Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Your daughter is blessed to have you on her side because without advocacy these children get pushed aside into the " they are normal just on the low end, or.etc. My daughter was diagnosed at 13. I knew she was different because at the park she stayed alone and preferred to pick up rocks and walk on the grass than jump up to the slide. I was in the medical field too and I thought I should have known but really many professionals still don't have a clue about what our kids experience. Now that she has a diagnosis family give her a little more " tolerance " for being different but teachers don't believe she's being affected that severely, because after all she is " gifted " . Sadly, this gift is actually what's gotten in the way of her getting help sooner. Keep encouraging your little girl. I still tell my daughter " You're stronger than you think " . > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hi My dd is also 3.5 yo and dx AS this past May! Your history sounds similar. >>>clip>>> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, etc. Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on comfort items and carry small items with them. >>>> I can totally relate. My ds had comfort items and we ran into the problem of not being able to replace them when they were worn out. So with a as soon as I saw a comfort item that I knew was here to stay (her bear blanket...little bear head on a little blanket) I found 2 more and started rotating them, for washing and such and to make sure they wear evenly :-) She then added a monkey (for a while her nick name was chunky monkey...not anymore) it is a TY brand monkey so I had to order 2 more " collector " ones off e-bay....at a hefty price but well worth it. I don't think she knows there are 3 sets. But we cant do or go any where without them. She holds bear right up by her lips and kindof suckles with her mouth shut...oh and she has to " fix " bears ears just " so " ...so that it hits her nose right...oh well it works and just last week she verbalized that " bear helps me when I am scared or hurt or feel bad " It was an awesome moment! a does like to have small items in her hands, she would always hold 2-3 items (balls ect) in her hands while crawling. Never knew the comfort thing...fixating on the item was an AS thing...interesting :-) Oh yeah...2 months before she was DX AS the CDSA (state EI) spent an hour telling us why she wasn't AS...but said they would DX OCD...Whatever...we went to a developmental Pediatrician and he DX AS! But I hear ya on the OCD stuff! - C. Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID ( ) Our story I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update everyone. When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a hearing test, etc. At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, wait for what? I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that someone was finally willing to help!! As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know what we are dealing with and can help her. I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire gets hot. So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with time. I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the system. If you can't help your child, then who will? My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. For us, the time-out chair works great. Take care everyone and thank you for listening. Dave oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, etc. Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on comfort items and carry small items with them. To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the exact same comfort item. There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Yes , my son was like your daughter in many ways. He is now 13 yrs old. But, when he was 1 yrs old he loved this stuffed bear and wouldn't sleep or eat or anything without it. We thought this was cute and normal. But he didn't let it go even at age 5, he still was very insecure without the bear, and we were trying to get him to like other things. He wouldn't play with cars....he liked to play with beads and with strings of beads [like for a christmas tree]. He now is older but has a huge collection of stuffed animals.....and they can't be just ANY stuffed animal.....it has to have a look about the eyes that only he can really see, and he makes high-squeeky noises when he pretends that the animals are talking. It's very complicated to explain, but he don't really love on them and all.....he makes these very funny and crazy cartoons out of them.....kinda like normal cartoons and he's the narator and the producer and the audience too, [and will laugh at his own cartoons]. He can get his little brother who is 9 yrs old and [normal]to play this game with him alot as well. I thank God for his little brother.....he forces my aspie out of his own little world and into ours. There is nothing like a little brother with a football saying 'heads up'! forcing him to catch a ball....when he isn't interested in it at all. Also, a little brother who comes up and tackles you and tries to pin you and can almost do so.......he is giving life in ways he don't even know to a big brother who is easily drawn into his own world. He is not only sometimes joining his big brother into that strange little world.....but forcing him to join into his own as well, and will get him to play. Of course sometimes they fight, but they are brothers and brothers do that. I did not plan my second child, but I thank God daily that he gave him to us, God knows what He is doing. ( ) Our story I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update everyone. When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a hearing test, etc. At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, wait for what? I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that someone was finally willing to help!! As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know what we are dealing with and can help her. I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire gets hot. So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with time. I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the system. If you can't help your child, then who will? My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. For us, the time-out chair works great. Take care everyone and thank you for listening. Dave oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, etc. Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on comfort items and carry small items with them. To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the exact same comfort item. There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hi, , I can identify with so much of your message. My daughter, Gracie is 3.6 years old and is being evaluated over this month and part of next for ASD. So far, the doc has seen anxiety, some OCD, and some autistic traits. She will meet with three other professionals before she receives a dx, if any. Yes, family didn't want to hear that something was different even though they saw her legendary tantrums and very strange behavior with not wanting to put on swimsuits and pitching huge tantrums over them when we all vacationed together last summer despite liking to swim! (boy, I cried a lot on that vacation!!). Our daughter also used to carry around very strange objects but has pretty much quit that... she still does not play with toys normally though. She colors mostly or draws. And her speech is mixed up since age 2.5... reversing pronouns, not able to carry on a conversation like your daughter, etc. DD also has extreme tantrums over clothing, so for now, we are letting her wear lots of dresses and tights since she hates socks, etc... the fights are just so draining. Best with everything... sounds like your daughter is progressing and getting some help. I look forward to getting those things in the next couple months. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 My daughter is 17 (18) next month and is fixated on Yu-Gi-Oh the tv show and anything to do with that Anime Cartoon. Carolyn ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 & - I hear ya'! DO NOT let them know that there is more then 1 monkey. I speak from personal experience. (AS) and (ADD) (twins - 3-1/2) both had the same stuffed pig in their NICU incubators from day 1. eventually comandeered both of those, then I wised up and bought 2 more " collectible " stuffed pigs, until I had a set of 4 that could be swapped. They found them all. Then as a part of his heavy work therapy, to ease transitions, he started carrying a plastic basket, all 4 pigs went into the basket. The basket went everywhere. Even to bed (to ease getting up the stairs). Stuff went into the basket and seemed to never get out. was soon carrying around armloads of stuff, including all 4 pigs. And he had to have all 4. He slept with them in a litter under his belly. Then we lost 1. You have no idea how we tore our world apart to find that pig. I also went back to the source and tried to no avail to get a few more. Wouldn't you know that there were no more in the continental US available? 6 weeks later it showed up on the lecturn at church, because the pastor knew he had seen it somewhere and knew it was important, but couldn't remember who needed it. It was the toughest 6 weeks of our life. I have since hidden 2 away and we seem to be down to sleeping with just the 2 pigs, and 2 wolves (mommy & daddy barky) and a small sheepdog (baby barky). (and a small mini cooper, a flash light and a space shuttle) (and a blanket, plastic hanger, and small curious george doll) (I am not kidding - don't laugh, you all know exactly what I am talking about!) So moral of the story - wise to have multiple transitional objects, but unwise to make it known. Gwen > > Hi > My dd is also 3.5 yo and dx AS this past May! > > Your history sounds similar. > > >>>clip>>> > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > >>>> > > I can totally relate. My ds had comfort items and we ran into the problem of not being able to replace them when they were worn out. So with a as soon as I saw a comfort item that I knew was here to stay (her bear blanket...little bear head on a little blanket) I found 2 more and started rotating them, for washing and such and to make sure they wear evenly :-) > > She then added a monkey (for a while her nick name was chunky monkey...not anymore) it is a TY brand monkey so I had to order 2 more " collector " ones off e-bay....at a hefty price but well worth it. > > I don't think she knows there are 3 sets. But we cant do or go any where without them. She holds bear right up by her lips and kindof suckles with her mouth shut...oh and she has to " fix " bears ears just " so " ...so that it hits her nose right...oh well it works and just last week she verbalized that " bear helps me when I am scared or hurt or feel bad " It was an awesome moment! > > a does like to have small items in her hands, she would always hold 2-3 items (balls ect) in her hands while crawling. > > Never knew the comfort thing...fixating on the item was an AS thing...interesting :-) > > Oh yeah...2 months before she was DX AS the CDSA (state EI) spent an hour telling us why she wasn't AS...but said they would DX OCD...Whatever...we went to a developmental Pediatrician and he DX AS! But I hear ya on the OCD stuff! > > - C. > Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID > > > ( ) Our story > > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I'm really impressed that you wouldn't give up until you found what was wrong with your daughter. Way to go! As far as our so called friends & a few of the relatives that thought our Grandson were just bad .. they took off too. Hey who needs them. We have had custody of our Grandson, for the past 10yr he is now 14yrs old. If he was living with his mom or dad God knows were he'd be now. He was Dx'd around 8- 9 yrs old with Asperger/Bipolar/OCD/Chronic Motor Tic Disorder & they thought he was just bad. Take care,Betty <droehl1234@...> wrote: I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update everyone. When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a hearing test, etc. At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, wait for what? I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that someone was finally willing to help!! As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know what we are dealing with and can help her. I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire gets hot. So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with time. I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the system. If you can't help your child, then who will? My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. For us, the time-out chair works great. Take care everyone and thank you for listening. Dave oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, etc. Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on comfort items and carry small items with them. To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the exact same comfort item. There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Wow...I will be more careful, so she doesn't find out! Besides Bear and Mi-Mi (the monkey) she has Princess Bear, Reindeer, Snowman, Eddie the Sea Turtle and Big Dora that sleep in bed with her! Just a couple weeks ago we started the new rule that only 2 animals (she calls them her friends) can come out of her room with her. So far the rule is working :-) - C. Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID ( ) Our story > > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Mack, who's 14, likes stuffed animals, as well. I did manage to get him to stop carrying them in public. He is fixated on Pokemon and Kirby video games, too. He is also fixated on Bionicles. I have had more trouble getting him to stop carrying those in public. I have used a social story with him to try and help him understand that if NT kids from school see him with these toys in a store then they will probably make fun of him, then he may go into a rage, and the consequences will not be good. We have to review this everytime we go somewhere. It works when we are close to home, but he can not process that his peers from school might be at the mall 10 miles away or the stores near his grandmother's house because he has never seen them there. But we live in a rural area and this mall and stores near his grandmother's house are the closest for everyone in our community. Most of the time he gets very angry with me for bringing up the subject and not letting him carry what he wants. He sees me as the enemy and " picky " instead of as the person who is trying to protect him. I am his stepmom and he lives with his dad and I. It does not help that his adoptive mom (my husband's ex) tells him that it is okay to be " unique. " I agree that he should be allowed to be himself, but I also know that he cannot handle the teasing that may follow. His Momma lets him wear what he wants, carry what he wants, and hug all over her like he is still a preschooler even in public. She has no limits and boundaries for him which makes things even more difficult. If he does chores at her house, she tells him how wonderful he is no matter how poorly he does things. She never reminds him to use soap or shampoo or deoderant. So when he comes back home to us, we become the " picky " parents. I'm sure that he hears those words from his Momma, too. He is constantly telling us, therapists, psychiatrists that " Momma and I have a bond that is so strong that it cannot be broken and no one else has that kind of bond with us. " This is despite the fact that his Momma left him and his dad when Mack was 7 and moved to England to be with a man that she met on the internet. That lasted about a year and then she was back in the US and has been inconsistently in his life since. He never knows when she is going to call and many times does not show up for visits, etc. It has been noted in more than one report from professionals that his comment he makes seems to be " coached " and that he cannot explain what he means by the comment. I, too, have to constantly remind myself that his developmental level is far below his age. Currently, Mack is in a residential treatment facility due to his agressive behaviors to us, teachers, and the police. I think that much of his anger is due to his confusion about life. We just got the diagnosis of Aspergers a month ago. Until that time we were being told that ADHD and Bipolar were the issues and therefore he was expected to learn behaviors that he was not capable of learning in the way that he was being taught. I kept fighting for the Asperger or PDD diagnosis because the other diagnosis just did not explain everything. Now I hope that we can undo the damage of not having a correct diagnosis. Most of all I hope that the time away will give me time to regroup, research strategies, and destress so that my irritability will be lower and my frustration threshold will be higher when he returns home. I also hope that I can deal with the guilt for the times that I have been so angry with him. I am a veteran special ed teacher and I knew that more was wrong and I knew that I needed to be patient, but I was trying to use the strategies I was told to use and bury my concerns and reservations about their effectiveness. All of this lead to alot of frustration and anger on my part. Donna ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Donna, You are awesome! Mack is really lucky to have you in his life. He may not act like it now, but I bet when he's older you'll see from him how much he appreciates your help. Your husband is also really lucky to have you too! Liz Houston Donna <donnalmoore@...> wrote: Mack, who's 14, likes stuffed animals, as well. I did manage to get him to stop carrying them in public. He is fixated on Pokemon and Kirby video games, too. He is also fixated on Bionicles. I have had more trouble getting him to stop carrying those in public. I have used a social story with him to try and help him understand that if NT kids from school see him with these toys in a store then they will probably make fun of him, then he may go into a rage, and the consequences will not be good. We have to review this everytime we go somewhere. It works when we are close to home, but he can not process that his peers from school might be at the mall 10 miles away or the stores near his grandmother's house because he has never seen them there. But we live in a rural area and this mall and stores near his grandmother's house are the closest for everyone in our community. Most of the time he gets very angry with me for bringing up the subject and not letting him carry what he wants. He sees me as the enemy and " picky " instead of as the person who is trying to protect him. I am his stepmom and he lives with his dad and I. It does not help that his adoptive mom (my husband's ex) tells him that it is okay to be " unique. " I agree that he should be allowed to be himself, but I also know that he cannot handle the teasing that may follow. His Momma lets him wear what he wants, carry what he wants, and hug all over her like he is still a preschooler even in public. She has no limits and boundaries for him which makes things even more difficult. If he does chores at her house, she tells him how wonderful he is no matter how poorly he does things. She never reminds him to use soap or shampoo or deoderant. So when he comes back home to us, we become the " picky " parents. I'm sure that he hears those words from his Momma, too. He is constantly telling us, therapists, psychiatrists that " Momma and I have a bond that is so strong that it cannot be broken and no one else has that kind of bond with us. " This is despite the fact that his Momma left him and his dad when Mack was 7 and moved to England to be with a man that she met on the internet. That lasted about a year and then she was back in the US and has been inconsistently in his life since. He never knows when she is going to call and many times does not show up for visits, etc. It has been noted in more than one report from professionals that his comment he makes seems to be " coached " and that he cannot explain what he means by the comment. I, too, have to constantly remind myself that his developmental level is far below his age. Currently, Mack is in a residential treatment facility due to his agressive behaviors to us, teachers, and the police. I think that much of his anger is due to his confusion about life. We just got the diagnosis of Aspergers a month ago. Until that time we were being told that ADHD and Bipolar were the issues and therefore he was expected to learn behaviors that he was not capable of learning in the way that he was being taught. I kept fighting for the Asperger or PDD diagnosis because the other diagnosis just did not explain everything. Now I hope that we can undo the damage of not having a correct diagnosis. Most of all I hope that the time away will give me time to regroup, research strategies, and destress so that my irritability will be lower and my frustration threshold will be higher when he returns home. I also hope that I can deal with the guilt for the times that I have been so angry with him. I am a veteran special ed teacher and I knew that more was wrong and I knew that I needed to be patient, but I was trying to use the strategies I was told to use and bury my concerns and reservations about their effectiveness. All of this lead to alot of frustration and anger on my part. Donna ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Just wanted to sent you a hug.... Donna <donnalmoore@...> wrote: Mack, who's 14, likes stuffed animals, as well. I did manage to get him to stop carrying them in public. He is fixated on Pokemon and Kirby video games, too. He is also fixated on Bionicles. I have had more trouble getting him to stop carrying those in public. I have used a social story with him to try and help him understand that if NT kids from school see him with these toys in a store then they will probably make fun of him, then he may go into a rage, and the consequences will not be good. We have to review this everytime we go somewhere. It works when we are close to home, but he can not process that his peers from school might be at the mall 10 miles away or the stores near his grandmother's house because he has never seen them there. But we live in a rural area and this mall and stores near his grandmother's house are the closest for everyone in our community. Most of the time he gets very angry with me for bringing up the subject and not letting him carry what he wants. He sees me as the enemy and " picky " instead of as the person who is trying to protect him. I am his stepmom and he lives with his dad and I. It does not help that his adoptive mom (my husband's ex) tells him that it is okay to be " unique. " I agree that he should be allowed to be himself, but I also know that he cannot handle the teasing that may follow. His Momma lets him wear what he wants, carry what he wants, and hug all over her like he is still a preschooler even in public. She has no limits and boundaries for him which makes things even more difficult. If he does chores at her house, she tells him how wonderful he is no matter how poorly he does things. She never reminds him to use soap or shampoo or deoderant. So when he comes back home to us, we become the " picky " parents. I'm sure that he hears those words from his Momma, too. He is constantly telling us, therapists, psychiatrists that " Momma and I have a bond that is so strong that it cannot be broken and no one else has that kind of bond with us. " This is despite the fact that his Momma left him and his dad when Mack was 7 and moved to England to be with a man that she met on the internet. That lasted about a year and then she was back in the US and has been inconsistently in his life since. He never knows when she is going to call and many times does not show up for visits, etc. It has been noted in more than one report from professionals that his comment he makes seems to be " coached " and that he cannot explain what he means by the comment. I, too, have to constantly remind myself that his developmental level is far below his age. Currently, Mack is in a residential treatment facility due to his agressive behaviors to us, teachers, and the police. I think that much of his anger is due to his confusion about life. We just got the diagnosis of Aspergers a month ago. Until that time we were being told that ADHD and Bipolar were the issues and therefore he was expected to learn behaviors that he was not capable of learning in the way that he was being taught. I kept fighting for the Asperger or PDD diagnosis because the other diagnosis just did not explain everything. Now I hope that we can undo the damage of not having a correct diagnosis. Most of all I hope that the time away will give me time to regroup, research strategies, and destress so that my irritability will be lower and my frustration threshold will be higher when he returns home. I also hope that I can deal with the guilt for the times that I have been so angry with him. I am a veteran special ed teacher and I knew that more was wrong and I knew that I needed to be patient, but I was trying to use the strategies I was told to use and bury my concerns and reservations about their effectiveness. All of this lead to alot of frustration and anger on my part. Donna ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 , Actually she is Mack's adoptive mother. He really does not have a strong relationship with her. It is a fantasy in both of their minds. She has had minimal contact with him in the last seven years. She is very manipulative and when she calls she cries and asks him if he is sad because she is sad not to be with him. He tries to tell her how angry he is that she left him when he was 7 years old and she just avoids taking responsibility and hugs and kisses on him instead. This has even happened with the social worker who was doing family therapy with all of us. She had sessions with Mack and his Momma. This was part of attempts on the part of my husband and me to include her more in Mack's life because she said that was what he wanted. She has no clue about Mack's disability and has no motivation to learn anything. She will not read any material and will not discuss issues with us. She denies that he has any problems. She says that he is brilliant and perfect - yeah that is why she said she had enough and had to get away from him. She has no clue about his medications and why he is taking them even though she has been going to the psychiatrist with us for the last 2 years. She blocked Mack going to residential treatment 6 months ago and did not change her mind until Mack was arrested again at school for assaulting a teacher and was faced with going into state custody because he was already on probation for the same charge last year and the judge had orderd as part of the probation that he remain on the waiting list for residential treatment. When we had to go back to court, the probation officer told her that she needed to be there to explain to the judge why she blocked what he ordered. She did not show up, but we had an email from the admission director that said she had refused to sign for him to be placed there and had just removed her refusal a week before we went to court. Now that Mack is in residential treatment her biggest concern is, in her own words: " who is mothering our son and who is giving him the number of hugs that I think he needs. " He is 14 - he needs to learn who and when not to hug. She taught him that hugs were equal to love and the way he hugs her and tries to hug me and other females is not appropriate. The psychiatrists who have evaluated Mack have all said that he has Reactive Attachment Disorder due to the pathological attachment that he has with her - in one psychiatrist's words - " instead of meeting his needs as an infant, toddler, and preschooler, she used him to meet her needs. " Mack is diagnosed with AS, but he also is very psychologically impaired because of her behavior and abandonment. We try very hard to include her and communicate with her, but if what she wants to hear is not being said then she just shuts down. As for chores - we do praise him for doing the chores. However, it is usually necessary to provide him with instruction on how to do the job correctly or to have him correct something that is not done correctly. We have given him visual directions for chores and still he had to redo things. He gets very angry and annoyed if he is told how to do something or corrected when he does it incorrectly. He often becomes aggressive. He earns privileges for completing chores correctly. But that does not motivate him to do them correctly or to accept direction or correction. I am sorry if I seem really negative, but I am exhausted dealing with Mack and his Momma. As one counselor we had in the past told me: I have to parent her as well as him. And then, given the chance, she will sabotage everything. I really feel that Mack would be better off if she was out of his life. I would never tell him any of this. As far as he knows, his Momma and I get along great. We took her with us on the 6 hour (one way) trip to the residential treatment facility because she has no working vehicle, no job, and no money. I am the one who convinces Mack to talk to her when she calls and he is having a meltdown because she has interrupted something he was doing and he does not understand why she doesn't know that she is interrupting him. I know that I have some issues where she is concerned and I need to get over them, but it is hard when I see the negative effect that she has on him. As a longtime f (30+years) friend of my husband said, " Mack has gotten the double whammy of nature and nurture. " Donna ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Liz, Thanks so much. I am lucky to have Mack, too. His innocence is refreshing and helps me to stay grounded. He is so accepting and loving, even though he can be difficult. Donna ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Rose, Thanks. Donna ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 BIG HUGS to you Donna. I'm sorry you are having to deal with Mack's mom on top of everything else. I can't imagine!She sounds like she could use some major help herself. Hang in there and please vent when you need to! Toni ( ) Re: Our story > > Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also > fixated on Kirby and > Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian > carries a > stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I > try to limit him > doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills > group just so his > therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a > teenage boy is still > playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms > of the fact that he's > emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as > he is > chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through > Roxanna's list of > independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going > sometimes, you know? > > Sue C. > > > > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > > everyone. > > > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > > hearing test, etc. > > > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > > wait for what? > > > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > > someone was finally willing to help!! > > > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > > gets hot. > > > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > > time. > > > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > > > Dave > > > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > > etc. > > > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > > exact same comfort item. > > > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: > 2/13/2007 10:01 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 (((Hugs))) to you Donna I can only begin to relate, we deal with my oldest 2 kids father..not my DH. It isn't easy. My thoughts are with you. - C. Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Thanks to everyone for the support. Sometimes I just need to vent. Donna Mom to 25 ADD, LD, Depression, possible Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder FASD), Jenna 22 NT, Sam 15 FASD, CAPD, SID, GAD, LD, and Mack 14 AS, ADHD, bipolar, ODD ( ) Re: Our story Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on Kirby and Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian carries a stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to limit him doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group just so his therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy is still playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the fact that he's emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's list of independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes, you know? Sue C. > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > everyone. > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > hearing test, etc. > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > wait for what? > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > someone was finally willing to help!! > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > gets hot. > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > time. > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > Dave > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > etc. > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > exact same comfort item. > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Donna, it's a pity our boys don't live near each other. Ian is desperate for a friend who shares his interests. Somebody who's only a year younger than he is, who loves Kirby, Pokemon, and Bionicles would be an instant hit. As experienced " Aspie Parents " I bet we both could handle having the boys together too. Plus, you sound like somebody *I* would like. Too bad it's such a big country. I'm sorry to read about your problems with Mack's biological mom. She sounds like she's *really* messing with the kid's head. Kudos to you for keeping the communication channels open between them, but it must be so frustrating for you to be dealing with a child who's developmentally incapable of seeing how he's being manipulated in ways that aren't in his best interest at all. Have you tried meds with Mack? Ian has problems with his temper too--although to a lesser degree than Mack. That may just be because we have Ian on Abilify, though, which helps him control himself better. I really think it's important for him to have that help in maximizing his ability to stay calm when he's stressed. Sue C. > > > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > > everyone. > > > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > > hearing test, etc. > > > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > > wait for what? > > > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > > someone was finally willing to help!! > > > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > > gets hot. > > > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > > time. > > > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > > > Dave > > > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > > etc. > > > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > > exact same comfort item. > > > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Sue, Sorry that I have not responded sooner. It seems like things are always busy. I wish that we lived near each other as well. It sounds like Ian and Mack would really hit it off with lots of the same interests. I think that you and I would hit it off, too. We'll just have to settle for being " cyber friends. " Even though this is a big country, the magic of the internet put us close together. You can email be privately anytime. I will try and be more prompt in responding. We visited Mack at the RTC this weekend. He is doing well and we continue to be pleased with the staff. The family therapist is very knowledgable about Aspergers and Bipolar, as well as Reactive Attachment Disorder which is one of Mack's diagnosis. He was adopted by my husband and his ex-wife at birth, but research is now showing that RAD can develop due to experiences of the fetus in utero. If the birthmother did not want the child, poor prenatal health, substance abuse, etc. It is obvious that we will need to work on all of the issues in tandem and it will probably be a long process. We just pray that one day Mack will be back home and a functioning member of our familly. In the meantime, as , our family therapist says, " We are exhausted and need to take this time to recharge our batteries. " Of course, we still have Sam (15 - FASD, LD, CAPD, SID, mood disorder and generalized anxiety disorder) and (25 - ADD, LD, mood disorder) still at home. Sam is struggling in high school and we plan to go into the Pre-GED/Skills Option diploma beginning next year. He has some Asperger tendencies as well. We plan to have him evaluated as well. It will probably be a struggle because he is the type kid that Atwood describes as denying that he has any problems. He constantly puts up bravado to cover up. But he has very few fclose friends and also has his obsession with Yu-Gi-Oh and internet chatting. is having hernia surgery on Thursday. Once he is recuperated, we hope that he will be able to find a job and keep it. He has difficultly with multi-tasking and dealing with things when his way is not the way things are to be done. He is beginning to realize that he has some issues and seems more ready to accept some assistance. Donna donnalmoore@... ( ) Re: Our story Donna, it's a pity our boys don't live near each other. Ian is desperate for a friend who shares his interests. Somebody who's only a year younger than he is, who loves Kirby, Pokemon, and Bionicles would be an instant hit. As experienced " Aspie Parents " I bet we both could handle having the boys together too. Plus, you sound like somebody *I* would like. Too bad it's such a big country. I'm sorry to read about your problems with Mack's biological mom. She sounds like she's *really* messing with the kid's head. Kudos to you for keeping the communication channels open between them, but it must be so frustrating for you to be dealing with a child who's developmentally incapable of seeing how he's being manipulated in ways that aren't in his best interest at all. Have you tried meds with Mack? Ian has problems with his temper too--although to a lesser degree than Mack. That may just be because we have Ian on Abilify, though, which helps him control himself better. I really think it's important for him to have that help in maximizing his ability to stay calm when he's stressed. Sue C. > > > > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update > > everyone. > > > > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something > > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a > > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't. > > > > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told > > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and > > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of > > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a > > hearing test, etc. > > > > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was > > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again, > > wait for what? > > > > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated > > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time, > > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well. > > > > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through > > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that > > someone was finally willing to help!! > > > > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums, > > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for > > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago. > > > > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know > > what we are dealing with and can help her. > > > > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our > > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs > > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our > > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my > > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on > > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too > > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire > > gets hot. > > > > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has > > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her > > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask > > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with > > time. > > > > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the > > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the > > system. If you can't help your child, then who will? > > > > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now. > > > > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just > > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love. > > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient. > > > > For us, the time-out chair works great. > > > > Take care everyone and thank you for listening. > > > > Dave > > > > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items, > > etc. > > > > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things > > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on > > comfort items and carry small items with them. > > > > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the > > exact same comfort item. > > > > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my > > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would > > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack > > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen. > > > > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 10:01 PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 The banana posts caused someone to email me off list to ask me what the deal is with my son and bananas because her child craves them. I responded with our story to keep it in context. I thought it was worth posting. With that said, a few caveats: 1) I don't know anything for sure but our history. 2) I am not anti-anything, even chelation and do not want to offend any chelating parents. This is my decision at this time. My children are young. With the benefit of age and more knowledge of their deal and better options, reconsiderations may be made. 3) I am not a doctor and if I had this to do over again I would have remortgaged the house and had a doctor live with us during what was no doubt an accidental detox. I will post a second post outlining 's issues from the beginning. Here is my response to the banana inquiry: I am trying to know where to start. I'll send you a description of my son that I gave to someone else. Soon I will be posting a " year in review of where he is and was as we started EI a year ago. " I will do genetic testing but I am pretty sure we are OK there. Our problem is simpler. I have been exposed long term to fluoridated water and had a long term unaddressed milk allergy. My toxic womb and the worst of this water drank with son inutero and beyond by him has gone a long way in putting him where he is. Add vaccines, etc. and this kid was a ticking timebomb. Fluoride is a mutagenic thing so maybe we will find something but I doubt it. It along with celiac is so common that 1) the genetic markers do not catch it or 2) they need more than one to consider it significant. Here is how I think it all worked in my son: Too much fluoride in body The calcium in milk is not easily absorbed and he was a big consumer. Calcium pulls out fluoride The milk was stirring up the fluoride causing so much poop he absorbed no nutrients, lit is esophagus on fire and sent stomach acids up to his ears causing hearing to cut in and out despite perfect testing. Off the milk his eyebrows lifted and so much resolved. Off that water same thing. We are off gluten as it is a metal trapper. Those effects are more subtle. We are filtering all mineral out of srinking water and we have filtered rust, lead, sediment and chlorine out of showering water. We are sticking to one childrens 369 a good multi and a good calcium pill and that is it. We may need to supplement zinc but I need lab confirmation. My son got ear tubes despite no infections. Shortly after he lost words and I began the dietary stuff. I feared I was not getting enough calcium in him and gave him RDA one day and 5-7 pounds of grey sludge came out in poop, buckets of brown pee, shiners moved down his face. He smiled the entire time and never had so much as a fever...the only reason I did not run to the ER. I believe that was the anesthesia and evidence of liver problems. After that his stiff legs miraculously left and the dark roof of his mouth was pink. The banana cravings were always there, meaning he wanted one or two per day. As the diet began he wanted as many as he could find. We could not leave them unattended. I have heard several things that may apply. Bananas are tasty and filling. A kid who no longer has metal trapped inside him from fluoride, gluten, and casein no doubt is hungry. Potassium might be craved. He may be feeding yeast (not sure about that). He needs inulin...that one seems to be the case now. I give him bananas but not quite the amount he wants because I did that one day and it clearly overloaded him. We eat GFCF, everything from scratch. My kids are toddlers so they mainly eat soinach ommlettes, GFCF pancakes (Bob's Red Mill) with fruits and veggies snuck in. I peel everything to make it more easily digestible. If putting something bitter in there (tomato or spinach) I usuall add a banana to hide the taste. We don't do nuts yet though I did a trial of adding hazlenut flour and so far so good. We also eat meatloaf with various fruits and veggies stuck in. My son is actually less of a picky eater than his sister who is less brain impaired though I fear more bodily impaired. This is where we are right now. The doctors were not listening because my kids were growing. My son did stop though but not enough to convince anyone but me we needed a change. The doc said to feed him more. That was not possible...he ate 24/7 and it was all milk and gluten. Since switching the diet both kids gained weight. My son ganed 4.5 pounds. Both kids jumped in height. My daughter grew 2 inches in two weeks. We are now forced to buy new bike helets as their heads grew. They grew hair and nails as well. Their feet need to grow more and I fear that their lymph nodes are not clearing as well down there but some of this is a waiting game. I am getting the initial labs for DAN stuff and will use a DAN who takes insurance to monitor bloodwork over time as I use this approach. Chelation has been done for 50 years but not to our kids. It has its own problems and I have seen too many kids with chelators left in etc. That can't be good. My kids are not that affected and I respect everyone's decisions but this is mine. I will head to NACD and pursue home therapy. As for the GERD medication, we never did that because we did not see it when it was there. He had a rspy voice but never threw up...exactly why the milk allergy was not obvious. The fact that neither kid would drink water plain should have been a clue. MDautie (apparently a doctor) did a recent posts on the cherab site discussing gut stuff and GERD meds among other things. There are two posts, one is more detailed. Check them out as they may be helpful. I am not a doc, just a mom and highly siggest you do this with medical oversight. I essentially accidentally detoxed my kids and while it was helpful it was not my intent and I fear too much too soon could be harmful. I will send a second email describing my son's issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Your son's story sounds so much like our story and lots of stories on this board. My son Landon started fevering when he was baby. All the same symptoms as your son. Every other Friday he would start with a high fever, swollen lympnodes, no appetite, this would last 3-4 days. As he got older and could communicate he would complain of leg pain (Landon is now 5). Our peds. kept telling us it was viruses and I reluctantly accepted it until I finally broke when we had to leave Disneyland because of yet another episode. It took us until Landon was 3 to get a diagnosis of . We are on our 3rd pediatrician who finally agreeded it was not normal to have a virus every other Friday. We were referred to a hematology group who tested him for everything under the sun. (just a side note they tested Landon during an episode they wanted to test him during a fever) We did the prednisone for a year and found the fevers were coming much closer together, every 4-7 days, way too much. The prednisone did take the fever and other symptoms away just caused the fevers to come closer together. I found this group last Feb. during the middle of the night while watching my son burn up. I read success stories of having the tonsils and adneoids removed. Landon had a T & A in Sept. and has been fever free since. We just celebrated 12 weeks of no fevers. This group is an absolute God sent and has so much information.  Good luck to you and keeping fighting to get answers, eventually someone will listen. Many doctors have not heard of so it is uphill battle but being informed will help get you to the top. Take Care, Jackie mom to Landon fevering since a baby, T & A in Sept and fever free so far                       Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Your son's story sounds so much like our story and lots of stories on this board. My son Landon started fevering when he was baby. All the same symptoms as your son. Every other Friday he would start with a high fever, swollen lympnodes, no appetite, this would last 3-4 days. As he got older and could communicate he would complain of leg pain (Landon is now 5). Our peds. kept telling us it was viruses and I reluctantly accepted it until I finally broke when we had to leave Disneyland because of yet another episode. It took us until Landon was 3 to get a diagnosis of . We are on our 3rd pediatrician who finally agreeded it was not normal to have a virus every other Friday. We were referred to a hematology group who tested him for everything under the sun. (just a side note they tested Landon during an episode they wanted to test him during a fever) We did the prednisone for a year and found the fevers were coming much closer together, every 4-7 days, way too much. The prednisone did take the fever and other symptoms away just caused the fevers to come closer together. I found this group last Feb. during the middle of the night while watching my son burn up. I read success stories of having the tonsils and adneoids removed. Landon had a T & A in Sept. and has been fever free since. We just celebrated 12 weeks of no fevers. This group is an absolute God sent and has so much information.  Good luck to you and keeping fighting to get answers, eventually someone will listen. Many doctors have not heard of so it is uphill battle but being informed will help get you to the top. Take Care, Jackie mom to Landon fevering since a baby, T & A in Sept and fever free so far                       Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Your son's story sounds so much like our story and lots of stories on this board. My son Landon started fevering when he was baby. All the same symptoms as your son. Every other Friday he would start with a high fever, swollen lympnodes, no appetite, this would last 3-4 days. As he got older and could communicate he would complain of leg pain (Landon is now 5). Our peds. kept telling us it was viruses and I reluctantly accepted it until I finally broke when we had to leave Disneyland because of yet another episode. It took us until Landon was 3 to get a diagnosis of . We are on our 3rd pediatrician who finally agreeded it was not normal to have a virus every other Friday. We were referred to a hematology group who tested him for everything under the sun. (just a side note they tested Landon during an episode they wanted to test him during a fever) We did the prednisone for a year and found the fevers were coming much closer together, every 4-7 days, way too much. The prednisone did take the fever and other symptoms away just caused the fevers to come closer together. I found this group last Feb. during the middle of the night while watching my son burn up. I read success stories of having the tonsils and adneoids removed. Landon had a T & A in Sept. and has been fever free since. We just celebrated 12 weeks of no fevers. This group is an absolute God sent and has so much information.  Good luck to you and keeping fighting to get answers, eventually someone will listen. Many doctors have not heard of so it is uphill battle but being informed will help get you to the top. Take Care, Jackie mom to Landon fevering since a baby, T & A in Sept and fever free so far                       Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Welcome! Ohhhh if you only knew how many times I've heard that same crapola from numerous doctors and family members... This is a REAL illness....and there is NOBODY....no doc....no nurse anybody that knows our children better than we do..period. Our children are the lucky ones in a way b/c we have pushed to find answers and didn't just take the ole " its a virus " routine. Every single solid month...at the same time?? Sigh. My pediatrician still argues with me over it and I made him refer me to an infectious disease dr at childrens hospital pittsburgh. He wasn't happy about it..but did it to shut me up I think. Anyway, I pretty much sat and cried in her office....she believed me and all the symptoms and my fever chart and everything I was saying...her low weight...she's 3 and only 26 lbs. the pains in her knees.....belly aches....it was such a relief to find someone that actually believed me and I didn't have to be on the defensive. We are now in the process of trying different meds...to see what works....if nothing works and she's headed into school...I will push for the T & A at that time. Take a deep breath, everyone here understands and has sooooo much experience. When I'm up around the clock for 3 days straight rotating tylenol and motrin it makes me feel so much better that I am not alone or crazy. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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