1413@...]

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:19 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

Am going to ask a very basic, dumb question,...Wouldn't sweating

from working outside, exercise do the same thing as a sauna or ?  Am

probably way off track, but just wondering. Rose

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

We wash them on the sanitary cycle on our High Efficiency washer, but any

good detergent cycle should work fine.

Alan , M.D.

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker

________________________________________

From: jromkema [mailto:jromkema@...]

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

So what do you do with the towels you wipe yourself off with afterwords?

Wash them in the washing machine???

Just curious!

Barb

[ ] Re: IMVA - Detoxification through the Skin

>

>

>

>> I have nothing against chelation but we elected to do only sauna

> depuration

>> and have not regretted that decision.

> Snip

>

>

> I read the information about the sauna, It says it will remove

> mercury. I know when ever I use a sauna I feel good afterwards.

> Never knew I was being detoxed!

>

> My son does not sweat, do you know if the sauna would be bad for

> him? Id really like to try this, I fell this would be the safest way

> to chelate him.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Donna

>

>

> Donna,

>

> Most of the children and adults who I have helped start this don't sweat

> for

> the first few weeks. That is part of the pesticide exposure that we all

> have

> (and perhaps other toxins). Slow increments in time and temp over a 3

> month

> period will usually start a normal sweating as the toxins are released

> (and

> they are released even w/o visible sweat).  Dr. , for example, was

> so

> heavily exposed to farm pesticides in her youth that it took her months

> before she was able to sweat in her own sauna (personal communication).

>

> Alan , M.D.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>