Re: Is Pitocin safe to use? I'm due next week. (I have a 3 year-old autistic boy.)

[Guest guest]

Aside from the mother's convenience (schedule, pain avoidance) and from

the physician's convenience (schedule), Pitocin has a legitimate

function when labor is prolonged. Primary causes of prolonged labor are

intraamniotic infection and chorioamnionitis. When those occur, the

uterine muscles become less responsive to the mother's natural,

birthing-related oxytocin release. In many such cases, Pitocin provides

enuff oxytocin stimulation to prompt the completion of delivery. When

that doesn't work, the docs may need to proceed to caesarean delivery.

cites from my presenation about Scientific Foundations of a DAN!

protocol (basics: Heal the Gut, Optimize Nutrition, Chelate if

Necessary, Antivirals if necessary, etc)

1. Scientific Foundations of a DAN! Protocol Mini-DAN! Auburn, Alabama

Nov6, 2004

Binstock Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy ...

www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/binstock.pdf - Similar pages

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2. from the Citations for cite-1:

Chorioamnionitis, fetal, placental

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/dan/scientificfoundations.html

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“Conclusion: The incidence of silent chorioamnionitis (placental

membrane culture positivity) is higher in the abruptio placentae.”

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term infants.

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“Several small studies have suggested that chorioamnionitis has an

inhibitory effect upon labor, characterized by decreased uterine

contractility, decreased sensitivity to oxytocin stimulation, and

subnormal cervical dilation.” [3 cites]

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“Patients with intraamniotic infection have an increased rate of

cesarean delivery… These results support a causal relationship between

high-virulence bacteria in the amniotic fluid and poor cervical dilation

response to oxytocin…”

“Friedman… studied nulliparous patients with ‘amniotic infection

syndrome’ and found that 70.5% had labor dysfunction. More recent

reports have confirmed this association and have also identified an

increased frequency of cesarean delivery among these women.”

“Koh et al… reported a 43% cesarean section rate in 140 patients with

clinical ‘chorioamnionitis.’ “

“Two-thirds of the cesarean sections were performed because of poor

progress in labor despite the use of oxytocin…”

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minchenk wrote:

>Hi,

>I'm a new member. I have a 3 year-old autistic boy who just got a

>diagnosis of PDD-NOS 2 months ago.

>

>We're expecting a baby girl who will be due next Sat.(Jan. 15th,

>2005) Is " Pitocin " safe to use? My OB kept asking me whether I want

>to be induced or not if I'm overdue. Does " Pitocin " contribute to

>autism?

>

>Thanks!

>~

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[Guest guest]

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I don't know if anyone responded to your post, but it is good you asked. We have

a 3 y o asd boy and I am going through the protocol to rid myself of toxins

before conceiving. You may want to look at Uppledgers theory on the autism

epidemic. For my son I think it could have been a contributing factor. Uppledger

feels that with the increased use of epidural and petocin this is effecting our

children. In Lamaze class I recall they taught us that it is best to hold out as

long as you can before the epidural (after 5 or 6 cm), because it slows down the

cervix from opening. Uppledger says it also slows or stops the pelvic/hips from

spreading also. This being done along with the common practice of inducing all

labor with pitocin just to speed them up causes the uterus to contract stronger

and faster and ends up using the child's head as a battering ram. Unfortunately

my son was stuck facing up and not facing down for 5 hrs of active labor. When

he dislodged himself and was born 15 Min

later he had an indentation in his head that never went away until this past

year when we had a Craniosacral Therapist treat him. A CST can prepare a woman

pelvic area for birth also and help the newborn baby right after delivery. Next

time around, God willing I will go all natural and use a CST, go on a GF/CF diet

while pregnant and nursing (nurse as long a physically possible), take

probiotics to keep my own yeast in check and of course no vaccines. I hope this

helps.

minchenk <minchenk@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm a new member. I have a 3 year-old autistic boy who just got a

diagnosis of PDD-NOS 2 months ago.

We're expecting a baby girl who will be due next Sat.(Jan. 15th,

2005) Is " Pitocin " safe to use? My OB kept asking me whether I want

to be induced or not if I'm overdue. Does " Pitocin " contribute to

autism?

Thanks!

~

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[Guest guest]

The debate over pitocin and epidurals leading to more c-sections and

stopping labor has been around for a long time. Each labor needs to

be looked at individually, of course, but the trend toward inducing

labor for convenience reasons is disturbing. I had not heard any

talk about Pitocin and Autism. Thankfully, that is not part of my

son's history anyway.

Being overdue isn't necessarily a bad sign. You can have an

ultrasound to look at the amount of amniotic fluid remaining if you

are concerned. A fetal stress test can be done (hook you up to a

monitor). There are also other ways to encourage the start of

labor: a HUGE meal seemed to trigger my first son's birth (I was 5

days late). Stripping the membranes is uncomfortable and has the

potential (very small, mind you) to tear the amniotic sack, but that

method started my contractions within 12 hours for my last son. I

had a nice, easy and fairly quick labor with him (he is my ASD

child). Long, long walks can sometimes start contractions. Do a

google search and see if you can find other non-medical

suggestions. I'd avoid drinking herbal teas BIG TIME. Just because

they are natural herbs does not mean they are safe for you or your

baby. If you are concerned about drugs, that caution needs to

include herbs.

Then there are the prostaglandin vaginal inserts or gels that can be

placed on the cervix. Those will sometimes start contractions

within hours. Experience tells me that these contractions HURT from

the beginning. I pulled that darned thing out WAY before they

wanted me to due to the painful contractions. That was my

daughter's birth. Wouldn't do THAT again.

You are wondering how many times I've induced labor (two)? How can

she preach about avoiding these things when she used them herself

(didn't know any better)? If I had another baby, I'd avoid

everything to avoid the 'what ifs' in the future (can't say I could

turn down an epidural!; but I would not induce).

Of course, talk to your OB. Ask lots of questions about what

situations will indicate the need to intervene. Convenience should

not be one of them, in my opinion. For the most part, babies are

the best at deciding when it is time to be born.

I wish you a wonderful labor and delivery.

Pam (not a doctor, just a mom!)

>

> Hi,

> I'm a new member. I have a 3 year-old autistic boy who just got a

> diagnosis of PDD-NOS 2 months ago.

>

> We're expecting a baby girl who will be due next Sat.(Jan. 15th,

> 2005) Is " Pitocin " safe to use? My OB kept asking me whether I

want

> to be induced or not if I'm overdue. Does " Pitocin " contribute to

> autism?

>

> Thanks!

> ~

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow! This is so interesting. When I was in labor with my daughter

they gave me pitocin. And then they told me I needed a C-Section

becuase my pelvic bones were too small.

Then when I got pregnant the next two times with my boys, I was told

it would be better to have scheduled c-Sections because my pelvic

bones are too small.

Boy, I wish I knew about how harmful pitocin and epidurals and

spinals are several years ago.

P

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In Lamaze class I recall they taught us that it is best to hold out

as long as you can before the epidural (after 5 or 6 cm), because it

slows down the cervix from opening. Uppledger says it also slows or

stops the pelvic/hips from spreading also. >

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[Guest guest]

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> Hi,

> I'm a new member. I have a 3 year-old autistic boy who just got a

> diagnosis of PDD-NOS 2 months ago.

>

> We're expecting a baby girl who will be due next Sat.(Jan. 15th,

> 2005) Is " Pitocin " safe to use? My OB kept asking me whether I

want

> to be induced or not if I'm overdue. Does " Pitocin " contribute to

> autism?

>

> Thanks!

> ~

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> =======================================================

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[Guest guest]

Pitocin does not contain thimerosal.

If large amounts of Pitocin were needed, then there is a strong

likelihood the mother had an intra-amniotic infection and

chorioamnionitis in the days (and probably weeks) prior to labor and

delivery.

Recent studies show that amniontic cytokines can alter fetal brain

development.

The sky is never blamed for the sinking of the Titanic. In many cases,

blaming Pitocin is akin to blaming the sky instead of focusing upon the

iceberg (ie, the chorioamnionitis and its cytokines).

ps: Cites for the above statements regarding chorioanmionitis can be

found in my Auburn presentation (on NAA website) and in my

physicians-training presentation (ARI's website).

[Guest guest]

Just so all potential moms don't go screaming for the door at the

word " epidural " :

My first son had his head stuck on my pelvis. After 12 hours of

labor, they started discussing c-section. I was at 5 cms. I was

given an epidural for comfort, I relaxed, Noah's head turned and he

was born vaginally. That epidural prevented my c-section.

I was given an epidural for my 3rd child when I was at 4 cms. I

have a huge pain tolerance for everything but labor, I guess. My

labor progressed very rapidly and Ian was born within an hour.

I also had an epidural for baby #2 who was born without any stall in

labor.

Not telling you they are 100% safe, but an epidural can be a good

thing!

Pam

> I was in the labor room with my cousin who was progressing well

but in quite a lot of pain. She was given an epidural while dilated

at 4cm and her progression all but stopped. She ended up having a c-

section.

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[Guest guest]

You are correct; each situation is different. I just wanted

some 'epidurals helped my situation' stories to be told. There are

many factors that can stall labor; epidurals may play an integral or

a coincidental role in that problem. Regardless, they are NOT

essential and should given further study...

Pam

> > I was in the labor room with my cousin who was progressing well

> but in quite a lot of pain. She was given an epidural while

dilated

> at 4cm and her progression all but stopped. She ended up having a

c-

> section.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

You are very knowledgeable on this issue, hence could let me know

which is better general or local aneasthesia for c-sec. My friend

who has a first born with ASD is due to have a repeat c-sec.

My friend would like a local anaesthsia.

Which aneasthesia is safer user? and which anitibiotic would be safer

to use for her , as she plans to breastfeed from the very start.

thanks

erin