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Hi Charlotte,

There is alot of info out there about the zeno estrogens in the water

and everywhere else that is effecting alot of our health. It is like the

whole population being on birth control!The effects are more obvious in

men because of the sterility problem. The product I use for myself and

family is called Plus. It has really helped us, in conjunction with

other supplements we take. It is made from Wild Yam Root, l-Glutamic

Acid, Glycine,L-lysine,L-Arginine,Beta Sitosterol, and has some plant

sugars 2.5 mg. It feeds the whole endocrine system and the hormones

become balanced naturally. My husband prostrate problems went away, my

hot flashes and major peri-menopause symptoms are gone, daughters period

are regular and no more cramps, and sons mood improved greatly. All of

us that needed to loose belly fat, did, without any diet changes. It

cannot hurt him and may help him. Link to product site is

www.gothealth.myglycostore.com

designs wrote:

> , one would figure that there is some connection with the

> hypothalamic problems and the other issues but according to almost 2

> years of research, this is not the case with isolated GnRh deficiency.

> All of his other hypothalamic and pituitary tests are normal, all

> genetic testing is normal. There does not seem to be any more of a

> trend of cognitive issues among those with his condition and the general

> population. I have spoken to people all over the world with this

> disorder, some as old as 76 and some parents of children as young as 1.

> There does seem to be an increasing trend in general endocrine

> disruption in infants as well as food allergies that never seemed to

> exist when we were kids. had a renal ultrasound because some kids

> with KS have unilateral renal agenesis but instead of missing a kidney

> my son actually has EXTRA parts on his right kidney!

>

> However, the ASD has reeked some havoc in his current hormone

> replacement therapy, he is extremely emotionally sensitive to any

> changes in hormone levels. Most children with this genetic issue would

> be able to take his dose of testosterone without any noticeable

> behavioral or emotional reaction, however, my son needs smaller doses

> more spread out or ALL his AS issues get noticeably worse during both

> the peaks and declines of serum t levels. This fascinated the

> endocrinologist in Boston who is one of the leaders in Kallmann's

> research in the country. I don't think he had ever treated a child with

> both disorders so it was a new treatment angle.

>

> Anyway, I would love any nutritional intervention suggestions or

> recommendations you have, I am willing to try anything at this point!

> Thanks!

>

> -Charlotte

> Re: [ ] weight question

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Charlotte,

> > >

> > >

> > > Even though your son may not eat junk food, there are many food

> > that can

> > > cause weight gain. Breads, pasta,rice potatoes, also some

> fruits are

> > > high glycemic, like watermelon and other tropical fruits, should

> > only be

> > > in moderation or none at all if needing to lose weight. Also what

> > about

> > > his bowel habtis, is he going regular, he might need probiotics,

> > enzymes

> > > to keep things moving good. My daughter has a tendency to gain

> weight

> > > because she is a carboholic, and she also skips meals, this is

> the

> > worst

> > > if you are to heavy. Small meals and lots of them. Just some

> > ideas,

> > >

> > > designs wrote:

> > > > I was wondering if heavy metal build up can cause

> unexplained weight

> > > > gain? My son who had no family pre-disposition to weight

> gain, and

> > > eats

> > > > no junk foods at all, started gaining weight at 7 and has not

> > stopped.

> > > > At 7 years old he weighed 51lbs which was right on the average

> > line and

> > > > now at 11 he has more than doubled that at 120. He has always

> > had some

> > > > gastrointestinal issues and the weight is primarlily in his

> > belly. I

> > > > have had his thyroid tested and had diabetic testing done, all

> > results

> > > > were normal. He complains about his stomach hurting and

> none of the

> > > > doctors will listen to me that this is not " normal " for

> him. I am

> > > > starting to think I should take him to a gastroenteroloist but

> > the poor

> > > > kid already has so many doctors. Any input would be

> appreciated.

> > > > -Charlotte

> > > >

> > > >

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Dana, he gets 250mg a day, do you think that's too low? What dose would you

recommend at 120lbs? I will check out your link, thanks!

-Charlotte

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> Good question. Every time he is in the bathroom it is at LEAST a

half hour production and always has been, leading me to believe that

he has " issues " when he is in there.

In my family, this would mean constipation. You can consider

increasing his magnesium, this works for us. Other constipation ideas

here

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

Dana

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, would he have to take it 3 times a day? and can it be dumped into other

food? He can't and won't swallow a pill,

-Charlotte

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> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Charlotte,

> > >

> > >

> > > Even though your son may not eat junk food, there are many food

> > that can

> > > cause weight gain. Breads, pasta,rice potatoes, also some

> fruits are

> > > high glycemic, like watermelon and other tropical fruits, should

> > only be

> > > in moderation or none at all if needing to lose weight. Also what

> > about

> > > his bowel habtis, is he going regular, he might need probiotics,

> > enzymes

> > > to keep things moving good. My daughter has a tendency to gain

> weight

> > > because she is a carboholic, and she also skips meals, this is

> the

> > worst

> > > if you are to heavy. Small meals and lots of them. Just some

> > ideas,

> > >

> > > designs wrote:

> > > > I was wondering if heavy metal build up can cause

> unexplained weight

> > > > gain? My son who had no family pre-disposition to weight

> gain, and

> > > eats

> > > > no junk foods at all, started gaining weight at 7 and has not

> > stopped.

> > > > At 7 years old he weighed 51lbs which was right on the average

> > line and

> > > > now at 11 he has more than doubled that at 120. He has always

> > had some

> > > > gastrointestinal issues and the weight is primarlily in his

> > belly. I

> > > > have had his thyroid tested and had diabetic testing done, all

> > results

> > > > were normal. He complains about his stomach hurting and

> none of the

> > > > doctors will listen to me that this is not " normal " for

> him. I am

> > > > starting to think I should take him to a gastroenteroloist but

> > the poor

> > > > kid already has so many doctors. Any input would be

> appreciated.

> > > > -Charlotte

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Charlotte,

I take mine just morning and nite, so for you child 2 in am and 1 in

p.m. is fine. ALso they can be crushed and put into food or liquid, they

crush very easily since they are not encased in anything syntehtic. I

will send the complete products description to your private email for

you to view.

designs wrote:

> , would he have to take it 3 times a day? and can it be dumped into

> other food? He can't and won't swallow a pill,

> -Charlotte

> Re: [ ] weight question

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Charlotte,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Even though your son may not eat junk food, there are many

> food

> > > that can

> > > > cause weight gain. Breads, pasta,rice potatoes, also some

> > fruits are

> > > > high glycemic, like watermelon and other tropical fruits,

> should

> > > only be

> > > > in moderation or none at all if needing to lose weight.

> Also what

> > > about

> > > > his bowel habtis, is he going regular, he might need

> probiotics,

> > > enzymes

> > > > to keep things moving good. My daughter has a tendency to

> gain

> > weight

> > > > because she is a carboholic, and she also skips meals,

> this is

> > the

> > > worst

> > > > if you are to heavy. Small meals and lots of them. Just some

> > > ideas,

> > > >

> > > > designs wrote:

> > > > > I was wondering if heavy metal build up can cause

> > unexplained weight

> > > > > gain? My son who had no family pre-disposition to weight

> > gain, and

> > > > eats

> > > > > no junk foods at all, started gaining weight at 7 and

> has not

> > > stopped.

> > > > > At 7 years old he weighed 51lbs which was right on the

> average

> > > line and

> > > > > now at 11 he has more than doubled that at 120. He has

> always

> > > had some

> > > > > gastrointestinal issues and the weight is primarlily in his

> > > belly. I

> > > > > have had his thyroid tested and had diabetic testing

> done, all

> > > results

> > > > > were normal. He complains about his stomach hurting and

> > none of the

> > > > > doctors will listen to me that this is not " normal " for

> > him. I am

> > > > > starting to think I should take him to a

> gastroenteroloist but

> > > the poor

> > > > > kid already has so many doctors. Any input would be

> > appreciated.

> > > > > -Charlotte

> > > > >

> > > > >

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-Charolotte

Have you considered " Leaky Gut Syndrome " ? It can mess up alot of

things as can yeast, bad bacteria and parasites. Haven't heard back

from Andy about son's hair analysis yet, but am wondering also. My

son is also overweight,(especially the overhanging gut), hypo

thyroid-according to labs and his temperature and elevated liver

enzymes. Just got the ones back from Drs data and only one is up

now. He'd been on enzymes for 2 weeks taking them much more

regularly. (Enzyme_Autism ) You may want to take his

temp to see if it's low consistently, others may have a link to do

it properly (my stuff is such a mess- can't find things well).I've

read that normal TSH doesn't really mean that much, need further

testing. He also stopped taking Concerta in Dec and weaned off the

Prozac by Feb. Another thing I'm just barely reading about is the

mitochondria of the cells and antioxidants and the immune system.

Don't know if this would help- am wondering the same things. Rose

-- In , " designs "

<scottdesigns@a...> wrote:

> No. He has been med free for a year. They had us trying

stimulants for about a year and a half before that and those

obviously stimulated his metabolism and he lost some weight but the

minute he went off them he gained 15 lbs in 3 months.

> -Charlotte

>

>

> From: designs [mailto:scottdesigns@a...]

> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:48 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] weight question

>

>

>

> I was wondering if heavy metal build up can cause unexplained

weight gain?

> He has always had some gastrointestinal

> issues and the weight is primarlily in his belly. I have had

his thyroid

> tested and had diabetic testing done, all results were normal.

He complains

> about his stomach hurting and none of the doctors will listen to

me that

> this is not " normal " for him. I am starting to think I should

take him to a

> gastroenteroloist but the poor kid already has so many doctors.

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I think my brain is going to explode! lol. I can not believe the amount of

info I have taken in over the past 2 years, and I don't even feel like I

scratched the surface. The amount of faith I use to have in doctors absolutely

frightens me know as does the fact that I seem to know MORE than some of them at

this point. If I call the pediatrician to ask about a particular supplement or

treatment before beginning it, he actually responds now by saying " I trust your

research " GREAT!

I wish we could afford a DAN! doctor but between the thousand plus a month in

health insurance, therapies, mortgage etc.....I just don't know how people are

doing it all.

I will look deeper into everything you mentioned Rose, thanks, as usual, you've

helped " across the boards " lol, literally :)

-Charlotte

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>

>

>

> I was wondering if heavy metal build up can cause unexplained

weight gain?

> He has always had some gastrointestinal

> issues and the weight is primarlily in his belly. I have had

his thyroid

> tested and had diabetic testing done, all results were normal.

He complains

> about his stomach hurting and none of the doctors will listen to

me that

> this is not " normal " for him. I am starting to think I should

take him to a

> gastroenteroloist but the poor kid already has so many doctors.

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Charlotte

My daughter just the other day said- now mom you're finally thinking

outside the box. Yes, and it's very scary, because we don't have a

dr that trusts my research or anything alternative and some days I'm

not all that sure either- am too impatient I guess. and yes my brain

feels like this also much of the time (explode), I've been reading

since Nov 04-starting with learning disabilities, leading to physical,

nutrition and now supplements and heavy metals- blows my mind major

time..-Take care and please update, that's how I learn anyway..Rose

-- In , " designs "

<scottdesigns@a...> wrote:

> I think my brain is going to explode! lol.

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Heavy metal toxicity often causes weight gain, there are many

mechanisms.

All heavy metal toxicities are mitochondrial disorders, and the current

faddish craze to pretend that there is some sort of " mitochondrial

disorder " on its own leads to a lot of harmful and inappropriate

treatment (like alpha lipoic acid on an improper schedule) that makes

the kids much harder to help later, as well as to a lot of looting.

The stimulant medications always result in weight loss - and stunt

growth too. Many were in fact approved as anorexiants - diet pills -

though that use is now not lawful. Despite changes in the law leading

to the political incorrectness of discussing the schedule 2 stimulant

medications as weight loss aids, they still are all anorexiants, all

suppress appetite, and all lead to weight loss.

Andy . . . . . . .

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> Dana, he gets 250mg a day, do you think that's too low? What dose

would you recommend at 120lbs?

If he weighs 120 pounds, he is an older child. His calcium should be

in the 800-1000mg per day range, and magnesium about half that, or

400-500mg just for the proper absorption of the calcium. Then you

would add extra magnesium on top of that.

Does he drink milk? If so, that by itself might be the cause of the

constipation. But it also might affect his cal/mag ratio.

Are you giving any cal/mag supplements?

For myself, depending on which supplements I use [certain supplements

cause constipation and require an increase of magnesium], I use 400mg

extra magnesium. I require as much as 1000mg extra magnesium with

certain supplements. This is actually a good thing for most of these

supplements, as excessive pulling of magnesium can mean the body was

deficient in that supplement and is pulling magnesium for proper

absorption.

Anyway, 250mg is probably too low. Try doubling it, see if that helps.

Dana

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Yes, Dana he is 11. He is not on a calcium supplement because I have yet to

find one that is small enough to crush into juice with everything else and the

kid friendly chewable ones seem to have allot of crap in them. If you can

suggest a brand that would be great!

As for milk, suspecting that it may be part of the problem, it was removed

almost 3 months ago. He won't touch milk anymore. He seems to be doing a

little better without it.

Right now he's getting a double dose of Nordic's Ultimate Omega liquid (1tsp

day) and 500mg taurine, 250 magnesium, 25 zinc and 100mg of B-6. All crushed

into a violently shaken small cup of OJ :)

No other way to get a pill of any kind into him!

I will double the mag, thanks!

[ ] Re: weight question

> Dana, he gets 250mg a day, do you think that's too low? What dose

would you recommend at 120lbs?

If he weighs 120 pounds, he is an older child. His calcium should be

in the 800-1000mg per day range, and magnesium about half that, or

400-500mg just for the proper absorption of the calcium. Then you

would add extra magnesium on top of that.

Does he drink milk? If so, that by itself might be the cause of the

constipation. But it also might affect his cal/mag ratio.

Are you giving any cal/mag supplements?

For myself, depending on which supplements I use [certain supplements

cause constipation and require an increase of magnesium], I use 400mg

extra magnesium. I require as much as 1000mg extra magnesium with

certain supplements. This is actually a good thing for most of these

supplements, as excessive pulling of magnesium can mean the body was

deficient in that supplement and is pulling magnesium for proper

absorption.

Anyway, 250mg is probably too low. Try doubling it, see if that helps.

Dana

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> Yes, Dana he is 11. He is not on a calcium supplement because I

have yet to find one that is small enough to crush into juice with

everything else and the kid friendly chewable ones seem to have allot

of crap in them. If you can suggest a brand that would be great!

Calcium supplements generally are not small.

However, calcium is a mineral, so you can bake it into things. Do you

make pancakes, cookies, bread, etc? Just make a batch and include

calcium.

I use Cal-Snack from my local health food store. It is wafers, round,

chewable, and does not contain nasty fillers.

> As for milk, suspecting that it may be part of the problem, it was

removed almost 3 months ago. He won't touch milk anymore. He seems

to be doing a little better without it.

Good

> Right now he's getting a double dose of Nordic's Ultimate Omega

liquid (1tsp day)

EFAs, especially evening primrose oil, caused MAJOR constipation here,

apparently because of serious deficiency. I started by adding 600mg

extra magnesium per day, to handle the constipation caused by just 4

drops [!] of EPO. As the deficiency was addressed, the extra

magnesium requirement was reduced. Now I give 150mg extra for the EPO

[still only 4 drops].

>>100mg of B-6.

High B6 also has a magnesium requirement, altho 100mg B6 is the " low

end of high " .

Dana

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