Re: Re: milk free/MSG

[Guest guest]

Raw milk contains glutathione -don't know about organic. Here's just

one article:

Yasuji Hojo1

(1) Department of Food Science, Faculty of Living Science, Kyoto

Prefectural University, 606 Shimogamo, Kyoto, Japan

Accepted: 13 April 1982

Abstract Samples of raw or pasteurized cow's milk and infant formula

were assayed for glutathione peroxidase (GSH-Px) activity, selenium

(Se), and total protein. GSH-Px activity was detected in raw milk,

but not in market-pasteurized milk or infant formula. The correlation

between GSH-Px activity and Se levels was significant, even when the

influence of protein level was removed. This result implies a role of

GSH-Px as one of biologically active forms of Se in raw milk. Absence

of GSH-Px activity in pasteurized milk and infant formula result from

the heating process in these productions, because the heating of raw

milk gave an irreversible inactivation of GSH-Px. Both GSH-Px

activity and Se levels had significant correlation with protein

level, but not so when the respective influences of Se and GSH-Px

levels were removed. In raw cow's milk, Se content was 23 ng/mL and

GSH-Px activity was 20 U/mL. About 12% of Se was bound to GSH-Px, and

0.003% of protein was GSH-Px. Raw milk obtained in July contained

higher levels of Se, GSH-Px, and protein than that in November. Data

for cow's milk were discussed in relation to those for human milk and

those in New Zealand.

Index Entries Selenium - glutathione peroxidase - raw cow's milk -

pasteurized cow's milk - infant formula - infant nutrition - active

forms of selenium - correlation between glutathione peroxidase and

selenium levels

http://www.springerlink.com/content/d02128623398w127/

You know ever since I posted here that I buy my raw milk at Whole

Foods it's always sold out! A bunch of you don't live near Whole

Foods do you? When I asked why it's always sold out now they told me

that it now sells out the day it comes in most times and to call so I

don't waste my time going over there. They sell cigarettes with a

warning that if you smoke them you will die from it - and they sell

them for " human consumption " not just for pets... but raw milk which

we all know is so healthy and the risks are there but when you weight

it most of us still want to drink it. And that we can't just go and

buy. And PS -I don't and never did smoke cigarettes. (I want my raw

milk waaahhh)]

For those that don't know the pros and cons of raw milk this is the

best article I found

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/01/19/raw_milk/

raw milk facts

http://www.realmilk.com/

http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/

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[Guest guest]

To continue this.....

The worst part about MSG is that it inhibits the production of glutathione which

many of our children are deficient in. Glutathione is kind of like the bodies

internal soap machine.... it scrubs away all of the toxins from the body and

helps everything nasty get removed by the system.

When you are low in glutathione you become susceptible to diseases such as heart

disease and cancer, etc. since the body is exposed and vunerable to outside

sources of 'nasties'. In addition, the body cannot get rid of the 'garbage' it

is absorbing and so everything builds up in the system and the child's toxic

load increases and increases.

Mark has 'late-stage' glutathione deficiency which indicates that he has been

low for quite some time now.... Thus, anything that inhibits the production of

it (such as an excitotoxin) like MSG, has simply got to be avoided for him. He

needs all the glutathione he can get!

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[Guest guest]

I didn't know that about MSG. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

glutathione is part of the methylation process, right? I've been

reading a bit about that as it relates to the mB12 shots we just

started. Has your doc recommended the shots? FYI -- they are very

easy to give, and not painful. The baby didn't even cry last night,

even though I skipped the numbing creme.

[Guest guest]

This is the thing that confuses me and why I did try a diet first.

Re: sulfur...diet affects that...can affect the whole thing so why

not start at the beginning? Different if the kid is older and there

is less control or if the child involved has severe sensory/texture

issues. Am I missing something? It did seem that too much cleaning

out, including of vitamins was happening in my speech kid, precisely

why we looked at diet and allergy. In the other kid is seemed like

not enough removal was going on and looked at those things. We still

work on the right diet and are told by docs that will always be a

challenge. The speech and tone issues are becoming less of a

challenge and in our case, the only case I can speak of, the diet

stuff is a part of that and paved the way for fish oil to help us

even more as these things were done separately because I did not want

to withold food I did not have to.

>

> ,

>

>

> Disclaimer on the below.... I may not have this exactly right

so.... take what I say with a grain of salt and do your own research

for I am an accountant by trade not a biochemist! This stuff is

complicated.....

>

> If I have it wrong.... Please don't be too mad! But DO correct

me! I know that this list did have a DAN floating around who can

probably do the cycle justice! Study it as I might; I still do have

trouble with the methylation system!

>

> I believe....it goes like this..... that glutathione is what

everyone is trying to get the body to produce; because the

methylation pathway is sometimes damaged, there are round-about ways

of going about it. B12 shots is one way, DMG, oral glutathione,

transdermal glutathione, IV glutathione, Epsom Salts baths for low

sulfate kids, everyone is trying to kick-start this process and get

the methlyation pathway up and running again. B12 is an alternative

route if the pathway is damaged.

>

> Now to further complicate matters, there are over-methylators and

under-methlyators. The majority of the kids tend to be under-

methylators which means that they lack GSH (or glutathione).

>

> If you look at the lecture at

http://www.autism.com/families/videos.htm by Professor , one of

the things that they found with the kids during the DMSA testing, ALL

of the children's glutathione levels normalized after one round (test

round) of DMSA. If the glutathione level was high, it became lower.

If the glutathione level was low, it rose to be within normal ranges.

>

> Glutathione is literally a miracle worker for our kids. Its

affects on the body and the brain are profound. I give Mark reduced

oral glutathione at 500 mg, 3 times a day. It seems to work and

helps to keep him more stable (less regressions) than we have

experienced in past. Yet, a lot of people don't believe that the

body absorbs oral glutathione effectively. IV glutathione gets a lot

of recognition but my doc feels that the best way to get glutathione

would be via a nebulizer (not available to us but this is his opinion

of the best route).

>

> One of the things that I have noticed in giving Mark DMSA 3 days on

and 11 days off is that he seems to regress less and less. Or at

least, they are less 'profound' regressions (knock on wood!) than

they have been in the past and he is slowly getting better and better

in function.

>

> I am excited to add infared sauna therapy into this mix. I am

hopeful that the funds will be available next month so that we can

get this started and really work at getting his system completely

detoxed and clear of metals.

>

> For those of you who own infared saunas, is it necessary to get the

3 man or will the 2 man sauna do the job (or is it too

clausterphobic)?

>

> Talk to you soon.

>

> Janice

>

>

>

>

> [sPAM]Re:[ ] Re: milk free/MSG

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>

> I didn't know that about MSG. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

> glutathione is part of the methylation process, right? I've been

> reading a bit about that as it relates to the mB12 shots we just

> started. Has your doc recommended the shots? FYI -- they are very

> easy to give, and not painful. The baby didn't even cry last

night,

> even though I skipped the numbing creme.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Disclaimer on the below.... I may not have this exactly right so.... take what I

say with a grain of salt and do your own research for I am an accountant by

trade not a biochemist! This stuff is complicated.....

If I have it wrong.... Please don't be too mad! But DO correct me! I know that

this list did have a DAN floating around who can probably do the cycle justice!

Study it as I might; I still do have trouble with the methylation system!

I believe....it goes like this..... that glutathione is what everyone is trying

to get the body to produce; because the methylation pathway is sometimes

damaged, there are round-about ways of going about it. B12 shots is one way,

DMG, oral glutathione, transdermal glutathione, IV glutathione, Epsom Salts

baths for low sulfate kids, everyone is trying to kick-start this process and

get the methlyation pathway up and running again. B12 is an alternative route

if the pathway is damaged.

Now to further complicate matters, there are over-methylators and

under-methlyators. The majority of the kids tend to be under-methylators which

means that they lack GSH (or glutathione).

If you look at the lecture at http://www.autism.com/families/videos.htm by

Professor , one of the things that they found with the kids during the DMSA

testing, ALL of the children's glutathione levels normalized after one round

(test round) of DMSA. If the glutathione level was high, it became lower. If

the glutathione level was low, it rose to be within normal ranges.

Glutathione is literally a miracle worker for our kids. Its affects on the body

and the brain are profound. I give Mark reduced oral glutathione at 500 mg, 3

times a day. It seems to work and helps to keep him more stable (less

regressions) than we have experienced in past. Yet, a lot of people don't

believe that the body absorbs oral glutathione effectively. IV glutathione gets

a lot of recognition but my doc feels that the best way to get glutathione would

be via a nebulizer (not available to us but this is his opinion of the best

route).

One of the things that I have noticed in giving Mark DMSA 3 days on and 11 days

off is that he seems to regress less and less. Or at least, they are less

'profound' regressions (knock on wood!) than they have been in the past and he

is slowly getting better and better in function.

I am excited to add infared sauna therapy into this mix. I am hopeful that the

funds will be available next month so that we can get this started and really

work at getting his system completely detoxed and clear of metals.

For those of you who own infared saunas, is it necessary to get the 3 man or

will the 2 man sauna do the job (or is it too clausterphobic)?

Talk to you soon.

Janice

[sPAM]Re:[ ] Re: milk free/MSG

I didn't know that about MSG. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

glutathione is part of the methylation process, right? I've been

reading a bit about that as it relates to the mB12 shots we just

started. Has your doc recommended the shots? FYI -- they are very

easy to give, and not painful. The baby didn't even cry last night,

even though I skipped the numbing creme.

[Guest guest]

I will second Janice on this one. Buffered C and Vit E also help to promote

healthy glutathoine. My child is a different child on it. Awesome stuff.

Totally natural.

Re:[ ] Re: milk free/MSG

,

Disclaimer on the below.... I may not have this exactly right so.... take

what I say with a grain of salt and do your own research for I am an

accountant by trade not a biochemist! This stuff is complicated.....

If I have it wrong.... Please don't be too mad! But DO correct me! I know

that this list did have a DAN floating around who can probably do the cycle

justice! Study it as I might; I still do have trouble with the methylation

system!

I believe....it goes like this..... that glutathione is what everyone is

trying to get the body to produce; because the methylation pathway is

sometimes damaged, there are round-about ways of going about it. B12 shots

is one way, DMG, oral glutathione, transdermal glutathione, IV glutathione,

Epsom Salts baths for low sulfate kids, everyone is trying to kick-start

this process and get the methlyation pathway up and running again. B12 is an

alternative route if the pathway is damaged.

Now to further complicate matters, there are over-methylators and

under-methlyators. The majority of the kids tend to be under-methylators

which means that they lack GSH (or glutathione).

If you look at the lecture at http://www.autism.

<http://www.autism.com/families/videos.htm> com/families/videos.htm by

Professor , one of the things that they found with the kids during the

DMSA testing, ALL of the children's glutathione levels normalized after one

round (test round) of DMSA. If the glutathione level was high, it became

lower. If the glutathione level was low, it rose to be within normal ranges.

Glutathione is literally a miracle worker for our kids. Its affects on the

body and the brain are profound. I give Mark reduced oral glutathione at 500

mg, 3 times a day. It seems to work and helps to keep him more stable (less

regressions) than we have experienced in past. Yet, a lot of people don't

believe that the body absorbs oral glutathione effectively. IV glutathione

gets a lot of recognition but my doc feels that the best way to get

glutathione would be via a nebulizer (not available to us but this is his

opinion of the best route).

One of the things that I have noticed in giving Mark DMSA 3 days on and 11

days off is that he seems to regress less and less. Or at least, they are

less 'profound' regressions (knock on wood!) than they have been in the past

and he is slowly getting better and better in function.

I am excited to add infared sauna therapy into this mix. I am hopeful that

the funds will be available next month so that we can get this started and

really work at getting his system completely detoxed and clear of metals.

For those of you who own infared saunas, is it necessary to get the 3 man or

will the 2 man sauna do the job (or is it too clausterphobic)?

Talk to you soon.

Janice

[sPAM]Re:[ ] Re: milk free/MSG

I didn't know that about MSG. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

glutathione is part of the methylation process, right? I've been

reading a bit about that as it relates to the mB12 shots we just

started. Has your doc recommended the shots? FYI -- they are very

easy to give, and not painful. The baby didn't even cry last night,

even though I skipped the numbing creme.