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Sounds like your daughter has some sensory integration issues... she has

some tactile defensiveness. I'm not sure exactly what the solution is but I

would definitely talk to an occupational therapist. My son had similar

issues, particularly when it came to his mouth. He actually does allow me

to help him brush his teeth today and has vastly improved. However, he

still likes to mouth objects, often inappropriately.

Good luck!

Note: If you live in NJ, I can recommend some OT's!

From: " nancfin " <nancfin@...>

Subject: [ ] advice

Date: Wed, May 1, 2002, 10:26 PM

I need some much needed advice from anyone who wants to jump in. My

daughter has been seeing a new SLP since Feb. I have the highest

regard for her abilities and feel very confidient of her diagnosis

and treatment. My daughter had been seeing a ST with EI for months

without any results. (the new SLP), diagnosed oral

hypotonia, and we started Beckman Oral Motor exercises. It was

actually amazing the difference in my daughter's speech in just a

month. We started out with just more or less touching the outside of

the mouth and each week started a new oral exercise. For any of you

who have any experience with these exercises, I guess you might be

able to understand my problem. Ok, here it is. At first getting my

daughter to cooperate was no problem. The more in depth the

exercises became the more uncooperative she has become. I have to

absolutely fight her to do these at home, and now she refuses to let

her SLP get near her mouth with her hands. We drive 2 hours one way

for therapy and today we had to leave early due to the tantrum my

daughter had when tried to measure the movement in her lips.

I realize my daughter is just 3 years old and it's hard I guess for

her to understand why we do what we do, but we aren't hurting her.

I've tried talking to her, threatening her, disciplining her, and

today even popped her on her butt when she pitched her fit in

therapy. Does ANYONE have ANY suggestions or advice. If so, PLEASE

respond.

Thanks forever,

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Have they done the blood work or DNA to rule out any

of these?

--- lldybg013 <LldyBg013@...> wrote:

> I was diagnosed with RSD in 1987. I have had several

> years of

> Physical therapy and several surgeries for this

> decease. I have it in

> both legs. In march of 2001 I was diagnosed with CMT

> by 2 doc. now

> last tuesday I saw a Doc. in Santa Ynez Ca. He tells

> me he doesn't

> think that I have either disease, and that he is'nt

> dure what I have

> but he doesn't think it is what Iv'e been told all

> these years. I

> ahve agreed to go see another Doctor { this is

> number 32} this Doc.

> is a pain specialist in Santa Barbara Ca. I'am

> sechedualed to have a

> interveinas Lidocaine Infusion nexy Tuesday for the

> RSD and the Cmt

> pain that Iam having I take oxicontin everday 240

> milligrams. Now I'm

> not sure of what to do next. Has anyone been told

> they have this

> disease and then told they don't, I have been in

> this group for

> awhile and have learned alot about this disease and

> identified with

> so many of you. Don't get me wrong I would be happy

> to find out

> everyone is wrong and what I have is fixable but

> then am afraid to

> get my hopes shattered again Iam in my 50's and

> would like good news

> for a change. have any of you been thruogh anything

> similar

>

>

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Hi Staci,

Here is my advice....

Expect to spend 2-3 hours at the office. Reason is that Dr. G

completes all his other appointments and then spends uninterrupted

time with first time visitors, but it sometimes takes a while to

complete the other appointments first. Once you meet with Dr.

Goldberg he will probably spend an hour or more with you.

Bring your own snacks and drinks for your son (and yourselves).

There is a pharmacy downstairs that sells juice and packaged snacks,

but it's mostly candy, etc. I was at Dr. Goldberg's office yesterday

and saw a family there for their first visit. They brought a small

cooler with them, which I thought was a good idea.

Most of the time Dr. G will be speaking to you, rather than examining

your child. Bring some things your son likes to do to keep him happy

(books, toys, etc.). There are a few toys in the office.

If you and your spouse are going, I recommend designating one of you

as the note taker and one as the talker. It's hard for one person to

take notes and talk - at least it is for me. Write down any

questions you already have in advance.

The physical exam and any blood that is required for tests will be

done at the end of the visit. For future visits, you can ask for

copies of the lab results and allergy test results if you wish.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck,

Vicki

> Hi-

> In three weeks we are going to take our 3 year old son to see Dr.

Goldberg

> for the first time. I just wondered if anyone has any last minute

advice

> for us- things you wish you would have known, asked, or done at the

> appointment.

>

> Also, about how long is the appointment from start to finish? Our

> pediatrician would not run any of the bloodwork so we will be doing

all that

> while we are there.

>

> Any advice is appreciated, we are a little nervous since we're not

sure what

> all goes on at the first consultation.

>

> Thanks in advance,

> Staci

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I remember someone commenting on this list that Dr. Goldberg doesn't

mind if you bring a tape recorder to the appointment. This would

eliminate the note taking and you'd be able to concentrate better on

what he's saying and ask needed questions.

mm_mommy wrote:

> Hi Staci,

>

> Here is my advice....

>

> Expect to spend 2-3 hours at the office. Reason is that Dr. G

> completes all his other appointments and then spends uninterrupted

> time with first time visitors, but it sometimes takes a while to

> complete the other appointments first. Once you meet with Dr.

> Goldberg he will probably spend an hour or more with you.

>

> Bring your own snacks and drinks for your son (and yourselves).

> There is a pharmacy downstairs that sells juice and packaged snacks,

> but it's mostly candy, etc. I was at Dr. Goldberg's office yesterday

> and saw a family there for their first visit. They brought a small

> cooler with them, which I thought was a good idea.

>

> Most of the time Dr. G will be speaking to you, rather than examining

> your child. Bring some things your son likes to do to keep him happy

> (books, toys, etc.). There are a few toys in the office.

>

> If you and your spouse are going, I recommend designating one of you

> as the note taker and one as the talker. It's hard for one person to

> take notes and talk - at least it is for me. Write down any

> questions you already have in advance.

>

> The physical exam and any blood that is required for tests will be

> done at the end of the visit. For future visits, you can ask for

> copies of the lab results and allergy test results if you wish.

>

> Hope this is helpful. Good luck,

> Vicki

>

>

> > Hi-

> > In three weeks we are going to take our 3 year old son to see Dr.

> Goldberg

> > for the first time. I just wondered if anyone has any last minute

> advice

> > for us- things you wish you would have known, asked, or done at the

> > appointment.

> >

> > Also, about how long is the appointment from start to finish? Our

> > pediatrician would not run any of the bloodwork so we will be doing

> all that

> > while we are there.

> >

> > Any advice is appreciated, we are a little nervous since we're not

> sure what

> > all goes on at the first consultation.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Staci

>

>

>

>

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I brought a tape recorder and he didn't mind. I would ask before you do

this just in case, but it was great to be able to listen to the tape to

get things I had missed during the appointment. He answers all your

questions, but sometimes he talks about other things before he gets to

the answer and if your little one interrupts you may lose the train of

the conversation.

Good luck.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:29:16 -0500 ette Cormier

<paulette.cormierale@...> writes:

> I remember someone commenting on this list that Dr. Goldberg doesn't

> mind if you bring a tape recorder to the appointment. This would

> eliminate the note taking and you'd be able to concentrate better

> on

> what he's saying and ask needed questions.

>

> mm_mommy wrote:

>

> > Hi Staci,

> >

> > Here is my advice....

> >

> > Expect to spend 2-3 hours at the office. Reason is that Dr. G

> > completes all his other appointments and then spends

> uninterrupted

> > time with first time visitors, but it sometimes takes a while to

> > complete the other appointments first. Once you meet with Dr.

> > Goldberg he will probably spend an hour or more with you.

> >

> > Bring your own snacks and drinks for your son (and yourselves).

> > There is a pharmacy downstairs that sells juice and packaged

> snacks,

> > but it's mostly candy, etc. I was at Dr. Goldberg's office

> yesterday

> > and saw a family there for their first visit. They brought a

> small

> > cooler with them, which I thought was a good idea.

> >

> > Most of the time Dr. G will be speaking to you, rather than

> examining

> > your child. Bring some things your son likes to do to keep him

> happy

> > (books, toys, etc.). There are a few toys in the office.

> >

> > If you and your spouse are going, I recommend designating one of

> you

> > as the note taker and one as the talker. It's hard for one person

> to

> > take notes and talk - at least it is for me. Write down any

> > questions you already have in advance.

> >

> > The physical exam and any blood that is required for tests will

> be

> > done at the end of the visit. For future visits, you can ask for

> > copies of the lab results and allergy test results if you wish.

> >

> > Hope this is helpful. Good luck,

> > Vicki

> >

> >

> > > Hi-

> > > In three weeks we are going to take our 3 year old son to see

> Dr.

> > Goldberg

> > > for the first time. I just wondered if anyone has any last

> minute

> > advice

> > > for us- things you wish you would have known, asked, or done at

> the

> > > appointment.

> > >

> > > Also, about how long is the appointment from start to finish?

> Our

> > > pediatrician would not run any of the bloodwork so we will be

> doing

> > all that

> > > while we are there.

> > >

> > > Any advice is appreciated, we are a little nervous since we're

> not

> > sure what

> > > all goes on at the first consultation.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > > Staci

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi,

We just back from the first appointment. It was impressive. Dr.Goldberg said

pretty much the same as he said in his presentation. He will talk to you

more than to you child. Blood work was very fast. Usually Dr.Goldberg runs

out of time and he was almost an hour late, but he " all yours " . Now other

patients, no phone calls. We have 3 y son also. You will see a lot of

patients in his office. We saw two big kids and it is hard, but we saw very

nice 4y old boy, played and talked to Dr. We were told that he started a

year ago and was in dark side of spectrum. I do not know about you child, we

have 3 y son with mild form of autism. It seemed that he does not have other

problems. MMR, neurospect were not recommended in this step. We are going to

try antiviral (we will know more after blood work will be done). It is nice

to have blood work with you (we had about 40%), but from the other side Dr.

likes to send it to certain labs, so it will be better to do this in his

office.

We are lucky having BCBS PPO, so I paid only for food allergy panel (my test

form Great Smokies was not accepted), so I paid only $99 form my pocket (so

far).

We used tape recorder. Ask first Dr. if he does not mind.

Good luck.

Regina

Re: Re: Advice

I remember someone commenting on this list that Dr. Goldberg doesn't

mind if you bring a tape recorder to the appointment. This would

eliminate the note taking and you'd be able to concentrate better on

what he's saying and ask needed questions.

mm_mommy wrote:

> Hi Staci,

>

> Here is my advice....

>

> Expect to spend 2-3 hours at the office. Reason is that Dr. G

> completes all his other appointments and then spends uninterrupted

> time with first time visitors, but it sometimes takes a while to

> complete the other appointments first. Once you meet with Dr.

> Goldberg he will probably spend an hour or more with you.

>

> Bring your own snacks and drinks for your son (and yourselves).

> There is a pharmacy downstairs that sells juice and packaged snacks,

> but it's mostly candy, etc. I was at Dr. Goldberg's office yesterday

> and saw a family there for their first visit. They brought a small

> cooler with them, which I thought was a good idea.

>

> Most of the time Dr. G will be speaking to you, rather than examining

> your child. Bring some things your son likes to do to keep him happy

> (books, toys, etc.). There are a few toys in the office.

>

> If you and your spouse are going, I recommend designating one of you

> as the note taker and one as the talker. It's hard for one person to

> take notes and talk - at least it is for me. Write down any

> questions you already have in advance.

>

> The physical exam and any blood that is required for tests will be

> done at the end of the visit. For future visits, you can ask for

> copies of the lab results and allergy test results if you wish.

>

> Hope this is helpful. Good luck,

> Vicki

>

>

> > Hi-

> > In three weeks we are going to take our 3 year old son to see Dr.

> Goldberg

> > for the first time. I just wondered if anyone has any last minute

> advice

> > for us- things you wish you would have known, asked, or done at the

> > appointment.

> >

> > Also, about how long is the appointment from start to finish? Our

> > pediatrician would not run any of the bloodwork so we will be doing

> all that

> > while we are there.

> >

> > Any advice is appreciated, we are a little nervous since we're not

> sure what

> > all goes on at the first consultation.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Staci

>

>

>

>

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Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful advice!!! We appreciate all of it.

Staci

Re: Re: Advice

I remember someone commenting on this list that Dr. Goldberg doesn't

mind if you bring a tape recorder to the appointment. This would

eliminate the note taking and you'd be able to concentrate better on

what he's saying and ask needed questions.

mm_mommy wrote:

> Hi Staci,

>

> Here is my advice....

>

> Expect to spend 2-3 hours at the office. Reason is that Dr. G

> completes all his other appointments and then spends uninterrupted

> time with first time visitors, but it sometimes takes a while to

> complete the other appointments first. Once you meet with Dr.

> Goldberg he will probably spend an hour or more with you.

>

> Bring your own snacks and drinks for your son (and yourselves).

> There is a pharmacy downstairs that sells juice and packaged snacks,

> but it's mostly candy, etc. I was at Dr. Goldberg's office yesterday

> and saw a family there for their first visit. They brought a small

> cooler with them, which I thought was a good idea.

>

> Most of the time Dr. G will be speaking to you, rather than examining

> your child. Bring some things your son likes to do to keep him happy

> (books, toys, etc.). There are a few toys in the office.

>

> If you and your spouse are going, I recommend designating one of you

> as the note taker and one as the talker. It's hard for one person to

> take notes and talk - at least it is for me. Write down any

> questions you already have in advance.

>

> The physical exam and any blood that is required for tests will be

> done at the end of the visit. For future visits, you can ask for

> copies of the lab results and allergy test results if you wish.

>

> Hope this is helpful. Good luck,

> Vicki

>

>

> > Hi-

> > In three weeks we are going to take our 3 year old son to see Dr.

> Goldberg

> > for the first time. I just wondered if anyone has any last minute

> advice

> > for us- things you wish you would have known, asked, or done at the

> > appointment.

> >

> > Also, about how long is the appointment from start to finish? Our

> > pediatrician would not run any of the bloodwork so we will be doing

> all that

> > while we are there.

> >

> > Any advice is appreciated, we are a little nervous since we're not

> sure what

> > all goes on at the first consultation.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Staci

>

>

>

>

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Marci,

Thanks I think I'll check into airholes on our next visit.

(MOM2SHANNON)

Re: (PositionalPlagioSupport)

,Welcome back!! I think you should go for the airholes!! Any bit of ventilation is sure to help. Sorry to hear that she is not adjusting too well, but hopefully things will begin to improve soon.Marci (Mom to )OklahomaFor more plagio info

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:

The air holes could help out with her sweating, they just

didn't help my Abby much. I am glad her new band fits much better.

I hope her sweating decreases soon! Good luck.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCgrad

MI

> > > Sunflower

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > Its been a while since I posted. My computer went down.

I'm

> > sure I miss a lot of interesting info. I know I missed having

you

> > all to lean on. A quick update has her NICband for

about a

> > month. She had some trouble with the fit in the beginning.

Her

> > orthist remolded and the one does seem to fit better. She's

not

> > adjusting that well, she really hates it being on. especially

when

> > the weather got warm. (Very sweaty). I know they can put air

> holes

> > but I don't know if that would help. Anyone have any thoughts?

> > >

> > > take care,

> > >

> > > (MOM2SHANNON)

>

>

>

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Hi,

He sweat for the first 2-3 days as his body became accustomed to the

helemt. Now his hair is always dry ! I figure the holes sure

didn't hurt!

Dana

> > Sunflower

> > Hello,

> >

> > Its been a while since I posted. My computer went down. I'm

> sure I miss a lot of interesting info. I know I missed having

you

> all to lean on. A quick update has her NICband for

about a

> month. She had some trouble with the fit in the beginning. Her

> orthist remolded and the one does seem to fit better. She's not

> adjusting that well, she really hates it being on. especially

when

> the weather got warm. (Very sweaty). I know they can put air

holes

> but I don't know if that would help. Anyone have any thoughts?

> >

> > take care,

> >

> > (MOM2SHANNON)

>

>

> For more plagio info

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My SLP/oral myologist AND Cory's other SLP get him to use a lollipop to do

some of the tongue side to side exercises and tongue up and down exercises.

Place the sucker to the left, have them lick and vice versa. Also, if she

fights practicing at home, use bribery? Make it fun! Let me know if this

works.

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, neither you nor your SLP need to do anything that imposes upon the

dignity and rights of your child, including the pop on the behind, which you

say didn't hurt her. Your daughter is communicating to you that her space is

being invaded. My suggestion is to stop this therapy immediately. Period.

Vera Karger, SLP

> I need some much needed advice from anyone who wants to jump in. My

> daughter has been seeing a new SLP since Feb. I have the highest

> regard for her abilities and feel very confidient of her diagnosis

> and treatment. My daughter had been seeing a ST with EI for months

> without any results. (the new SLP), diagnosed oral

> hypotonia, and we started Beckman Oral Motor exercises. It was

> actually amazing the difference in my daughter's speech in just a

> month. We started out with just more or less touching the outside of

> the mouth and each week started a new oral exercise. For any of you

> who have any experience with these exercises, I guess you might be

> able to understand my problem. Ok, here it is. At first getting my

> daughter to cooperate was no problem. The more in depth the

> exercises became the more uncooperative she has become. I have to

> absolutely fight her to do these at home, and now she refuses to let

> her SLP get near her mouth with her hands. We drive 2 hours one way

> for therapy and today we had to leave early due to the tantrum my

> daughter had when tried to measure the movement in her lips.

> I realize my daughter is just 3 years old and it's hard I guess for

> her to understand why we do what we do, but we aren't hurting her.

> I've tried talking to her, threatening her, disciplining her, and

> today even popped her on her butt when she pitched her fit in

> therapy. Does ANYONE have ANY suggestions or advice. If so, PLEASE

> respond.

>

> Thanks forever,

>

>

>

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,

I agree with the other responses that you have received. I know it is

frustrating when your child won't cooperate with the help that he/she so

desperately needs and you want them to receive. I have to pay out of pocket

($120 per hour) for therapy my son receives and I know your frustration when

all the effort has been for nothing. The saying is so true that " you can

lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. "

Forcing the therapy is going to do more harm than good. Patience, love and

understanding will take you much further. Just remember that how ever much

anger or frustration you feel, your child feels it more and is just showing

you the only way he/she can. My suggestion is that you try and change

something about the therapy such as you not being present (leave the room or

have another person take them) or even a new therapist (even though I know

you expressed your like for this one). If this can't be a pleasant and fun

experience for your child I agree that stopping the therapy for a while would

be a good idea.

Good luck,

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Hi ,

I have to totally agree with Vera that you need to

STOP this therapy imediately. Your child will not

respond to forceful treatment, I know I have been

there with my son Jack. CHildren will not allow anyone

to do that stuff until they want to.

Eileen

--- Vera Karger <vkarger@...> wrote:

> , neither you nor your SLP need to do anything

> that imposes upon the

> dignity and rights of your child, including the pop

> on the behind, which you

> say didn't hurt her. Your daughter is communicating

> to you that her space is

> being invaded. My suggestion is to stop this therapy

> immediately. Period.

> Vera Karger, SLP

>

> > I need some much needed advice from anyone who

> wants to jump in. My

> > daughter has been seeing a new SLP since Feb. I

> have the highest

> > regard for her abilities and feel very confidient

> of her diagnosis

> > and treatment. My daughter had been seeing a ST

> with EI for months

> > without any results. (the new SLP),

> diagnosed oral

> > hypotonia, and we started Beckman Oral Motor

> exercises. It was

> > actually amazing the difference in my daughter's

> speech in just a

> > month. We started out with just more or less

> touching the outside of

> > the mouth and each week started a new oral

> exercise. For any of you

> > who have any experience with these exercises, I

> guess you might be

> > able to understand my problem. Ok, here it is. At

> first getting my

> > daughter to cooperate was no problem. The more in

> depth the

> > exercises became the more uncooperative she has

> become. I have to

> > absolutely fight her to do these at home, and now

> she refuses to let

> > her SLP get near her mouth with her hands. We

> drive 2 hours one way

> > for therapy and today we had to leave early due to

> the tantrum my

> > daughter had when tried to measure the

> movement in her lips.

> > I realize my daughter is just 3 years old and it's

> hard I guess for

> > her to understand why we do what we do, but we

> aren't hurting her.

> > I've tried talking to her, threatening her,

> disciplining her, and

> > today even popped her on her butt when she pitched

> her fit in

> > therapy. Does ANYONE have ANY suggestions or

> advice. If so, PLEASE

> > respond.

> >

> > Thanks forever,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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- while my son hasn't been doing the Beckman exercises per se,

he had grown increasingly less cooperative with certain exercises

with his SLP. I asked him once when belting him into the car after a

particularly uncooperative session if what he did with his SLP was

hard and he started to cry and said, " yes yes yes " . My heart just

broke. Since then, I've told him that I know some of it's hard and

that he doesn't have to do anything perfectly, just to try... Since

then, he's been MUCH more cooperative and now runs down the hall to

go see his SLP. I also quit forcing regemented practice at home - he

didn't need to resent me, too. Instead, we worked on what he was

good at, and he got lots of praise for trying ANYTHING - puzzles,

food, jumping, etc..

I would say to back off from the type of therapy. No one is going to

be helped by your daughter growing more and more resentful of the SLP

and having to go. You can return to this type of therapy when she's

ready - all things in due time.

Good luck!

Marina

> I need some much needed advice from anyone who wants to jump in. My

> daughter has been seeing a new SLP since Feb. I have the highest

> regard for her abilities and feel very confidient of her diagnosis

> and treatment. My daughter had been seeing a ST with EI for months

> without any results. (the new SLP), diagnosed oral

> hypotonia, and we started Beckman Oral Motor exercises. It was

> actually amazing the difference in my daughter's speech in just a

> month. We started out with just more or less touching the outside

of

> the mouth and each week started a new oral exercise. For any of

you

> who have any experience with these exercises, I guess you might be

> able to understand my problem. Ok, here it is. At first getting my

> daughter to cooperate was no problem. The more in depth the

> exercises became the more uncooperative she has become. I have to

> absolutely fight her to do these at home, and now she refuses to

let

> her SLP get near her mouth with her hands. We drive 2 hours one

way

> for therapy and today we had to leave early due to the tantrum my

> daughter had when tried to measure the movement in her

lips.

> I realize my daughter is just 3 years old and it's hard I guess for

> her to understand why we do what we do, but we aren't hurting her.

> I've tried talking to her, threatening her, disciplining her, and

> today even popped her on her butt when she pitched her fit in

> therapy. Does ANYONE have ANY suggestions or advice. If so, PLEASE

> respond.

>

> Thanks forever,

>

>

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My son will not cooperate with either his speech therapist or feeding

therapist unless I go into the observation tank. He sees me as an out and

still points to the glass I'm behind as an avoidance behavior, but he

focuses better without me as a real option and is more prone to do what he

can to befriend his therapists as they are the ones in charge who dole out

the cookies and love at that moment.

Betsy

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Oral motor therapy stuff is hard to get Wiley into. Like brushing his

cheeks with the nuk brush and so on and so forth - he is acts out a ton with

me, is better with his feeding therapist, though still wimpers a bit, etc.

Just doesn't want his mouth played with. However, what has helped is

letting him control the tools a bit - letting him to the exercises first

before having the therapist do them - also, having the therapist or me do

the same to our own mouths that we are asking him to do with his, so if he

has a nuk brush in his mouth or a strip of tubing or whatever, so do I.

Makes it easier on him. When he acts out at home, I just put the harder

pieces of the therapy away and let him play with bubbles, blow toys,

licorice, etc. I can't afford to let him reject the therapy - it's very

helpful for him so I just let things slide when he's really averse to it and

try more fun activities that don't seem as obviously about work.

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Hi ,

I think we have all been in your shoes where we know how important

therapy is especially like in your case you see a positive change. It is so

frustrating as a parent and for our little ones cannot express back what

they are feeling.

I certainly don't think you should stop seeing a therapist who is

competent and already your daughter is progressing with. If we all

gave in to our kids when they acted up none of them would be in

therapy!!

Talk to the therapist and maybe she can take a step back with the

oral motor activities until your daughter is more comfortable with

being touched. I think as another Mom said perhaps she is frustrated

that it is difficult and recognizes that it is not an easy process.

We went through stages like this with my son. Most recently he would

not go into therapy without me. When he was out of therapy for about

2 weeks over Easter he ran in when we resumed and left me in the dust!

Sometimes it is trial and error to see what works. Know you are a great Mom and

are doing the right thing by getting her proper treatment. Hang in there.

> I need some much needed advice from anyone who wants to jump in. My

> daughter has been seeing a new SLP since Feb. I have the highest

> regard for her abilities and feel very confidient of her diagnosis

> and treatment. My daughter had been seeing a ST with EI for months

> without any results. (the new SLP), diagnosed oral

> hypotonia, and we started Beckman Oral Motor exercises. It was

> actually amazing the difference in my daughter's speech in just a

> month. We started out with just more or less touching the outside

of

> the mouth and each week started a new oral exercise. For any of

you

> who have any experience with these exercises, I guess you might be

> able to understand my problem. Ok, here it is. At first getting my

> daughter to cooperate was no problem. The more in depth the

> exercises became the more uncooperative she has become. I have to

> absolutely fight her to do these at home, and now she refuses to

let

> her SLP get near her mouth with her hands. We drive 2 hours one

way

> for therapy and today we had to leave early due to the tantrum my

> daughter had when tried to measure the movement in her

lips.

> I realize my daughter is just 3 years old and it's hard I guess for

> her to understand why we do what we do, but we aren't hurting her.

> I've tried talking to her, threatening her, disciplining her, and

> today even popped her on her butt when she pitched her fit in

> therapy. Does ANYONE have ANY suggestions or advice. If so, PLEASE

> respond.

>

> Thanks forever,

>

>

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Many of us have been there with our kids. (3.5) has oral motor

issues and sensory issues around his face and mouth. We <don't> do

the school/therapy exercises at home -- it was too much. We have

found alternate ways of accomplishing the same stuff, but no sitting

and doing at home (just doesn't work).

I agree with the other posts that backing off on the deep pressure

sounds like the right thing just now -- until she is more ready. We

also talk to about how we will do just a " little " of the hard

stuff, then more easy stuff.

also does the " hard " stuff better without me in the room. It

has always been important for us to let know that going

to " class " isn't an option -- but we will work together to make sure

that " class " is fun.

Hang in there -- it always seems unbearable before it gets better!

Margaret...'s Momo

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Thank you all for your advice. I knew there were some smart minds at work here.

You know, I think just knowing my child is not the only child to act this way

makes ME feel 100% better. Now I think I the SLP and I need to talk about

alternative methods.

Thans again

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,

Thanks for the advice! Hopefully it will help someone out!!

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila.,PA

> Hi Everyone!

>

> Since there are a few kids getting fitted soon or getting their

> bands/helmets soon, I wanted to pipe in with a great piece of

advice

> that my neurologist gave to us when our first child got his

helmet.

> The day we went he said to not put the helmet on right away. Let

him

> play with it on the way home and sleep with it in his crib. Then,

in

> the morning after a bath, put it on. Worked like a charm! When

the

> doctor first told us this, I thought the man was nuts, but he was

> right. Seems to have something to do with developing

an " ownership " ,

> so to speak, of the helmet. I don't know if they are still

> advocating this anywhere else, but it sure worked for us and Walter

> NEVER objected to his helmet. His was the kind that covered the

> whole head, with airholes, and had a valcro chin strap on it. And

he

> had to wear it july 98 to december 98. Thanks for letting me pipe

in

> my .02.

>

>

> Central PA

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Thanks for that great advice to everyone- it will surely help someone out

there that is currently having problems with their child adapting to it!

Thanks for sharing your experience/wisdom- sounds like a really great idea!

' Mom

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Thanks for the advice . I believe some orthos still think along those

lines, but if they don't they should!

That's great advice for people who are just getting started - thanks!

Marci (mom to )

Oklahoma

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:

Thanks for piping in your 2 cents! That's a great piece of advice.

We all know how kid's like to claim everything as " mine " ....thanks a

lot!

Debbie Abby's mom DOCgrad

MI

> Hi Everyone!

>

> Since there are a few kids getting fitted soon or getting their

> bands/helmets soon, I wanted to pipe in with a great piece of

advice

> that my neurologist gave to us when our first child got his

helmet.

> The day we went he said to not put the helmet on right away. Let

him

> play with it on the way home and sleep with it in his crib. Then,

in

> the morning after a bath, put it on. Worked like a charm! When

the

> doctor first told us this, I thought the man was nuts, but he was

> right. Seems to have something to do with developing

an " ownership " ,

> so to speak, of the helmet. I don't know if they are still

> advocating this anywhere else, but it sure worked for us and Walter

> NEVER objected to his helmet. His was the kind that covered the

> whole head, with airholes, and had a valcro chin strap on it. And

he

> had to wear it july 98 to december 98. Thanks for letting me pipe

in

> my .02.

>

>

> Central PA

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Glad to hear that you're feeling better, Janice.

If you are currently active and going to the gym, that's great. I think

any sort of exercise that you enjoy and can do regularly is quite

valuable. If you can incorporate some weight training into your routine,

that would be a good idea.

For diet, good nutritional principles apply. I recommend staying away

from anything artificial or highly processed and limiting sugar, meat,

and dairy.

a has a lot of good information at her Web site:

http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/

[ ] advice

> Thanks to all the replies to my first post.

>

> So I woke up this morning feeling better (talked to my dr. and took

> some prednisone for my pain - by the way a, I started prednisone

> in January and plaquenil in February at which time I tapered

> completely off the prednisone - we also talked about how my drug

> strategy would be different if we weren't trying to get pregnant).

>

> I was hoping to get some advice from some of you around things you

> did/do or wish you had done. In an attempt to be proactive and

> create some healthy habits, etc... I thought I would seek your

> opinions on the following:

>

> Exercise - what have you found works the best? yoga, swim, strength

> conditioning? Do you get help from trainers or therapists or just

> go it on your own? I am still fairly young and active and would

> definitely like to stay that way as long as possible.

>

> Diet - besides staying slim, any advice? Any miracle foods,

> vitamins, supplements :)

>

> Insurance - any issues I should watch out for regarding pre-existing

> condition? drug costs and coverage? Currently I'm covered under my

> husbands insurance but he's most likely going to change jobs soon.

> In the future I am hoping to return to teaching which will hopefully

> ensure me some good benefits. Just a little scary now to be so

> dependent on insurance and medicine.

>

> Pregnancy - if we are successful with #2 any advice on how to help

> get through it - drugs or not.

>

> I guess that's all I can think of for now. I just feel like for the

> most part this year I have tried to ignore the fact that something

> is seriously wrong with me. I don't mind 'ignoring' it in the sense

> that I continue to live my life normally, but I want to make sure

> that I don't ignore taking care of myself and it so that I can

> continue to live my life as normally as possible - does that make

> sense?

>

> I'm off to the gym - hope everyone has a great weekend and thanks in

> advance for your advice help.

>

> Janice

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