Re: Fw: Young age symptoms, adult DX

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The main system would be the definition you'd find if you looked up MS Fog in the dictionary. They sent me to a shrink when I said I kinda didn't really know who I was, I was just doing things I knew I knew, on Auto Pilot. They say stressful events can add to any triggers and I had the mother of all triggers, a partially impacted wisdom tooth. And during the preceding month, cascading like dominos, I got engaged, my sister had a miscarriage, my brother announced his divorce and my parents bought a retirement home upstate NY.

The tooth wasn't discovered for a few weeks while I was MS Fogging, but once it was, I went to a dentist, he cut it up a bit and got rid of the infection.... 13 weeks after the peak, a few days after the dentist, all symptoms remitted as if it never happened. I even went to jury duty right after going back to work.

[low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age symptoms, adult DX

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What was the attack like Larry when you were 21? What symptoms did you manifest? Best, Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN for Crohn's disease

Debra and Bren:

I am suspicious about the age you noticed symptoms...age 10. I say this because at the age of 42, I was diagnosed with Crohn's. I never had a symptom in my life. It was 13 days after I received an MMR vaccination (I was trying to take one class at the university and they required it since I had no childhood records). Kids have to get the booster MMR about that age. I found a study done in Scotland which showed the exact strain of measel from that shot in the biopsies of Crohn's patients. Needless to say, the CDC jumped all over that, but the center for reporting adverse reactions to vaccinations knows all about the connection.

Vicky

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that is so interesting to me. When I was 5 I remember intermittently feeling a numb sensation on the right side of my temples. then at 16 I had a strange eye problem but when my vision was checked, it was 20-20. Then my toes got mysteriously numb for a few seconds in college walking in the snow but not an ordinary cold numb. A couple years later, laying on the beach in Lauderdale, I headed back for my car and my legs felt like I had thigh high boots on for maybe under 5 minutes. I look back and go aahh!!! Whatever gave me my condition, I had it an a very early age. What was I exposed to? Lots of antibiotics, pneumonia, and a pretty bad blow to the head. There was also a horrible bout with two episodes of measles and three of mumps. One one side, then the other, then both. That is why I try to do alot of natural anti-viral things as I believe my condition may originate from a viral origin. Yours Larry, could it be Mercury?

[low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age symptoms, adult DX

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Mercury? What about Venus and Mars? They're alright tonight

Back in the 60s and 70s when doctors used to actually come to your home in the middle of the night, I do recall lots of alcohol rubdowns, high fevers, and SHOTS, sometimes antibiotics. What happens if you give young people Antibiotics when they don't have a bacterial infection? Back then they didn't do blood tests to find out if it's viral or bacterial, they just gave out the antibiotics.

I don't know what made me any different than anyone else except for one factor, I was born with SBO and that may have been my precursor. 1981 surely wasn't the start of it, just a reflection of what was going on leading up to it.

I remember back in the early 90s when my legs would react strangely to fast walking, one day someone named it, told me it was known as 'shin splints'? Ok, great, so it had a name. And I Used to be a sprinter, never had problems running or walking short distances. All of a sudden I started having these issues. Strange history, all seemingly unconnected... but looking back, it was ALL connection, all focal to MS, if not, then SBO.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age symptoms, adult DX

that is so interesting to me. When I was 5 I remember intermittently feeling a numb sensation on the right side of my temples. then at 16 I had a strange eye problem but when my vision was checked, it was 20-20. Then my toes got mysteriously numb for a few seconds in college walking in the snow but not an ordinary cold numb. A couple years later, laying on the beach in Lauderdale, I headed back for my car and my legs felt like I had thigh high boots on for maybe under 5 minutes. I look back and go aahh!!! Whatever gave me my condition, I had it an a very early age. What was I exposed to? Lots of antibiotics, pneumonia, and a pretty bad blow to the head. There was also a horrible bout with two episodes of measles and three of mumps. One one side, then the other, then both. That is why I try to do alot of natural anti-viral things as I believe my condition may originate from a viral origin. Yours Larry, could it be Mercury?

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This is so interesting because my daughter fell at age 12 and could not

walk for 3 weeks. We found out 3 years ago she has MS. I now

wonder if that fall could have been MS.

Edna

At 07:38 PM 12/21/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Oh, I had it bad in the 70s. We

THOUGHT they were just Allergic Reactions, mostly to Chocolate, but also

to Tuna (and that took years

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To all of you that may read this: It has been discovered that children as young as 2 can have MS. I discovered this out through the Boston Cure Project that is making a road map to the road to help others dealing with MS. Art Mellor is the head of this project and also has this same challenge dealing with himself. I myself use to get sprained ankles all the time.... my mother when I was born, also has strange symptoms during the lactation period and weaned me off. When my little one was born, I also had eye problems but had a doctor that knew how to help me and I never needed to wean my child off until she did so when she was ready to herself. It is through a wonderful doctor though which I'd discovered around 75% people of more, with MS have food intollerances, or other types, and have eventually turned into other health issues like croems, other allergies, and with eyes, runny noses and more, like rhumathic arthritis. Basically MS

people are susepitical to all sorts of things like Cancer, Candidas, and other things. My mother had rhumathic arthritis, I was fed artifical milk, and incidently may cause MS (I read about in a book I discovered in Italy, in Italian and it was actually published my a milk producer, if anyone is interensted, I could dig it up... I was so very angry about it and at first blamed my MS and mother for it, but later realized she could have had it years before and never knew either, but fact is, some things you can't fight alone without being crushed or fighting the issues in loud, noisy numbers.)Indicently, at the time, I also had my child's bloodwork done to also search for other answers. Could I pass this onto her? Can this be inherited? She had 2 times weird chicken pox episodes a traditional one claimed to be "shingles" and a CAM doctor claimed to never have seen in children so young - sincd she was blistering in her mouth, right to her stomach and was in a

great deal of pain - he put her on different types of natural & homeopathic medicines - she healed in record tims - 4 days and went back to school. I also put her on yogurts probiotic since she had a horrid smell from her mouth during the end of her illness. I would have put both of us on LDN if anyone has suggested, but now both us are healthy, without colds, allergies and to the doctor that "claimed" I was killing her with the diet for a year, I can now ufficially prove to her that "mom knows best" . . . We MS people here are doing a great job keeping tabs on our illnesses, but now we also need to turn to groups like The Boston Cure Project and get governments and doctors so help the patient and not only the pharmaphetical one of God of Money.... Incidentely another doctor told my child to get off of Chococate and other things, but he never really got deaper than this other doctor did with our getting a BloodPrint done. We-ve learned how

to "invent" meals and sweets in more ways that can be imangined. ALl the best to everyone now and always, and remember as Norman Cousins said - Humour is the best medicine - and he was to have died early from what he was diagnosed from having. And also to all of you, keep away from ASPARTAME and MSG foods as they are both Neurogically damaging. Edna <laujened@...> wrote: This is so interesting because my daughter fell at age 12 and could not walk for 3 weeks. We found out 3 years ago she has

MS. I now wonder if that fall could have been MS. Edna At 07:38 PM 12/21/2006 -0500, you wrote: Oh, I had it bad in the 70s. We THOUGHT they were just Allergic Reactions, mostly to Chocolate, but also to Tuna (and that took years __________________________________________________

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I really enjoyed your e-mail tonight. I also wanted to add that mother's breast milk has gamma-linoleic acid init. Those who are not breast fed tend to have a weakness in the cell's permeability and also the blood brain barrier. In essence, our immune systems are not as they should be. I was not breast fed. how many others of you were not? Someone was going to do a study on that or take a poll I should say on people with ms. Best, Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age symptoms, adult DX

To all of you that may read this: It has been discovered that children as young as 2 can have MS. I discovered this out through the Boston Cure Project that is making a road map to the road to help others dealing with MS. Art Mellor is the head of this project and also has this same challenge dealing with himself. I myself use to get sprained ankles all the time.... my mother when I was born, also has strange symptoms during the lactation period and weaned me off. When my little one was born, I also had eye problems but had a doctor that knew how to help me and I never needed to wean my child off until she did so when she was ready to herself. It is through a wonderful doctor though which I'd discovered around 75% people of more, with MS have food intollerances, or other types, and have eventually turned into other health issues like croems, other allergies, and with eyes, runny noses and more, like rhumathic arthritis. Basically MS people are susepitical to all sorts of things like Cancer, Candidas, and other things. My mother had rhumathic arthritis, I was fed artifical milk, and incidently may cause MS (I read about in a book I discovered in Italy, in Italian and it was actually published my a milk producer, if anyone is interensted, I could dig it up... I was so very angry about it and at first blamed my MS and mother for it, but later realized she could have had it years before and never knew either, but fact is, some things you can't fight alone without being crushed or fighting the issues in loud, noisy numbers.)Indicently, at the time, I also had my child's bloodwork done to also search for other answers. Could I pass this onto her? Can this be inherited? She had 2 times weird chicken pox episodes a traditional one claimed to be "shingles" and a CAM doctor claimed to never have seen in children so young - sincd she was blistering in her mouth, right to her stomach and was in a great deal of pain - he put her on different types of natural & homeopathic medicines - she healed in record tims - 4 days and went back to school. I also put her on yogurts probiotic since she had a horrid smell from her mouth during the end of her illness. I would have put both of us on LDN if anyone has suggested, but now both us are healthy, without colds, allergies and to the doctor that "claimed" I was killing her with the diet for a year, I can now ufficially prove to her that "mom knows best" . . . We MS people here are doing a great job keeping tabs on our illnesses, but now we also need to turn to groups like The Boston Cure Project and get governments and doctors so help the patient and not only the pharmaphetical one of God of Money.... Incidentely another doctor told my child to get off of Chococate and other things, but he never really got deaper than this other doctor did with our getting a BloodPrint done. We-ve learned how to "invent" meals and sweets in more ways that can be imangined. ALl the best to everyone now and always, and remember as Norman Cousins said - Humour is the best medicine - and he was to have died early from what he was diagnosed from having. And also to all of you, keep away from ASPARTAME and MSG foods as they are both Neurogically damaging. Edna <laujenedeasystreet> wrote:

This is so interesting because my daughter fell at age 12 and could not walk for 3 weeks. We found out 3 years ago she has MS. I now wonder if that fall could have been MS.EdnaAt 07:38 PM 12/21/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Oh, I had it bad in the 70s. We THOUGHT they were just Allergic Reactions, mostly to Chocolate, but also to Tuna (and that took years

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

I have been trying to send out this information but

strangly enough, I keep on getting that perhaps you

never recieve my messages. I am to point of cancelling

your information without getting any replies for mine.

What's up? I can't stay all the time on the computer

if nothing ever arrives. I'd rather demoralizing,

don't you agree?

we_discover2004@...

Note: forwarded message attached.

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[Guest guest]

Hey, this really hits home. My little girl of now 7

has pains in her legs, I'm going to try something for

a calcium deficiency.... I only did 2 rounds of

vaccines on her then I just disapeared from that

circuit, she's now got various sorts of food allergies

as well... I thank you all for talking about this

important issue. Vaccines really do more hell for

those like myself with MS and for my girl... I've

given her mother's milk until she self weaned... are

there no pro;s or con's in life?

--- LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

> Mercury? What about Venus and Mars? They're

> alright tonight

>

>

>

> Back in the 60s and 70s when doctors used to

> actually come to your home in the middle of the

> night, I do recall lots of alcohol rubdowns, high

> fevers, and SHOTS, sometimes antibiotics. What

> happens if you give young people Antibiotics when

> they don't have a bacterial infection? Back then

> they didn't do blood tests to find out if it's viral

> or bacterial, they just gave out the antibiotics.

>

> I don't know what made me any different than anyone

> else except for one factor, I was born with SBO and

> that may have been my precursor. 1981 surely wasn't

> the start of it, just a reflection of what was going

> on leading up to it.

>

> I remember back in the early 90s when my legs would

> react strangely to fast walking, one day someone

> named it, told me it was known as 'shin splints'?

> Ok, great, so it had a name. And I Used to be a

> sprinter, never had problems running or walking

> short distances. All of a sudden I started having

> these issues. Strange history, all seemingly

> unconnected... but looking back, it was ALL

> connection, all focal to MS, if not, then SBO.

> Re: [low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age

> symptoms, adult DX

>

>

> that is so interesting to me. When I was 5 I

> remember intermittently feeling a numb sensation on

> the right side of my temples. then at 16 I had a

> strange eye problem but when my vision was checked,

> it was 20-20. Then my toes got mysteriously numb for

> a few seconds in college walking in the snow but not

> an ordinary cold numb. A couple years later, laying

> on the beach in Lauderdale, I headed back for my car

> and my legs felt like I had thigh high boots on for

> maybe under 5 minutes. I look back and go aahh!!!

> Whatever gave me my condition, I had it an a very

> early age. What was I exposed to? Lots of

> antibiotics, pneumonia, and a pretty bad blow to the

> head. There was also a horrible bout with two

> episodes of measles and three of mumps. One one

> side, then the other, then both. That is why I try

> to do alot of natural anti-viral things as I believe

> my condition may originate from a viral origin.

> Yours Larry, could it be Mercury?

>

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[Guest guest]

Upon rereading these two emails. I have another friend

of mine with ms and her research into our ms all

points to viral... I was even diagnosed as having

" cyclymegalovirus " so google that one out folks... I

too also got too many rounds of all sorts of

vacinations all the time but only got chicken pox...

strange how my little one had 3 rounds of chicken pox

without any answers from doctors or from those in the

C.A.M. doctors. Mercury is fine if we don't keep it in

it's place, far from our bodies... .

--- LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

> Mercury? What about Venus and Mars? They're

> alright tonight

>

>

>

> Back in the 60s and 70s when doctors used to

> actually come to your home in the middle of the

> night, I do recall lots of alcohol rubdowns, high

> fevers, and SHOTS, sometimes antibiotics. What

> happens if you give young people Antibiotics when

> they don't have a bacterial infection? Back then

> they didn't do blood tests to find out if it's viral

> or bacterial, they just gave out the antibiotics.

>

> I don't know what made me any different than anyone

> else except for one factor, I was born with SBO and

> that may have been my precursor. 1981 surely wasn't

> the start of it, just a reflection of what was going

> on leading up to it.

>

> I remember back in the early 90s when my legs would

> react strangely to fast walking, one day someone

> named it, told me it was known as 'shin splints'?

> Ok, great, so it had a name. And I Used to be a

> sprinter, never had problems running or walking

> short distances. All of a sudden I started having

> these issues. Strange history, all seemingly

> unconnected... but looking back, it was ALL

> connection, all focal to MS, if not, then SBO.

> Re: [low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age

> symptoms, adult DX

>

>

> that is so interesting to me. When I was 5 I

> remember intermittently feeling a numb sensation on

> the right side of my temples. then at 16 I had a

> strange eye problem but when my vision was checked,

> it was 20-20. Then my toes got mysteriously numb for

> a few seconds in college walking in the snow but not

> an ordinary cold numb. A couple years later, laying

> on the beach in Lauderdale, I headed back for my car

> and my legs felt like I had thigh high boots on for

> maybe under 5 minutes. I look back and go aahh!!!

> Whatever gave me my condition, I had it an a very

> early age. What was I exposed to? Lots of

> antibiotics, pneumonia, and a pretty bad blow to the

> head. There was also a horrible bout with two

> episodes of measles and three of mumps. One one

> side, then the other, then both. That is why I try

> to do alot of natural anti-viral things as I believe

> my condition may originate from a viral origin.

> Yours Larry, could it be Mercury?

>

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[Guest guest]

This is supposedly a great way to protect your loved ones (children and siblings) from getting ms if it runs in the family-EVENING PRIMROSE OIL! You can read all about it in Judy Grahms book on ms and they have done numerous studies in Great Britain to support this hypothesis.

Uncanny enough, when I was in my late twenties I was having nausea and some other strange little symptoms. I started taking EPO and before you know it, my symptoms were gone! It makes one wonder if I had stayed on it, would it have kept[to the disease from manifesting? Now I think once it starts the dis-ease process, it is not the same as taking it prior. I would get all my children on that ASAP. Mothers milk and EPO both have the neuro-protective factor of GLA. Best, Kathy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Fw: Young age> symptoms, adult DX> > > that is so interesting to me. When I was 5 I> remember intermittently feeling a numb sensation on> the right side of my temples. then at 16 I had a> strange eye problem but when my vision was checked,> it was 20-20. Then my toes got mysteriously numb for> a few seconds in college walking in the snow but not> an ordinary cold numb. A couple years later, laying> on the beach in Lauderdale, I headed back for my car> and my legs felt like I had thigh high boots on for> maybe under 5 minutes. I look back and go aahh!!!> Whatever gave me my condition, I had it an a very> early age. What was I exposed to? Lots of> antibiotics, pneumonia, and a pretty bad blow to the> head. There was also a horrible bout with two> episodes of measles and three of mumps. One one> side, then the other, then both. That is why I try> to do alot of natural anti-viral things as I believe> my condition may originate from a viral origin.> Yours Larry, could it be Mercury? > __________________________________________________