Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Does anyone use piracetam? I did some research on internet, it looks pretty promising even too promising... I'm not sure. Any side effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I used for my son and I saw improvements in his awareness. It is sold under the name Nootropil or Oxybral > > Does anyone use piracetam? > I did some research on internet, it looks pretty promising > even too promising... I'm not sure. Any side effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 There was no effect on his sleep. He started to utter sounds, tried to grab things, when you look into his eyes you notice he is better. You will also see obvious regression if you stop using Piracetam! Oxybral is best. I used to buy it from Eygpt, but I haven't been able to find it lately. If you find it please let me know. I am trying new therapy of Honey and Garlic. I found a site in Qatar that is selling this. They claim they can cure Cerebral Palsy and other serious illnesses like Parkinson. They even show a video of a CP child that was able to walk within 7 monthes of treatment. The web site is http://www.al-deera.com. It is in Arabic. The video link is http://www.al-deera.com/page1/video/ill.rm but the quality is very low. This is my e-mail nazirbashir@... Good luck Nazir > > > > > > Does anyone use piracetam? > > > I did some research on internet, it looks pretty promising > > > even too promising... I'm not sure. Any side effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 You can obtain Piracetam from Beyond A Century: www.beyond-a-century.com http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Neurological.html#4100 I read a post from Dr. McCandless who explained that Piracetam is very safe, and the original nootropic. Here's the description from the Beyond A Century site: PIRACETAM (2-oxo-pyrrolidine acetamide), the original European nootropic now available in low-cost powder. It has been said to safely enhance, protect, & optimize memory and learning in normal individuals. Some say optimum dose is 2400mg 2x/day for one month, 1200mg 2x/day thereafter, others suggest 100mg/kg of body weight/day. 300g powder $8.90. Code 410.0 I spoke to a pharmacist who said that it took a while to work, but that it offered slow and steady progress for children. This pharmacist had nothing to gain from telling me that, because the company he currently works for only sells its own brand of supplements. At 08:08 AM 1/6/2005 +0000, you wrote: >There was no effect on his sleep. He started to utter sounds, tried >to grab things, when you look into his eyes you notice he is >better. You will also see obvious regression if you stop using >Piracetam! Oxybral is best. I used to buy it from Eygpt, but I >haven't been able to find it lately. If you find it please let me >know. I am trying new therapy of Honey and Garlic. I found a site >in Qatar that is selling this. They claim they can cure Cerebral >Palsy and other serious illnesses like Parkinson. They even show a >video of a CP child that was able to walk within 7 monthes of >treatment. The web site is ><http://www.al-deera.com.>http://www.al-deera.com. It is in >Arabic. The video link is ><http://www.al-deera.com/page1/video/ill.rm>http://www.al-deera.com/page1/video\ /ill.rm >but the quality is very >low. >This is my e-mail nazirbashir@... > >Good luck >Nazir > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone use piracetam? > > > > I did some research on internet, it looks pretty promising > > > > even too promising... I'm not sure. Any side effects? > > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hi Janice, I saw that you give piracetam as a supplement to your son, my nutrionist has also ordered this for my son, I am looking for more information on this product, where did you buy this from? and how has it helped your son, Did you see a difference after your son started this.. Also what kind of exercises or therapies does your son get for fine motor skills thanks, roopa ________________________________ From: Janice <jscott@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:19:32 PM Subject: Re: [ ] McCarthy , you are too funny! Thanks for my morning chuckle. I sure needed it today! I yelled at Mark today for losing his school binder and I feel awful. I did exactly what I 'wasn't' supposed to do....bawl him out! What I am supposed to do is to create 'consequences' but I forgot until after he left for school..... That is on my NACD program and I forgot.... shoot! GUILT, GUILT, GUILT! That is what we have issues with mostly now-a-days.. .. organization and attention to the 'small' things in life. Patching his right eye while practicing fine motor skills is working beyond my wildest dreams (along with supplementing with piracetam) and his writing skills are almost normalized now. AMAZING.... one silly eye issue plus a LOT of muscle work has really gotten this issue tackled for him. I notice that he still has some visual discrimination issues.... trouble seeing outlines... and I think that I will research this a little since it may be the key to getting his organizational abilities up to par. So...one BIG issue conquored... . and one 'little one' to go! I am continuing with pleoptics to stimulate his central detail vision but I confess that this is an exercise that I often forget to do.... I'll have to put it up higher on to my radar screen. That's how you heal dyspraxia... . tackling one developmental issue at a time or many little developmental issues at a a time. But you CAN tackle these things and succeed; you just need to decide to do the research on your child and try to figure out 'why' they cannot do things.... you need to look straight to the root of the senses that are not working (for us right now it is the eyes) and then figure out how to stimulate that neural pathway. I think that I just want to say that there are many in the autistic adult community that are just so darn frustrated with therapy that doesn't work, with people trying to 'change' them that I completely 'get' where they are coming from. But today, we have a new generation and a whole host of new therapy, biomedical and medical techniques at our disposal. Our kids are not adults; they are still just kids and their mindset; who they think they are and how they feel about themselves is just developing. When I went with the 'system' techniques and before I learned that many of my son's issues were actually medical... well, he was a pretty depressed and defeated little boy. He had given up. So had I. We were just 'existing' with dyspraxia and we were not challenging dyspraxia... so my boy never got better. He didn't improve and would not have improved had I not changed my approach when he was 11. Changing the way we see dyspraxia... . as an ailment to be fought; as a medical condition that can be alleviated via healing.... well, this changed how he saw himself. He was able to separate his personal identity from that of dyspraxia. Today, Dyspraxia is something he " HAS " not something he " IS " . This may not seem like a huge differentiation but really... in terms of our personal identity.... it is enormous! This change in mindset; the idea that when he works hard, he defeats dyspraxia has given him the courage to fight. Because he has seen results and his life has changed tremendously after starting to fight back.... I don't believe that he'll ever stop fighting. He's made a personal decision not to let dyspraxia rule; he's made the decision to conquor it. Our kids need to be fighters. What they lack in physical strength, they need to develop in personal strength. They need to believe in themselves and in their ability to overcome whatever challenges are tossed their way. So.... how do I 'know' intrinsically that a lot of my child's issues are really medical with neurological outcomes? Because we have recovered most of his facilities, that's how. I used to belong to an adult dyspraxia board and I listened to the stories told by the many adults while doing home therapy every day. One by one, I read on while my son was conquoring the issues of complaint that the adults had. My boy was lucky. Via their stories and via my research, he had access to therapies that these adults did not have. In part because of them, he got better. They did reject me when I tried to tell them of our success and did not want to hear it..... I understand and I get why. I also know that as Mark ages, it gets harder and harder to change 'instilled' neurodevelopmental pathways. If all of those adults did the exact same therapies that Mark had done, they probably would not have achieved the same success. Their neurological issues are more 'hard-wired' . That is why you will see more stories of the really little kids.... aged between 2 and 6... achieve complete recovery while few of the older kids ever do. Today, while we are mostly healed.... Mark still has an 'imprint' of dyspraxia in his being. I believe that this is due to us having overcome these issues after he was so much older. I believe that the little ones, the toddlers and the young children.... have an even better prognosis. As we have rid ourselves of most of the 'physical' issues that define dyspraxia... what is left are the medical issues and that is a great part of my current focus. Mark's body is still ailing though he has overcome the neurological condition to a great extent. When he has a 'medical' relapse and his body is ailing, some of the neurological symptoms return. Thus, I know that I am on the right track here. His body lets me know. I clean up his body and the neurological symptoms go away. Do I think that dyspraxia is " completely " curable? I don't know. I'll let you know if we ever achieve it! BUT.... I must believe that it is. Of course, in order to achieve this, I must be able to completely heal my son's immune system and that includes auto-immune issues. That's a pretty tough one! However I must believe in my heart of hearts that we can overcome even this.... for this is what drives me and maybe..... in the end, I'll settle for recovery rather then an outright cure! The one thing that I do know now.... is that Mark, himself will never settle. He has made a personal decision that comes with maturity and understanding. .. he has decided to stand up and fight. And for that, I applaud him. I don't know where along the therapy stream that he developed this. I think that in some small way, it has always been part of him and at one point, he just really internalized it. The one thing that I notice about all apraxic/dyspraxic children is that they have this 'never-give- up' personal will. It is a beautiful part of their spirit. Okay.... rambling now! Janice Mother of Mark, 13 said, Well they didn't ask me. Do you know how hard it is to stem and rock when you are 8 months pregnant!!! (smile) From: jennyjudyaol (DOT) com <jennyjudyaol (DOT) com> Subject: Re: [childrensapraxiane t] McCarthy @groups. com Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 7:52 PM Autism is not curable, it just isn't. It is a part of who these kids are. Just like you cannot cure obsessive compulsive disorder or diabetes or many other conditions the therapies and bio medical interventions can make things a whole lot better. If you believe your child can be cured that is great, but autism is a complex neurological condition and it doesn't just go away. Many autistic adults have been asked if they would like their autism to be gone, they usually answer no. I hope some of my son's autistic tendencies get better, every day we see new improvement in one area or another, but there really is nothing to cure, he has autism and it is part of his being. The symptoms get better usually as they get older and other interventions also help. They may even improve so much no one ever knows that they have it. This is my belief. If others believe that their children have been cured congratulations. Jen ************ **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121277 4565x1200812037/ aol?redir= htt p://toolbar. aol.com/moviefon e/download. html?ncid= emlcntusdown0000 0001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Roopa, I have been using Piracetam for 3 + months and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. You can order it from www.piracetam.com or from http://www.antiaging-systems.com/ - It takes 2 weeks to get it from UK. I use the liquid form and love it. The pill form does not work as well for my son. Thanks, Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Would you please share some of the gains you have witnessed after starting the Piracetam... From: Colleen Somerville <colleen.somerville@...> Subject: RE: [ ] Piracetam Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 7:46 PM Roopa, I have been using Piracetam for 3 + months and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. You can order it from www.piracetam. com or from http://www.antiagin g-systems. com/ - It takes 2 weeks to get it from UK. I use the liquid form and love it. The pill form does not work as well for my son. Thanks, Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 , My gains have been nothing short of Amazing. Charlie has trucked right along with every intervention. Piracetam has taken him to the next level and made him NT. I also give with Phosphaline. Very important to have the two. As it does not work as well with out the Phosphaline. Charlie started to sing on it, began to Army crawl 2 weeks after being on the liquid. Okay, this kid could not army crawl, and our neurodevelommental inhome therapy program said he had to establish a pattern. So he did on piracetam. He lost the " apraxic " tendencies, dropping off endings of words and articulation. Started to consistantly say who, where, what when. It has been the most truly happy time since I learned about Apraxia. Please remember, I have detoxed yeast, viral detox and chelated metals prior to piracetam. If you are interested you should consult wtih Dorfman www.kellydorfman.com Thanks, Colleen Mother of Charlie 3 years RE: [ ] Piracetam <mailto: %40> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 7:46 PM Roopa, I have been using Piracetam for 3 + months and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. You can order it from www.piracetam. com or from http://www.antiagin g-systems. com/ - It takes 2 weeks to get it from UK. I use the liquid form and love it. The pill form does not work as well for my son. Thanks, Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Where do you get the Phosphaline? How much of each do you give? How much of each would I give an 8 year old? Thanks, Kristy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 www.villagegreenapothacary.com I give 1tsp daily of liquid Phosphaline by XYMOGEN. My son is 3 and weighs 33 lbs. Probably 1tsp is okay. 5415 W Cedar Ln # 102B Bethesda, MD 20814 (301) 530-0800 Colleen Re: [ ] Piracetam Where do you get the Phosphaline? How much of each do you give? How much of each would I give an 8 year old? Thanks, Kristy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hi- Can you explain to me what this is and what it is supposed to help? I have a son with severe apraxia and I give him fish oil. -- RE: [ ] Piracetam <mailto: %40> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 7:46 PM Roopa, I have been using Piracetam for 3 + months and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. You can order it from www.piracetam. com or from http://www.antiagin g-systems. com/ - It takes 2 weeks to get it from UK. I use the liquid form and love it. The pill form does not work as well for my son. Thanks, Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I give XYMOGEN for my son too , we started it last year when he was 4 , with 1/2 tbsp, and gradually have increased to 1. thanks, roopa ________________________________ From: Colleen Somerville <colleen.somerville@...> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:04:30 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Piracetam www.villagegreenapo thacary.com I give 1tsp daily of liquid Phosphaline by XYMOGEN. My son is 3 and weighs 33 lbs. Probably 1tsp is okay. 5415 W Cedar Ln # 102B Bethesda, MD 20814 (301) 530-0800 Colleen Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Piracetam Where do you get the Phosphaline? How much of each do you give? How much of each would I give an 8 year old? Thanks, Kristy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 My developmental ped also recommend Piracetam with Phospholine. I bought liquid form for both.  Phospholine tastes and smells like gasoline. I have tried putting it in apple sauce, honey, syrup, orange juice with success. My son would not take it.   How do people give to their young children?   thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Piracetam helps move sugar and oxygen to the brain. RE: [ ] Piracetam Hi- Can you explain to me what this is and what it is supposed to help? I have a son with severe apraxia and I give him fish oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 We draw it up in a syrenge (sp) and also draw up some juice and shoot it in his mouth. He is a champ! [ ] Re: Piracetam My developmental ped also recommend Piracetam with Phospholine. I bought liquid form for both. Phospholine tastes and smells like gasoline. I have tried putting it in apple sauce, honey, syrup, orange juice with success. My son would not take it. How do people give to their young children? thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 CORRECTION:  The dosing says 4.8g (6 x 4ml doses) daily for the first few weeks then decrease to 2.4g (3 x 4ml doses) daily. It should be taken in 2 to 3 doses. I just want to correct that I didn't mean high doses as in take a lot; i meant it as in you start off taking more in the beginning.  " a common starting dose is 3 - 800mg tablets 2x a day " so that's 2400 mg 2x day.  After reading some earlier postings from last month, I decided to go with the 2.4g dosage as my " high dose " . My daughter is 8 and 55 lbs.  I'm going to continue to keep a close watch but she doesn't seem to have aheadache or be uncomfortable. as for the taste, I can't describe it ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I just spoke with my homeopath who originally suggested that I try piracetam because it looked like a promsing supplement. She recommends the current dosage that I'm doing BUT I just found out I'm one of her first patients using it!?!?!?!?  I'm going to play it safe and decrease the dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I mix confectioner sugar in with the applesauce and she doesn't complain anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Sorry, but I obviously was spacing out. I mix the confectioner sugar with my daughter's Phosphacholine (sp?), not the piracetam. She doesn't have any trouble taking the piracetam. Maddie's been taking piracetam for about a month now. Her nutritionist had us start with a low dose, just because I was nervous, but now we're up to 6 mls. She been taking 6 mls for about two weeks. I can't say we've necessarily seen a change yet, but at school they have seen less frustration, and more of her happy self. Her nutritionist has seen great results in other clients from the piracetam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Obviously I'm trying to rush my reply. I forgot to mention that my daughter who takes 6 mls of piracetam is 6.7 years old and is 47 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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