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nne,

Could you explain why cadmium would increase in the hair analysis,

after chelation? Wouldnt that be a good thing showing that chelation

was getting rid of the cadmium even though I thought none of the

chelators move cadmium around? Also why would increasing the urine ph

stop the cadmium from being deposited in the kidneys.

Sorry , never heard anyone mention this before,

~

>

> Listmates,

>

> My son Jack has high cadmium reading on his hair analysis after

> years of chelation. Andy suggests alkalinizing the urine during the

> chelation cycle to ph 7 or greater so that cadmium is not displaced

> into the kidneys. I did check Jack's ph of his urine during this

> past chelation cycle and it was under ph 7. I did alkanize his

> urine so that urine was ph 8 or greater. I think this is important

> so that you are not creating a problem w/ cadmium while improving

> other toxicities.

>

> nne

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AAron,

Andy explains this in his new book but not in detail. He states

that " Hair cadmium levels accurately reflect body burden in the

presence of orderly mineral transport. " After 3 yrs of chelation my

son did have orderly mineral transport on the hair test by the

cadmium was in the red. On another page he write, " when i refer to

alkalinizing the urine I mean to give baking soda...supplement until

the ph is 8 or more..... The thiol based chelators will drop off

some of the metals in the kidneys if the urine is to acid. " --

on another page he write in summary. Cadmium is difficult to clear

but DMSA is appropriate, but be sure the urine is alkalinized

greater than ph7 or what chelation results in is a transfer of

cadmium from parts of the body where it does not cause problems into

the kidneys.

This last chelation cycle. I did test my sons ph of his urine w/a

pool strip and it was under ph7 and I gave him some diluted baking

soda, not much, and it went to ph 8. I will be getting some DMSA and

see if Jack improves. This last year I have been chelating w/ ALA

alone. Honestly, I did not think much of the high Cadmium until I

read this.

nne

>

> nne,

>

> Could you explain why cadmium would increase in the hair analysis,

> after chelation? Wouldnt that be a good thing showing that

chelation

> was getting rid of the cadmium even though I thought none of the

> chelators move cadmium around? Also why would increasing the urine

ph

> stop the cadmium from being deposited in the kidneys.

>

> Sorry , never heard anyone mention this before,

>

> ~

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Listmates,

> >

> > My son Jack has high cadmium reading on his hair analysis after

> > years of chelation. Andy suggests alkalinizing the urine during

the

> > chelation cycle to ph 7 or greater so that cadmium is not

displaced

> > into the kidneys. I did check Jack's ph of his urine during

this

> > past chelation cycle and it was under ph 7. I did alkanize his

> > urine so that urine was ph 8 or greater. I think this is

important

> > so that you are not creating a problem w/ cadmium while

improving

> > other toxicities.

> >

> > nne

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nne,

Thanks very much for the info. I will definitely add in the baking

soda. During my first chelation round I had a scare that my kidneys

were doing something funny and I did alot of research about kidney

disease... not something I want to take a chance with. About how

much baking soda did you give your son? You say andy has a new book,

how much of the info is new, and whats it called? How did I miss

this? I have " Amalgam illness: Diagnosis and Treatment... " , is this

the new book you are talking about?

Also were your son's cadmium hair levels high when you first had him

tested?

Thanks for the response

~

> > >

> > > Listmates,

> > >

> > > My son Jack has high cadmium reading on his hair analysis

after

> > > years of chelation. Andy suggests alkalinizing the urine

during

> the

> > > chelation cycle to ph 7 or greater so that cadmium is not

> displaced

> > > into the kidneys. I did check Jack's ph of his urine during

> this

> > > past chelation cycle and it was under ph 7. I did alkanize

his

> > > urine so that urine was ph 8 or greater. I think this is

> important

> > > so that you are not creating a problem w/ cadmium while

> improving

> > > other toxicities.

> > >

> > > nne

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The new book is called, " Hair test interpretation:Finding hidden

toxicities " I like it because you can look at your hair test and

evaluate it with the book.

I did not start chelation w/ the hair test but my son has responded

well to chelation aside from gut bugs.

I only gave him 1/8 tsp and dissolved in tsp of water and gave a tsp

and used a pool strip to test. Jacks urine was getting very dark

when I was chelating him recently.

nne

-- In , " aaronerez " <aaronerez@h...>

wrote:

>

> nne,

>

> Thanks very much for the info. I will definitely add in the baking

> soda. During my first chelation round I had a scare that my

kidneys

> were doing something funny and I did alot of research about kidney

> disease... not something I want to take a chance with. About how

> much baking soda did you give your son? You say andy has a new

book,

> how much of the info is new, and whats it called? How did I miss

> this? I have " Amalgam illness: Diagnosis and Treatment... " , is

this

> the new book you are talking about?

>

> Also were your son's cadmium hair levels high when you first had

him

> tested?

>

>

> Thanks for the response

> ~

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Listmates,

> > > >

> > > > My son Jack has high cadmium reading on his hair analysis

> after

> > > > years of chelation. Andy suggests alkalinizing the urine

> during

> > the

> > > > chelation cycle to ph 7 or greater so that cadmium is not

> > displaced

> > > > into the kidneys. I did check Jack's ph of his urine during

> > this

> > > > past chelation cycle and it was under ph 7. I did alkanize

> his

> > > > urine so that urine was ph 8 or greater. I think this is

> > important

> > > > so that you are not creating a problem w/ cadmium while

> > improving

> > > > other toxicities.

> > > >

> > > > nne

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