Re: question

September 17, 2000

Hi. I think that many of us have neglected to go to the Doctor

BECAUSE of our weight. It is really embarrassing to go just to have

them tell you something that you already know, that you need to loose

weight. As far as insurance approval, it really depends on your

insurance company requirements. Mine, for instance, requires that you

have at least two medically supervised weight-loss programs in the

last five years. This could also include some of the weight-loss

places such as Nutri-system, etc. If your doctor had in his records

last July that you talked with him about dieting and he told you to

follow a diet program on your own, that should count, too. If all

else fails, you could join one of those " programs " or have you doctor

weigh you once a week if it is convenient so that you will have some

records showing your effort to diet. I wish you luck on your approval.

Stormy

> Hi all,

>

> I have never really been under a doctor's care to lose

weight. Everything I have done I have done on my own. I have had

doctors tell me I needed to lose weight, but no one ever offered to

help, until very recently. In July my new doctor said he would leave

me on my own to try my diet and exercise program because my blood

pressure is borderline high. I have not lost one iota of weight, and

I go to see him next month.

>

> I was wondering if it will really hurt my chances of being

approved for this surgery if I never had a doctor help me lose the

weight. Just wondering..

>

> Thanks- Deb

>

> ---------------------------------------------------

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October 2, 2000

I have been researching this surgery for about 6 months. Yesterday I

e-mailed my info to the good Dr. R. How long will it be before I

hear something? After reading everyones posts, I can hardly wait.

Now the question: What is the difference between and Durham? I

keep seeing references to this. I am 36 and my weight is 249#. Does

this mean I could get sameday or something? Please fill me it. Also,

I have all ready started typing my patient letter. It is almost 10

pages long all ready. I keep seeing postings that say their letters

were not accepted. Can anyone give me any input? You guys are

great! I have realy enjoy reading everyones posts!! Waiting for the

Dance!!

Thanks

(Tired of Being Obese in Ohio!)

> The weight limit for .

>

> Re: question to Dr. R

>

> Okay, whats over 300 not 250??

> Im confused!

> Trudy

> question to Dr. R

>

> > Dr. R,

> > Just some clarification please on Durham vs. . When I met

you at

> > clinic, I asked about Durham vs. and you didn't seem to

have a

> > preference. Since I'm a self-pay I preferred as it seems

to

> > have been less expensive for most and because they will put a

bed in

> > the room for my mother so she doesn't have to sleep alone at

the

> > hotel that night. Barbara told me this morning that I don't

meet the

> > criteria for because I'm over 40 (47) and over 250 lbs

(270).

> > It seems like I met several people while there who were my age

and

> > had it at . I certainly want to go where you think is

best. I

> > just want to be sure won't work for me. Can you clarify

please?

> > Thanks

> >

October 2, 2000

Hi :

The difference between and Durham, is is an offsite

ambulatory surgical center. They can handle limited overnight

patients, but have a very limited staff. is offered only for

self-pay patients, who meet certain criteria. I'm not sure of the

criteria. Their upfront cost is about $4,000.00 less than DRH.

Durham is Durham Regional Hospital, which is about a block from

. That is where all the other surgeries occur. If you have

insurance coverage, your surgery will be at Durham, from what I can

understand. Both places have great care. I couldn't have been more

pleased or more cared for at , so that's my reference point.

Regarding the patient letter...The way they want it is to take each

heading from the patient manual in the letter section, and have a

thorough discussion of each heading, to amount to at least one page

for each heading. If the discussion doesn't cover all the material

for the heading, Dr. R. will reject the letter. The reason for this

is he wants to be absolutely positively sure that you (each of us)

understand exactly what we are getting into, and by showing a

discussion on the good, the bad and the ugle, he feels fairly sure we

have a least a fair working knowledge of the information. This is

very serious surgery. and I for one, appreciate the education

requirement. I've never seen a surgeon or any physician for that

matter, cover patient education as thoroughly.

IMHO

ebbieday

MGB 9/14/00

:-)

> > The weight limit for .

> >

> > Re: question to Dr. R

> >

> > Okay, whats over 300 not 250??

> > Im confused!

> > Trudy

> > question to Dr. R

> >

> > > Dr. R,

> > > Just some clarification please on Durham vs. . When I

met

> you at

> > > clinic, I asked about Durham vs. and you didn't seem to

> have a

> > > preference. Since I'm a self-pay I preferred as it

seems

> to

> > > have been less expensive for most and because they will put a

> bed in

> > > the room for my mother so she doesn't have to sleep alone at

> the

> > > hotel that night. Barbara told me this morning that I don't

> meet the

> > > criteria for because I'm over 40 (47) and over 250 lbs

> (270).

> > > It seems like I met several people while there who were my

age

> and

> > > had it at . I certainly want to go where you think is

> best. I

> > > just want to be sure won't work for me. Can you clarify

> please?

> > > Thanks

> > >

October 2, 2000

Thanks for getting back to me sooo soon. I hope I'm not self pay but

if it comes to that I will try to use the info. I still need a few

contacts. Would you be interested? How are you doing since your MGB?

I am thinking of going back to work 10 days post op. What do you

think?

> > > The weight limit for .

> > >

> > > Re: question to Dr. R

> > >

> > > Okay, whats over 300 not 250??

> > > Im confused!

> > > Trudy

> > > question to Dr. R

> > >

> > > > Dr. R,

> > > > Just some clarification please on Durham vs. . When I

> met

> > you at

> > > > clinic, I asked about Durham vs. and you didn't seem

to

> > have a

> > > > preference. Since I'm a self-pay I preferred as it

> seems

> > to

> > > > have been less expensive for most and because they will put

a

> > bed in

> > > > the room for my mother so she doesn't have to sleep alone

at

> > the

> > > > hotel that night. Barbara told me this morning that I don't

> > meet the

> > > > criteria for because I'm over 40 (47) and over 250

lbs

> > (270).

> > > > It seems like I met several people while there who were my

> age

> > and

> > > > had it at . I certainly want to go where you think is

> > best. I

> > > > just want to be sure won't work for me. Can you

clarify

> > please?

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

October 2, 2000

-- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com, " Tired of Being Obese in Ohio

- BMI 42 " <alivingston2000@y...> wrote:

> I have been researching this surgery for about 6 months. Yesterday

I

> e-mailed my info to the good Dr. R. How long will it be before I

> hear something? After reading everyones posts, I can hardly wait.

> Now the question: What is the difference between and Durham?

I

> keep seeing references to this. I am 36 and my weight is 249#. Does

> this mean I could get sameday or something? Please fill me it.

Also,

> I have all ready started typing my patient letter. It is almost 10

> pages long all ready. I keep seeing postings that say their

letters

> were not accepted. Can anyone give me any input? You guys are

> great! I have realy enjoy reading everyones posts!! Waiting for the

> Dance!!

> Thanks

>

> (Tired of Being Obese in Ohio!)

Hi ,

I am 36 and from the Columbus area and 12 days post -op. Email me

privately if you have any questions. I'll be glad to be a contact

for

you.

Laurie

9/20/00

319/295/150

> > The weight limit for .

> s group, send an email to:

> > MiniGastricBypass-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com

October 2, 2000

email me privately...I'll be happy to be a contact for you.

ebbieday

dwade303 * aol.com

> > > > The weight limit for .

> > > >

> > > > Re: question to Dr. R

> > > >

> > > > Okay, whats over 300 not 250??

> > > > Im confused!

> > > > Trudy

> > > > question to Dr. R

> > > >

> > > > > Dr. R,

> > > > > Just some clarification please on Durham vs. . When

I

> > met

> > > you at

> > > > > clinic, I asked about Durham vs. and you didn't

seem

> to

> > > have a

> > > > > preference. Since I'm a self-pay I preferred as it

> > seems

> > > to

> > > > > have been less expensive for most and because they will

put

> a

> > > bed in

> > > > > the room for my mother so she doesn't have to sleep alone

> at

> > > the

> > > > > hotel that night. Barbara told me this morning that I

don't

> > > meet the

> > > > > criteria for because I'm over 40 (47) and over 250

> lbs

> > > (270).

> > > > > It seems like I met several people while there who were

my

> > age

> > > and

> > > > > had it at . I certainly want to go where you think

is

> > > best. I

> > > > > just want to be sure won't work for me. Can you

> clarify

> > > please?

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

October 2, 2000

Dear Eddie, I couldn't agree with you more about the patient letter, except I am

having a very hard time writing one! I looked over the sample letter and just

changed a few words and personalized it to me... will that work. If I just

write, I constantly get off the subject and babble.. HelP!!

Trudy in Indiana

Pre op

335, BMI=61

question to Dr. R

> >

> > > Dr. R,

> > > Just some clarification please on Durham vs. . When I

met

> you at

> > > clinic, I asked about Durham vs. and you didn't seem to

> have a

> > > preference. Since I'm a self-pay I preferred as it

seems

> to

> > > have been less expensive for most and because they will put a

> bed in

> > > the room for my mother so she doesn't have to sleep alone at

> the

> > > hotel that night. Barbara told me this morning that I don't

> meet the

> > > criteria for because I'm over 40 (47) and over 250 lbs

> (270).

> > > It seems like I met several people while there who were my

age

> and

> > > had it at . I certainly want to go where you think is

> best. I

> > > just want to be sure won't work for me. Can you clarify

> please?

> > > Thanks

> > >

October 6, 2000

Denial is gone . It happens to most of us. We didn't think we were " that

bad " for so long and once we actually see that the only solution we can truly

get for the long haul is surgery...well we feel very very fat. And we are very

very fat. The key is that we're clever as hell because we are solving our

problem and not just whining about it....pat yourself on the back. You're clever

as hell too. You landed here with us fat folks and we'll carry you right along

with us!

Flo in land

> ** Original Subject: RE: Question

> ** >

> ** Original Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:13:15 -0600

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Why is it that since I've been researching and finally got my packet

> sent in that I feel like the " fattest " person on earth.......

>

October 6, 2000

I'm agreeing with Flo, my sister said the other day, (and she's my biggerst

supporter) that I had to reach rock-bottom to accept wls as an alternative for

loosing.. And she is so right.

Now, tho, that I'm on the bottom I really hate being fat! That should really

keep me motivated for the days ahead, especially post op when I'm feeling

blue.. Trudy

RE: Question

> ** >

> ** Original Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:13:15 -0600

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Why is it that since I've been researching and finally got my packet

> sent in that I feel like the " fattest " person on earth.......

>

October 6, 2000

,

don't worry I felt the same way. I suddenly realized that all the pain I

pushed to the side from being overweight was having to be dealt with. I was

totally not used to writing my inner feelings down or talking about them. It

was so much easier to ignore them. Just remember - It will all be over

soon!!! Stay positive and focused. Your " thin " person on the inside will be

out soon.

Terri K

MGB 10/12/00

May 13, 2002

--- mmjw3 wrote:

> Hello!

> I think I asked this before, but are any of you who

> are taking

> methotrexateexperiencing any amplification of

Hi, , no I don't have this problem but I do

seem to remember someone else saying something like

this was happening. Unfortunately I can't remember

who it was. Hopefully she is reading this!! Love Liz

>

__________________________________________________

May 13, 2002

Hi ,

I have been taking the metho now for about 10 months. I don't get

the heat and pain in my joints. That I had before I started on the

metho. I do get fatigue, upset stomach and loose stools just about

every single week though. I assume this is from the metho.

Take care. Hope things settle down for you.

Love, Marilyn

Hello!

> I think I asked this before, but are any of you who are taking

> methotrexateexperiencing any amplification of symptoms for the

first

> day to day and a half after the treatment? I seem to and my

doctor

> isn't familiar with anyone else having that happen. The pain

isn't

> necessarily horrible, but the heat and aching in my joints seems

to

> get much worse.

> Thanks!

> M

May 13, 2002

Hi :-)

I remember Dr. Franco ( www.thearthritiscenter.com ) mentioning that

methotrexate has some level of antibiotic-like properties...it kills

micro-organisms. That is why he postulates that the methotrexate

works for some with rheumatic diseases...because he is one of the

doctors who believe that rheumatic diseases are due to a hidden

infection.

Many people who start the antibiotic treatment also initially

experience an amplification of their symptoms and it is explained as

a Herxheimer reaction. A Herxheimer reaction is because the micro-

organisms release a toxin as they are killed by the antibiotic (or in

this case, the methotrexate, possibly?) So......it wouldn't surprise

me if that is the connection.

....just my guess :-) Take care,

Connie H

> Hello!

> I think I asked this before, but are any of you who are taking

> methotrexateexperiencing any amplification of symptoms for the

first

> day to day and a half after the treatment? I seem to and my doctor

> isn't familiar with anyone else having that happen. The pain isn't

> necessarily horrible, but the heat and aching in my joints seems to

> get much worse.

> Thanks!

> M

July 29, 2002

Susiecue, I have been experiencing the some of the same symptoms that you have. I have never been the type to lay around but I am too sick to do anything else. I cry a lot from all the pain. I still have that infection but I do believe I am in a flare, big time. My whole body hurts, my head hurts and I am so nauseous, too. I am to see the surgeon tomorrow and Rheumy on Aug 1. I asked them if I could please come in earlier than the 1st of Aug. since I don't want to wait and I don't want to see a doctor or be around a hospital on my birthday. (yeah sure)!

Does your whole body hurt you? Whatever this is it sure is terrible. Please let me know what the doctors tell you. I hope you feel better real soon. My thoughts and Prayers are with you.

Love, Sharon

July 31, 2002

Oh Sharon, I feel so bad for you and all the pain and suffering that you are going through!!!!!! Is there anything I can do to Help YOU? I said a prayer for you just now and asked the Lord to help you and heal the infection stop the nausea and as Heidi would say put the RP in sleeping mode!!!!!! I know how wearing pain can be and how depressed it can make you feel but I know also that the Lord loves you and will help you through all this. I don't know why you have so much on your plate right now but I do know that He is able to help and comfort you!!! take care and let me know how you are doing, I care. Love Sue Park

Re: question

Susiecue, I have been experiencing the some of the same symptoms that you have. I have never been the type to lay around but I am too sick to do anything else. I cry a lot from all the pain. I still have that infection but I do believe I am in a flare, big time. My whole body hurts, my head hurts and I am so nauseous, too. I am to see the surgeon tomorrow and Rheumy on Aug 1. I asked them if I could please come in earlier than the 1st of Aug. since I don't want to wait and I don't want to see a doctor or be around a hospital on my birthday. (yeah sure)! Does your whole body hurt you? Whatever this is it sure is terrible. Please let me know what the doctors tell you. I hope you feel better real soon. My thoughts and Prayers are with you. Love, Sharon DISCLAIMER!!WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

August 19, 2002

In a message dated 8/19/02 6:17:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Kenocarol@... writes:

<<

I thought I read something about NOT wanting to Boost your Imune

System......

Is that right?? >>

Carol, it was me who said that. I will look for the article on it. No...we

don't want to boost our immune system. We want to suppress it. The more we

boost it, the more the little beasties have to attack. does that make sense?

LOL

When I was first dx, I thought it would be great to take

glucosamine/condrotin...the stuff that rebuilds cartilage. Well... the drs.

yelled " NO...stop immediately " LOL I was only making more for my body to

attack.

I will look for the article I have on it. It has to be here somewhere. LOL

hugs

August 19, 2002

Thanks , I thought I saved it but I cant find it. You sent it not long ago.....

August 20, 2002

--- RCColloran@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/19/02 6:17:26 PM Pacific

> Daylight Time,

> Kenocarol@... writes:

>

> <<

> I thought I read something about NOT wanting to

> Boost your Imune

> System......

> Is that right?? >>

>

> Carol, it was me who said that. I will look for the

> article on it. No...we

> don't want to boost our immune system. We want to

> suppress it. The more we

> boost it, the more the little beasties have to

> attack. does that make sense?

> LOL

>

> When I was first dx, I thought it would be great to

> take

> glucosamine/condrotin...the stuff that rebuilds

> cartilage. Well... the drs.

> yelled " NO...stop immediately " LOL I was only

> making more for my body to

> attack.

>

> I will look for the article I have on it. It has to

> be here somewhere. LOL

>

> hugs

>

This is exactly why some of us take immunesuppressent

medications. Love, squeek

=====

__________________________________________________

September 4, 2002

In a message dated 9/3/02 10:35:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nant8@...

writes:

<< Every time I call you you are getting that much needed rest

and I when I saw your post I remembered I need to get mine. So see

you are still touching lives while you are recouperating. So keep up

the nagging. HAHA luv ya,

>>

, Gosh you would think I'd be caught up by now. LOL Glad I reminded

you. YOu will all hit me, but I have to order my new one still. Oops.....

guess I had better do it today. , I found for me it was easier to call

and talk to them personally. This was just my experience. I have so many

things wrong, that I couldn't figure out how to get it all on that tiny

space. LOL So they were really helpful and did it for me.

Make sure you put down if you are on steroids or any suppressants. This is

Important info.

I had my 2nd major flare 2 months after my mom died. I think a lot is the

stress. That was the flare that stayed. KNow that my thoughts and prayers

are with you and you have all of us for your support. We love you no matter

what.

I would call, but don't know if you could talk because of your ear. LOL

Please take care and if you see no improvement with the medrol pak, PLEASE

call the dr back. You don't need to suffer.

hugs

December 5, 2003

It sounds like you have a hobbit (six meals a day) just joking.It seems as if

you have a baby with a big appetite.My first baby would at 5 months (he used

an infa-feeder )8 ounces of baby food and also drink an 8 ounce bottle right

before bed.I think I just have healthy eaters but I think it would be ok to

feed until he wants to stop eating.My 5th baby weighed 9.13 and he ate all the

time (he is 10 and he still eats all the time) .Be Thankful he eats and he has

no problems with it as lots of us can tell you have it better than some.Good

Luck and keep up the great work! B

December 5, 2003

Hi Val,

My daughter is 12 1/2 months old. She is breast fed 4-5 times a day, 3

meals a day (including jars of baby food and finger foods at each meal)

plus she gets an 8oz bottle of formula right before bed. She is in the

50% for weight and 90% for height. I think they will stop when they

have had enough...at least both my kids do. One thing that has helped

us at this stage is teaching our kids to use sign language to tell us

when they are finished or want more etc... Like today at lunch, I went

to feed my daughter and she pushed my hand away and shook her head " no " .

I said, " are you all done? " and she shook her head " no " again and signed

" more " and " eat " ...she wanted more of her finger foods not the baby

food. It reduces a lot of the guessing and frustration! Our dietician

told us that kids with CF require about 20% more calories than a child

w/o CF. Hope this info helps...

Good luck!

Mom to Ellie, 12mo wCF and Jack, 3yo noCF

question

hi everybody!!

I didn't check my e-mail yesterday....when I went to bed I felt like

something was missing...It is funny how this board bacome part of

our lifes so fast...i love to ready all the posts and everybody in

this list...everybody is so positive, sweet and funny....I laugh a

lot w/ the " bulls...f..k.... " post.....I don't like curse words but

it was funny how the internet is trick...

anyway...I have a question...it is one of the most silly ones for

sure...I have no idea how to feed a baby...I think I am doing ok to

first time mum, without my mom close to help...but I fell like

something is wrong...first I guess I need to put more liquid in his

diet...he is really constipated (sp?)... and if I don't stop feeding

him he will eat until explode, at least I guess...like tonight, he

ate 1 jar of veggies, than 1/3 of veggies dices + 1/2 jar yogurt +

1/2 jar apple dices, 1 cracker + 1 oz gatorade + peices ok my

linguine w/ tomato sauce...I decide to take him out of the high

chair ( or he would be too heavy for me to lift)and he start

crying...I don't know if I am feeding him too much...too

little....anyone w/ a 11 months old that could help me?? ah, he is

breast feed 3 times a day + 2 meal + bf/meal in a total of 6 meals a

day. he is between the 40% of H and W.

love

val

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be construed as medical advice.

PLEASE CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE CHANGING ANY MEDICATIONS OR

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------------------------------------

December 6, 2003

We had a hobbit, too; the kid wcf always ate two breakfasts!

Love to you and to yours,

n

Re: question

> It sounds like you have a hobbit (six meals a day) just joking.It seems as

if

> you have a baby with a big appetite.My first baby would at 5 months (he

used

> an infa-feeder )8 ounces of baby food and also drink an 8 ounce bottle

right

> before bed.I think I just have healthy eaters but I think it would be ok

to

> feed until he wants to stop eating.My 5th baby weighed 9.13 and he ate

all the

> time (he is 10 and he still eats all the time) .Be Thankful he eats and he

has

> no problems with it as lots of us can tell you have it better than

some.Good

> Luck and keep up the great work! B

>

December 6, 2003

Hi,

Jack is 11mths and today he ate a can of pear and banana with rice cereal

and milk, a toast finger and a bottle of milk for bkfst, a container of

yoghurt, a bottle and a biscuit for lunch, bottle this afternoon, a bowl of

chicken and sweet corn with butter and salt, half a can of custard and

another bottle for dinner and sucked on some chips with salt at dinner with

us. He is on about the 25th%ile for weight and height. I'd just let them eat

as much as they want. I wouldn't worry about them gaining weight I'm sure

they'll lose any extra when they run around in a few months time.

Jack took his first steps today!

Fiona mo Jack w/cf

>

>Reply-To: cfparents

>To: cfparents

>Subject: question

>Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 04:06:07 -0000

>

>hi everybody!!

>I didn't check my e-mail yesterday....when I went to bed I felt like

>something was missing...It is funny how this board bacome part of

>our lifes so fast...i love to ready all the posts and everybody in

>this list...everybody is so positive, sweet and funny....I laugh a

>lot w/ the " bulls...f..k.... " post.....I don't like curse words but

>it was funny how the internet is trick...

>anyway...I have a question...it is one of the most silly ones for

>sure...I have no idea how to feed a baby...I think I am doing ok to

>first time mum, without my mom close to help...but I fell like

>something is wrong...first I guess I need to put more liquid in his

>diet...he is really constipated (sp?)... and if I don't stop feeding

>him he will eat until explode, at least I guess...like tonight, he

>ate 1 jar of veggies, than 1/3 of veggies dices + 1/2 jar yogurt +

>1/2 jar apple dices, 1 cracker + 1 oz gatorade + peices ok my

>linguine w/ tomato sauce...I decide to take him out of the high

>chair ( or he would be too heavy for me to lift)and he start

>crying...I don't know if I am feeding him too much...too

>little....anyone w/ a 11 months old that could help me?? ah, he is

>breast feed 3 times a day + 2 meal + bf/meal in a total of 6 meals a

>day. he is between the 40% of H and W.

>love

>val

>

_________________________________________________________________

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December 6, 2003

GREAT. It sounds like your doing well . Congrats on the 11th month

birthday -heheh

LOVE & HUGS, grandmoMBEV