Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Hi > Do you have any ideas about why the 26th round was a difficult one? -- I don't really know. I think if you do enough rounds, sooner or later you are likely to get a bad one where some redistribution occurs. If you're lucky this will happen after quite a few rounds, so you have developed a faith in chelation and can see that you have still come out ahead. If you're unlucky, it could happen early in the piece and make you too scared to do anything new > Do you have any advice for anyone who finds that chelation is going > fine and then there is a difficult round? -- keep detailed notes on doses, times/intervals and behaviour during and after chelation. Look at issues like bile production and liver function and consider whether you need to put more effort into addressing these. >When you thought things out what conclusions did you come to? -- some eroneous ones. I assumed that side-effects were now outweighing benefits, so I should stop chelation and concentrate on anti-viral issues. But when the side-effects didn't fade away, I realised that they were caused by redistribution, which meant there were more metals in there that had to be removed. So I resumed chelation, and I'm glad I did. >When you resumed chelation did > you use a lower dose? more frequent dosing? -- Yes on both counts. We used to mix a 50mg cap of ALA with water and give it over 4 or 5 eqaul doses every 3 hours. Now we give it in six equal doses (ie 8.33mg per dose) every 2.5 hours. At night I stretch the interval to 2.75 hours. >Were you using ALA > before and are you using it now? -- we were using mostly ALA, sometimes with DMSA. I have now dropped DMSA as I believe my son has serious viral problems and I don't want to supress his neutrophils. So we give ALA only. >Do you have any advise for anyone > about how to decide when it is time to introduce ALA and how to know if they have introduced ALA too soon or at too high a dose or not frequent enough? -- I don't think ALA can be introduced too soon, or at least I don't think it need be introduced later than any other chelator. The main thing is to address fats supps and dietary intake of fats, boost liver and bile function, and look at ways of improving general detox and drainage. Once you have done this you are ready to chelate. Also, I think laoding with pantethine and biotin (given separately, not together) before and after chelation, plus a bit between doses, helps reduce some of the side-effects of ALA. ALA, B5 and biotin compete for some of the same pathways and ALA chelation can cause problems, esp adrenal problems in my experience If ALA scares you, try DMSA first. But you are actually more likely to get side-effects from DMSA, I think. Low, frequent doses are best, whatever you are using. Start very low and build up slowly and conservatively Also, if you can manage it, I think four-day rounds are better than 3 days Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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