Re: In your experience, how much speech therapy is enough (or too much)?

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This is about what my son started out with @ 3y.o. and today @ 6 y.o. he is

doing great. He is talking in sentences. His articulation is age

appropriate. His receptive & expressive is delayed but I believe that is

due to auditory processing problems. I will be trying out the Listening

Program this week to address this last remaining problem.

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Hello all - our 3yo DD just transitioned from Early Intervention to a

preschool-disabled program. She gets speech in school for 30 minutes,

three times a week. We are just starting private speech therapy, twice

a week. And of course we work on language non-stop at home.

DD has about five words (some are closer to approximations than

words). We have added fish oil, and eliminated dairy. (She also gets

OT in school and on horseback, and attends SN gymnastics.)

I'm wondering if we need more formal speech therapy, or if we're fine

with what we have so long as we continue to emphasize language at

home.

What are you all doing with your DCs? And how is that working for

you?

Thanks.

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My son is in a preschool disabled program also. He gets the same 30 minutes

3x/week one on one therapy. But the program is language based and they work on

speech and signing all the time. This has been a great program for my son. He

gets OT and PT also while there. We have a ton of new sounds and occasional

words since going SCD. I also work with him all the time at home. Now, when he

signs a request to me, I have him make a sound to go with it. By last night I

was asking him what he wanted and holding his hands so he had to try and say it.

I would break it down to the single sound. And he was doing it which really

surprised me. (mmm-more, eeee-eat, oooo-juice) and I will keep trying to

build on these and sometimes he gets close to the whole word. We do vit E and

CLO also. I wouldn't do any more speech therapy for my son as we or his

teachers are working with him all the time, unless I found a Kaufman speech

therapist. I think that would help him since he does have

sounds now but still has trouble putting them together.

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From: " luckymom987 " <eileenduffy999@...>

Hello all - our 3yo DD just transitioned from Early Intervention to a

preschool-disabled program. She gets speech in school for 30 minutes,

three times a week. We are just starting private speech therapy, twice

a week. And of course we work on language non-stop at home.

DD has about five words (some are closer to approximations than

words). We have added fish oil, and eliminated dairy. (She also gets

OT in school and on horseback, and attends SN gymnastics.)

I'm wondering if we need more formal speech therapy, or if we're fine

with what we have so long as we continue to emphasize language at

home.

What are you all doing with your DCs? And how is that working for

you?

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

If you are willing to drve and need someone good I can help you.

>

> My son is in a preschool disabled program also. He gets the same

30 minutes 3x/week one on one therapy. But the program is language

based and they work on speech and signing all the time. This has

been a great program for my son. He gets OT and PT also while

there. We have a ton of new sounds and occasional words since going

SCD. I also work with him all the time at home. Now, when he signs

a request to me, I have him make a sound to go with it. By last

night I was asking him what he wanted and holding his hands so he had

to try and say it. I would break it down to the single sound. And

he was doing it which really surprised me. (mmm-more, eeee-eat, oooo-

juice) and I will keep trying to build on these and sometimes he

gets close to the whole word. We do vit E and CLO also. I wouldn't

do any more speech therapy for my son as we or his teachers are

working with him all the time, unless I found a Kaufman speech

therapist. I think that would help him since he does have

> sounds now but still has trouble putting them together.

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " luckymom987 " <eileenduffy999@...>

> Hello all - our 3yo DD just transitioned from Early Intervention to

a

> preschool-disabled program. She gets speech in school for 30

minutes,

> three times a week. We are just starting private speech therapy,

twice

> a week. And of course we work on language non-stop at home.

>

> DD has about five words (some are closer to approximations than

> words). We have added fish oil, and eliminated dairy. (She also

gets

> OT in school and on horseback, and attends SN gymnastics.)

>

> I'm wondering if we need more formal speech therapy, or if we're

fine

> with what we have so long as we continue to emphasize language at

> home.

>

> What are you all doing with your DCs? And how is that working for

> you?

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son has 3 hours of speech therapy per week (2 through the Early

Intervention and 1 privately). I am still looking to add another

hour privately as soon as the SLP has an opening.

Hetal in CA

>

> Hello all - our 3yo DD just transitioned from Early Intervention

to a

> preschool-disabled program. She gets speech in school for 30

minutes,

> three times a week. We are just starting private speech therapy,

twice

> a week. And of course we work on language non-stop at home.

>

> DD has about five words (some are closer to approximations than

> words). We have added fish oil, and eliminated dairy. (She also

gets

> OT in school and on horseback, and attends SN gymnastics.)

>

> I'm wondering if we need more formal speech therapy, or if we're

fine

> with what we have so long as we continue to emphasize language at

> home.

>

> What are you all doing with your DCs? And how is that working for

> you?

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

I am curious to know what you mean by " more formal " speech therapy?

Is the school providing one-on-one therapy or group therapy? Is your

child a late talker or does she have a speech disorder like apraxia?

When my child transitioned out of EI we had two one-on-one with a

school therapist and 1 one-on-one private therapy. They both worked

with the Kaufman cards and worksheets out of the Easy Does it for

Apraxia workbook. They both worked on getting him to learn the basic

sounds connected with a long vowel. My son had a lot of trouble with

lip placement for b,m,and p. So they both worked on getting him to

put his lips together and oral motor exercises to help with this.

Once he was able to follow the prompting of lips together they moved

on to adding long vowels-like bee, bye, bow, bay, boo. Therapy for

the child is/should always be individualized for what the child is

having trouble with. Through the school they should be working on

the IEP goals. In the link section there is a folder that you may be

interested in. It has many links and ideas that might help you for

at home. 5 speech sessions, OT, and PT is a great amount of

therapy. You are lucky you were able to get that for your daughter.

Pat yourself on the back because that is wonderful you were able to

get that for your child!!

/links

folder=therapy idea - for at home

HTH,

Tina

>

> Hello all - our 3yo DD just transitioned from Early Intervention to

a

> preschool-disabled program. She gets speech in school for 30

minutes,

> three times a week. We are just starting private speech therapy,

twice

> a week. And of course we work on language non-stop at home.

>

> DD has about five words (some are closer to approximations than

> words). We have added fish oil, and eliminated dairy. (She also

gets

> OT in school and on horseback, and attends SN gymnastics.)

>

> I'm wondering if we need more formal speech therapy, or if we're

fine

> with what we have so long as we continue to emphasize language at

> home.

>

> What are you all doing with your DCs? And how is that working for

> you?

>

> Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

I should have said " additional " speech therapy. She gets one-on-one

sessions in school. And by formal, I meant with a speech therapist,

not the work we do with her at home. DD has apraxia.

Thanks so much for the feedback.

>

> I am curious to know what you mean by " more formal " speech therapy?

> Is the school providing one-on-one therapy or group therapy? Is your

> child a late talker or does she have a speech disorder like apraxia?

> When my child transitioned out of EI we had two one-on-one with a

> school therapist and 1 one-on-one private therapy. They both worked

> with the Kaufman cards and worksheets out of the Easy Does it for

> Apraxia workbook. They both worked on getting him to learn the basic

> sounds connected with a long vowel. My son had a lot of trouble with

> lip placement for b,m,and p. So they both worked on getting him to

> put his lips together and oral motor exercises to help with this.

> Once he was able to follow the prompting of lips together they moved

> on to adding long vowels-like bee, bye, bow, bay, boo. Therapy for

> the child is/should always be individualized for what the child is

> having trouble with. Through the school they should be working on

> the IEP goals. In the link section there is a folder that you may be

> interested in. It has many links and ideas that might help you for

> at home. 5 speech sessions, OT, and PT is a great amount of

> therapy. You are lucky you were able to get that for your daughter.

> Pat yourself on the back because that is wonderful you were able to

> get that for your child!!

>

> /links

> folder=therapy idea - for at home

>

> HTH,

> Tina

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Eileen (?)

Have you seen this speech therapy matrix? You would have to know the

severity of your child's diagnosis. Mild to profound.

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/therapymatrix.html

What is your child's diagnosis btw? Have you observed the therapy at

school to see how knowledgeable the therapist is about your child's

condition? Do you believe you would be able to tell the difference?

Do you have any local support groups near you to have someone who has

been there before help you advocate? Since school began are you

noticing any improvements with the therapy? What does the IEP goals

have for 3 months -6 months. After 3 months of no progress either

the therapy, therapist or diagnosis should be examined again as

perhaps one of them isn't appropriate. It's a bit of a time game in

that your job is to help get her up to speed as quickly as possible

and not to keep her in a situation just because she's getting the

right amount of the wrong therapy -or the right amount of the right

therapy for the wrong condition or the right amount of the right

therapy with a therapist who isn't very good. Don't worry about

hurting anyone's feelings because in a year or so you may never see

the same school professionals again, you could move, but your

daughter is always.

In short to answer your question -many of the children in this group

had almost daily therapy between EI or school and private therapy (we

never counted at home in most cases because as you say that's a

given!)

What are the 5 words your child has now? What is the formula and

dosage of fish oil you are using and why did you eliminate milk?

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