Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Personally, I never get sick of accountability. ;-) > > > I hope you are not all getting sick of my daily posting...I'm trying > to use it as acountability...I'm sure I'll stop at some point...lol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Sara And, that's the miracle of Magnesium with a bit of help from B6.... Hope your progress continues. mjh In a message dated 1/23/2006 1:06:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, mercuria@... writes: Soooo.....I've finally gotten started with the sequence of methylation-improvement supplements Rich suggested for me. The first order of business was to spend a week taking p5p/magnesium, to set the stage. I'm four days into this week; and so far, I'm pretty impressed. I'm taking 100 php/200 mag in the morning, same dose again at night. (I'm also taking a twice-a-day multi that probably supplies a bit more of both non-p5p B6, and magnesium as well.) What I'm noticing so far is a deep relaxation of the muscles around my bones, and a sense that my bones themselves are just happier and more comfortable. Not that I'd ever thought of these areas as painful -- I hadn't -- but there was evidently a low level of tension there that wasn't even noticeable until it went away. Probably because of this, I'm also sleeping a bit more efficiently. And then this morning, I did about 20 minutes of yoga. Usually, this is just about enough to make my joints and muscles a little creaky and sore for the next 36 hours or so. You know -- payback. But this time, I went and lay down for 20 minutes after my stretches -- and then bounced right up, feeling no pain at all. My joints were happy and loose, and stayed that way all day! NO PAYBACK! Wow!!! And that's just the first of half a dozen supplements I'm going to be adding over the next few months. (Next week: Taurine.) Thanks, Rich. This was one nice addition to my pill pile. Sara mjh " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and it really makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and numbness. Also I slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next couple of nights and still tingly but much less. Still kept me awake. Is this a signal that my body can't tolerate the P-5-P do you think? Do you think I should persevere but earlier in the day? Barbara From: foxhillers@... Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Day Four Sara And, that's the miracle of Magnesium with a bit of help from B6.... Hope your progress continues. mjh In a message dated 1/23/2006 1:06:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, mercuria@... writes: Soooo.....I've finally gotten started with the sequence of methylation-improvement supplements Rich suggested for me. The first order of business was to spend a week taking p5p/magnesium, to set the stage. I'm four days into this week; and so far, I'm pretty impressed. I'm taking 100 php/200 mag in the morning, same dose again at night. (I'm also taking a twice-a-day multi that probably supplies a bit more of both non-p5p B6, and magnesium as well.) What I'm noticing so far is a deep relaxation of the muscles around my bones, and a sense that my bones themselves are just happier and more comfortable. Not that I'd ever thought of these areas as painful -- I hadn't -- but there was evidently a low level of tension there that wasn't even noticeable until it went away. Probably because of this, I'm also sleeping a bit more efficiently. And then this morning, I did about 20 minutes of yoga. Usually, this is just about enough to make my joints and muscles a little creaky and sore for the next 36 hours or so. You know -- payback. But this time, I went and lay down for 20 minutes after my stretches -- and then bounced right up, feeling no pain at all. My joints were happy and loose, and stayed that way all day! NO PAYBACK! Wow!!! And that's just the first of half a dozen supplements I'm going to be adding over the next few months. (Next week: Taurine.) Thanks, Rich. This was one nice addition to my pill pile. Sara mjh " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Thanks Nil - I'll try that. From: yildiz Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Day Four I read that b6 should be taken in the morning. It was said that it might interfere with sleep. Also it might be good idea to split your magnesium dosage into at least two. best wishes nil Re: Day Four > I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and it really > makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and numbness. Also I > slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next couple of nights and still > tingly but much less. Still kept me awake. Is this a signal that my body > can't tolerate the P-5-P do you think? Do you think I should persevere but > earlier in the day? > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I read that b6 should be taken in the morning. It was said that it might interfere with sleep. Also it might be good idea to split your magnesium dosage into at least two. best wishes nil Re: Day Four > I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and it really > makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and numbness. Also I > slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next couple of nights and still > tingly but much less. Still kept me awake. Is this a signal that my body > can't tolerate the P-5-P do you think? Do you think I should persevere but > earlier in the day? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Barbara This tingling is a known side effect of B6 when too high. You might want to try it early in the day only. BOth my late son and I took B-100 plus B6 100 mg three times a day for years without experiencing the tingling, so that dose of about 600 mg of B6 plus Magnesium was not too much for our bodies. Just another perspective for you to ponder. mjh In a message dated 1/26/2006 8:39:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, brfifield@... writes: > I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and it really makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and numbness. Also I slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next couple of nights and still tingly but much less. Still kept me awake. Is this a signal that my body can't tolerate the P-5-P do you think? Do you think I should persevere but earlier in the day? > > Barbara mjh " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hi, Sara. This is really good to hear! Thanks for letting us know. So, relaxed muscles, happy bones and loose joints, huh? Sounds like connective tissue heaven! I hope this progress continues. Please keep us posted. Rich > > Soooo.....I've finally gotten started with the sequence of > methylation-improvement supplements Rich suggested for me. The first > order of business was to spend a week taking p5p/magnesium, to set > the stage. > > I'm four days into this week; and so far, I'm pretty impressed. > > I'm taking 100 php/200 mag in the morning, same dose again at night. > (I'm also taking a twice-a-day multi that probably supplies a bit > more of both non-p5p B6, and magnesium as well.) What I'm noticing so > far is a deep relaxation of the muscles around my bones, and a sense > that my bones themselves are just happier and more comfortable. Not > that I'd ever thought of these areas as painful -- I hadn't -- but > there was evidently a low level of tension there that wasn't even > noticeable until it went away. > > Probably because of this, I'm also sleeping a bit more efficiently. > > And then this morning, I did about 20 minutes of yoga. Usually, this > is just about enough to make my joints and muscles a little creaky > and sore for the next 36 hours or so. You know -- payback. But this > time, I went and lay down for 20 minutes after my stretches -- and > then bounced right up, feeling no pain at all. My joints were happy > and loose, and stayed that way all day! NO PAYBACK! Wow!!! > > And that's just the first of half a dozen supplements I'm going to be > adding over the next few months. (Next week: Taurine.) > > Thanks, Rich. This was one nice addition to my pill pile. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hi, Barbara. I would suggest that you stop the P-5-P and take ordinary vitamin B6 instead, and see how that goes. It may be that you don't need the active form of B6, and in fact can't tolerate it. Every one of us is different from each other in one way or another. The Pangborn and Baker book says, " Discontinue it if adverse effects are seen. " I'd say that what you described is an adverse effect. Rich > > I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and it really makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and numbness. Also I slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next couple of nights and still tingly but much less. Still kept me awake. Is this a signal that my body can't tolerate the P-5-P do you think? Do you think I should persevere but earlier in the day? > > Barbara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In a message dated 1/26/2006 11:09:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, mercuria@... writes: On Jan 26, 2006, at 5:44 AM, foxhillers@... wrote: > This tingling is a known side effect of B6 when too high. > > You might want to try it early in the day only. Good point. Since I started the Day Four thread, I've moved *all* my daily p5p/mag intake to the morning. I found it was keeping me up at night -- another common side effect of B6 that I'd forgotten. Sara Sara You might want to fine tune even further in that Magnesium helps the body's muscles relax and hence helps sleep. I do not think both B6 and Mg need to be taken simultaneously, but that enough is in the body to provoke the necessary reactions. mjh " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Thanks Rich, I'll add regular B6 to the latest shopping list and try that. Barbara From: rvankonynen Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: Re: Day Four Hi, Barbara. I would suggest that you stop the P-5-P and take ordinary vitamin B6 instead, and see how that goes. It may be that you don't need the active form of B6, and in fact can't tolerate it. Every one of us is different from each other in one way or another. The Pangborn and Baker book says, " Discontinue it if adverse effects are seen. " I'd say that what you described is an adverse effect. Rich > > I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and it really makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and numbness. Also I slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next couple of nights and still tingly but much less. Still kept me awake. Is this a signal that my body can't tolerate the P-5-P do you think? Do you think I should persevere but earlier in the day? > > Barbara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 On Jan 26, 2006, at 5:44 AM, foxhillers@... wrote: > This tingling is a known side effect of B6 when too high. > > You might want to try it early in the day only. Good point. Since I started the Day Four thread, I've moved *all* my daily p5p/mag intake to the morning. I found it was keeping me up at night -- another common side effect of B6 that I'd forgotten. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I've read that increasing B6 can cause leg cramps, but so also can lowering B6 cause leg cramps. Seems disparate, but the problem is in the " change " itself? (And the suggested solution I read was to do the opposite -- lower temporarily if wanting to raise ultimately, or raise temporarily if wanting to lower ultimately.) Or perhaps this cramping thing is not related to tingling, etc, in the legs? > > > > Barbara > > This tingling is a known side effect of B6 when too high. > > You might want to try it early in the day only. > > BOth my late son and I took B-100 plus B6 100 mg three times a day for years > without experiencing the tingling, so that dose of about 600 mg of B6 plus > Magnesium was not too much for our bodies. > > Just another perspective for you to ponder. > > mjh > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 8:39:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, > brfifield@r... writes: > > > I've tried B6 ( 50 mg P-5-P) with 450 mg magnesium at night and > it really makes my lower legs and feet tingly, pins and needles and > numbness. Also I slept poorly. Backed off to 25 mg. for the next > couple of nights and still tingly but much less. Still kept me > awake. Is this a signal that my body can't tolerate the P-5-P do you > think? Do you think I should persevere but earlier in the day? > > > > Barbara > > > > > > mjh > " The Basil Book " > http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Day Four I've read that increasing B6 can cause leg cramps, but so also can lowering B6 cause leg cramps. Seems disparate, but the problem is in the " change " itself? (And the suggested solution I read was to do the opposite -- lower temporarily if wanting to raise ultimately, or raise temporarily if wanting to lower ultimately.) Or perhaps this cramping thing is not related to tingling, etc, in the legs? wrote: > > > , I've used high dose B6 to treat carpal tunnel syndrome, ulnar neuropathy, bursitis without negative effect...no tingling or cramps. Mel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 well, alex is in his docband! it's been four days since we drove up to charlotte to pick it up and so far it's been great. it's not sliding on his face like the starband did and he seems comfy and happy in it. no angry red marks whatsoever. it doesn't look as cute as the starband did, but the fit is the important part, right!?! we do have one problem. his little brother (by one minute), max, likes the docband. a lot. he keeps grabbing alex's head and trying to eat the " peaks. " any ideas how to prevent this? i'm not sure how to upload pictures, but if you want to see alex in his docband, here he is! http://shootingallens.blogspot.com/2009/01/compare-and-contrast.html and here's a picture of him in the ill-fitting starband. http://shootingallens.blogspot.com/2008/12/i-dont-know-what-to-do.html again, a disclaimer!! i don't think the starband is a bad product at all†" please don't think that!! we just never could get it to fit properly on alex's funny head. holly mum to twin boys alex (4 days in the docband) and max (no helmet necessary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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