Re: Carbs vs. protein (Beth H)

[Guest guest]

Beth,

The nutritionist's point was just that thousands of people were

following a high protein, low carb diet for weight loss, and yet

that is what we are giving our kids, and then wondering why they

don't gain.

Another point to make is our kids are not insulin resistant because

of their diets. The studies show they are this way, and the GH

makes it worse for the time they are on it. Not to say that diet

isn't important, obviously it is, but our kids' diet (or lack

thereof in my house) did not cause his insulin resistance.

Is your daughter currently on GH?

Beth H.

> >

> > I hate to jump in here and cause a fire storm. But two years at

> > convention many light bulbs went on for me. One of them was

> during

> > the DuPage Easter Seals presentation with the feeding clinic.

> > Someone help me (I can't remember her name)- the dietician gave

a

> > great presentation. I later saw all of them at the clinic for

an

> > eval for Matt. Her point at convention and to me at the eval

was

> I

> > was focusing so much on stuffing Matt with protein (to build

> muscles

> > and gain good weight) that he was really on the Atkins diet.

> Which

> > hit a nerve since my hubby, at that time (ok he is still my

> hubby),

> > was on the Atkins for weight loss. Hello! Good point! I

> actually

> > have the feeding clinic eval here somewhere telling me to add

more

> > Carbs. Now, I will concede they prefer good carbs, but we all

> still

> > need carbs.

> >

> > My husband is back on a modified Atkins, limiting his intake of

> > carbs because we are all eat more refined sugar and processed

> foods

> > than we should. But I have to say, I need to get calories in

> Matt.

> > And if that means one or two of his snacks is the graham

crackers

> > that are shaped like Scooby Doo dog biscuits, then so be it. I

am

> > just thrilled he is eating something fun for him, with calories

> and

> > he is doing it independently. For you who know my struggles,

you

> > know this is HUGE!

> >

> > Just my two cents.

> > Beth H.

> > Mom to Matt

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth H,

You said;

>The nutritionist's point was just that thousands of people were

>following a high protein, low carb diet for weight loss, and yet

>that is what we are giving our kids, and then wondering why they

>don't gain.

What the nutritionist is missing or not understanding, is that the

fat content is the most important aspect. Also, it is very

important not to just use any fat, it needs to comprise mostly of

fat from butter, coconut oil, palm kernel oil and cod liver oil.

Other types of fats will interfere with the hormonal process and

lead to more insulin resistance.

>Another point to make is our kids are not insulin resistant because

>of their diets. The studies show they are this way, and the GH

>makes it worse for the time they are on it. Not to say that diet

>isn't important, obviously it is, but our kids' diet (or lack

>thereof in my house) did not cause his insulin resistance.

Our doctor does not agree with this and I will go into greater

detail on this subject later once I find the material I need to

explain why he feels the way he does.

>Is your daughter currently on GH?

is no longer on GH, after starting the high fat and

protein diet a year ago she when off GH.

Beth

> > >

> > > I hate to jump in here and cause a fire storm. But two years

at

> > > convention many light bulbs went on for me. One of them was

> > during

> > > the DuPage Easter Seals presentation with the feeding clinic.

> > > Someone help me (I can't remember her name)- the dietician

gave

> a

> > > great presentation. I later saw all of them at the clinic for

> an

> > > eval for Matt. Her point at convention and to me at the eval

> was

> > I

> > > was focusing so much on stuffing Matt with protein (to build

> > muscles

> > > and gain good weight) that he was really on the Atkins diet.

> > Which

> > > hit a nerve since my hubby, at that time (ok he is still my

> > hubby),

> > > was on the Atkins for weight loss. Hello! Good point! I

> > actually

> > > have the feeding clinic eval here somewhere telling me to add

> more

> > > Carbs. Now, I will concede they prefer good carbs, but we all

> > still

> > > need carbs.

> > >

> > > My husband is back on a modified Atkins, limiting his intake

of

> > > carbs because we are all eat more refined sugar and processed

> > foods

> > > than we should. But I have to say, I need to get calories in

> > Matt.

> > > And if that means one or two of his snacks is the graham

> crackers

> > > that are shaped like Scooby Doo dog biscuits, then so be it.

I

> am

> > > just thrilled he is eating something fun for him, with

calories

> > and

> > > he is doing it independently. For you who know my struggles,

> you

> > > know this is HUGE!

> > >

> > > Just my two cents.

> > > Beth H.

> > > Mom to Matt

[Guest guest]

Beth,

You say that went off the gh a year ago since starting this new diet.

How has she grown in the past year since stopping the gh and doing this diet as

compared to not being on this type of diet and having the gh?

B

beth_joe_williams wrote:

Hi Beth H,

You said;

>The nutritionist's point was just that thousands of people were

>following a high protein, low carb diet for weight loss, and yet

>that is what we are giving our kids, and then wondering why they

>don't gain.

What the nutritionist is missing or not understanding, is that the

fat content is the most important aspect. Also, it is very

important not to just use any fat, it needs to comprise mostly of

fat from butter, coconut oil, palm kernel oil and cod liver oil.

Other types of fats will interfere with the hormonal process and

lead to more insulin resistance.

>Another point to make is our kids are not insulin resistant because

>of their diets. The studies show they are this way, and the GH

>makes it worse for the time they are on it. Not to say that diet

>isn't important, obviously it is, but our kids' diet (or lack

>thereof in my house) did not cause his insulin resistance.

Our doctor does not agree with this and I will go into greater

detail on this subject later once I find the material I need to

explain why he feels the way he does.

>Is your daughter currently on GH?

is no longer on GH, after starting the high fat and

protein diet a year ago she when off GH.

Beth

> > >

> > > I hate to jump in here and cause a fire storm. But two years

at

> > > convention many light bulbs went on for me. One of them was

> > during

> > > the DuPage Easter Seals presentation with the feeding clinic.

> > > Someone help me (I can't remember her name)- the dietician

gave

> a

> > > great presentation. I later saw all of them at the clinic for

> an

> > > eval for Matt. Her point at convention and to me at the eval

> was

> > I

> > > was focusing so much on stuffing Matt with protein (to build

> > muscles

> > > and gain good weight) that he was really on the Atkins diet.

> > Which

> > > hit a nerve since my hubby, at that time (ok he is still my

> > hubby),

> > > was on the Atkins for weight loss. Hello! Good point! I

> > actually

> > > have the feeding clinic eval here somewhere telling me to add

> more

> > > Carbs. Now, I will concede they prefer good carbs, but we all

> > still

> > > need carbs.

> > >

> > > My husband is back on a modified Atkins, limiting his intake

of

> > > carbs because we are all eat more refined sugar and processed

> > foods

> > > than we should. But I have to say, I need to get calories in

> > Matt.

> > > And if that means one or two of his snacks is the graham

> crackers

> > > that are shaped like Scooby Doo dog biscuits, then so be it.

I

> am

> > > just thrilled he is eating something fun for him, with

calories

> > and

> > > he is doing it independently. For you who know my struggles,

> you

> > > know this is HUGE!

> > >

> > > Just my two cents.

> > > Beth H.

> > > Mom to Matt