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On 3/1/06 8:18 AM, " Hersom, A. " <susan.hersom@...> wrote:

I’d love to know about this as well since we’ll be going to Paris and London in June.

Thanks,

>

> Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do you

> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these

> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities in

> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would be

> most welcomed.

>

> Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun

> surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sites

> for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.

> During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding

> g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these

> cities in the future.

>

> If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!

> Thanks!

>

> Sue

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I'm going to piggyback on this too. We're going to Venice, Rome, Florence and Sorrento for our honeymoon in June. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

SUe...HOW EXCITING!!!!! That was so nice of Rach!!!

-----Original Message-----From: A. Haumann <laumann@...> Sent: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:58:07 -0800Subject: Re: [ ] Traveling to Europe

On 3/1/06 8:18 AM, "Hersom, A." <susan.hersom@...> wrote:I?d love to know about this as well since we?ll be going to Paris and London in June.Thanks,> > Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do you> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities in> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would be> most welcomed. > > Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun> surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sites> for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.> During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding> g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these> cities in the future. > > If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!> Thanks!> > Sue> > > > >

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, we will be returning from our trip on Saturday, June 3, and I will need a few days to compile my thoughts and notes before e-mailing any info. When are you leaving for your trip to London and Paris? If you are leaving the first week of June, I can always e-mail you my home phone no. and give you any info you need before you leave.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of A. HaumannSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Traveling to Europe

On 3/1/06 8:18 AM, "Hersom, A." <susan.hersom@...> wrote:I’d love to know about this as well since we’ll be going to Paris and London in June.Thanks,> > Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do you> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities in> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would be> most welcomed. > > Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun> surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sites> for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.> During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding> g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these> cities in the future. > > If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!> Thanks!> > Sue> > > > >

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On 3/1/06 10:02 AM, " Hersom, A. " <susan.hersom@...> wrote:

As it turns out we leave right after you get back: June 7.

Some restaurant ideas would be great.

Thanks,

, we will be returning from our trip on Saturday, June 3, and I will need a few days to compile my thoughts and notes before e-mailing any info. When are you leaving for your trip to London and Paris? If you are leaving the first week of June, I can always e-mail you my home phone no. and give you any info you need before you leave.

Sue

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Subject: Re: [ ] Traveling to Europe

On 3/1/06 8:18 AM, " Hersom, A. " <susan.hersom@...> wrote:

I’d love to know about this as well since we’ll be going to Paris and London in June.

Thanks,

>

> Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do you

> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these

> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities in

> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would be

> most welcomed.

>

> Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun

> surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sites

> for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.

> During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding

> g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these

> cities in the future.

>

> If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!

> Thanks!

>

> Sue

>

>

>

>

>

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Lori, from Rome we will be taking a 2-day trip to Pompei, Capri and Sorrento. Supposedly, there is an Italian restaurant in Sorrento that serves g-f pasta and pizza. Can't wait to see if this is true and definitely will report back.

Sue

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of LSBlondie@...Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Traveling to Europe

I'm going to piggyback on this too. We're going to Venice, Rome, Florence and Sorrento for our honeymoon in June. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

SUe...HOW EXCITING!!!!! That was so nice of Rach!!!

-----Original Message-----From: A. Haumann <laumann@...> Sent: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:58:07 -0800Subject: Re: [ ] Traveling to Europe

On 3/1/06 8:18 AM, "Hersom, A." <susan.hersom@...> wrote:I?d love to know about this as well since we?ll be going to Paris and London in June.Thanks,> > Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do you> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities in> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would be> most welcomed. > > Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun> surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sites> for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.> During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding> g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these> cities in the future. > > If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!> Thanks!> > Sue> > > > >

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I went to Italy last summer (including Rome). It is a breeze traveling there for anyone on a gf diet. Almost all restaurants know about celiac so just ask. I found one great restaurant in Rome with gf pasta and they were very knowlegable about the diet (the owner/manager has a friend with celiac. It is called La Fiorentina and is located at Via Doria 22, not too far from the Vatican. Waiters are so helpful there and the food supply is uncontaminated with pesticides, hormones etc - a huge bonus!

You can also shop for gf food at pharmacies - cereal, bread, cookies, pasta, beer, etc.

Good luck and have fun. I would love to go back.

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delphiforums.com's celiac group has some files on travel destinations.

In Italy, I've found it easy to eat GF in excellent restaurants. Remember, Italy requires that all children be tested for CD before they start school, so most people are aware of the problem.

Snacks are the problem; when others pick up a panini (sandwich) or slice of pizza, you may have trouble finding anything to eat. I carry energy bars or yogurts or such in my bag for those times. You can buy GF beer in pharmacies.

France may be more of a problem, although I hear there is a place in Paris that sells GF croissants!

London should be easy. Recognition of CD seems to be high there.

You can make laminated cards in the appropriate languages telling waiters and chefs what your needs are. You can find appropriate text on-line.

H.

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I just remembered that there is a site, sponsored by the Italian government, that gives information about CD resources, such as restaurants, in English or Italian. I found it through delphiforums.com's CD group, which is excellent for this sort of information. My computer wasn't working well, and I had difficulty opening the site, so I can't tell you whether it was really useful.

In Venice, the chef in an excellent restaurant came out to talk to me about my preferences and put together menus for me.

The only time I had a problem in Italy was in a small town when I was very tired and my husband asked for "non-farina" (no wheat) instead of "non-glutino." I didn't notice what the waiter brought, and I got very sick after a few bites of the delicious barley dish.

Otherwise, eating well was far easier in Italy than in the U.S.

I strongly recommend that you do research through the delphiforums.com celiac group. I very rarely think to log onto it, but it's great for specific needs, such as this. If you want information on food in Bucharest or Iceland or Tasmania, you can probably find it.

H.

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The NYT Sunday magazine had an article about a woman who was very seriously ill from an undiagnosed illness. It proved to be scurvy, which she had developed because so many foods made her ill that she was seriously malnourished. I wonder if one of her food problems was CD.

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Sue,

I would think about a cheat sheet in French. I haven't heard much about how they handle Celiac there, but I have heard that Paris is very touristy & busy.

Italy & England should be a breeze. Remember to go to the Pharmacy, not grocery, in Italy for Gluten Free stuff. Other than that, I would recommend looking up the Celiac/Coeliac organizations in those cities/countries. They should have some good information.

Dan

On 3/1/06, Hersom, A. <susan.hersom@...> wrote:

Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do youhave any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these

cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities inMay (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would bemost welcomed.Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun

surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sitesfor information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding

g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to thesecities in the future.If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!Thanks!Sue

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I wanted to thank everyone who wrote to give me hints about my upcoming trip. Bear with me, but I wanted to share a story with you. Five years ago, I would not have even boarded an airplane - as a matter of fact, I was so terrified of airplanes that I made my family drive all the way to Washington to attend a wedding instead of flying there.

Even after I was finally diagnosed with CD (after 2 years and losing 23 lbs., having neighbors ask my husband if I was dying, losing my hair, legs swelling with edema, osteoporosis, leg cramps, extreme diarrhea, gas and stomach pain, severe anemia, ...oh... and the crowning glory of being accused by doctors of being anorexic, under stress or a "head case".....), the doctors still could not tell me much about celiac disease. As I was surfing the web (as we all do once we are diagnosed!), I came across GIG and their convention that they were holding that year in North Carolina.

I don't know what clicked inside me, but a week later I was on the plane BY MYSELF heading across the entire United States to the convention! What great information I learned at the 3-day convention and meeting Dr. Rudert changed my life and how I look at our disease. She was incredibly comforting and held me as I cried because I felt so alone and scared. I had been eating 4,500 calories a day at that point and still was losing a pound a day. I was terrified I was dying (I was 52 years old and weighed 94 lbs., and my mother died at 52 years old at 89 lbs. - unfortunately they did not know what this disease was 40 years ago). After Dr. Rudert talked with me for a half hour and wrote down my new prescription plan for life as a celiac, I was prepared to come home and live with my disease. It was a defining moment in my life because when I returned home, I wanted to help and support newly-diagnosed celiacs deal with their diagnosis. Since that time, I have flown to other GIG conventions in Denver, Chicago and Portland. To actually think I am flying to Europe on an 11-hour flight would have been incomprehensible to me 5 years ago. In a way, CD was a blessing in disguise (albeit a "small" blessing......), but CD did change my life very much for the better on many levels. I have close new-found friends I would never have met, I am definitely eating better, and, of course there's that trip to Europe to dream about... :):)

Thanks for listening to my story. I promise to e-mail a detailed report of everything I learned so if any of you travel over there, it will be a lot easier and more relaxed knowing where you can feel safe to eat.

Sue

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ALL OF EUROPE IS WAY WAY AHEAD OF THE US RE: GLUTEN INTOLERANCE.

JUST TELL THE WAITER AND HE/SHE WILL GET IT.

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Sue,

What an inspiring and beautiful story! And now you are using your experience to help others. As well as enjoying life for yourself! It sounds like CD has been that "small blessing".

Warmly,

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We went to Europe during a school break through Belgium, France, and

Italy, and actually ended up getting engaged in Rome, in front of

the Trevi Fountain. Needless to say, it was a wonderful trip. This

was not recent- it was 5 years ago, but it should still be accurate.

I found France to be very challenging, as I don't speak French,

didn't have a " cheat sheet " and wheat is a major feature in most

foods there. We stayed in the Rue Clare neighborhood near the Eiffel

Tower, and I did find a wonderful deli run by a somewhat grumpy

German woman who spoke English AND sold all kinds of useful things-

roasted artichokes (no breading), basmati rice, prepared... Whole

roasted chickens (which I did not eat due to being vegetarian). If

you find yourself in that neighborhood surrounded by the lovely

produce shops and cheese shops, you should find it easily. I was so

grateful to have rice! I also had mashed potatoes at several places

in France- sometimes it and a salad was my only option. We would

have loved a flat in France with a kitchen- we could have really

taken advantage of the beautiful markets then! Supermarkets are a

good place to find snacks- rice cakes, cheese, yogurt, fruit...

Italy was much easier. We went to Venice and Rome, and I loved tapas

bar hopping, where many of the tapas are very clearly safe (chunks

of cheese, roasted plain veggies, plain meats). I think we did that

in Venice. I also had some exceedingly fishy risotto in Venice- not

something I would recommend but I was desperate enough to eat fish

at that point. The gelato was wonderful in Florence! We did go to

one fancy restaurant in Venice where i had nice risotto and a lovely

cheese plate for dessert. And the espresso... ahhhh soooo tasty.

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>

> Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do

you

> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in

these

> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these

cities in

> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information

would be

> most welcomed.

>

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the cheat sheet is a good idea, specialy if youre not fluent in french.

you could print " allergy buddy " like cards in each language of the countries

you're

traveling to.

as for restaurants, I just dont know, and sincerely, am scared myself to go back

this

summer for 3 months.

as usual, gov policies stink, and france created that special " disability for

celiac " ages ago..

so either you are officially registered, and the gov is paying for special food

with special

membership, or you're not registered, and you're s...d .

serious pitfall include shopping for gluten free food such as bread, mixes, etc.

There are

NOT available in shops, only online (previously mail in) with membership. (and

dont even

dream about buying xantham gum... I'm bringing my own!)

so those are the majors ideas:

- print your cards. with a " rice instead of pasta " and " no gravy " - you should

be OK most

of the time.

- make sure they dont had the bread slice on the corner of the plate.

- as you reach there, please try to go shopping in a grocery store. For Paris,

my best bet is

" monoprix " . Look for the " health food " section, and there is a brand that would

give you

some options for snack to keep in your bagpack : bjorg (and his friends)

items you should find are a delicious rice milk, rice cakes, and probably one or

two gluten

free cookies.

You can also reach the baby aisle, and buy some gluten free cereals (Bledina

Biscuite, or

Bledina Fruits rouge tasts like heaven). You can either mix as said, or drop

couple spoons

in hot milk for a " french hot chocolate " (like a great dessert at restaurant:

just ask for a

bowl of hot milk, and you'll *eat* a " red berries pie " )

look at the lines of products and the possible logos at

http://www.distriborg.com/nourrir_vivre/familles_produits.htm

OK have to go. PLease contact me if you have more questions.

Sophie

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> >

> > Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do you

> > have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these

> > cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these cities in

> > May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information would be

> > most welcomed.

> >

> > Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun

> > surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet sites

> > for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.

> > During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover regarding

> > g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these

> > cities in the future.

> >

> > If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Sue

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hiya - was in Rome in November. Rome was a little difficult, but we

brought a loaf of bread with us, it was the first week. Florence was

much better, they even have restaurants where you can get gluten free

pasta. Lots of places understood sin glutine or no fromenta.

I think though, next time we go to Italy, we'd rent an apartment.

We'd just have an easier time making sandwiches, buying salad and

roasted chicken. Having to eat dinners out was expensive.

Paris was great, I think you'll have no problem. Lots of health food

stores with good gluten free products.

Can't speak for London. Have a fabulous time.

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>

> Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so, do

you

> have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in these

> cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these

cities in

> May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information

would be

> most welcomed.

>

> Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much fun

> surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac internet

sites

> for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f food.

> During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover

regarding

> g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to these

> cities in the future.

>

> If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from you!

> Thanks!

>

> Sue

>

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Have you seen these printable celiac cards in 37 languages?

http://www.celiactravel.com/restaurant-cards.html

Look at the English one to see what they say. Looks really helpful.

Cheers,

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> > >

> > > Has anyone recently traveled to Rome, Paris or London? If so,

do you

> > > have any recommendations of which restaurants and/or stores in

these

> > > cities that provide g-f food? We are planning to go to these

cities in

> > > May (compliments of our darling daughter!) and any information

would be

> > > most welcomed.

> > >

> > > Planning our trip has been fun, but I have been having as much

fun

> > > surfing the web and searching travel archives in celiac

internet sites

> > > for information on restaurants in these cities that serve g-f

food.

> > > During our trip, I plan on making notes about what I discover

regarding

> > > g-f food so I can share with others who might be traveling to

these

> > > cities in the future.

> > >

> > > If anyone has any info, I sure would appreciate hearing from

you!

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Sue

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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