Re: Update on Jake (older baby with 2 DOCBands)

September 24, 2008

I am curious how long Jake was in therapy before you could consider

his tort " resolved " . We are just starting the process with my Jake -

he just turned 7 months old and has had 3 weeks of PT and has been in

his STARband for 5 days now.

Jenn

- 7 months, Tort & Plagio - STARband 5 days

>

> Hi all-

> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my son

> Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born with

> tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would round

> out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However, the

> natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick

> away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never going

> to correct on its own.

>

> When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte,

> because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of

> experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

first

> DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for

> the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We

> decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction as

> we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he

> was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

with

> no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

>

> So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his

> DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY

> happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late

> start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I forgot

> to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me

a

> copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> expectations:

>

> Traditional Cranial Vault

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 11mm

> After 2ndBand 5mm

>

> Cranial Vault

> Before 19mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 4mm

>

> Skull Base

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 6mm

>

> All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still see

> the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when

> it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited to

> see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and skinnier

> now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> overnight.

>

> CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too

> late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed

to

> be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still

> always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you

> still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

>

> So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a moderator

> of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do

> with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some

> peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

>

> Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> Jordan-4.5

>

September 24, 2008

Hi Jenn-

It really just depends on the severity of the tort and the age

treatment is started, I believe, as well as the consistency of doing

exercises at home. My Jake's tort was caught early, at his 2 month

check up and we started PT right away. We went every week for 6 or 8

weeks, I can't even really remember now, then we went every 2 weeks,

maybe twice, and then for a one-month follow up. The PT will tell

you when you're done. Some babies are in PT longer than others. From

what I've heard around here, I would say my Jake is probably on the

quicker end of things, he was released from therapy in about 3

months or so. I also took him back for a follow up assessment at 18

months old just to see if there was anything tort related to be

worried about, since he had reached all his major gross motor

milestones, but he was given the all-clear.

Good luck with PT and the StarBand!

Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

Jordan-4.5

> >

> > Hi all-

> > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

son

> > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

with

> > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

round

> > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

the

> > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

tick

> > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

going

> > to correct on its own.

> >

> > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

Charlotte,

> > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal

of

> > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

> first

> > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band

for

> > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes.

We

> > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

as

> > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band,

he

> > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

> with

> > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> >

> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

his

> > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

VERY

> > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

late

> > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

forgot

> > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed

me

> a

> > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> > expectations:

> >

> > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 11mm

> > After 2ndBand 5mm

> >

> > Cranial Vault

> > Before 19mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 4mm

> >

> > Skull Base

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 6mm

> >

> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

see

> > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

when

> > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

to

> > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

skinnier

> > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > overnight.

> >

> > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

too

> > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

seemed

> to

> > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

still

> > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

you

> > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> >

> > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

moderator

> > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to

do

> > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

some

> > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> >

> > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > Jordan-4.5

> >

>

September 25, 2008

CONGRATULATIONS JAKE AND NICOLE!!!! That is awesome- and very

inspiring! I am so excited for you too. Glad to hear you will

stick around- you have been very helpful to me and many others.

Can't wait to see pictures!

Congrats again!

>

> Hi all-

> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

son

> Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

with

> tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

round

> out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

the

> natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick

> away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

going

> to correct on its own.

>

> When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte,

> because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of

> experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

first

> DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for

> the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We

> decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

as

> we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he

> was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

with

> no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

>

> So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his

> DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY

> happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late

> start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

forgot

> to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me

a

> copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> expectations:

>

> Traditional Cranial Vault

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 11mm

> After 2ndBand 5mm

>

> Cranial Vault

> Before 19mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 4mm

>

> Skull Base

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 6mm

>

> All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

see

> the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when

> it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

to

> see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

skinnier

> now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> overnight.

>

> CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too

> late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed

to

> be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still

> always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you

> still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

>

> So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

moderator

> of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do

> with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some

> peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

>

> Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> Jordan-4.5

>

October 1, 2008

I just posted before and after photos of Jake, for anyone that is

interested. I put together my own photo study because I don't think

the CT photostudy turned out all that great (I don't think the flash

was working well for our exit photos). Most of Jake's improvement

was in his forehead bossing and the base of his skull. A couple of

things hindered the process slightly: inuterine shaping/dent on the

left side of his forehead; forehead did improve greatly, but I feel

it would have improved even more if it weren't for the inuterine

shaping (which is harder to correct than just positional plagio).

Also, his right lambdoid suture (back right side of his flat spot)

began fusing sooner than the others, which kept that side of his

flat spot from really popping out. But overall, the shape of his

head is a vast improvement from where we started, and I'm really

happy with the results.

The photos are under Jake W.

Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

Jordan-4.5

>

> Hi all-

> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

son

> Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

with

> tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

round

> out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

the

> natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick

> away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

going

> to correct on its own.

>

> When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte,

> because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of

> experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

first

> DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for

> the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We

> decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

as

> we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he

> was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

with

> no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

>

> So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his

> DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY

> happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late

> start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

forgot

> to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me

a

> copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> expectations:

>

> Traditional Cranial Vault

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 11mm

> After 2ndBand 5mm

>

> Cranial Vault

> Before 19mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 4mm

>

> Skull Base

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 6mm

>

> All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

see

> the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when

> it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

to

> see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

skinnier

> now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> overnight.

>

> CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too

> late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed

to

> be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still

> always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you

> still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

>

> So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

moderator

> of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do

> with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some

> peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

>

> Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> Jordan-4.5

>

October 1, 2008

,

Jake looks fantastic!! Congrats on being a determined mommy and advocate for your son. Your efforts really paid off. You must be so pleased

Amy

Logan 14 mos. right tort/DocBand Grad

Plagiocephaly From: nwilkens2275@...Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:58:12 +0000Subject: Re: Update on Jake (older baby with 2 DOCBands)

I just posted before and after photos of Jake, for anyone that is interested. I put together my own photo study because I don't think the CT photostudy turned out all that great (I don't think the flash was working well for our exit photos). Most of Jake's improvement was in his forehead bossing and the base of his skull. A couple of things hindered the process slightly: inuterine shaping/dent on the left side of his forehead; forehead did improve greatly, but I feel it would have improved even more if it weren't for the inuterine shaping (which is harder to correct than just positional plagio). Also, his right lambdoid suture (back right side of his flat spot) began fusing sooner than the others, which kept that side of his flat spot from really popping out. But overall, the shape of his head is a vast improvement from where we started, and I'm really happy with the results. The photos are under Jake W. Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)Jordan-4.5>> Hi all-> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my son > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born with > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would round > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However, the > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never going > to correct on its own. > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte, > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his first > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction as > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other with > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I forgot > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me a > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my > expectations:> > Traditional Cranial Vault> Before 15mm> After 1stBand 11mm> After 2ndBand 5mm> > Cranial Vault> Before 19mm> After 1stBand 10mm> After 2ndBand 4mm> > Skull Base> Before 15mm> After 1stBand 10mm> After 2ndBand 6mm> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still see > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited to > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and skinnier > now without his band and seems to have grown into a "big boy" > overnight. > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed to > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it. > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a moderator > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!> > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)> Jordan-4.5> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. Learn Now

October 1, 2008

He looks great!!! Thanks for sharing the photos with the group.

Angie

Re: Update on Jake (older baby with 2 DOCBands)

I just posted before and after photos of Jake, for anyone that is interested. I put together my own photo study because I don't think the CT photostudy turned out all that great (I don't think the flash was working well for our exit photos). Most of Jake's improvement was in his forehead bossing and the base of his skull. A couple of things hindered the process slightly: inuterine shaping/dent on the left side of his forehead; forehead did improve greatly, but I feel it would have improved even more if it weren't for the inuterine shaping (which is harder to correct than just positional plagio). Also, his right lambdoid suture (back right side of his flat spot) began fusing sooner than the others, which kept that side of his flat spot from really popping out. But overall, the shape of his head is a vast improvement from where we started, and I'm really happy with the results. The photos are under Jake W. Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)Jordan-4.5>> Hi all-> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my son > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born with > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would round > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However, the > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never going > to correct on its own. > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte, > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his first > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction as > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other with > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I forgot > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me a > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my > expectations:> > Traditional Cranial Vault> Before 15mm> After 1stBand 11mm> After 2ndBand 5mm> > Cranial Vault> Before 19mm> After 1stBand 10mm> After 2ndBand 4mm> > Skull Base> Before 15mm> After 1stBand 10mm> After 2ndBand 6mm> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still see > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited to > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and skinnier > now without his band and seems to have grown into a "big boy" > overnight. > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed to > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it. > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a moderator > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!> > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)> Jordan-4.5>

October 2, 2008

I love Jake's cute round head! It gives me hope for my little

Jake! Congratulations!

Jenn

- 7 months: tort & plagio (STARband 2 weeks)

4

6

> >

> > Hi all-

> > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

> son

> > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

> with

> > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

> round

> > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

> the

> > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

tick

> > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

> going

> > to correct on its own.

> >

> > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

Charlotte,

> > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of

> > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

> first

> > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for

> > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We

> > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

> as

> > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he

> > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

> with

> > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> >

> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

his

> > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY

> > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late

> > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

> forgot

> > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed

me

> a

> > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> > expectations:

> >

> > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 11mm

> > After 2ndBand 5mm

> >

> > Cranial Vault

> > Before 19mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 4mm

> >

> > Skull Base

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 6mm

> >

> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

> see

> > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when

> > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

> to

> > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

> skinnier

> > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > overnight.

> >

> > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

too

> > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed

> to

> > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still

> > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

you

> > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> >

> > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

> moderator

> > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do

> > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some

> > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> >

> > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > Jordan-4.5

> >

>

October 20, 2008

I'm reading through various posts, and just read your story ,

and it sounds like you had great success and I checked out the photos

and Jakes little round head looks great. It's nice to hear you got

such great results even starting a little later. I'm curious why you

said that you recommend beginning banding between 6-9 months. I'm

curious because Merrick will turn 4-months next week and we decided

to band then. Actually we ahve to wait until next week because our

insurance won't cover it until then--but at this point we don't feel

a few days will hurt. Also, I see that you had the 'traditional'

cranial vault in additional to the cranial vault. I'm guessing that

is what you were getting at before when you mentioned that the

cranial vault might not measure everything if the flatness is low. I

wonder if this is something that I should ask for, or if they would

do it when they do the mold.

Mother to Merrick--16-weeks

4-weeks repo, awaiting DOC band

cranial vault 11mm, mid-face 5mm and skull-base 8mm

>

> Hi all-

> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my son

> Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born with

> tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would round

> out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However, the

> natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick

> away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never going

> to correct on its own.

>

> When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte,

> because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of

> experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

first

> DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for

> the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We

> decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction as

> we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he

> was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

with

> no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

>

> So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his

> DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY

> happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late

> start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I forgot

> to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me

a

> copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> expectations:

>

> Traditional Cranial Vault

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 11mm

> After 2ndBand 5mm

>

> Cranial Vault

> Before 19mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 4mm

>

> Skull Base

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 6mm

>

> All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still see

> the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when

> it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited to

> see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and skinnier

> now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> overnight.

>

> CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too

> late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed

to

> be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still

> always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you

> still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

>

> So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a moderator

> of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do

> with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some

> peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

>

> Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> Jordan-4.5

>

October 21, 2008

Hi -

I think I said 6-9 months because that is the average optimal time

to band, lots of parents do it before and later. I've heard of some

doctors and insurance companies that don't allow it until at least 6

months of age. Four months would be the youngest that most band

providers would consider banding. There can still be some repo

success between 4 and 6 months, but by 6 months, babies are more

mobile and sitting up on their own, so repo becomes less effective,

and parents typically turn to banding then. But you're not the only

one to decide to band early. If I had been told to band my son when

we first saw the neurosurgeon, he would have been 4 months old.

Both cranial vault and traditional cranial vault measure the top

portion of the head. CT told me to focus on the traditional cranial

vault number, that measurement is taken from specific anthropometric

landmarks on the skull (fz-eu). You can see what I'm talking about

at this site:

http://www.plagiocephaly.info/faqs/anthropometry.htm

I believe the " regular " cranial vault is less scientific in where

the calipers are placed, on the most prominent spot on the occiput

(fz-Ocp or Op, also shown at the link above). So for instance my

son's beginning TCV was 15mm and his CV was 19mm. So his CV actually

showed there was a more prominent area of his occiput beyond the eu

landmark, a 4mm difference. They most likely already took both

measurements at CT, and I'm sure just gave you the one that they are

going to use as a starting point. Although they don't put a whole

lot into the measurements as much as how the head actually looks

(they only measure before and after treatment, not during). The

portion of the head between the occiput and skull base level (ear

level and below) of the head is not measured, so that is the area I

was referring to, where you could gain growth (like my son did), but

may not have it quantified in numbers.

HTH!

Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

Jordan-4.5

> >

> > Hi all-

> > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

son

> > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

with

> > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

round

> > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

the

> > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

tick

> > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

going

> > to correct on its own.

> >

> > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

Charlotte,

> > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal

of

> > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

> first

> > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band

for

> > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes.

We

> > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

as

> > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band,

he

> > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

> with

> > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> >

> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

his

> > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

VERY

> > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

late

> > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

forgot

> > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed

me

> a

> > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> > expectations:

> >

> > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 11mm

> > After 2ndBand 5mm

> >

> > Cranial Vault

> > Before 19mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 4mm

> >

> > Skull Base

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 6mm

> >

> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

see

> > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

when

> > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

to

> > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

skinnier

> > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > overnight.

> >

> > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

too

> > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

seemed

> to

> > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

still

> > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

you

> > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> >

> > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

moderator

> > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to

do

> > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

some

> > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> >

> > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > Jordan-4.5

> >

>

November 8, 2008

Congratulations!!!

8 months seem to be such a long period of time, especially for a

baby... It must be a lot of hard work for you.

I just have a question about CT measurement. I don't know what is

considered normal, mild, moderate, or severe? Is there a standard?

Or is there a chart somewhere in the " Files " folder?

What would be a perfect, ideal head?

Traditional Cranial Vault: 0mm

Cranial Vault Asymmetry.: 0mm

Skull Base Asymmetry: 0mm

?

>

> Hi all-

> I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my son

> Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born with

> tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would round

> out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However, the

> natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would tick

> away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never going

> to correct on its own.

>

> When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in Charlotte,

> because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal of

> experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his first

> DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band for

> the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. We

> decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction as

> we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, he

> was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other with

> no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

>

> So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from his

> DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am VERY

> happy with his results, especially considering we had such a late

> start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I forgot

> to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed me a

> copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> expectations:

>

> Traditional Cranial Vault

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 11mm

> After 2ndBand 5mm

>

> Cranial Vault

> Before 19mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 4mm

>

> Skull Base

> Before 15mm

> After 1stBand 10mm

> After 2ndBand 6mm

>

> All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still see

> the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but when

> it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited to

> see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and skinnier

> now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> overnight.

>

> CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's too

> late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we seemed to

> be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will still

> always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but you

> still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

>

> So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a moderator

> of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to do

> with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find some

> peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

>

> Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> Jordan-4.5

>

November 8, 2008

Hi -

It depends on who you ask. The therapist at CT told us that " normal "

was 2-4 mm (I assume in each category) because no one has

a " perfect " head. Some say 0-3 mm is " normal. " I can still see my

son's asymmetry (mostly when his hair is wet) and his numbers are 5,

4 and 6mm (as you saw below), but that was after starting at such a

late age and was a huge improvement from where we started. If we

were only starting at those numbers, I would not have banded him

(and CT probably wouldn't have either, if I had tried, because

plagio has to be " bad enough " to even be able to correct it).

Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

Jordan-4.5

> >

> > Hi all-

> > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

son

> > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

with

> > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

round

> > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

the

> > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

tick

> > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

going

> > to correct on its own.

> >

> > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

Charlotte,

> > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal

of

> > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

first

> > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band

for

> > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes.

We

> > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

as

> > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band,

he

> > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

with

> > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> >

> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

his

> > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

VERY

> > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

late

> > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

forgot

> > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed

me a

> > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> > expectations:

> >

> > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 11mm

> > After 2ndBand 5mm

> >

> > Cranial Vault

> > Before 19mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 4mm

> >

> > Skull Base

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 6mm

> >

> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

see

> > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

when

> > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

to

> > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

skinnier

> > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > overnight.

> >

> > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

too

> > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

seemed to

> > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

still

> > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

you

> > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> >

> > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

moderator

> > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to

do

> > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

some

> > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> >

> > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > Jordan-4.5

> >

>

November 8, 2008

Marcus's first numbers were 8mm cranial vault, 2mm mid-face, and 3mm

skull base. I thought that was mild, but CT considered it moderate

and recommended banding. He has been in the band for a week now.

> > >

> > > Hi all-

> > > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

> son

> > > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

> with

> > > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

> round

> > > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

> the

> > > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

> tick

> > > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

> going

> > > to correct on its own.

> > >

> > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> > > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

> Charlotte,

> > > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal

> of

> > > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

> first

> > > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band

> for

> > > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes.

> We

> > > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

> as

> > > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band,

> he

> > > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

> with

> > > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> > >

> > > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

> his

> > > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

> VERY

> > > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

> late

> > > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

> forgot

> > > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed

> me a

> > > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> > > expectations:

> > >

> > > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > > Before 15mm

> > > After 1stBand 11mm

> > > After 2ndBand 5mm

> > >

> > > Cranial Vault

> > > Before 19mm

> > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > After 2ndBand 4mm

> > >

> > > Skull Base

> > > Before 15mm

> > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > After 2ndBand 6mm

> > >

> > > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

> see

> > > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

> when

> > > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

> to

> > > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

> skinnier

> > > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > > overnight.

> > >

> > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> > > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> > > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

> too

> > > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> > > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> > > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> > > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

> seemed to

> > > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> > > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

> still

> > > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

> you

> > > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> > >

> > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

> moderator

> > > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> > > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to

> do

> > > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

> some

> > > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> > >

> > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > > Jordan-4.5

> > >

> >

>

November 8, 2008

I think 8mm is significant enough to band, and I've heard of a

couple start at 7mm I think, but I haven't heard anything less than

6mm receiving treatment. Plus my son was 17 months old at the time

we started, so I'm not sure they would have thought it was worth it,

but because he was more toward severe (15,19,15), it was worth it to

try to get even a little bit of correction.

Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

Jordan-4.5

> > > >

> > > > Hi all-

> > > > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on

my

> > son

> > > > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was

born

> > with

> > > > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it

would

> > round

> > > > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions.

However,

> > the

> > > > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month

would

> > tick

> > > > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was

never

> > going

> > > > to correct on its own.

> > > >

> > > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to

write a

> > > > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

> > Charlotte,

> > > > because I had faith in their product and they had a great

deal

> > of

> > > > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received

his

> > first

> > > > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that

band

> > for

> > > > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive

changes.

> > We

> > > > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much

correction

> > as

> > > > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first

band,

> > he

> > > > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the

other

> > with

> > > > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16

weeks

> > > > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> > > >

> > > > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated

from

> > his

> > > > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

> > VERY

> > > > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

> > late

> > > > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't

be

> > > > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

> > forgot

> > > > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they

mailed

> > me a

> > > > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded

my

> > > > expectations:

> > > >

> > > > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > > > Before 15mm

> > > > After 1stBand 11mm

> > > > After 2ndBand 5mm

> > > >

> > > > Cranial Vault

> > > > Before 19mm

> > > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > > After 2ndBand 4mm

> > > >

> > > > Skull Base

> > > > Before 15mm

> > > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > > After 2ndBand 6mm

> > > >

> > > > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can

still

> > see

> > > > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

> > when

> > > > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so

excited

> > to

> > > > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

> > skinnier

> > > > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big

boy "

> > > > overnight.

> > > >

> > > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy,

but I

> > > > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it.

But I

> > > > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether

it's

> > too

> > > > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

It's

> > > > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help.

What I

> > > > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a

LITTLE

> > > > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

> > seemed to

> > > > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that

does

> > > > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

> > still

> > > > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if

your

> > > > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were,

but

> > you

> > > > still have the chance to do something even if it's later

than

> > > > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> > > >

> > > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

> > moderator

> > > > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

You're

> > > > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in

the

> > > > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what

to

> > do

> > > > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

> > some

> > > > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> > > >

> > > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > > > Jordan-4.5

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 8, 2008

Yes, I agree. 8mm was significant enough for me to repeatedly request

help and advice from his DRs. I wanted him to get treatment, but they

kept telling me it wasnt worth it and to wait and see. I'm glad I

pushed and got him a band even though he's only 4.5 months.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all-

> > > > > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on

> my

> > > son

> > > > > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was

> born

> > > with

> > > > > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it

> would

> > > round

> > > > > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions.

> However,

> > > the

> > > > > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month

> would

> > > tick

> > > > > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was

> never

> > > going

> > > > > to correct on its own.

> > > > >

> > > > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to

> write a

> > > > > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

> > > Charlotte,

> > > > > because I had faith in their product and they had a great

> deal

> > > of

> > > > > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received

> his

> > > first

> > > > > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that

> band

> > > for

> > > > > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive

> changes.

> > > We

> > > > > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much

> correction

> > > as

> > > > > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first

> band,

> > > he

> > > > > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the

> other

> > > with

> > > > > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16

> weeks

> > > > > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated

> from

> > > his

> > > > > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

> > > VERY

> > > > > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

> > > late

> > > > > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't

> be

> > > > > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

> > > forgot

> > > > > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they

> mailed

> > > me a

> > > > > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded

> my

> > > > > expectations:

> > > > >

> > > > > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > > > > Before 15mm

> > > > > After 1stBand 11mm

> > > > > After 2ndBand 5mm

> > > > >

> > > > > Cranial Vault

> > > > > Before 19mm

> > > > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > > > After 2ndBand 4mm

> > > > >

> > > > > Skull Base

> > > > > Before 15mm

> > > > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > > > After 2ndBand 6mm

> > > > >

> > > > > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can

> still

> > > see

> > > > > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

> > > when

> > > > > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so

> excited

> > > to

> > > > > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

> > > skinnier

> > > > > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big

> boy "

> > > > > overnight.

> > > > >

> > > > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy,

> but I

> > > > > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it.

> But I

> > > > > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether

> it's

> > > too

> > > > > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

> It's

> > > > > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help.

> What I

> > > > > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a

> LITTLE

> > > > > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

> > > seemed to

> > > > > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that

> does

> > > > > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

> > > still

> > > > > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if

> your

> > > > > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were,

> but

> > > you

> > > > > still have the chance to do something even if it's later

> than

> > > > > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> > > > >

> > > > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

> > > moderator

> > > > > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

> You're

> > > > > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in

> the

> > > > > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what

> to

> > > do

> > > > > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

> > > some

> > > > > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> > > > >

> > > > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > > > > Jordan-4.5

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 9, 2008

by the numbers my daughter was mild but due to facial assymetry she was bumped up to moderate category. we also have a docband

Tori-DOCband 5 weeks

From: aimeedavid2006 <aimeedavid2006@...>Subject: Re: Update on Jake (older baby with 2 DOCBands)Plagiocephaly Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 4:52 PM

Marcus's first numbers were 8mm cranial vault, 2mm mid-face, and 3mmskull base. I thought that was mild, but CT considered it moderateand recommended banding. He has been in the band for a week now.> > >> > > Hi all-> > > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my > son > > > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born > with > > > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would > round > > > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However, > the > > > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would > tick > > > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never > going > > > to correct on its

own. > > > > > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a > > > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in > Charlotte, > > > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal > of > > > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his > first > > > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band > for > > > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes. > We > > > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction > as > > > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band, > he > > > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other > with > > > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks > >

> allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.> > > > > > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from > his > > > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am > VERY > > > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a > late > > > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be > > > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I > forgot > > > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed > me a > > > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my > > > expectations:> > > > > > Traditional Cranial Vault> > > Before 15mm> > > After 1stBand 11mm> > > After 2ndBand 5mm> > > > > > Cranial

Vault> > > Before 19mm> > > After 1stBand 10mm> > > After 2ndBand 4mm> > > > > > Skull Base> > > Before 15mm> > > After 1stBand 10mm> > > After 2ndBand 6mm> > > > > > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still > see > > > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but > when > > > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited > to > > > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and > skinnier > > > now without his band and seems to have grown into a "big boy" > > > overnight. > > > > > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I > > > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I >

> > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's > too > > > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's > > > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I > > > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE > > > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we > seemed to > > > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does > > > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will > still > > > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your > > > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but > you > > > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than > > > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it. > > > >

> > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a > moderator > > > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're > > > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the > > > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to > do > > > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find > some > > > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!> > > > > > > > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)> > > Jordan-4.5> > >> >>

November 17, 2008

Hi :

I enjoyed reading your story - thanks for posting it. I have a

question about the torticollis. My son has this as well with

plagiocephaly and we will for go for banding soon. Does the

torticollis have to be resolved prior to banding? We are doing

physical therapy for his torticollis now so it is a work in

progress. Did Jake's torticollis resolve on its own?

Thank you,

chehemann@...

> >

> > Hi all-

> > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on my

son

> > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

with

> > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

round

> > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions. However,

the

> > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

tick

> > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

going

> > to correct on its own.

> >

> > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write a

> > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

Charlotte,

> > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal

of

> > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

first

> > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band

for

> > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes.

We

> > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much correction

as

> > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band,

he

> > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the other

with

> > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> >

> > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

his

> > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

VERY

> > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

late

> > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

forgot

> > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they mailed

me a

> > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded my

> > expectations:

> >

> > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 11mm

> > After 2ndBand 5mm

> >

> > Cranial Vault

> > Before 19mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 4mm

> >

> > Skull Base

> > Before 15mm

> > After 1stBand 10mm

> > After 2ndBand 6mm

> >

> > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can still

see

> > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

when

> > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so excited

to

> > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

skinnier

> > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > overnight.

> >

> > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but I

> > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But I

> > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

too

> > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. It's

> > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What I

> > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a LITTLE

> > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

seemed to

> > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that does

> > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

still

> > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

you

> > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> >

> > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

moderator

> > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. You're

> > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to

do

> > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

some

> > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> >

> > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > Jordan-4.5

> >

>

November 20, 2008

Hi! Sorry for the delay in responding...

No, the tort does not need to be resolved before banding. My son's

was, only because we didn't band him until he was 17 months old, and

he had been out of PT for the tort since he was 6 months old. But a

lot of babies are treated simultaneously for both. And no, Jake's

tort did not resolve on it's own. He started PT when he was 2 months

old, once a week, then progressed to once every other week, then had

a 1 month follow up and was released from PT when he was 6 months

old. I think starting early really helped us resolve the problem

faster. And he's never had any residual effects (thus far).

Hope that helps!

Jake-2 (DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

Jordan-4.5

> > >

> > > Hi all-

> > > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on

my

> son

> > > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was born

> with

> > > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it would

> round

> > > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions.

However,

> the

> > > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month would

> tick

> > > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was never

> going

> > > to correct on its own.

> > >

> > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to write

a

> > > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

> Charlotte,

> > > because I had faith in their product and they had a great deal

> of

> > > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received his

> first

> > > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that band

> for

> > > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive changes.

> We

> > > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much

correction

> as

> > > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first band,

> he

> > > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the

other

> with

> > > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16 weeks

> > > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> > >

> > > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated from

> his

> > > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

> VERY

> > > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

> late

> > > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't be

> > > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

> forgot

> > > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they

mailed

> me a

> > > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded

my

> > > expectations:

> > >

> > > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > > Before 15mm

> > > After 1stBand 11mm

> > > After 2ndBand 5mm

> > >

> > > Cranial Vault

> > > Before 19mm

> > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > After 2ndBand 4mm

> > >

> > > Skull Base

> > > Before 15mm

> > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > After 2ndBand 6mm

> > >

> > > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can

still

> see

> > > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

> when

> > > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so

excited

> to

> > > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

> skinnier

> > > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big boy "

> > > overnight.

> > >

> > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy, but

I

> > > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it. But

I

> > > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether it's

> too

> > > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

It's

> > > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help. What

I

> > > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a

LITTLE

> > > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

> seemed to

> > > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that

does

> > > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

> still

> > > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if your

> > > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were, but

> you

> > > still have the chance to do something even if it's later than

> > > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> > >

> > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

> moderator

> > > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

You're

> > > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in the

> > > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what to

> do

> > > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

> some

> > > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> > >

> > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > > Jordan-4.5

> > >

> >

>

November 21, 2008

Thanks , I appreciate your information.

Aloha,

> > > >

> > > > Hi all-

> > > > I just wanted to give anyone who was interested an update on

> my

> > son

> > > > Jake. For those of you who don't know our story, Jake was

born

> > with

> > > > tort that led to plagio. A number of doctors told us it

would

> > round

> > > > out on its own, so we trusted those doctors' opinions.

> However,

> > the

> > > > natural improvement was VERY minimal and as every month

would

> > tick

> > > > away, I would become more and more stressed that it was

never

> > going

> > > > to correct on its own.

> > > >

> > > > When Jake was 16 months old, we FINALLY got a doctor to

write

> a

> > > > script for a band and we chose to go to Cranial Tech in

> > Charlotte,

> > > > because I had faith in their product and they had a great

deal

> > of

> > > > experience with older babies (over 12 months). He received

his

> > first

> > > > DOCBand on 2/11/08 at 17 months 1 week old. He wore that

band

> > for

> > > > the full 16 weeks allowed and we saw visible positive

changes.

> > We

> > > > decided to pursue a second band to try to get as much

> correction

> > as

> > > > we could before he turned 2, so at 14 weeks in the first

band,

> > he

> > > > was scanned for the second and went right from one to the

> other

> > with

> > > > no break. Again, he wore the second band for the full 16

weeks

> > > > allowed, and again we saw visible positive change.

> > > >

> > > > So, after 32 weeks, I can happily say that Jake graduated

from

> > his

> > > > DOCBand last Friday (9/19/08) at 24 months 2 weeks old. I am

> > VERY

> > > > happy with his results, especially considering we had such a

> > late

> > > > start. I really had my expectations low so that I wouldn't

be

> > > > disappointed. On Friday, I was so excited to be done, that I

> > forgot

> > > > to ask for his final measurements, but I called and they

> mailed

> > me a

> > > > copy of them, which I just got today. They actually exceeded

> my

> > > > expectations:

> > > >

> > > > Traditional Cranial Vault

> > > > Before 15mm

> > > > After 1stBand 11mm

> > > > After 2ndBand 5mm

> > > >

> > > > Cranial Vault

> > > > Before 19mm

> > > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > > After 2ndBand 4mm

> > > >

> > > > Skull Base

> > > > Before 15mm

> > > > After 1stBand 10mm

> > > > After 2ndBand 6mm

> > > >

> > > > All within the very mild range, I can't believe it! I can

> still

> > see

> > > > the imperfections when his hair is wet and slicked down, but

> > when

> > > > it's dry, you can't see anything off at all. I'm just so

> excited

> > to

> > > > see his pretty red curls all the time. He looks taller and

> > skinnier

> > > > now without his band and seems to have grown into a " big

boy "

> > > > overnight.

> > > >

> > > > CT is supposed to email me his last comparison photostudy,

but

> I

> > > > have not received it yet. As soon as I do, I will post it.

But

> I

> > > > just wanted to let anyone know who is questioning whether

it's

> > too

> > > > late to go through the banding process, IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

> It's

> > > > definitely worth trying, it can't hurt, it can only help.

What

> I

> > > > told myself going into this was, if I can just make it a

> LITTLE

> > > > better, I will be happy. And I'm just really happy that we

> > seemed to

> > > > be able to make it A LOT better. Any natural rounding that

> does

> > > > occur as he gets older, will just be an added bonus. I will

> > still

> > > > always recommend banding way earlier (6-9 months), but if

your

> > > > concerns were pushed aside again and again like mine were,

but

> > you

> > > > still have the chance to do something even if it's later

than

> > > > recommended, PLEASE go for it. It's really worth it.

> > > >

> > > > So that's our story now. Some of you know that I'm also a

> > moderator

> > > > of the board, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

> You're

> > > > stuck with me! But I wanted to post an update so anyone in

the

> > > > future who shows up on the board frantic for advice on what

to

> > do

> > > > with their older baby (like I did 8 months ago!), might find

> > some

> > > > peace of mind in our experience. Thanks for reading!

> > > >

> > > > Jake-2 (tort resolved/DOCBand Grad 9/19/08)

> > > > Jordan-4.5

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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