Guest guest Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 My son had thrush also from birth (for 3 long painful years) and still has serious yeast issues at age 7. He had the same smell you're describing in his stools - it had to be from yeast overgrowth, but at the time the dr.s told me he was fine and I was neurotic You can try antifungals, herbal ones such as grapefruit seed extract or oil of oregano work well for my son, or prescriptions - my son takes Nystatin. I do have to limit his sugar, yeast and carb consumption which is very hard but otherwise it's an endless battle with killing and feeding yeast simultaneously. Good luck. Amy > > > > Hi - My son (4 yr, autism)was a 100% breastfed baby until 7 months of age. Both he and I had thrush (me of the nipples and he in his mouth) at a very young age - a few weeks. This was treated topically at the time with some cream. I noticed that his stools smelt a lot like yeast one day when I was passing a bread bakery... and the smell was so familiar! > > Is this the normal way for breast-fed babie's BM to smell or was that an early indication of the chronic yeast problem I'm now treating?? I'd been told that his BMs would not smell 'bad' because he was breast feeding so I never thought about it as an indictor of yeast issues... 'cause baked bread smells kind of good...but perhaps it was!? > > Now I give him probiotics as the main yeast treatment. Is there anythig else I can do? Eliminating sugar is not an option! > > TIA! > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 > Is this the normal way for breast-fed babie's BM to smell or was that an early indication of the chronic yeast problem I'm now treating?? My guess is your second option. > Now I give him probiotics as the main yeast treatment. Is there anythig else I can do? Eliminating sugar is not an option! You can try a more active yeast killer, like GSE or other similar http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 > Hi! I'd appreciate any thoughts: > > 1) Are pimply red marks on my son's behind a sign of yeast? It can be, or food/supplement intolerance. > 2) He is often scratching back there - is there anything safe to put on topically to reduce the itch? Lotrimin or other yeast-fighting cream. > 3) Currently using DMSA per Andy's low-dose protocol, 3 days on, 4 off (e.g., every weekend). I give GSE on the days I give DMSA. Should GSE also be given on days off the DMSA? Maybe the first " off " day. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 > Her tummy was hard and buldging last night and has been wiggleing a > lot. In my family, this meant food or supplement intolerance, or yeast overgrowth. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Can anyone answer this question about intestinal yeast overgrowth? Is it possible to get rid of a yeast problem with probiotics alone, or probiotics and enzymes -- or must you always resort to anti-fungals? If you do any of the above, will there always be symptoms of die-off? (And if there are not symptoms, does that mean that the yeast is not dying?) This is a new issue for me, so really know little. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 The topic of treating yeast (aka candida) is huge. At some point an anti-fungal is probably going to be necessary...many people start with natural anti-fungals like GSE (grapefruit seed extract) but do them in rotation. Depending on the severity and type of candida, a prescription anti-fungal may also be warranted. It is also fundamental to reduce the amount of sugars and carbohydrates being eaten so as to starve the candida. Rotating probiotics is also a good idea. To know which anti-fungals and probiotics to use and in what quantities and for how long at a time, it is best to work with a trusted medical practioner who has experience in treating candida and who knows about other medical conditions which could conflict with the various combinations of antifungals and probiotics (i.e. some of these contain ingredients like casein, gluten, or other allergens). They can also order fecal digestive tests that can tell you exactly which funghi (or bacteria) are present and the results usually come with a chart telling which to which antifungals each responds or does not respond. One of my sons, just to give one example, had severe candida and after many months of various planned treatments for it, we tried one certain probiotic but it made his stomach bloat up like a balloon about to pop. This was happening because that particular probiotic went as far as the colon to do its work and the swelling signaled that we had not finished killing the candida further up the intestinal track. We had to stop it and try another one that didn't work as far down and there were no other problems. As for die-off symptoms, I would say that the severity varies greatly from one person to another, based on their overall conditions. To control them, you can try activated charcoal - but there are dosing timing issues with that because when you take it absorbs EVERYTHING (food, vitamins, whatever you've taken right before) so lots of people recommend giving it before bed. You also may need to alter antifungal and/or probiotic dosing, too, to reduce the negative effects. Forgive me if I don't elaborate further, but as I stated earlier - it is a very vast and complex subject. I really think it needs a medical expert with who to collaborate for the most individualized care. Here are a few of the more informative websites that can hopefully answer with more details some of your questions. Try doing a Google search for keywords " candida " " candida albicans " " candida and die-off " and browse more websites from the search results. http://breathing.com/articles/candida.htm http://www.modernherbalist.com/dieoff.html http://www.mycandida.com/dieoff.htm ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Something you could try for fighting Yeast that I have had fantastic results with is Caprylic Acid. It rids your body of yeast and fungus. It's even suppose to help with yucky toe nails (long term) and ringworm. Basically, It's a fatty acid that helps your body detox fungus and yeast from the body and this website even claims that it helps rid your body of some bacteria like strep and staph! So if that's true maybe it could help with the Lymes too. And after all those antibiotics it's a given that we will all be left with a monster case of candida. And of course tons of Pro-biotics help greatly. Especially, after your done with the antibiotics. Of course you'd have to ask the doc first. I've only seen it in pill form at the vitamin shops but it does come in a liquid online that is suppose to be more absorbent. http://www.ehow.com/about_5032775_benefits-caprylic-acid.html and there's lots of other info on Google. Suzanne On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Nikki wrote: > Dear Margaret > > So sorry to hear that you are finding the yeast taking over. My > daughter & I (who both have LD) found the yeast unbearable, it was > just so painful & we have it under control now, so I thought you > might find it interesting to know what worked for us. > > We stuck to a really strict yeast free diet (no commercial bread > etc), and a strict no sugar diet (that means no commercial bread as > well in the US, plus most commercial breakfast cereals etc)(we did > find a few sugar free ice creams which we were very excited about). > Now that our yeast is under control we can have the occasional sugar > treat, and my daughter is tolerating bread that doesn't have sugar > in it. > > We were also really strict on taking our pro-biotics every day. In > fact it is essential for anyone on antibiotics to take pro-biotics > (at least 2 hours after abx - I take mine just before bedtime & that > works fine), as without them you are open to a c.diff infection, > which can be fatal. You need to take a good one, most pro-biotics > from the healthfood store or drug store aren't strong enough (see a > naturopath or your LLMD). > > When it gets REALLY bad, we use either VSL-3 or I have actually > found the Restore Probiotic to be better (and cheaper in the long > run, and it is easier to travel with because it can stay out of the > fridge for a few days without damaging it too much) http://shop.restormedicine.com/Dr-Nicolas-Probiotic-Formula-PRO1.htm > > We haven't had any problems with yeast for over 12 months now that > we've been following this regime, and it has made a huge difference. > If I do sense there is any kind of yeasty thing coming on, I hit it > with the Restore pro-biotics for a day or two, but most of the time > I just take what our LLMD prescribes. > > I hope this helps & you find what works for you & your daughter. > > Best of luck > > Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > Wondering if any children have throat issues as one of their > symptoms? > > > > > > > > > > Since beginning Bactrim back in June of this year, our > daughter has > > > >complained that her throat feels small, weird, feels like a > lump. She was taking > > > >the Bactrim for Bart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have recently stopped the Bactrim due to a possible sulfa > allergy, but the > > > >throat issues continue and then she gets nervous when it > happens and then says > > > >it is hard to breath. > > > > > > > > > > She did not have any throat issues for ten months when > treating with Mino and > > > >Rifampin. > > > > > > > > > > Also, her anxiety is more bothersome since the Bactrim. She > also began two > > > >day a week of Tindamax shortly after beginning the Bactrim. > > > > > > > > > > So not sure if one or both stirred something up. She has not > been diagnosed > > > >with Babs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts, Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Hi Nikki and Suzzane, I will look into your suggestions. I've heard of those things and we've tried the diet for almost a year and then given up because my daughter didn't grow or gain weight at all during those 9 months and we had to stop.I'm slowly going back on it but for her it is more complicated as she's a former preemie with lots of GI issues. She didn't react well to GSE or oil of Oregano but I'll look into Caprylic Acid and see what it is made of etc. Maybe I'll try it first and then see about her. Thanks so much I'm sure I'll be following up with more later! > > > > > > > > > > > > Wondering if any children have throat issues as one of their > > symptoms? > > > > > > > > > > > > Since beginning Bactrim back in June of this year, our > > daughter has > > > > >complained that her throat feels small, weird, feels like a > > lump. She was taking > > > > >the Bactrim for Bart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have recently stopped the Bactrim due to a possible sulfa > > allergy, but the > > > > >throat issues continue and then she gets nervous when it > > happens and then says > > > > >it is hard to breath. > > > > > > > > > > > > She did not have any throat issues for ten months when > > treating with Mino and > > > > >Rifampin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, her anxiety is more bothersome since the Bactrim. She > > also began two > > > > >day a week of Tindamax shortly after beginning the Bactrim. > > > > > > > > > > > > So not sure if one or both stirred something up. She has not > > been diagnosed > > > > >with Babs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts, Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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