Re: vitamin c, mg citrate - producing anxiousness/sleeplessness/irritability

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Thanks for all of the information and comments about large doses of

vit c and possibly mg citrate.

I'll look into both more on my own.

We needed large doses of vit c for our son's constipation and we

changed from mg glycinate to mg citrate b/c of his constipatiion.

Both changes helped him to have daily BM's however, we also observed

an increase in his anxiety/sleeplessness and irritability.

> >

> > Thanks for your response, Patti.

> > Vitamin C: We haven't increased the dose of vitamin C. He's

been

> on between 1500-2000 for a long while.

> >

> > I hadn't heard the mg citrate could cause sleeplessness in some

> people. Does anyone else have sleep issues with mg citrate?

> >

> > We use magnesium in citrate form for our son's constipation.He

> was on mg glycinate. Thanks so much for that information. I'll do

> some research as well. Although, our son's been on mg citrate for

> over 4 weeks and we're just now seeing the sleeplessness. Wonder if

> that is it? He'll go to sleep and now sleeps about 5-6 hours but

then

> all bets for more sleep are usually off.

> >

> > Probiotics: We were giving our son Kirkman's lactobacillis

> acidophilus in capsules and did switch recently to Klaire Labs Ther-

> biotic complete powder. We've slowly increased his dosage from 1/4

t.

> per day to 1/2 t. daily. Do probiotics have a sleeplessness effect?

> >

> > We haven't tried the SCD yogurt. Yet.

> >

> > I really don't think this is (another) die-off. Heck, we're not

> sure if the first die-off was really a die-off. About 5-7 days

after

> beginning the diet, our son came down with a intense cold - green

> (yuck!) runny nose. For days on end. Something we haven't seen in

him

> in many, many years. In retrospect, it appeared like it could have

> been a die-off in some way.

> >

> > We've been giving our son epsom salt baths on and off for

years.

> Really haven't seen any effect in any way from them. But when we

was

> younger, like many kids, he loved the bath so i thought why not add

> it and see if there's any benefit. He recently took a few baths

with

> epsom salts but again, no change positive or negative.

> >

> > We're sticking with the diet for some time to come, Just

> disappointing to think he had sleep

> > as a positive effect of the diet and then it turned back

around.

> >

> > I'll search for the magnesium message as well. Thanks again.

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> >

> >

> > I honestly don't know if the vitamin C could be causing this.

Did

> you increase that dose recently? Or has he taken the same dose for

a

> long time?

> >

> > I know that magnesium citrate might be the most helpful form of

mag

> for helping with constipation, but it may contribute to

sleeplessness

> for some. I know it does that to me... if I take it before bedtime.

> Tamaro actually clued me in that the mag citrate might be

> the culprit, and suggested I switch to magnesium glycinate. I will

> have to go back and search for the message she sent me, explaining

> why.... and I'll send it to you off list. The glycinate form

doesn't

> have the same laxative effect, though.

> >

> > Are you using probiotics? SCD yogurt?

> >

> > You *could* just be seeing another round of die-off at this

> point.... it's hard to know. Some kids cycle through that numerous

> times. Sounds like your instincts are telling you that it's not...

so

> I'm not sure. Did baths with epsom salts help him before with die-

off

> symptoms?

> >

> > I will go search for that message on the magnesium.

> >

> > Patti

> >

> >

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