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> I started peptizide and zyme prime for my 8 1/2 yr. old daughter

>>After 2 days again she became hyper,

> regressed and vocalising. I started giving Magnesium, she slept

> better. Is this a " withdral " or she cannot tolerate enzymes?

To me, this sounds like she might have phenol issues. Try No-Fenol enzyme.

> She eats mini rice waffle one each 3 times a day. She doesn't take

> any other food except rice cake, popcorn,some biscuits and some home

> made rice snacks.

My son did not tolerate rice, even with enzymes. He did okay with the small

amount of rice in the HNI enzymes, but not any more

than that. Popcorn was a definite no-no, even with enzymes. But your child

might do okay with No-Fenol.

The problem with the vitamins is a real sign of phenol issues.

Dana

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Taurine-an amino acid is calming for many.

Liz D.

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Hi all,

I need some input from you all. I have a nine year old autistic son, who is

presently on the GFCF diet. I tried enzymes for him last year for about 8 months

and did not find much improvement. He is on Calcium, codliver oil,

nystatin,folic acid, vitamin B complex, vit C (since about six months), along

with Tegretol for seizures (since about 2years)

He is able to speak mainly for requests, no spontaneous speech or questions. He

is at present in grade 4 in a regular school and goes to school with his own

aide. He can do simple math (adding subtraction, multiplication and division,

just starting fractions) His comprehension is very poor.

Since about two months he has started some digusting behaviours. He is

constantly rubbing himself on furniture, cushions and people. Has started

touching others on the face, chest and crotch. He has also started screaming

when he does not get his way. He screams very loud. I dont want to start him on

any medication which will leave him 'drugged' and zombie like. I am lookimg to

start him on some other supplements or herbs to calm him and reduce his gross

habits.

Any suggestions? Thank you all in advance.

S.Nag

India Education Special: Study in the UK now.

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sushma_nag2002@... writes:

> He is constantly rubbing himself on furniture, cushions and people. Has

> started touching others on the face, chest and crotch. He has also started

> screaming when he does not get his way.

This sounds like a yeast problem to me. Have you tried giving him a drop of

GSE twice a day (in a cap if he can swallow them) or a drop of oil of oregano

twice a day....My son does the rubbing thing too, and the screaming, and GSE

and OoO help tremendously.

Nell

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> Since about two months he has started some digusting behaviours. He

is constantly rubbing himself on furniture, cushions and people. Has

started touching others on the face, chest and crotch. He has also

started screaming when he does not get his way.

Many of these behaviors sound like my son when he had yeast

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

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Sounds a little like yeast to me. There are different types of yeast

problems, and the Nystatin may not be having the affect you need. Have you

ever tried GSE? GSE can amp up a med. so I'd be careful as far as timing it

away from the seizure med.

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>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I need some input from you all. I have a nine year old autistic son, who

is presently on the GFCF diet. I tried enzymes for him last year for about 8

months and did not find much improvement. He is on Calcium, codliver oil,

nystatin,folic acid, vitamin B complex, vit C (since about six months),

along with Tegretol for seizures (since about 2years)

>

> He is able to speak mainly for requests, no spontaneous speech or

questions. He is at present in grade 4 in a regular school and goes to

school with his own aide. He can do simple math (adding subtraction,

multiplication and division, just starting fractions) His comprehension is

very poor.

>

> Since about two months he has started some digusting behaviours. He is

constantly rubbing himself on furniture, cushions and people. Has started

touching others on the face, chest and crotch. He has also started screaming

when he does not get his way. He screams very loud. I dont want to start him

on any medication which will leave him 'drugged' and zombie like. I am

lookimg to start him on some other supplements or herbs to calm him and

reduce his gross habits.

>

> Any suggestions? Thank you all in advance.

>

> S.Nag

>

>

> India Education Special: Study in the UK now.

>

>

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No Fenol will help for the phenol aspect of the problem, but not the amine,

at least as far as I know. My son also couldn't handle carrots, tomatoes,

etc. etc. He still can't handle orange juice, but we gave him a banana the

other day and there wasn't a meltdown, just dark circles under his eyes.

Either he can't handle the amines, which I suspect or the banana feeds

something in his gut that is bad for him, also a potential answer. Either

way we avoid orange juice still and that banana was the first in many

months. All foods have phenols, but some of them I call the phenol big guns,

like tomatoes, cocoa etc. are now well tolerated by my son on a daily

basis. Has made cooking and his subsequent health much better. Hope this

helps.

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> Hi all,

>

> My 3 year old is on SCD for about 5 months. I started him on

> Thropps enzymes on 27 December 2003. 1/4 capsule on meals. They

> have been helpful but he still has problems with some foods. Also

> if I forget to give him the Thropps he's ok.

>

> The thing is this, whilst digestion is really good now, in that

> there is no D, he still stims and if he eats certain foods his bm's

> become softer and his behaviours becaome more ASD. The culprit

> foods seem to be almonds. I suspect tomatoes b when I remove them

> from his diet it doesn't change the severity of his stims.

>

> I have pulled banana's from his diet a long time ago because I

> thought he might not be tolerating phenols, but he is still

> stimming. I'm going to give him some banana today and see what

> happens. His paediatrician thinks he may be sensitive to amines and

> saciliates ( I know I haven't spelt that right but hope you know

> what I mean). Whilst these are present in tomatoe, they are also

> present in carrot & spinach. He eats a lot of this. I am loathe to

> pull anymore foods from his die. As it is he has become a very

> picky eater and meal times have become a nightmare.

>

> Is there any other enzyme somone could recommend to help him digest

> foods with phenols, amines & saciliates.

>

> Thanks

>

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> The thing is this, whilst digestion is really good now, in that

> there is no D, he still stims and if he eats certain foods his bm's

> become softer and his behaviours becaome more ASD. The culprit

> foods seem to be almonds. I suspect tomatoes b when I remove them

> from his diet it doesn't change the severity of his stims.

Almonds and tomatoes are high phenol. You need to consider reducing

his ENTIRE phenol load, not just a few items

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Or consider No-Fenol enzyme

http://www.houstonni.com/

> I have pulled banana's from his diet a long time ago because I

> thought he might not be tolerating phenols, but he is still

> stimming.

What sort of stims?

I'm going to give him some banana today and see what

> happens. His paediatrician thinks he may be sensitive to amines and

> saciliates ( I know I haven't spelt that right but hope you know

> what I mean).

Yes, amines and salicylates are both subsets of phenol.

>> Whilst these are present in tomatoe, they are also

> present in carrot & spinach. He eats a lot of this. I am loathe to

> pull anymore foods from his die.

My son did not tolerate tomatoes, carrots, or spinach with No-Fenol

enzyme [they are orange/green/red], but he did tolerate most nuts,

bananas, apples [peeled], and several other fruits with No-Fenol.

> Is there any other enzyme somone could recommend to help him digest

> foods with phenols, amines & saciliates.

No-Fenol is the only one I have used. But like I said, it did not

help with certain foods. You can try removing those foods and using

No-Fenol with the rest of them, see if that helps your child.

Chelation removed my son's orange/red/green problem

http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm

Good luck.

Dana

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Who interpreted the hair test? Mercury is not the only bad guy.

A blood test will only show very recent exposure to mercury, if

anything.

Pam

>

> My son has autism and is three years old. He is non verbal. We

have

> been giving 25 hours of ABA for a week for more than one year. He

is

> not at all progressing. We did test for mercury blood and DDI hair

> test too. He doesn't have any mercury issue. I would like you all

to

> suggest any doctor or treatment center any where in U.S, I can

take

> him to find out the underlying problem in him and for treatment.

> Thank you.

>

>

> Chan

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> My son has autism and is three years old. He is non verbal. We have

> been giving 25 hours of ABA for a week for more than one year. He is

> not at all progressing. We did test for mercury blood and DDI hair

> test too. He doesn't have any mercury issue.

The way you put this makes it seem likely he actually does have one,

but that he doesn't have a sophisticated doctor.

Would you like to go check

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html

and see if he has a mercury problem or not? Remember, most kids with

mercury problems have unusually LOW hair mercury levels.

If you have a Hair Toxic Element Exposure Profile instead of a Hair

Element Profile you simply don't have enough infomration to decide yet.

Nobody with any sense is going to consider heavy metals ruled out

without a trial of chelation anyway. Sometimes they just don't show up

- lead is notorious for this.

> I would like you all to

> suggest any doctor or treatment center any where in U.S, I can take

> him to find out the underlying problem in him and for treatment.

L. , ARNP, Seattle WA (206) 760-9266

Anja Usman, MD near Chicago

Larry DO near Philadelphia (215) 412-4910

If none of these are convenient contact me privately and let me know

where you are and I'll see if I know anyone closer.

> Thank you.

>

>

> Chan

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Hi Chan,

I'm not Andy but suggest you identify and reduce/eliminate exposure to antimony,

arsenic, and aluminum and consider chelating for them. ALA chelate arsenic,

SAMe for antimony (supplement B vitamins so as not to increase homocysteine),

and apple pectin/malic acid for aluminum.

S

From: chan2shawn [mailto: chan2shawn@...]

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:26:53 -0000

Subject: [ ] Need Help

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Andy,<BR>

       This is my son's DDI hair test result.Can you let me know <BR>

what you thing? I have done thyroid test too, it is all normal.<BR>

         I live in Toronto canada.If you know any good DAN doctor <BR>

close by let me know other wise I can take him to Anju Usman as you <BR>

suggested.<BR>

        This test was done about 6 Months before.He is now three <BR>

years old.He is non verbal and not improving at all with lot of ABA.<BR>

<BR>

Thank you,<BR>

Chan<BR>

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POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS<BR>

> > element result ref range color<BR>

> > ==============================================<BR>

> > aluminum   17     < 8.0   yellow<BR>

> > antimony  0.62    < .066  red<BR>

> > arsenic   0.14    < .08   yellow<BR>

> > beryllium 0.01   < 0.02<BR>

> > bismuth   0.012  < 0.13  green<BR>

> > cadmium   0.048  <0.15   green<BR>

> > lead      0.80   <1.0    green<BR>

> > mercury   0.28   <0.4    green<BR>

> > nickel    0.06   < 0.4   green<BR>

> > platinum  0.003  < .005  no line ]<BR>

> > thallium  0.001  < .01   no line ]<BR>

> > thorium   0.001  < .005  no line<BR>

> > uranium   0.021  < .06    no line<BR>

> > silver    0.12   < .1    green<BR>

> > tin       0.74   < .3    yellow <BR>

> > titanium  1.0    < 1.0   green<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS <BR>

> element       result    ref range    color    under/over 50% <BR>

> ============================================================ <BR>

> Calcium       228       125-370       white            50%<BR>

> Magnesium     15         12-30        green            under<BR>

> Sodium        95         12.90         green           0ver<BR>

> Potassium     200        12-40         red             over<BR>

> Copper        13         8.0-16        green           over<BR>

> Zinc          110        100-190       green           under<BR>

> Manganese     0.15       0.20-0.55     yellow          under<BR>

> Chromium      0.32       0.26-0.50      green         under  <BR>

> vanadium      0.028      0.030-0.10     yellow        under <BR>

> Molybdenum    0.14       0.050-0.13     yellow        over<BR>

> Boron         12         0.60-4.0       red           over<BR>

> Iodine         1.2       0.25-1.3       green         over<BR>

> Lithium        0.004     0.007-0.023     red         under<BR>

> Phosphorus     240       160-250         green         over<BR>

> Selenium       1.4        0.95-1.7       green         over<BR>

> Strontium      0.35       0.16-1.0       white         50%<BR>

> sulfur         49300      45500-53000    green         over<BR>

> Barium         0.26        0.16-0.80     green         under<BR>

> Cobalt         0.011       0.013-0.035   yellow         under<BR>

> Iron            9.2        8.0-19        green          under<BR>

> Germanium      0.064       0.045-0.065   green           over<BR>

> Rubidium       0.34       0.016-0.18    yellow         over<BR>

> Zirconium      0.25        0.040-1.0      green         under<BR>

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While this test doesn't meet the counting rules, it is supsiciously

close. I would definitely try chelation with this kid.

Please post the actual numbers for the thyroid tests, and the asserted

reference ranges (and send me the post number where you did that

privately).

Andy . .. . .. . .

>

> Andy,

> This is my son's DDI hair test result.Can you let me know

> what you thing? I have done thyroid test too, it is all normal.

> I live in Toronto canada.If you know any good DAN doctor

> close by let me know other wise I can take him to Anju Usman as you

> suggested.

> This test was done about 6 Months before.He is now three

> years old.He is non verbal and not improving at all with lot of ABA.

>

> Thank you,

> Chan

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> > > element result ref range color

> > > ==============================================

> > > aluminum 17 < 8.0 yellow

> > > antimony 0.62 < .066 red

> > > arsenic 0.14 < .08 yellow

> > > beryllium 0.01 < 0.02

> > > bismuth 0.012 < 0.13 green

> > > cadmium 0.048 <0.15 green

> > > lead 0.80 <1.0 green

> > > mercury 0.28 <0.4 green

> > > nickel 0.06 < 0.4 green

> > > platinum 0.003 < .005 no line ]

> > > thallium 0.001 < .01 no line ]

> > > thorium 0.001 < .005 no line

> > > uranium 0.021 < .06 no line

> > > silver 0.12 < .1 green

> > > tin 0.74 < .3 yellow

> > > titanium 1.0 < 1.0 green

> >

> >

> >

> > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> > element result ref range color under/over 50%

> > ============================================================

> > Calcium 228 125-370 white 50%

> > Magnesium 15 12-30 green under

> > Sodium 95 12.90 green 0ver

> > Potassium 200 12-40 red over

> > Copper 13 8.0-16 green over

> > Zinc 110 100-190 green under

> > Manganese 0.15 0.20-0.55 yellow under

> > Chromium 0.32 0.26-0.50 green under

> > vanadium 0.028 0.030-0.10 yellow under

> > Molybdenum 0.14 0.050-0.13 yellow over

> > Boron 12 0.60-4.0 red over

> > Iodine 1.2 0.25-1.3 green over

> > Lithium 0.004 0.007-0.023 red under

> > Phosphorus 240 160-250 green over

> > Selenium 1.4 0.95-1.7 green over

> > Strontium 0.35 0.16-1.0 white 50%

> > sulfur 49300 45500-53000 green over

> > Barium 0.26 0.16-0.80 green under

> > Cobalt 0.011 0.013-0.035 yellow under

> > Iron 9.2 8.0-19 green under

> > Germanium 0.064 0.045-0.065 green over

> > Rubidium 0.34 0.016-0.18 yellow over

> > Zirconium 0.25 0.040-1.0 green under

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I should have posted my hands experience but have been down for the last few

days. Anyhow, I had a really bad time with my hands, so I got a paraffin

bath. It did help, and now it's sitting on the shelf and my hands are

happier. Maybe that will help you.

Dennis

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> Hi Kim, Did you get my other message? I hope so. Anyway, if you

> need anything just email me. I am new at this and I am not sure

> sometimes if I am doing it right! Hang in there with your hands and

> since I already responded once to your email, I won't repeat myself,

> but let me know if you did not get it and then I will be happy to.

> Good luck. Tracie

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Doris,

We have a grandson who was lead/mercury toxic at age 2. He

was 'behind' on all his immunizations due to numerous ear/throat

infections. He was a quick responder to biomedical interventions and

entered kindergarten this year with no one the wiser. His younger

brother, age 4 now, has had no immunizations and has been the

healthiest of our 5 grandchildren. I would suggest holding off on

remaining immunizations until your little one is much older[if ever!]

>

> Hi all,

> maybe am immaginig things.I have a 4yr old son who is autistic

although he is doing well.

>

> Now i have a baby who is 9months old and sometimes i do get

frightened about her.she looked exactly like my son when she was

born.because of my son,i had to space her immunization schedule more

than required.i feel she is small for her age,weighs 8kg although she

is a fussy eater and throws up quite a lot after feeds.she does not

tolerate mashed food so i had to be blending her food into a

puree.She does not like baby milk so still on breast milk.

> She is about to walk but sometimes when she stands up,i feel that

her toes are curled inwards and i try to strenghten them.

>

> She had a high fever last week with raised white blood cell count

and her doctor prescribed an antibiotic.I and my husband had to give

her probiotic to be on the safe side

>

> We live in Nigeria and autism biomedics is not common and most

doctors here do not understand them nor the protocols. what should i

do? should i give candex which my son is on? Is there a particular

test i can do to detect things earlier ? Should i wait or am I

imaging them

>

> Please do hope for speedy responce.

> rgds Doris

>

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Hi Doris.

I would be afraid to immunize my child at all until she is four or older. To

get over chicken pox is easier than to get over autism. I do believe that you

should continue with breast milk as it is far more superior food. Candex only

works on yeast, so if you see yeast symptoms you could try it.

Symptoms are:

Night waking

spacey

Red rind around anus or diaper rash

diaper rash

if you have any of these for a baby, you may want to treat it.

Spitting up (reflux) need to be looked into. I would recommend that you add

digestive enzymes and probiotic to her regime on routine basis as will as a

little bit of cod liver oil.

best,

Haleh

--- Doris Izuwah <dorisizuwah@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> maybe am immaginig things.I have a 4yr old son who is autistic although he

> is doing well.

>

> Now i have a baby who is 9months old and sometimes i do get frightened

> about her.she looked exactly like my son when she was born.because of my

> son,i had to space her immunization schedule more than required.i feel she

> is small for her age,weighs 8kg although she is a fussy eater and throws up

> quite a lot after feeds.she does not tolerate mashed food so i had to be

> blending her food into a puree.She does not like baby milk so still on

> breast milk.

> She is about to walk but sometimes when she stands up,i feel that her toes

> are curled inwards and i try to strenghten them.

>

> She had a high fever last week with raised white blood cell count and her

> doctor prescribed an antibiotic.I and my husband had to give her probiotic

> to be on the safe side

>

> We live in Nigeria and autism biomedics is not common and most doctors

> here do not understand them nor the protocols. what should i do? should i

> give candex which my son is on? Is there a particular test i can do to

> detect things earlier ? Should i wait or am I imaging them

>

> Please do hope for speedy responce.

> rgds Doris

>

>

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Hi Doris:

I notice you already have several posts telling you to stay clear of

vaccines. My first child is partially vaccinated and my second is not

vaccinated at all. Because you live in Africa where the risks of disease

are different than in North America, and in some cases the laws are

different as well, I would never presume to tell you how to make that

decision! However I do agree that very wide spacing is safest if you choose

to continue and I very much hope you have thimerosal free versions of

vaccines available and/or can order them (for example if you choose to do

MMR, space that into 3 separate vaccines). I am of the understanding that

many of the exported vaccines are still not thimerosal free (not that

thimerosal is the only issue with such vaccines as you know, but it is a key

one after all).

With regard to your general question I have a number of thoughts:

* Whatever the 'final' cause of your son's autism there were likely

contributing causes/factors and among these is probably a genetic

predisposition, perhaps an impaired ability to detoxify so of course your

daughter is in a higher risk category than someone without ASD in the

family. On other lists I encounter families with 1 NT kid and one ASD kid

but maybe have run some tests on the NT kid only to find that s/he suffers

from some of the predispositions and nutritional deficiencies as the ASD kid

- but to a much milder degree. I think you are very smart to think about it

now and think about prevention.

* Apart from metals in the vaccines, are you sure you have tackled

other possible sources of heavy metal exposure for your family (oil

industry?) Some of us are at higher risk just by virtue of the industries

we live near, the prevailing winds (for example Midwestern plants

contaminate the air in East Coast US cities; coal fired plants release

mercury, etc etc) etc etc. If you have exposures (even soil) you want to be

extra careful and make sure you have a lot of antioxidant support for the

whole family

* When it comes to heavy metal toxicity that your son has - it is

likely it also came from you in utero as well. Many moms have this issue as

a contributing factor and the metals cross the placenta and add a risk

factor of their own. If you have any metal fillings in your mouth this is a

definite contributor.

* If your daughter is spitting up after her breast milk, she is

demonstrating an intolerance to something you are eating and/or a yeast

issue. To my mind, she is showing early signs of " leaky gut " and you can

treat that and some of the rest of the things you are worried about should

follow.

* I don't know of any " test " you can do, but you can look for other

things. At 9 months what else is the baby doing? Does she have good eye

contact? Does she smile? Is she easily soothed? Is she doing imitative

babbling? She should be pointing clapping and waving by 12 months if not

before (or at least these are the indicators here - I have no idea whether

these are culturally specific but I 'suspect' not).

* Whatever you decide to do about vaccines, one thing I DO feel

comfortable suggesting is that you hold off until you straighten out her

tummy. SO much of the iummune system is in the tummy and, though docs

always say they wont give vaccines to immune compromised kids, they don't

ever seem to count reflux/stomach upset. If you are giving vaccines at all

you need to make sure she is very strong when she gets them.

This is what I would do:

* I would never feed cow milk to a baby under the age of 2 - and I

wouldn't do it AT ALL for a child in a family where there is an ASD child.

I MIGHT try goat milk, if there were a safe unpastueurized source, but

probably not. There are other ways to get the calcium

* Your message implied that you may want to stop breast feeding, but

many have found that - even if the mom is somewhat toxic and the baby is not

tolerating things in the breast milk of the mom - it is still of great

benefit for the baby's immune system for the mom to continue. I am sure you

saw the thread this week where moms claimed their kids regressed after

weaning. I would make sure you have her tummy straightened out before you

decide to stop nursing if this is at all possible.

* I am also a nursing mother and I take many probiotics as well as the

Houston enzymes in order to nurse my (now almost 12 month old) son who is so

far NT and has a great tummy. In addition I do not feed him gluten or

casein. I will try him on it eventually - but not quite yet. If taking the

enzymes yourself is not a possibility I would seriously consider eating a

GFCF diet for as long as you continue nursing.

* You say you gave the probiotic for the after effects of the

antibiotics and that's terrific, but since she is spitting up regularly you

may want to consider giving the probiotic on a regular basis. I do - not

because I think my sons stomach cant stay populated with the good stuff but

because he has to endure whatever he gets from MY immune system when I

nurse.

I hope this is helpful. Please feel free to ask me any other questions

Josie

Daughter - just turned 4 and on all DAN type supplements and now NT)

Son - about to turn 1 this week and GFCF and NT so far)

need help

Hi all,

maybe am immaginig things.I have a 4yr old son who is autistic although he

is doing well.

Now i have a baby who is 9months old and sometimes i do get frightened

about her.she looked exactly like my son when she was born.because of my

son,i had to space her immunization schedule more than required.i feel she

is small for her age,weighs 8kg although she is a fussy eater and throws up

quite a lot after feeds.she does not tolerate mashed food so i had to be

blending her food into a puree.She does not like baby milk so still on

breast milk.

She is about to walk but sometimes when she stands up,i feel that her toes

are curled inwards and i try to strenghten them.

She had a high fever last week with raised white blood cell count and her

doctor prescribed an antibiotic.I and my husband had to give her probiotic

to be on the safe side

We live in Nigeria and autism biomedics is not common and most doctors

here do not understand them nor the protocols. what should i do? should i

give candex which my son is on? Is there a particular test i can do to

detect things earlier ? Should i wait or am I imaging them

Please do hope for speedy responce.

rgds Doris

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I would begin taking enzymes and probiotics myself, and then see if nursing her,

she holds the breastmilk down better.

need help

Hi all,

maybe am immaginig things.I have a 4yr old son who is autistic although he

is doing well.

Now i have a baby who is 9months old and sometimes i do get frightened

about her.she looked exactly like my son when she was born.because of my son,i

had to space her immunization schedule more than required.i feel she is small

for her age,weighs 8kg although she is a fussy eater and throws up quite a lot

after feeds.she does not tolerate mashed food so i had to be blending her food

into a puree.She does not like baby milk so still on breast milk.

She is about to walk but sometimes when she stands up,i feel that her toes

are curled inwards and i try to strenghten them.

She had a high fever last week with raised white blood cell count and her

doctor prescribed an antibiotic.I and my husband had to give her probiotic to be

on the safe side

We live in Nigeria and autism biomedics is not common and most doctors here

do not understand them nor the protocols. what should i do? should i give candex

which my son is on? Is there a particular test i can do to detect things earlier

? Should i wait or am I imaging them

Please do hope for speedy responce.

rgds Doris

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Thanks all for your wonderful reply.It has been most helpful

rgds doris

ammattson <ammattson@...> wrote:

I would begin taking enzymes and probiotics myself, and then see if nursing

her, she holds the breastmilk down better.

need help

Hi all,

maybe am immaginig things.I have a 4yr old son who is autistic although he

is doing well.

Now i have a baby who is 9months old and sometimes i do get frightened

about her.she looked exactly like my son when she was born.because of my son,i

had to space her immunization schedule more than required.i feel she is small

for her age,weighs 8kg although she is a fussy eater and throws up quite a lot

after feeds.she does not tolerate mashed food so i had to be blending her food

into a puree.She does not like baby milk so still on breast milk.

She is about to walk but sometimes when she stands up,i feel that her toes

are curled inwards and i try to strenghten them.

She had a high fever last week with raised white blood cell count and her

doctor prescribed an antibiotic.I and my husband had to give her probiotic to be

on the safe side

We live in Nigeria and autism biomedics is not common and most doctors here

do not understand them nor the protocols. what should i do? should i give candex

which my son is on? Is there a particular test i can do to detect things earlier

? Should i wait or am I imaging them

Please do hope for speedy responce.

rgds Doris

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Also, Doris, if it is helpful or reassuring, your daughter is much less likely

to develop autism

from vaccines than your son because estrogen is protective against mercury

neurotoxicity

and testosterone is quite the opposite. So she has a good chance. I wouldn't

rush putting

her on any other form of milk.

Peace,

Kathy E.

> I would begin taking enzymes and probiotics myself, and then see if nursing

her, she

holds the breastmilk down better.

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>

> Hi ,

>

> My 3 year old ASD had a recent stool test. Our little guy is doing

> great in terms of Beneficial Flora (all 4+) and only one imbalance

> but there is one dysbiotic flora which showed up recently

> (klebsiella oxytoca - 4+). He was not a yeasty kid but he did come

> up with some yeast now(Candida Krusei -2+).

>

> Question :

> I need advise on what natural agent to use. Based on the results it

> looks like Caprylic Acid is my best bet since both of the above are

> sensitive to it. I read somewhere that its not great if the

> capsule is broken . My son doesnt know how to swallow capsules.. Is

I haven't heard this is a problem. I have seen caprylic acid

in tablet form - doesn't appear to be coated in any way, so I'd be

surprised if you could not crush the tablets.

The other thought I have is that coconut oil contains caprylic

acid. You could use coconut oil in cooking and/or melt and mix

with food. I suppose it takes a lot of coconut oil to get a

comparable dose, but it might help.

> this okay? If so , what is the recommended dose ? Does this cause

> bad die off's . I am thinking if i go this way i will do no-phenol

> followed by caprylic acid on as empty stomach as i can manage :-) .

> Is this okay ?

In my experience, die-off effects are not so much related to what

agent you use, but how much yeast/bacteria you are killing. If

you're killing a lot of yeast, then you get die-off.

> My next option is GSE with no-phenol. I have already used this on

> him once for yeast and he did great with it ..no die-offs .. Will

> GSE help get rid of the above bacteria. From what i read on the web

> on some research article GSE is not that good for Gram-negative

> bacteria which Klebsiella oxytoca is . If this will work, i would

> like to go with what i know did not cause issues for him.

Based on your information, it sounds like GSE is not the best bet.

--

> Sorry about the long mail. I appreciate your feedback.

>

> Regards,

> Kavitha

>

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Hi Kavitha and ...

> >Based on the results it

> > looks like Caprylic Acid is my best bet since both of the above

are

> > sensitive to it. I read somewhere that its not great if the

> > capsule is broken . My son doesnt know how to swallow capsules..

Is

>

>

> I haven't heard this is a problem. I have seen caprylic acid

> in tablet form - doesn't appear to be coated in any way, so I'd be

> surprised if you could not crush the tablets.

>

> The other thought I have is that coconut oil contains caprylic

> acid. You could use coconut oil in cooking and/or melt and mix

> with food. I suppose it takes a lot of coconut oil to get a

> comparable dose, but it might help.

I think the problem is that normally caprylic acid tastes quite

awful. There is a Canadian product, Caproil by Inno-vite, that has

caprylic acid in an olive oil base. It doesn't taste too bad.

Virgin coconut oil is a great idea for a lot of reasons, and for me

at least it is very powerful. When I tried to use more than about a

half a teaspoon at a time, I got some wicked symptoms that I *think

were die-off. If you choose to use coconut oil, try to get the good

quality virgin kind and start slowly. Tropical Traditions is

supposed to be a good brand, and of course there are others too.

>

>

> > My next option is GSE with no-phenol. I have already used this on

> > him once for yeast and he did great with it ..no die-offs .. Will

> > GSE help get rid of the above bacteria. From what i read on the

web

> > on some research article GSE is not that good for Gram-negative

> > bacteria which Klebsiella oxytoca is . If this will work, i would

> > like to go with what i know did not cause issues for him.

>

>

> Based on your information, it sounds like GSE is not the best bet.

I think that GSE can make bacteria problems worse. It clears out

Candida, but too much will give bad bacteria free rein.

take care

René

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Could be too much B, but it could also be the soy. My son gets itchy and cranky

with too much B vitamins, esp....6

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> MY son is 5 years old,we started gfcf diet on december 15th ,i'm

giving him alittle bit of soy,yesterday he was itching like crazy and

was very grumpy.i'm giving him b12 shots,b6 and dmg.I need any help or

advice regarding the itching and the change of behaviour.

For my son, itching meant something he did not tolerate, or viral " die

off " . Did you do anything different yesterday?

Dana

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>

> MY son is 5 years old,we started gfcf diet on december 15th ,i'm

giving him alittle bit of soy,yesterday he was itching like crazy and

was very grumpy.i'm giving him b12 shots,b6 and dmg.I need any help or

advice regarding the itching and the change of behaviour.

B12 and especially B6 made my son VERY grumpy. You could try reducing

the dosage or take them away and see if he improves.

Nell

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