Can't Sleep

[Guest guest]

,

If it is still a problem, try taking Valerian root about a half hour

before the time to go to bed. It smells awful but is effective and does

not seem to have any adverse side effects. It is available everywhere,

even at Walmart.

Also, make sure you get out in the sun as early as possible in the

morning to keep your circadian rhythms in phase. That can be even more

important in the winter, but your sleep rhythms can still get out of

whack in the summer.

And, as someone else suggested, lay off the caffeine.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I didn't do it myself but many of my friends did have a regular bed time in

college. We all did sports socially and on teams. Two graduated with straight

A's in chemical engineering! They did drink a little caffeine but that was only

because the dining halls pushed soda back then over milk, juice or water.

What am I trying to say - , grandpa is right about his list (well,

I have heard about the supplement, not taken it) grin. If you want to see

better over all health I'd encourage you to press yourself into doing it.

bear339@... wrote:

Hhmm, that doesn't really sound too enjoyable for me seeing as I don't like

too much physical exercise, I'm a 19 year old student who never goes to bed at

the same time, and could never give up caffeine. Maybe i'll try the melatonin

.... or maybe I'll just deal with the sleep issues LoL.

:-)

Sleep problems, like so many other things can have probably hundreds of

causes. I've had them all of my 66 years except for about 6 months when

I followed this procedure:

1] Physical exercise [read WORK]

2] Regular bed time hours

3] Melatonin, 3 mg per night

4] Limited or no caffeine

Luck,

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[Guest guest]

I'm not recommending you follow the list; I'm just telling you my

experience. As a matter of fact I don't follow it either; and I have

problems sleeping. But when I DID follow it was the only time in my 66

years that I could go to bed and be asleep in a few minutes. Both

before and now I will sometimes lie awake in bed for many hours; even

until it gets daylight before I go to sleep.

Luck,

>

> Re: Can't sleep

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> Posted by: " bear339@... " bear339@...

> <mailto:bear339@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Can%27t%20sleep>

> ebradi3951 <ebradi3951>

>

>

> Sat Jul 7, 2007 10:58 am (PST)

>

>

>

>

> Hhmm, that doesn't really sound too enjoyable for me seeing as I don't

> like

> too much physical exercise, I'm a 19 year old student who never goes

> to bed at

> the same time, and could never give up caffeine. Maybe i'll try the

> melatonin

> ... or maybe I'll just deal with the sleep issues LoL.

> :-)

> Sleep problems, like so many other things can have probably hundreds of

> causes. I've had them all of my 66 years except for about 6 months when

> I followed this procedure:

>

> 1] Physical exercise [read WORK]

> 2] Regular bed time hours

> 3] Melatonin, 3 mg per night

> 4] Limited or no caffeine

>

> Luck,

>

[Guest guest]

The caffeine effect for me seems strange. Sometimes I drink it and have

the tight, " can't sleep " feeling; other times I drink it and it seems to

have no effect at all. Now that I take 3 mg Melatonin nightly I never

have the excessive " hard wired, tired, can't sleep " symptom.

>

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> Posted by: " le " danosova@...

> <mailto:danosova@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Can%27t%20sleep>

> danosova <danosova>

>

>

> Sat Jul 7, 2007 11:00 am (PST)

>

> No caffeine is so true. I cut it out and oh how I miss those Pepsi

> moments, but I feel a lot better and sleep great! Remember, I am the

> lady with a 2, 3, 4 and 9 year old in the house and a husband doesn't

> live with us right now - so read that as I work my butt off all day

> and night frequently. I still say I get the best sleep despite the

> single parenting drain of late night crying, potty mistakes, the

> occasional monster in the closet. Again, I thank Armour, no caffeine

> and a physically draining day for my new found Zzzzzzzzz! I would

> never say it is because I finally don't have to share my bed with a

> snoring jerk off....that would not be lady like, wink.

>

> le

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> Sleep problems, like so many other things can have probably hundreds of

> causes. I've had them all of my 66 years except for about 6 months when

> I followed this procedure:

>

> 1] Physical exercise [read WORK]

> 2] Regular bed time hours

> 3] Melatonin, 3 mg per night

> 4] Limited or no caffeine

>

> Luck,

>

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

> In response to what I wrote:

>

>>> " And, as someone else suggested, lay off the caffeine. "

>

> Neevvvveeerrrr!!

Then, at least limit it to morning. My personal rule is none after 3:00

p.m. That seems to allow sleep by bed time.

The half life for caffeine in a smoker is about 4 hours. In a

non-smoker, it is 6 hours.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

You know, this is the first time I have never known whether the DAW box was

checked? I forget to grab the prescription when I was leaving and the

receptionist at my doctors office called it in? Yikes, maybe I will call

tomorrow to

make sure it is the brand name armour? Can I tell now whether it is or not? It

still says all the same stuff on the label?

This sounds adrenal related to me.THyroid meds as you raise the dosages will

cause an adrenal problem too show itself.

I have this problem as well........I have thI have this problem as

well........<WBR>.........<WBR>.although i have an underlying

You could try a little cortisol maybe 2.5 at night before bed.If you dont

have cortisol you can buy alfalfa and take it before bedtime.Alfalfa is a great

blood tonic, but also has mild cortisol properties.Works better for me then

cortisol.

My other thought is maybe you got a bad(generic) batch of meds.

They will always give generic unless you specify.Even then they will still

try and give you generic.Thats been my experience.

Good luck!

le <_danosova@..._ (mailto:danosova@...) > wrote:

Hi.

I had the same thing on Synthroid. Couldn't get sleep for the life of me!

Switched to Armour and sleep like a baby! I take it right when I wake up. I take

my full dose at one time. I go about my work and taking care of the kids until

I can get breakfast - I do the two hour thing.

Is it possible anything is going on this week or last that might be causing

some anxiety or restlessness?

le

Gracia <_mailto:circe%40gwi.net_ (mailto:circe@...) > wrote:

I don't know. Enough Armour really helps me sleep. Do you split the dose

between morning and afternoon? maybe that would help. Peeps report better sleep

with iodine too. When I needed HC/adrenal support I was tired but wired and

couldn't sleep.

Gracia

I'm not quite sure what is goin on here, maybe you guys can help me out. When

my Mom and I were on Synthroid we were tired all the time and my Mom suffered

from Insomnia then too. When we switched to armour and thought what we found

were good doses (My Mom 3 grains armour) and me (4 grains armour) we would

feel awake durring the day but then at night we would get sleepy and sleep a

full like 9 hours. Lately, however, we both haven't been able to sleep. We

have

been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about 3:00 am and can't for the

life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern for about a week now.

Neither

of us feel hypEr at all. I have heard people here say that sleeping problems

can be thyroid related, is that what this is? Any input would be great!

zzzZZZZZZZZ

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The generic will smell different - more sour and fetid.

It will not have the " Armour A " on it. It will not have that same sweet

Armour taste, either. When I was on the generic for a week, I got

severe hypo symptoms and then raise holy h*ll with the pharmacy until I

got Armour.

If yo hae Armour, the label should say " Armour Thyroid " ,

not " Qualitest " .

Sam

>

> You know, this is the first time I have never known whether the DAW

box was

> checked? I forget to grab the prescription when I was leaving and the

> receptionist at my doctors office called it in? Yikes, maybe I will

call tomorrow to

> make sure it is the brand name armour? Can I tell now whether it is

or not? It

> still says all the same stuff on the label?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sam ... I think it is brand name then :-)

In a message dated 7/8/2007 4:16:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

k9gang@... writes:

The generic will smell different - more sour and fetid.

It will not have the " Armour A " on it. It will not have that same sweet

Armour taste, either. When I was on the generic for a week, I got

severe hypo symptoms and then raise holy h*ll with the pharmacy until I

got Armour.

If yo hae Armour, the label should say " Armour Thyroid " ,

not " Qualitest " .

Sam

--- In _hypothyroidism@hypothyroidihyp_

(mailto:hypothyroidism ) , bear339@, be

>

> You know, this is the first time I have never known whether the DAW

box was

> checked? I forget to grab the prescription when I was leaving and the

> receptionist at my doctors office called it in? Yikes, maybe I will

call tomorrow to

> make sure it is the brand name armour? Can I tell now whether it is

or not? It

> still says all the same stuff on the label?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Armour has an A right in the tablet.

Roni

--- bear339@... wrote:

> You know, this is the first time I have never known

> whether the DAW box was

> checked? I forget to grab the prescription when I

> was leaving and the

> receptionist at my doctors office called it in?

> Yikes, maybe I will call tomorrow to

> make sure it is the brand name armour? Can I tell

> now whether it is or not? It

> still says all the same stuff on the label?

>

>

>

> This sounds adrenal related to me.THyroid meds as

> you raise the dosages will

> cause an adrenal problem too show itself.

> I have this problem as well........I have thI have

> this problem as

> well........<WBR>.........<WBR>.although i have an

> underlying

> You could try a little cortisol maybe 2.5 at night

> before bed.If you dont

> have cortisol you can buy alfalfa and take it before

> bedtime.Alfalfa is a great

> blood tonic, but also has mild cortisol

> properties.Works better for me then

> cortisol.

>

> My other thought is maybe you got a bad(generic)

> batch of meds.

> They will always give generic unless you

> specify.Even then they will still

> try and give you generic.Thats been my experience.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

> le <_danosova@..._

> (mailto:danosova@...) > wrote:

> Hi.

> I had the same thing on Synthroid. Couldn't get

> sleep for the life of me!

> Switched to Armour and sleep like a baby! I take it

> right when I wake up. I take

> my full dose at one time. I go about my work and

> taking care of the kids until

> I can get breakfast - I do the two hour thing.

> Is it possible anything is going on this week or

> last that might be causing

> some anxiety or restlessness?

>

> le

>

> Gracia <_mailto:circe%40gwi.net_

> (mailto:circe@...) > wrote:

>

> I don't know. Enough Armour really helps me sleep.

> Do you split the dose

> between morning and afternoon? maybe that would

> help. Peeps report better sleep

> with iodine too. When I needed HC/adrenal support I

> was tired but wired and

> couldn't sleep.

> Gracia

>

> I'm not quite sure what is goin on here, maybe you

> guys can help me out. When

> my Mom and I were on Synthroid we were tired all the

> time and my Mom suffered

> from Insomnia then too. When we switched to armour

> and thought what we found

> were good doses (My Mom 3 grains armour) and me (4

> grains armour) we would

> feel awake durring the day but then at night we

> would get sleepy and sleep a

> full like 9 hours. Lately, however, we both haven't

> been able to sleep. We

> have

> been waking up around 8:00 am and it is now about

> 3:00 am and can't for the

> life of us fall asleep ... this has been a pattern

> for about a week now.

> Neither

> of us feel hypEr at all. I have heard people here

> say that sleeping problems

> can be thyroid related, is that what this is? Any

> input would be great!

>

> zzzZZZZZZZZ

>

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's

> free at http://www.aol.com.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son is almost 5 months old and got his hanger helmet last week. He seems to

be adjusting to it slowly, but he will not sleep in it! I've tried naps first,

but he just won't do it. Does anyone have any suggestions to make laying down

more comfortable??

[Guest guest]

Hi, !|It is hard not to be able to sleep. I guess too many thoughts and worries makes it hard. Hope it will get better soon!|Cecilia From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> Tim <bird mites > Sent: Sunday, June

17, 2012 8:32 AM Subject: Can't sleep

I get into these moods where even when I am tired I can't sleep, especially if I have something going on the next day... it is just something I've had to live with since I've had Lyme Disease. Tomorrow is Father's Day here in the U.S. Bill, thank you for all the suggestions on killing bugs and spiders in the house. We've had a decrease for sure, maybe less than 10 spiders in the last 4-5 days. That is good for our place. So maybe the poison is working. Bill, if you are a dad, Happy Father's Day!

[Guest guest]

Hi

ps my gym teacher said , go run around the block till you can not run any more &

you will fall asleep. .Pent up energy needs to be released

Good news the spiders are down . Baking soda puffed everywhere dries out bugs

to a crisp , I walked barefoot in it & in 3 days my feet split in 40 spots

.....deep dried out splits that bled. ...Perfect for bug dehydration , it burns

the eyes to death also . .... Perfect for blind dried out crispy bugs ....

What kind of spiders are they ?

I wonder if flies or june bugs or afids or whatever bugs were kept in an

aquaruium & fed borax water only for 1 day , then released them into the webs ,

bingo ! dead spiders from poison bait .. It works for ants , 1 teasp honey &

1/8 teasp borax mixed & fed to ants kills all of the hive if you can find the

ants to feed it to.

God bless you

Happy Fathers day !

Praise His Holy name

,

Bill

------------------------------

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 2:32 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>I get into these moods where even when I am tired I can't sleep, especially if

I have something going on the next day... it is just something I've had to live

with since I've had Lyme Disease. Tomorrow is Father's Day here in the U.S.

>

>

>Bill, thank you for all the suggestions on killing bugs and spiders in the

house. We've had a decrease for sure, maybe less than 10 spiders in the last 4-5

days. That is good for our place. So maybe the poison is working.

>

>

>Bill, if you are a dad, Happy Father's Day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the type of spiders we are common garden variety spiders. We do have black widows in California, but these have no hour glass. We don't have brown recluse spiders. These are biters though... we've been bitten on 4-6 occasions.From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:41:32 PMSubject: Re: Can't sleepHi Good news the spiders are down . Baking soda puffed everywhere dries out bugs to a crisp , I walked barefoot in it & in 3 days my feet split in 40 spots ....deep dried out splits that bled. ...Perfect for bug dehydration , it burns the eyes to death also . .... Perfect for blind dried out crispy bugs .... What kind of spiders are they ? I wonder if flies or june bugs or afids or whatever bugs were kept in an aquaruium & fed borax water only for 1 day , then released them into the webs , bingo ! dead spiders from poison bait .. It works for ants , 1 teasp honey & 1/8 teasp borax mixed & fed to ants kills all of the hive if you can find the ants to feed it to. God bless you Happy Fathers day ! Praise His Holy name ,Bill --------------------------- >I get into these moods where even when I am tired I can't sleep, especially if I have something going on the next day... it is just something I've had to live with since I've had Lyme Disease. Tomorrow is Father's Day here in the U.S. > > >Bill, thank you for all the suggestions on killing bugs and spiders in the house. We've had a decrease for sure, maybe less than 10 spiders in the last 4-5 days. That is good for our place. So maybe the poison is working. > > >Bill, if you are a dad, Happy Father's Day! > > >------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Have u tried a .yantra mat.. For sleep

I had just bought one before the mite invasion n it was great,

I miss it as had throw away

But great for relaxation

Valerian capsules may help

Valerian tea

Fresh lavender

Scullcap

Rose petal tea

Camomile flowers

Brew in pot

Maybe wiyh a little fresh ginger n honey

Massage with a base oil ,lavender n camomile oils

Even just your face

X

------------------------------

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 12:18 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>Bill,

>

>

>We just figured out that some of the spiders are coming through the vent in one

downstairs bathroom. Not sure how to screen that off at this point. We find

spiders in the tub, sink, toilet, floor in there. I thought they were going

after water, but we think they are actually coming from the fan/vent in the

bathroom.

>

>

>Good suggestion on getting rid of energy for better sleep. Today I'm doing

major cleaning out of certain spaces in the house... it takes a lot of energy.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Can't sleep

>

>

>Hi

>

>ps my gym teacher said , go run around the block till you can not run any more

& you will fall asleep. .Pent up energy needs to be released

>Good news the spiders are down . Baking soda puffed everywhere dries out bugs

to a crisp , I walked barefoot in it & in 3 days my feet split in 40 spots

.....deep dried out splits that bled. ...Perfect for bug dehydration , it burns

the eyes to death also . .... Perfect for blind dried out crispy bugs ....

>

>What kind of spiders are they ?

>I wonder if flies or june bugs or afids or whatever bugs were kept in an

aquaruium & fed borax water only for 1 day , then released them into the webs ,

bingo ! dead spiders from poison bait .. It works for ants , 1 teasp honey & 1/8

teasp borax mixed & fed to ants kills all of the hive if you can find the ants

to feed it to.

>

>

>God bless you

>

>Happy Fathers day !

>

>Praise His Holy name

>

>,

>

>Bill

>

>

>

>

>

>------------------------------

>On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 2:32 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>

>>I get into these moods where even when I am tired I can't sleep, especially if

I have something going on the next day... it is just something I've had to live

with since I've had Lyme Disease. Tomorrow is Father's Day here in the U.S.

>>

>>

>>Bill, thank you for all the suggestions on killing bugs and spiders in the

house. We've had a decrease for sure, maybe less than 10 spiders in the last 4-5

days. That is good for our place. So maybe the poison is working.

>>

>>

>>Bill, if you are a dad, Happy Father's Day!

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ilike TreesI do take valerian every night and it does help, along with other sleep meds. Insomnia is common with Lyme Disease, Fibro and CFS. I've had a sleep disorder for years. All those teas are good suggestions. I have some of those teas (camomile) upstairs, but didn't think of it at the time. Fortuately, the insomnia at its worst does not happen too often. But I must remember the teas because they do help! Thanks for the reminder. I forget some of the most obvious things to help when the worst insomnia strikes! I've also found that when I stay up too late and ignore the time when I should go to bed, I get a second wind and then it is harder to go to sleep. I start yawning around 9 pm... really should go to bed then, but stay up to visit with my husband.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:14:27 AMSubject: Re: Can't sleepHave u tried a .yantra mat.. For sleepI had just bought one before the mite invasion n it was great,I miss it as had throw away But great for relaxationValerian capsules may helpValerian teaFresh lavenderScullcapRose petal teaCamomile flowersBrew in potMaybe wiyh a little fresh ginger n honeyMassage with a base oil ,lavender n camomile oilsEven just your faceX------------------------------On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 12:18 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>Bill, >>>We just figured out that some of the spiders are coming through the vent in one downstairs bathroom. Not sure how to screen that off at this point. We find spiders in the tub, sink, toilet, floor in there. I thought they were going after water, but we think they are actually coming from the fan/vent in the bathroom. >>>Good suggestion on getting rid of energy for better sleep. Today I'm doing major cleaning out of certain spaces in the house... it takes a lot of energy. >>> >> Re: Can't sleep >>>Hi >>ps my gym teacher said , go run around the block till you can not run any more & you will fall asleep. .Pent up energy needs to be released >Good news the spiders are down . Baking soda puffed everywhere dries out bugs to a crisp , I walked barefoot in it & in 3 days my feet split in 40 spots ....deep dried out splits that bled. ...Perfect for bug dehydration , it burns the eyes to death also . .... Perfect for blind dried out crispy bugs .... >>What kind of spiders are they ? >I wonder if flies or june bugs or afids or whatever bugs were kept in an aquaruium & fed borax water only for 1 day , then released them into the webs , bingo ! dead spiders from poison bait .. It works for ants , 1 teasp honey & 1/8 teasp borax mixed & fed to ants kills all of the hive if you can find the ants to feed it to. >>>God bless you >>Happy Fathers day ! >>Praise His Holy name >>, >>Bill >>>>>>------------------------------ >On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 2:32 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote: >>>I get into these moods where even when I am tired I can't sleep, especially if I have something going on the next day... it is just something I've had to live with since I've had Lyme Disease. Tomorrow is Father's Day here in the U.S. >> >> >>Bill, thank you for all the suggestions on killing bugs and spiders in the house. We've had a decrease for sure, maybe less than 10 spiders in the last 4-5 days. That is good for our place. So maybe the poison is working. >> >> >>Bill, if you are a dad, Happy Father's Day! >> >> >> >>>------------------------------------ >>