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Contact dperkins@... He had the same condition but beat it with other protocols. He is a very nice person and will speak to you telephonically if you wish. His website and story is on www.betterwayhealth.com

I know him personally.

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[low dose naltrexone] LDN failure

I have been on LDN for one year and went into remission of non hodekins folicular lymphoma. Now cancer is growing again more aggressive than before. Anyone have any sugjestions or has experienced same?

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Thank you so Much!

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low dose naltrexone From: isiinc@...Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 14:25:29 -0400Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN failure

Contact dperkinsbetterwayhelath He had the same condition but beat it with other protocols. He is a very nice person and will speak to you telephonically if you wish. His website and story is on www.betterwayhealth.com

I know him personally.

Peeblesemail: isiincbellsouth (DOT) net

[low dose naltrexone] LDN failure

I have been on LDN for one year and went into remission of non hodekins folicular lymphoma. Now cancer is growing again more aggressive than before. Anyone have any sugjestions or has experienced same?

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Thank you!

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low dose naltrexone From: cyber_guy_2006@...Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 14:23:08 -0400Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN failure

Hi,Beside LDN, there is much you can to fight your cancer--withoutchemotherapy, surgery, or radiation. See, for example, this site:http://www.webspawner.com/users/canceralternatives/index.htmlRegards,Cyberguycyberguy2_2006

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> I have been on LDN for one year and went into remission of non

hodekins

> folicular lymphoma. Now cancer is growing again more aggressive

than

> before. Anyone have any sugjestions or has experienced same?

>

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Be sure you are getting quality LDN from one of the LDN compounding

pharmacies on the LDN website. What filler is being used in your LDN

capsules? Continue to take LDN at the full recommended dose of 4.5mg

and try taking it at 10pm every night.

You need to do research on how to keep your diet as Alkaline as

possible.

Brownwood Acres Red Tart Cherry Juice Concentrate

Good for cancer, has a natural chemotherapy agent.

Brownwood Acres Red Tart Cherry Juice Concentrate.

http://www.brownwoodacres.com/cherry_health3.htm

Brownwood Acres Red Tart Cherry Juice

http://www.brownwoodacres.com/cherry.htm

I can help you get in touch with Dr. Burton Berkson who has been using

intravenous Alpha Lipoic Acid and the LDN protocol on pancreatic

cancer and other cancers. He's in New Mexico and will be speaking at

my LDN Conference in Nashville this fall. If interested in contacting

Dr. Berkson, email me privately.

/Bren

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> I have been on LDN for one year and went into remission of non

hodekins

> folicular lymphoma. Now cancer is growing again more aggressive than

> before. Anyone have any sugjestions or has experienced same?

>

Stan,

For your cancer this site is worth checking out:

http://survivecancerfoundation.org/

Hopefully the site owner, Bruce, will come online and help you.

Best of luck.

Artie

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A pharmacy that has kept my mom cancer free for 3 years, my grandma

cancer free for 2 years and her Alzheimer's stable for 2 years and has

kept my MS progression halted for 4 1/2 years is Cantrell Drug in

Little Rock, AR. Their website is still a bit under new construction

but you can click on General Information and then click on the

pharmcists link and see the pharmacists and their bio's. Dell

McCarley is from my birthtown, we left there when I was 10. Our

families knew one another so that has been a huge plus by using this

pharmacy. A bit more expensive than some pharmacies but well worth

the $45.00 a month.

Cantrell Drug

http://www.cantrelldrug.com/

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Another way to get around the fillers issue with LDN, is to get the transdermal LDN developed for Dr McCandless. The cream is just rubbed into the skin.

I think this is a method to consider for anyone with a compromised gut or who is older where absorption may be diminished.

mjh

Posted by: "cyber_guy_2006@..." cyber_guy_2006@... cyberguy2_2006

Fri May 4, 2007 9:08 am (PST)

Hi Jerry,A lot of people have trouble with the fillers that pharmacies use tocompound LDN, and some pharmacies are not always consistent in thequality of their compounding.May I suggest you get Naltrexone in 50 mg tablets and make your own LDNaccording to the instructions athttp://goodshape.net/HomemadeLDN.htmlRegards,CyberguySee what's free at AOL.com.

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> I don't want to rock the boat by saying this but I feel it may be of

help to someone. It is my personal belief that you should sporadically

take a day or two off from LDN perhaps every 10 days or so. This could

amount to 4 or 5 days a month. This raises the probability to me that

my body does not become used to the LDN and the condition figures out

another way to become more powerful. The body acclimates to things

easily like an exercise routine that you do over and over or the same

supplement day after day. I know this will raise alot of opinions but

I agree with Dr. Lawrence's previous views on taking a day off here

and there. This applies to so many meds and supplements so it just

makes good sense to me on a physiological level. Just trying to keep

people taking LDN and realizing that it isn't only the filler that

should be looked at when a problem arises. Best, Kathy

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For cancer patients Dr. Bihari was very much against taking a break,

you allow the endorphins to drop by doing that. The only time a

cancer patient should take a break is during a surgical procedure or

need of a narcotic. My mom has only missed 4 capsules in 3 years.

When she missed, it was due to needing minor surgery.

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-- Dr. ce used to promote skipping a day, also but not

anymore. He and Dr. Bihari both advise taking LDN each night.

- In low dose naltrexone , " Bren " <b63powell@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > I don't want to rock the boat by saying this but I feel it may be

of

> help to someone. It is my personal belief that you should

sporadically

> take a day or two off from LDN perhaps every 10 days or so. This

could

> amount to 4 or 5 days a month. This raises the probability to me

that

> my body does not become used to the LDN and the condition figures

out

> another way to become more powerful. The body acclimates to things

> easily like an exercise routine that you do over and over or the

same

> supplement day after day. I know this will raise alot of opinions

but

> I agree with Dr. Lawrence's previous views on taking a day off here

> and there. This applies to so many meds and supplements so it just

> makes good sense to me on a physiological level. Just trying to keep

> people taking LDN and realizing that it isn't only the filler that

> should be looked at when a problem arises. Best, Kathy

> ===========

>

> For cancer patients Dr. Bihari was very much against taking a break,

> you allow the endorphins to drop by doing that. The only time a

> cancer patient should take a break is during a surgical procedure or

> need of a narcotic. My mom has only missed 4 capsules in 3 years.

> When she missed, it was due to needing minor surgery.

>

> B

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> Hi Guys and Gals,

>

> Not all people react the same way to a medication. For example, a

fairly

> unusual side effect of the 50 mg Naltrexone tablets is diarrhea.

Since

> starting on LDN (at 4.5 mg), I have experienced that disconcerting

> reaction almost every day--like clockwork--from about 4 to 5 pm. And

the

> same thing happens whether it is in liquid or capsule form.

>

> If there are any pharmacists in this group, maybe thay can correct

me if

> I'm wrong, but in my experience as a registered nurse, I seem to

recall

> that some people build up a resistance to a drug over time, and need

> larger and larger doses of it to get the same effect. Also, I think

some

> drugs just lose their effect completely over time, or develop such

> serious adverse effects that they have to be discontinued. Other

people

> can take a drug for a lifetime with no problems.

>

> Go figure!

>

> Regards,

>

> Cyberguy

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I assume the liquid was prepared from the 50mg tablets. How are your

capsules prepared, do they crush the 50mg tablets and add a filler or

is it made from pure naltrexone powder and a filler added(if done this

way what is the filler)?

Have you tried LDN made with pure naltrexone power with no filler to

see how your stomach handles it or the transdermal LDN from Tyrus

's Coastal Compounding in Savannah, GA and bypass the gut

altogether?

A trial of higher dose Naltrexone was done for MS years ago and high

dose nalrexone made MS worsen, higher dose naltrexone will do the same

with cancer, it accelerates cancer growth.

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Dee,I couldn't agree more! I have gone off LDN only once and when I did all my MS symptoms returned with 36 hours. It was amazing -- as soon as the LDN exited my system my walking became more uncoordinated, slow, spastic, whatever you want to call it...it was bad!! I don't think skipping doses is a good idea unless your doctor tells you it is specifically necessary. Just my humble opinion of course Chrisie> > > >> > > > I don't want to rock the boat by saying this but> > I feel it may be > > of > > > help to someone. It is my personal belief that you> > should > > sporadically > > > take a day or two off from LDN perhaps every 10> > days or so. This > > could > > > amount to 4 or 5 days a month. This raises the> > probability to me > > that > > > my body does not become used to the LDN and the> > condition figures > > out > > > another way to become more powerful. The body> > acclimates to things > > > easily like an exercise routine that you do over> > and over or the > > same > > > supplement day after day. I know this will raise> > alot of opinions > > but > > > I agree with Dr. Lawrence's previous views on> > taking a day off here > > > and there. This applies to so many meds and> > supplements so it just > > > makes good sense to me on a physiological level.> > Just trying to keep > > > people taking LDN and realizing that it isn't only> > the filler that > > > should be looked at when a problem arises. Best,> > Kathy> > > ===========> > > > > > For cancer patients Dr. Bihari was very much> > against taking a break, > > > you allow the endorphins to drop by doing that. > > The only time a > > > cancer patient should take a break is during a> > surgical procedure or > > > need of a narcotic. My mom has only missed 4> > capsules in 3 years. > > > When she missed, it was due to needing minor> > surgery. > > > > > > B> > > > > > > __________________________________________________>

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> mjh - that's what i ordered - transdermal; but i thought it was a

patch!!

> doesn't matter if it is a rub-on cream, though!! i think it will

work better

> for the crohn's patients, too!! i do suffer with mal-absorption;

that's one

> of the reasons why i take sooooo many supplements!! don't get the

proper

> nutrition benefits from food that the healthy folks do!! my dr. is

now telling

> me that with another flare within the next year, he's thinking of

surgery, or

> starting me on another CRAB -med - HUMIRA!! don't want to go

that route;

> will be praying that the cream gets here on time - will be weaned

off steroid

> in 3 wks.!!

>

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The patch will not deliver the LDN into the bloodstream fast enough to

work. Have your pharmacist call Tyrus at Coastal Compounding in

Savannah, GA for the proper transdermal LDN formulation, only a

licensed phrmacist may call for this formulation.

Crohn's sufferers need digestive enzymes to break down foods for

proper digestion and absorption.

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