Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hi Bill, I think some here do use antibiotics - but not the manufactured drugs. They include special dietary items or supplements. Others may chip in with what they do. Regards, Cris > > has anybody tried combining LDN with antibiotics? > > there are some theories that small bacteria like mycoplasmas might be > involved in autoimmune diseases. > > for rhuematoid arthritis, they often use every other day doses of > antibiotics to fight them because they are very slow growing and the > days off lets the immune system fight back. > > i wonder if combing LDN and every other day abx would be beneficial. > > any thoughts or experiences? > > thanks > bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Personally, I'm ANTI-biotics. I don't take any orthodox medicine unless I have to. They say some antibiotics TRIGGER exacerbations. Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. So I say use heavy drugs sparingly. [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN+antibiotics/mycoplasma Hi Bill,I think some here do use antibiotics - but not the manufactured drugs. They include special dietary items or supplements. Others may chip in with what they do.Regards,Cris>> has anybody tried combining LDN with antibiotics?> > there are some theories that small bacteria like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Either Cipro or Z-pack is contraindicated for folks with CNS problems. I had each of those antibiotics left over from a trip. Took one of them, probably the cipro, thinking my MS problems might be attributed to some sort of infection. Jeeze-o-pete I hurt after taking the stuff for a couple of days. Being silly I neglected to read my PDR :-( I heard an interview with the head of Bayer. He commented that these medicines are not candy and need to be used with respect. Many of us wouldn't be alive without these meds. I do think lots of folks don't appreciate how potent these drugs are. > > Personally, I'm ANTI-biotics. I don't take any orthodox medicine unless I have to. > > They say some antibiotics TRIGGER exacerbations. Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. > > Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC > > However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. > > So I say use heavy drugs sparingly. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 In a message dated 3/19/07 5:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, larrygc@... writes: Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. I believe that Zithromax triggered my tinnitus. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC What kind of information do you have on this? I am looking for an antibiotic that I can take when it is absolutely necessary that won't exaccerbate my tinnitus. However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. How do you know that the LDN helped the Levaquin? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 larry - i just love reading about your miraculous healing while on the antiobiotic PLUS LDN!! this is the kind of testimony we all need to read/hear about, that have diseases of any kind, and want to trust in LDN to help with our conditions!! thanx, marshirisSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN+antibiotics/mycoplasma In a message dated 3/19/07 5:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, larrygc@... writes: Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. I believe that Zithromax triggered my tinnitus. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC What kind of information do you have on this? I am looking for an antibiotic that I can take when it is absolutely necessary that won't exaccerbate my tinnitus. Just the Buzz from other's opinions and comments. However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. How do you know that the LDN helped the Levaquin?It was either that way, or the Levaquin helped the LDN, but since LDN only orchestrates, then it was that orchestration that helped the Levaquin. It's like the LDN was fighting the staph for 6 weeks before it lost the battle, and then the Just 2 Doses of Levaquin added the materials needed to cause the remarkable reverse and retreat. The level staph I had should have required IV antibiotics and a hospital stay, so says my podiatrist and his 48 hour pre-approved referral to the local place "where the food isn't any good", as he put it. When he told me what he did and I said I had MS, he said IMPOSSIBLE, no way could I have MS, not with my "immune system operating at peak efficiency, [he] never saw anything like this in 23 years" and then he showed me the referral and told me what should have happened next. He was amazed. Still is, every time I've seen him he's reiterated and reaffirmed that the LDN was the major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 I think it's important to empasize that it is yeast 'overgrowth' that needs to be gotten under control. Antibiotic use can cause this. A little Candida (yeast) is normal. All of the supplements you mention are good for this. Now the tast of the tea is YUCKY! Marcie Kathy Lintzenich <mykittypaws@...> wrote: It is important to drink Pau D Arco tea, Take probiotics and olive leaf extract to balance the intestinal flora and get rid of the yeast. best, kathy Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN+antibiotics/mycoplasma In a message dated 3/19/07 5:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, larrygclarrygc writes: Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. I believe that Zithromax triggered my tinnitus. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC What kind of information do you have on this? I am looking for an antibiotic that I can take when it is absolutely necessary that won't exaccerbate my tinnitus. Just the Buzz from other's opinions and comments. However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. How do you know that the LDN helped the Levaquin?It was either that way, or the Levaquin helped the LDN, but since LDN only orchestrates, then it was that orchestration that helped the Levaquin. It's like the LDN was fighting the staph for 6 weeks before it lost the battle, and then the Just 2 Doses of Levaquin added the materials needed to cause the remarkable reverse and retreat. The level staph I had should have required IV antibiotics and a hospital stay, so says my podiatrist and his 48 hour pre-approved referral to the local place "where the food isn't any good", as he put it. When he told me what he did and I said I had MS, he said IMPOSSIBLE, no way could I have MS, not with my "immune system operating at peak efficiency, [he] never saw anything like this in 23 years" and then he showed me the referral and told me what should have happened next. He was amazed. Still is, every time I've seen him he's reiterated and reaffirmed that the LDN was the major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 I drink Sympacho tea, from the company "Wisdom of the Ancients." It's main ingredient is Pau d'Arco, and it also contains yerbamate (which contains caffeine), licorice pepper, and stevia (a natural sweetener). I don't know if any of these other ingredients are contra-indicated but it's very tasty. As in, I look forward to drinking it.It's available in most health stores, I believe.CarlThe taste of that tea is Yucky but if you sip it and thin of how good it is for the ms, I can deal with it. Also, other teas can be mixed like raspberry or mango which will soften the strong taste of the other. Best, Kathy Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN+antibiotics/mycoplasmaIn a message dated 3/19/07 5:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,larrygclarrygc writes:Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows.I believe that Zithromax triggered my tinnitus. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRCWhat kind of information do you have on this? I am looking for an antibiotic that I can take when it is absolutely necessary that won't exaccerbate my tinnitus.Just the Buzz from other's opinions and comments.However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours.How do you know that the LDN helped the Levaquin?It was either that way, or the Levaquin helped the LDN, but since LDN only orchestrates, then it was that orchestration that helped the Levaquin. It's like the LDN was fighting the staph for 6 weeks before it lost the battle, and then the Just 2 Doses of  Levaquin added the materials needed to cause the remarkable reverse and retreat. The level staph I had should have required IV antibiotics and a hospital stay, so says my podiatrist and his 48 hour pre-approved referral to the local place "where the food isn't any good", as he put it. When he told me what he did and I said I had MS, he said IMPOSSIBLE, no way could I have MS, not with my "immune system operating at peak efficiency, [he] never saw anything like this in 23 years" and then he showed me the referral and told me what should have happened next. He was amazed. Still is, every time I've seen him he's reiterated and reaffirmed that the LDN was the major factor.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 It is important to drink Pau D Arco tea, Take probiotics and olive leaf extract to balance the intestinal flora and get rid of the yeast. best, kathy Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN+antibiotics/mycoplasma In a message dated 3/19/07 5:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, larrygclarrygc writes: Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. I believe that Zithromax triggered my tinnitus. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC What kind of information do you have on this? I am looking for an antibiotic that I can take when it is absolutely necessary that won't exaccerbate my tinnitus. Just the Buzz from other's opinions and comments. However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. How do you know that the LDN helped the Levaquin?It was either that way, or the Levaquin helped the LDN, but since LDN only orchestrates, then it was that orchestration that helped the Levaquin. It's like the LDN was fighting the staph for 6 weeks before it lost the battle, and then the Just 2 Doses of Levaquin added the materials needed to cause the remarkable reverse and retreat. The level staph I had should have required IV antibiotics and a hospital stay, so says my podiatrist and his 48 hour pre-approved referral to the local place "where the food isn't any good", as he put it. When he told me what he did and I said I had MS, he said IMPOSSIBLE, no way could I have MS, not with my "immune system operating at peak efficiency, [he] never saw anything like this in 23 years" and then he showed me the referral and told me what should have happened next. He was amazed. Still is, every time I've seen him he's reiterated and reaffirmed that the LDN was the major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 This is the third case this week I have heard of LDN helping anitibiotics do their job. Can we have some more discussion on this topic! Anybody heard anything, anybody know anything. SkipSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 The taste of that tea is Yucky but if you sip it and thin of how good it is for the ms, I can deal with it. Also, other teas can be mixed like raspberry or mango which will soften the strong taste of the other. Best, Kathy Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN+antibiotics/mycoplasma In a message dated 3/19/07 5:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, larrygclarrygc writes: Strangely enough, before LDN, I had an exacerbation following every time I was on Zithromax that I can remember... but maybe it was the Reason I was on zithromax that triggered the flare... causal.. who knows. I believe that Zithromax triggered my tinnitus. Some say cipro is the worst, IIRC What kind of information do you have on this? I am looking for an antibiotic that I can take when it is absolutely necessary that won't exaccerbate my tinnitus. Just the Buzz from other's opinions and comments. However, in 10/04 with my staph infection, it was the LDN that helped the Levaquin work miracles within 48 hours. How do you know that the LDN helped the Levaquin?It was either that way, or the Levaquin helped the LDN, but since LDN only orchestrates, then it was that orchestration that helped the Levaquin. It's like the LDN was fighting the staph for 6 weeks before it lost the battle, and then the Just 2 Doses of Levaquin added the materials needed to cause the remarkable reverse and retreat. The level staph I had should have required IV antibiotics and a hospital stay, so says my podiatrist and his 48 hour pre-approved referral to the local place "where the food isn't any good", as he put it. When he told me what he did and I said I had MS, he said IMPOSSIBLE, no way could I have MS, not with my "immune system operating at peak efficiency, [he] never saw anything like this in 23 years" and then he showed me the referral and told me what should have happened next. He was amazed. Still is, every time I've seen him he's reiterated and reaffirmed that the LDN was the major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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