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Has anyone here with a mild to moderate asymmetry got resolved?

The PT at CT, Paramus told me that banding will definitely

help, even if it's a mild asymmetry, and that we'll definitely be able

to see the result in a few weeks. I am just wondering if there is a

real life example. Or if anyone has heard any successful stories.

We have Bluecross Blueshield HMO Plan. According to Nouveau

Prosthetics our insurance pre-approved of the device (STARband) and

the treatment. They should cover it 100%. But there is no guarantee.

It doesn't mean that they won't decline. The staff at Nouveau

Prosthetics said that there were cases that the insurance company ask

to see the measurement and then declined the claim. They told me that

guideline for Aetna is that the difference between the Oblique

Diagonal 1 and Oblique Diagonal 2 has to be more than 6mm. They don't

know about Bluecross Blueshield. They could pay for it with no fuss.

But if they decline, then we'll be responsible for the payment ($3600

x 2).

Since it seems that no one here has had any bad experience with CT and

DOC band so far, if we do decide to get my babies banded, we probably

should go with DOC band. CT told us that there will be a twin

discount ($2500 x 2) if we pay everything up front in full.

Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Has anyone gone to Nouveau Prosthetics in Hazlet, NJ

> > > recently?

> > > > > > > > > I'm a mother of 2 10 months old twin boys. We live

> in

> > > central

> > > > > > NJ.

> > > > > > > > > When the boys were 2 months old, people noticed that

> > > their

> > > > > > heads were

> > > > > > > > > very flat in the back. I asked my pediatrician

> about

> > > it. He

> > > > > > > > > recommended more tummy time. We tried to put them

> on

> > > their

> > > > > > tummy all

> > > > > > > > > the time. But we didn't see much improvement.

> After a

> > > while,

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > their face became more and more asymmetric. One

> baby

> > > has the

> > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > side of his face bulging out, and the other one has

> the

> > > left

> > > > > > side of

> > > > > > > > > the face bulging out. We went to another

> pediatrician.

> > > She

> > > > > > thinks

> > > > > > > > > that their heads are not that bad. She prescribed

> them

> > > to

> > > > > > more tummy

> > > > > > > > > time, too. But I was already giving them tummy time

> > > almost

> > > > > > 24/7! By

> > > > > > > > > the time they are 9 months old I decided that tummy

> time

> > > is

> > > > > > not going

> > > > > > > > > to help reshaping their heads. We went to Cranial

> Tech.

> > > in

> > > > > > Paramus,

> > > > > > > > > NJ for a free consultation. The people were nice

> > > there. But

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > turned out that they are not in our insurance

> network.

> > > The

> > > > > > only one

> > > > > > > > > that's in our insurance network is this Nouveau

> > > Prosthetics in

> > > > > > Hazlet,

> > > > > > > > > NJ which I've never heard of. If we go to Nouveau

> > > > > > Prosthetics, our

> > > > > > > > > insurance would cover the expense 100%. If we go to

> > > Cranial

> > > > > > Tech.,

> > > > > > > > > then we'd have to pay for everything ourselves.

> Since I

> > > > > > couldn't find

> > > > > > > > > any good review about this place, I am not sure

> whether

> > > I

> > > > > > should go

> > > > > > > > > there. I don't want their heads to become worse

> than

> > > they are

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me advice? Thank you so much!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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, I would definately go to CT in NJ but I personally did not find to be as experienced as Purvi Patel and chose to only see Purvi. Purvi is the head ortho and has been doing banding for 2 years. When we went in October although nice was new and only banding around 6 months. ( was having to go to Purvi for advice and to learn. I feel everyone needs to learn somewhere but personally not on my kids head. For plagio and brach the orthos experience makes all the difference. I would definately make sure to go to Cranial.

For that much money and the investment of the babies head shapes go to the expert Purvi. Several other mothers saw her and were very pleased. You just call and ask to be scheduled with Purvi for the casting and appointments. She was amazingly calm for my son during the casting and so professional and ready to answer all my questions. Even on the phone when we first got the band and I had questions she took the calls and advised me with professionalism. (You do not have to see the person that does the initial consult. Good luck and let us know how it works out.

From: juliapianony <juliapianony@...>Subject: Re: Anyone had any bad experience with Cranial Tech and DOC band?Plagiocephaly Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 6:31 PM

Has anyone here with a mild to moderate asymmetry got resolved?The PT at CT, Paramus told me that banding will definitelyhelp, even if it's a mild asymmetry, and that we'll definitely be ableto see the result in a few weeks. I am just wondering if there is areal life example. Or if anyone has heard any successful stories.We have Bluecross Blueshield HMO Plan. According to NouveauProsthetics our insurance pre-approved of the device (STARband) andthe treatment. They should cover it 100%. But there is no guarantee.It doesn't mean that they won't decline. The staff at NouveauProsthetics said that there were cases that the insurance company askto see the measurement and then declined the claim. They told me thatguideline for Aetna is that the difference between the ObliqueDiagonal 1 and Oblique Diagonal 2 has to be more than 6mm. They don'tknow about Bluecross Blueshield. They could pay for it

with no fuss.But if they decline, then we'll be responsible for the payment ($3600x 2). Since it seems that no one here has had any bad experience with CT andDOC band so far, if we do decide to get my babies banded, we probablyshould go with DOC band. CT told us that there will be a twindiscount ($2500 x 2) if we pay everything up front in full. Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Has anyone gone to Nouveau Prosthetics in Hazlet, NJ > > > recently?> > > > > > > > > I'm a mother of 2 10 months old twin boys. We live > in > > > central > > > > > > NJ. > > > > > > > > > When the boys were 2 months

old, people noticed that > > > their > > > > > > heads were> > > > > > > > > very flat in the back. I asked my pediatrician > about > > > it. He> > > > > > > > > recommended more tummy time. We tried to put them > on > > > their > > > > > > tummy all> > > > > > > > > the time. But we didn't see much improvement. > After a > > > while, > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > their face became more and more asymmetric. One > baby > > > has the > > > > > > right> > > > > > > > > side of his face bulging out, and the other one has > the > > > left > > > > > > side of> > > >

> > > > > the face bulging out. We went to another > pediatrician. > > > She > > > > > > thinks> > > > > > > > > that their heads are not that bad. She prescribed > them > > > to > > > > > > more tummy> > > > > > > > > time, too. But I was already giving them tummy time > > > almost > > > > > > 24/7! By> > > > > > > > > the time they are 9 months old I decided that tummy > time > > > is > > > > > > not going> > > > > > > > > to help reshaping their heads. We went to Cranial > Tech. > > > in > > > > > > Paramus,> > > > > > > > > NJ for a free consultation. The people were nice >

> > there. But > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > turned out that they are not in our insurance > network. > > > The > > > > > > only one> > > > > > > > > that's in our insurance network is this Nouveau > > > Prosthetics in > > > > > > Hazlet,> > > > > > > > > NJ which I've never heard of. If we go to Nouveau > > > > > > Prosthetics, our> > > > > > > > > insurance would cover the expense 100%. If we go to > > > Cranial > > > > > > Tech.,> > > > > > > > > then we'd have to pay for everything ourselves. > Since I > > > > > > couldn't find> > > > > > > > > any good review about this place,

I am not sure > whether > > > I > > > > > > should go> > > > > > > > > there. I don't want their heads to become worse > than > > > they are > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me advice? Thank you so much!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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we had a very good experience, and ours was a less common headshape. we went to the CT in chicago (we live in Cincinnati - but in 2000 there were not any CTs in Ohio)my son had no "slope" -- his head jutted straight back (long and narrow/scaphocephalic head shape). A DOCband worn for 4 months corrected this, and gave him more width to his narrow face.a brief bio and a couple of pix are here http://www.cappskids.org/CAPPSPlagioKidQuinn.htmmom to Quinn, born 11/99, DOCband grad 10/00>------- Original Message ------->From : juliapianony[mailto:juliapianony@...]>Sent : 6/3/2008 2:31:23 PM>To : Plagiocephaly >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: Anyone had any bad experience with Cranial Tech and DOC ba

nd?>>Has anyone here with a mild to moderate asymmetry got resolved?The PT at CT, Paramus told me that banding will definitelyhelp, even if it's a mild asymmetry, and that we'll definitely be ableto see the result in a few weeks. I am just wondering if there is areal life example. Or if anyone has heard any successful stories.We have Bluecross Blueshield HMO Plan. According to NouveauProsthetics our insurance pre-approved of the device (STARband) andthe treatment. They should cover it 100%. But there is no guarantee.It doesn't mean that they won't decline. The staff at NouveauProsthetics said that there were cases that the insurance company askto see the measurement and then declined the claim. They told me thatguideline for Aetna is that the difference between the ObliqueDiagonal 1 and Oblique Diagonal 2 has to be more than 6mm. They don'tknow about Bluecross Blueshield. They could pay for it with

no fuss.But if they decline, then we'll be responsible for the payment ($3600x 2). Since it seems that no one here has had any bad experience with CT andDOC band so far, if we do decide to get my babies banded, we probablyshould go with DOC band. CT told us that there will be a twindiscount ($2500 x 2) if we pay everything up front in full. Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Has anyone gone to Nouveau Prosthetics in Hazlet, NJ > > > recently?> > > > > > > > > I'm a mother of 2 10 months old twin boys. We live > in > > > central > > > > > > NJ. > > > > > > > > > When the boys were 2 months old, people noticed that > > > their > > > > > > heads were> > > > > > > > > ver

y flat in the back. I asked my pediatrician > about > > > it. He> > > > > > > > > recommended more tummy time. We tried to put them > on > > > their > > > > > > tummy all> > > > > > > > > the time. But we didn't see much improvement. > After a > > > while, > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > their face became more and more asymmetric. One > baby > > > has the > > > > > > right> > > > > > > > > side of his face bulging out, and the other one has > the > > > left > > > > > > side of> > > > > > > > > the face bulging out. We went to another > pediatrician. > > > She > > > > > > thinks> > >

> > > > > > that their heads are not that bad. She prescribed > them > > > to > > > > > > more tummy> > > > > > > > > time, too. But I was already giving them tummy time > > > almost > > > > > > 24/7! By> > > > > > > > > the time they are 9 months old I decided that tummy > time > > > is > > > > > > not going> > > > > > > > > to help reshaping their heads. We went to Cranial > Tech. > > > in > > > > > > Paramus,> > > > > > > > > NJ for a free consultation. The people were nice > > > there. But > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > turned out that they are not in our insurance > network. > > > The BR>> > > > > > only one> > > > > > > > > that's in our insurance network is this Nouveau > > > Prosthetics in > > > > > > Hazlet,> > > > > > > > > NJ which I've never heard of. If we go to Nouveau > > > > > > Prosthetics, our> > > > > > > > > insurance would cover the expense 100%. If we go to > > > Cranial > > > > > > Tech.,> > > > > > > > > then we'd have to pay for everything ourselves. > Since I > > > > > > couldn't find> > > > > > > > > any good review about this place, I am not sure > whether > > > I > > > > > > should go> > > > > > > > > there. I don't want their heads to become worse > than > > > they are > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me advice? Thank you so much!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>------------------------------------For more plagio info

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If you do decide to band with DOC, I'll chime in and say, I have been

having a wonderful experience with Paramus CT. Needless to say, The

Christmas Tree Shop, Trader Joes and a bunch more great shopping!

Good luck with everything!

5 1/2 months old - almost 3 weeks in DOC Band!

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Honestly, it all depends on the ortho. Both bands give the same results. Good luck!

Re: Anyone had any bad experience with Cranial Tech and DOC band?

Has anyone here with a mild to moderate asymmetry got resolved?The PT at CT, Paramus told me that banding will definitelyhelp, even if it's a mild asymmetry, and that we'll definitely be ableto see the result in a few weeks. I am just wondering if there is areal life example. Or if anyone has heard any successful stories.We have Bluecross Blueshield HMO Plan. According to NouveauProsthetics our insurance pre-approved of the device (STARband) andthe treatment. They should cover it 100%. But there is no guarantee.It doesn't mean that they won't decline. The staff at NouveauProsthetics said that there were cases that the insurance company askto see the measurement and then declined the claim. They told me thatguideline for Aetna is that the difference between the ObliqueDiagonal 1 and Oblique Diagonal 2 has to be more than 6mm. They don'tknow about Bluecross Blueshield. They could pay for it

with no fuss.But if they decline, then we'll be responsible for the payment ($3600x 2). Since it seems that no one here has had any bad experience with CT andDOC band so far, if we do decide to get my babies banded, we probablyshould go with DOC band. CT told us that there will be a twindiscount ($2500 x 2) if we pay everything up front in full. Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Has anyone gone to Nouveau Prosthetics in Hazlet, NJ > > > recently?> > > > > > > > > I'm a mother of 2 10 months old twin boys. We live > in > > > central > > > > > > NJ. > > > > > > > > > When the boys were 2 months old, people noticed that > > > their > > > > > > heads were> > > > > > > > > very flat in the back. I asked my pediatrician > about > > > it. He> > > > > > > > > recommended more tummy time. We tried to put them > on > > > their > > > > > > tummy all> > > > > > > > > the time. But we didn't see

much improvement. > After a > > > while, > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > their face became more and more asymmetric. One > baby > > > has the > > > > > > right> > > > > > > > > side of his face bulging out, and the other one has > the > > > left > > > > > > side of> > > > > > > > > the face bulging out. We went to another > pediatrician. > > > She > > > > > > thinks> > > > > > > > > that their heads are not that bad. She prescribed > them > > > to > > > > > > more tummy> > > > > > > > > time, too. But I was already giving them tummy time > > > almost > > > > >

> 24/7! By> > > > > > > > > the time they are 9 months old I decided that tummy > time > > > is > > > > > > not going> > > > > > > > > to help reshaping their heads. We went to Cranial > Tech. > > > in > > > > > > Paramus,> > > > > > > > > NJ for a free consultation. The people were nice > > > there. But > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > turned out that they are not in our insurance > network. > > > The > > > > > > only one> > > > > > > > > that's in our insurance network is this Nouveau > > > Prosthetics in > > > > > > Hazlet,> > > > > > > > > NJ which I've never heard of. If

we go to Nouveau > > > > > > Prosthetics, our> > > > > > > > > insurance would cover the expense 100%. If we go to > > > Cranial > > > > > > Tech.,> > > > > > > > > then we'd have to pay for everything ourselves. > Since I > > > > > > couldn't find> > > > > > > > > any good review about this place, I am not sure > whether > > > I > > > > > > should go> > > > > > > > > there. I don't want their heads to become worse > than > > > they are > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me advice? Thank you so much!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Have you contacted your insurance company directly to find out what is

covered?

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Re: Anyone had any bad experience with Cranial Tech and

DOC band?

Has anyone here with a mild to moderate asymmetry got resolved?

The PT at CT, Paramus told me that banding will definitely

help, even if it's a mild asymmetry, and that we'll definitely be able

to see the result in a few weeks. I am just wondering if there is a

real life example. Or if anyone has heard any successful stories.

We have Bluecross Blueshield HMO Plan. According to Nouveau

Prosthetics our insurance pre-approved of the device (STARband) and

the treatment. They should cover it 100%. But there is no guarantee.

It doesn't mean that they won't decline. The staff at Nouveau

Prosthetics said that there were cases that the insurance company ask

to see the measurement and then declined the claim. They told me that

guideline for Aetna is that the difference between the Oblique

Diagonal 1 and Oblique Diagonal 2 has to be more than 6mm. They don't

know about Bluecross Blueshield. They could pay for it with no fuss.

But if they decline, then we'll be responsible for the payment ($3600

x 2).

Since it seems that no one here has had any bad experience with CT and

DOC band so far, if we do decide to get my babies banded, we probably

should go with DOC band. CT told us that there will be a twin

discount ($2500 x 2) if we pay everything up front in full.

Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Has anyone gone to Nouveau Prosthetics in Hazlet, NJ

> > > recently?

> > > > > > > > > I'm a mother of 2 10 months old twin boys. We live

> in

> > > central

> > > > > > NJ.

> > > > > > > > > When the boys were 2 months old, people noticed that

> > > their

> > > > > > heads were

> > > > > > > > > very flat in the back. I asked my pediatrician

> about

> > > it. He

> > > > > > > > > recommended more tummy time. We tried to put them

> on

> > > their

> > > > > > tummy all

> > > > > > > > > the time. But we didn't see much improvement.

> After a

> > > while,

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > their face became more and more asymmetric. One

> baby

> > > has the

> > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > side of his face bulging out, and the other one has

> the

> > > left

> > > > > > side of

> > > > > > > > > the face bulging out. We went to another

> pediatrician.

> > > She

> > > > > > thinks

> > > > > > > > > that their heads are not that bad. She prescribed

> them

> > > to

> > > > > > more tummy

> > > > > > > > > time, too. But I was already giving them tummy time

> > > almost

> > > > > > 24/7! By

> > > > > > > > > the time they are 9 months old I decided that tummy

> time

> > > is

> > > > > > not going

> > > > > > > > > to help reshaping their heads. We went to Cranial

> Tech.

> > > in

> > > > > > Paramus,

> > > > > > > > > NJ for a free consultation. The people were nice

> > > there. But

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > turned out that they are not in our insurance

> network.

> > > The

> > > > > > only one

> > > > > > > > > that's in our insurance network is this Nouveau

> > > Prosthetics in

> > > > > > Hazlet,

> > > > > > > > > NJ which I've never heard of. If we go to Nouveau

> > > > > > Prosthetics, our

> > > > > > > > > insurance would cover the expense 100%. If we go to

> > > Cranial

> > > > > > Tech.,

> > > > > > > > > then we'd have to pay for everything ourselves.

> Since I

> > > > > > couldn't find

> > > > > > > > > any good review about this place, I am not sure

> whether

> > > I

> > > > > > should go

> > > > > > > > > there. I don't want their heads to become worse

> than

> > > they are

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me advice? Thank you so much!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Few days after we went to CT, their insurance expert called me

back and told me that our insurance company requires us to go to an in

network provider. If there is none within 60 miles of where we live,

then we can go to CT in Paramus for treatment. We found out that

Nouveau Prosthetics is in our network. We called them up. Nouveau

Prosthetics contacted our insurance company (BCBS) and told us that

the cost of STARband and treatment would be covered 100%. Nouveau

Prosthetics gave us a code. We called our insurance company to double

check with them. The representative reassured us that it'll be

covered 100%. However, during our first appointment with Nouveau

Prosthetics, they told us that even though our insurance pre-approved

the device and treatment, it doesn't necessarily guarantee payment.

For any reason our insurance company shall decline the payment or pay

only certain percentage of it, we would be responsible to pay the

co-pay or the full amount.

So my understanding is that if we go to Nouveau Prosthetics and get

the STARband, there is a big chance that our insurance would cover it;

if we go to CT, we'll have to pay first to start the treatment, and

most likely we would not be able to get any money back from our

insurance company.

Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Has anyone gone to Nouveau Prosthetics in Hazlet, NJ

> > > > recently?

> > > > > > > > > > I'm a mother of 2 10 months old twin boys. We live

> > in

> > > > central

> > > > > > > NJ.

> > > > > > > > > > When the boys were 2 months old, people noticed that

> > > > their

> > > > > > > heads were

> > > > > > > > > > very flat in the back. I asked my pediatrician

> > about

> > > > it. He

> > > > > > > > > > recommended more tummy time. We tried to put them

> > on

> > > > their

> > > > > > > tummy all

> > > > > > > > > > the time. But we didn't see much improvement.

> > After a

> > > > while,

> > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > their face became more and more asymmetric. One

> > baby

> > > > has the

> > > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > side of his face bulging out, and the other one has

> > the

> > > > left

> > > > > > > side of

> > > > > > > > > > the face bulging out. We went to another

> > pediatrician.

> > > > She

> > > > > > > thinks

> > > > > > > > > > that their heads are not that bad. She prescribed

> > them

> > > > to

> > > > > > > more tummy

> > > > > > > > > > time, too. But I was already giving them tummy time

> > > > almost

> > > > > > > 24/7! By

> > > > > > > > > > the time they are 9 months old I decided that tummy

> > time

> > > > is

> > > > > > > not going

> > > > > > > > > > to help reshaping their heads. We went to Cranial

> > Tech.

> > > > in

> > > > > > > Paramus,

> > > > > > > > > > NJ for a free consultation. The people were nice

> > > > there. But

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > turned out that they are not in our insurance

> > network.

> > > > The

> > > > > > > only one

> > > > > > > > > > that's in our insurance network is this Nouveau

> > > > Prosthetics in

> > > > > > > Hazlet,

> > > > > > > > > > NJ which I've never heard of. If we go to Nouveau

> > > > > > > Prosthetics, our

> > > > > > > > > > insurance would cover the expense 100%. If we go to

> > > > Cranial

> > > > > > > Tech.,

> > > > > > > > > > then we'd have to pay for everything ourselves.

> > Since I

> > > > > > > couldn't find

> > > > > > > > > > any good review about this place, I am not sure

> > whether

> > > > I

> > > > > > > should go

> > > > > > > > > > there. I don't want their heads to become worse

> > than

> > > > they are

> > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me advice? Thank you so much!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mother of 10 months old twin boys, central NJ

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