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Your daughter is blessed to have you on her side because without

advocacy these children get pushed aside into the " they are normal

just on the low end, or.etc. My daughter was diagnosed at 13. I knew

she was different because at the park she stayed alone and preferred

to pick up rocks and walk on the grass than jump up to the slide. I

was in the medical field too and I thought I should have known but

really many professionals still don't have a clue about what our kids

experience. Now that she has a diagnosis family give her a little

more " tolerance " for being different but teachers don't believe she's

being affected that severely, because after all she is " gifted " .

Sadly, this gift is actually what's gotten in the way of her getting

help sooner. Keep encouraging your little girl. I still tell my

daughter " You're stronger than you think " .

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and

told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was

evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that

time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her

for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't

ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come

with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and

just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort

items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum

would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a

pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Hi

My dd is also 3.5 yo and dx AS this past May!

Your history sounds similar.

>>>clip>>>

oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

etc.

Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

comfort items and carry small items with them.

>>>>

I can totally relate. My ds had comfort items and we ran into the problem of

not being able to replace them when they were worn out. So with a as soon

as I saw a comfort item that I knew was here to stay (her bear blanket...little

bear head on a little blanket) I found 2 more and started rotating them, for

washing and such and to make sure they wear evenly :-)

She then added a monkey (for a while her nick name was chunky monkey...not

anymore) it is a TY brand monkey so I had to order 2 more " collector " ones off

e-bay....at a hefty price but well worth it.

I don't think she knows there are 3 sets. But we cant do or go any where

without them. She holds bear right up by her lips and kindof suckles with her

mouth shut...oh and she has to " fix " bears ears just " so " ...so that it hits her

nose right...oh well it works and just last week she verbalized that " bear helps

me when I am scared or hurt or feel bad " It was an awesome moment!

a does like to have small items in her hands, she would always hold 2-3

items (balls ect) in her hands while crawling.

Never knew the comfort thing...fixating on the item was an AS

thing...interesting :-)

Oh yeah...2 months before she was DX AS the CDSA (state EI) spent an hour

telling us why she wasn't AS...but said they would DX OCD...Whatever...we went

to a developmental Pediatrician and he DX AS! But I hear ya on the OCD stuff!

- C.

Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) Our story

I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

everyone.

When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

hearing test, etc.

At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

wait for what?

I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

someone was finally willing to help!!

As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

what we are dealing with and can help her.

I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

gets hot.

So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

time.

I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

For us, the time-out chair works great.

Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

Dave

oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

etc.

Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

comfort items and carry small items with them.

To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

exact same comfort item.

There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

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Yes , my son was like your daughter in many ways.

He is now 13 yrs old. But, when he was 1 yrs old he loved this stuffed bear and

wouldn't sleep or eat or anything without it. We thought this was cute and

normal. But he didn't let it go even at age 5, he still was very insecure

without the bear, and we were trying to get him to like other things. He

wouldn't play with cars....he liked to play with beads and with strings of beads

[like for a christmas tree].

He now is older but has a huge collection of stuffed animals.....and they

can't be just ANY stuffed animal.....it has to have a look about the eyes that

only he can really see, and he makes high-squeeky noises when he pretends that

the animals are talking. It's very complicated to explain, but he don't really

love on them and all.....he makes these very funny and crazy cartoons out of

them.....kinda like normal cartoons and he's the narator and the producer and

the audience too, [and will laugh at his own cartoons]. He can get his little

brother who is 9 yrs old and [normal]to play this game with him alot as well.

I thank God for his little brother.....he forces my aspie out of his own

little world and into ours. There is nothing like a little brother with a

football saying 'heads up'! forcing him to catch a ball....when he isn't

interested in it at all. Also, a little brother who comes up and tackles you and

tries to pin you and can almost do so.......he is giving life in ways he don't

even know to a big brother who is easily drawn into his own world. He is not

only sometimes joining his big brother into that strange little world.....but

forcing him to join into his own as well, and will get him to play. Of course

sometimes they fight, but they are brothers and brothers do that. I did not

plan my second child, but

I thank God daily that he gave him to us, God knows what He is doing.

( ) Our story

I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

everyone.

When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

hearing test, etc.

At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

wait for what?

I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

someone was finally willing to help!!

As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

what we are dealing with and can help her.

I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

gets hot.

So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

time.

I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

For us, the time-out chair works great.

Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

Dave

oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

etc.

Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

comfort items and carry small items with them.

To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

exact same comfort item.

There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

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Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to

limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group

just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the

fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes,

you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Hi, ,

I can identify with so much of your message. My

daughter, Gracie is 3.6 years old and is being

evaluated over this month and part of next for ASD. So

far, the doc has seen anxiety, some OCD, and some

autistic traits. She will meet with three other

professionals before she receives a dx, if any.

Yes, family didn't want to hear that something was

different even though they saw her legendary tantrums

and very strange behavior with not wanting to put on

swimsuits and pitching huge tantrums over them when we

all vacationed together last summer despite liking to

swim! (boy, I cried a lot on that vacation!!). Our

daughter also used to carry around very strange

objects but has pretty much quit that... she still

does not play with toys normally though. She colors

mostly or draws. And her speech is mixed up since age

2.5... reversing pronouns, not able to carry on a

conversation like your daughter, etc. DD also has

extreme tantrums over clothing, so for now, we are

letting her wear lots of dresses and tights since she

hates socks, etc... the fights are just so draining.

Best with everything... sounds like your daughter is

progressing and getting some help. I look forward to

getting those things in the next couple months.

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My daughter is 17 (18) next month and is fixated on Yu-Gi-Oh the tv show and

anything to do with that Anime Cartoon.

Carolyn

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to

limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group

just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the

fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes,

you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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& - I hear ya'!

DO NOT let them know that there is more then 1 monkey. I speak from

personal experience. (AS) and (ADD) (twins - 3-1/2)

both had the same stuffed pig in their NICU incubators from day 1.

eventually comandeered both of those, then I wised up and

bought 2 more " collectible " stuffed pigs, until I had a set of 4

that could be swapped. They found them all. Then as a part of

his heavy work therapy, to ease transitions, he started carrying a

plastic basket, all 4 pigs went into the basket. The basket went

everywhere. Even to bed (to ease getting up the stairs). Stuff

went into the basket and seemed to never get out. was soon

carrying around armloads of stuff, including all 4 pigs. And he had

to have all 4. He slept with them in a litter under his belly.

Then we lost 1. You have no idea how we tore our world apart to

find that pig. I also went back to the source and tried to no avail

to get a few more. Wouldn't you know that there were no more in the

continental US available? 6 weeks later it showed up on the lecturn

at church, because the pastor knew he had seen it somewhere and knew

it was important, but couldn't remember who needed it. It was the

toughest 6 weeks of our life. I have since hidden 2 away and we

seem to be down to sleeping with just the 2 pigs, and 2 wolves

(mommy & daddy barky) and a small sheepdog (baby barky). (and a

small mini cooper, a flash light and a space shuttle) (and a

blanket, plastic hanger, and small curious george doll) (I am not

kidding - don't laugh, you all know exactly what I am talking about!)

So moral of the story - wise to have multiple transitional objects,

but unwise to make it known.

Gwen

>

> Hi

> My dd is also 3.5 yo and dx AS this past May!

>

> Your history sounds similar.

>

> >>>clip>>>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort

items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

> >>>>

>

> I can totally relate. My ds had comfort items and we ran into the

problem of not being able to replace them when they were worn out.

So with a as soon as I saw a comfort item that I knew was here

to stay (her bear blanket...little bear head on a little blanket) I

found 2 more and started rotating them, for washing and such and to

make sure they wear evenly :-)

>

> She then added a monkey (for a while her nick name was chunky

monkey...not anymore) it is a TY brand monkey so I had to order 2

more " collector " ones off e-bay....at a hefty price but well worth

it.

>

> I don't think she knows there are 3 sets. But we cant do or go

any where without them. She holds bear right up by her lips and

kindof suckles with her mouth shut...oh and she has to " fix " bears

ears just " so " ...so that it hits her nose right...oh well it works

and just last week she verbalized that " bear helps me when I am

scared or hurt or feel bad " It was an awesome moment!

>

> a does like to have small items in her hands, she would always

hold 2-3 items (balls ect) in her hands while crawling.

>

> Never knew the comfort thing...fixating on the item was an AS

thing...interesting :-)

>

> Oh yeah...2 months before she was DX AS the CDSA (state EI) spent

an hour telling us why she wasn't AS...but said they would DX

OCD...Whatever...we went to a developmental Pediatrician and he DX

AS! But I hear ya on the OCD stuff!

>

> - C.

> Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

>

>

> ( ) Our story

>

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that

something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and

told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old

and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years

of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get

a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech

was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait.

Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was

evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that

time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy

through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior,

tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her

for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just

needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in

our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on

my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count

on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the

fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make

her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't

ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come

with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express

the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and

just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of

love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort

items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the

things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate

on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at

my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum

would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a

pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm really impressed that you wouldn't give up until you found what was wrong

with your daughter. Way to go! As far as our so called friends & a few of the

relatives that thought our Grandson were just bad .. they took off too. Hey who

needs them. We have had custody of our Grandson, for the past 10yr he is

now 14yrs old. If he was living with his mom or dad God knows were he'd be now.

He was Dx'd around 8- 9 yrs old with Asperger/Bipolar/OCD/Chronic Motor Tic

Disorder & they thought he was just bad.

Take care,Betty

<droehl1234@...> wrote:

I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

everyone.

When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

hearing test, etc.

At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

wait for what?

I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

someone was finally willing to help!!

As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

what we are dealing with and can help her.

I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

gets hot.

So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

time.

I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

For us, the time-out chair works great.

Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

Dave

oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

etc.

Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

comfort items and carry small items with them.

To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

exact same comfort item.

There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

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Wow...I will be more careful, so she doesn't find out! Besides Bear and Mi-Mi

(the monkey) she has Princess Bear, Reindeer, Snowman, Eddie the Sea Turtle and

Big Dora that sleep in bed with her! Just a couple weeks ago we started the new

rule that only 2 animals (she calls them her friends) can come out of her room

with her. So far the rule is working :-)

- C.

Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) Our story

>

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that

something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and

told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old

and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years

of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get

a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech

was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait.

Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was

evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that

time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy

through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior,

tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her

for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just

needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in

our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on

my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count

on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the

fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make

her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't

ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come

with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express

the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and

just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of

love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort

items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the

things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate

on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at

my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum

would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a

pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mack, who's 14, likes stuffed animals, as well. I did manage to get him to stop

carrying them in public. He is fixated on Pokemon and Kirby video games, too.

He is also fixated on Bionicles. I have had more trouble getting him to stop

carrying those in public. I have used a social story with him to try and help

him understand that if NT kids from school see him with these toys in a store

then they will probably make fun of him, then he may go into a rage, and the

consequences will not be good. We have to review this everytime we go

somewhere. It works when we are close to home, but he can not process that his

peers from school might be at the mall 10 miles away or the stores near his

grandmother's house because he has never seen them there. But we live in a

rural area and this mall and stores near his grandmother's house are the closest

for everyone in our community. Most of the time he gets very angry with me for

bringing up the subject and not letting him carry what he wants. He sees me as

the enemy and " picky " instead of as the person who is trying to protect him. I

am his stepmom and he lives with his dad and I. It does not help that his

adoptive mom (my husband's ex) tells him that it is okay to be " unique. " I

agree that he should be allowed to be himself, but I also know that he cannot

handle the teasing that may follow. His Momma lets him wear what he wants,

carry what he wants, and hug all over her like he is still a preschooler even in

public. She has no limits and boundaries for him which makes things even more

difficult. If he does chores at her house, she tells him how wonderful he is no

matter how poorly he does things. She never reminds him to use soap or shampoo

or deoderant. So when he comes back home to us, we become the " picky " parents.

I'm sure that he hears those words from his Momma, too. He is constantly

telling us, therapists, psychiatrists that " Momma and I have a bond that is so

strong that it cannot be broken and no one else has that kind of bond with us. "

This is despite the fact that his Momma left him and his dad when Mack was 7 and

moved to England to be with a man that she met on the internet. That lasted

about a year and then she was back in the US and has been inconsistently in his

life since. He never knows when she is going to call and many times does not

show up for visits, etc. It has been noted in more than one report from

professionals that his comment he makes seems to be " coached " and that he cannot

explain what he means by the comment.

I, too, have to constantly remind myself that his developmental level is far

below his age. Currently, Mack is in a residential treatment facility due to

his agressive behaviors to us, teachers, and the police. I think that much of

his anger is due to his confusion about life. We just got the diagnosis of

Aspergers a month ago. Until that time we were being told that ADHD and Bipolar

were the issues and therefore he was expected to learn behaviors that he was not

capable of learning in the way that he was being taught. I kept fighting for

the Asperger or PDD diagnosis because the other diagnosis just did not explain

everything. Now I hope that we can undo the damage of not having a correct

diagnosis. Most of all I hope that the time away will give me time to regroup,

research strategies, and destress so that my irritability will be lower and my

frustration threshold will be higher when he returns home. I also hope that I

can deal with the guilt for the times that I have been so angry with him. I am

a veteran special ed teacher and I knew that more was wrong and I knew that I

needed to be patient, but I was trying to use the strategies I was told to use

and bury my concerns and reservations about their effectiveness. All of this

lead to alot of frustration and anger on my part.

Donna

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try

to limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

group just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of

the fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

sometimes, you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Donna,

You are awesome! Mack is really lucky to have you in his life. He may not

act like it now, but I bet when he's older you'll see from him how much he

appreciates your help. Your husband is also really lucky to have you too!

Liz

Houston

Donna <donnalmoore@...> wrote:

Mack, who's 14, likes stuffed animals, as well. I did manage to get

him to stop carrying them in public. He is fixated on Pokemon and Kirby video

games, too. He is also fixated on Bionicles. I have had more trouble getting him

to stop carrying those in public. I have used a social story with him to try and

help him understand that if NT kids from school see him with these toys in a

store then they will probably make fun of him, then he may go into a rage, and

the consequences will not be good. We have to review this everytime we go

somewhere. It works when we are close to home, but he can not process that his

peers from school might be at the mall 10 miles away or the stores near his

grandmother's house because he has never seen them there. But we live in a rural

area and this mall and stores near his grandmother's house are the closest for

everyone in our community. Most of the time he gets very angry with me for

bringing up the subject and not letting him carry

what he wants. He sees me as the enemy and " picky " instead of as the person who

is trying to protect him. I am his stepmom and he lives with his dad and I. It

does not help that his adoptive mom (my husband's ex) tells him that it is okay

to be " unique. " I agree that he should be allowed to be himself, but I also know

that he cannot handle the teasing that may follow. His Momma lets him wear what

he wants, carry what he wants, and hug all over her like he is still a

preschooler even in public. She has no limits and boundaries for him which makes

things even more difficult. If he does chores at her house, she tells him how

wonderful he is no matter how poorly he does things. She never reminds him to

use soap or shampoo or deoderant. So when he comes back home to us, we become

the " picky " parents. I'm sure that he hears those words from his Momma, too. He

is constantly telling us, therapists, psychiatrists that " Momma and I have a

bond that is so strong that it cannot be

broken and no one else has that kind of bond with us. " This is despite the fact

that his Momma left him and his dad when Mack was 7 and moved to England to be

with a man that she met on the internet. That lasted about a year and then she

was back in the US and has been inconsistently in his life since. He never knows

when she is going to call and many times does not show up for visits, etc. It

has been noted in more than one report from professionals that his comment he

makes seems to be " coached " and that he cannot explain what he means by the

comment.

I, too, have to constantly remind myself that his developmental level is far

below his age. Currently, Mack is in a residential treatment facility due to his

agressive behaviors to us, teachers, and the police. I think that much of his

anger is due to his confusion about life. We just got the diagnosis of Aspergers

a month ago. Until that time we were being told that ADHD and Bipolar were the

issues and therefore he was expected to learn behaviors that he was not capable

of learning in the way that he was being taught. I kept fighting for the

Asperger or PDD diagnosis because the other diagnosis just did not explain

everything. Now I hope that we can undo the damage of not having a correct

diagnosis. Most of all I hope that the time away will give me time to regroup,

research strategies, and destress so that my irritability will be lower and my

frustration threshold will be higher when he returns home. I also hope that I

can deal with the guilt for the times that I have

been so angry with him. I am a veteran special ed teacher and I knew that more

was wrong and I knew that I needed to be patient, but I was trying to use the

strategies I was told to use and bury my concerns and reservations about their

effectiveness. All of this lead to alot of frustration and anger on my part.

Donna

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on

Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to

limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group

just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy

is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the

fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes,

you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Just wanted to sent you a hug....

Donna <donnalmoore@...> wrote: Mack, who's 14, likes stuffed

animals, as well. I did manage to get him to stop carrying them in public. He is

fixated on Pokemon and Kirby video games, too. He is also fixated on Bionicles.

I have had more trouble getting him to stop carrying those in public. I have

used a social story with him to try and help him understand that if NT kids from

school see him with these toys in a store then they will probably make fun of

him, then he may go into a rage, and the consequences will not be good. We have

to review this everytime we go somewhere. It works when we are close to home,

but he can not process that his peers from school might be at the mall 10 miles

away or the stores near his grandmother's house because he has never seen them

there. But we live in a rural area and this mall and stores near his

grandmother's house are the closest for everyone in our community. Most of the

time he gets very angry with me for bringing

up the subject and not letting him carry what he wants. He sees me as the enemy

and " picky " instead of as the person who is trying to protect him. I am his

stepmom and he lives with his dad and I. It does not help that his adoptive mom

(my husband's ex) tells him that it is okay to be " unique. " I agree that he

should be allowed to be himself, but I also know that he cannot handle the

teasing that may follow. His Momma lets him wear what he wants, carry what he

wants, and hug all over her like he is still a preschooler even in public. She

has no limits and boundaries for him which makes things even more difficult. If

he does chores at her house, she tells him how wonderful he is no matter how

poorly he does things. She never reminds him to use soap or shampoo or

deoderant. So when he comes back home to us, we become the " picky " parents. I'm

sure that he hears those words from his Momma, too. He is constantly telling us,

therapists, psychiatrists that " Momma and I have a

bond that is so strong that it cannot be broken and no one else has that kind

of bond with us. " This is despite the fact that his Momma left him and his dad

when Mack was 7 and moved to England to be with a man that she met on the

internet. That lasted about a year and then she was back in the US and has been

inconsistently in his life since. He never knows when she is going to call and

many times does not show up for visits, etc. It has been noted in more than one

report from professionals that his comment he makes seems to be " coached " and

that he cannot explain what he means by the comment.

I, too, have to constantly remind myself that his developmental level is far

below his age. Currently, Mack is in a residential treatment facility due to his

agressive behaviors to us, teachers, and the police. I think that much of his

anger is due to his confusion about life. We just got the diagnosis of Aspergers

a month ago. Until that time we were being told that ADHD and Bipolar were the

issues and therefore he was expected to learn behaviors that he was not capable

of learning in the way that he was being taught. I kept fighting for the

Asperger or PDD diagnosis because the other diagnosis just did not explain

everything. Now I hope that we can undo the damage of not having a correct

diagnosis. Most of all I hope that the time away will give me time to regroup,

research strategies, and destress so that my irritability will be lower and my

frustration threshold will be higher when he returns home. I also hope that I

can deal with the guilt for the times that I have

been so angry with him. I am a veteran special ed teacher and I knew that more

was wrong and I knew that I needed to be patient, but I was trying to use the

strategies I was told to use and bury my concerns and reservations about their

effectiveness. All of this lead to alot of frustration and anger on my part.

Donna

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated on

Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try to

limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills group

just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage boy

is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of the

fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going sometimes,

you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Actually she is Mack's adoptive mother. He really does not have a strong

relationship with her. It is a fantasy in both of their minds. She has had

minimal contact with him in the last seven years. She is very manipulative and

when she calls she cries and asks him if he is sad because she is sad not to be

with him. He tries to tell her how angry he is that she left him when he was 7

years old and she just avoids taking responsibility and hugs and kisses on him

instead. This has even happened with the social worker who was doing family

therapy with all of us. She had sessions with Mack and his Momma. This was

part of attempts on the part of my husband and me to include her more in Mack's

life because she said that was what he wanted. She has no clue about Mack's

disability and has no motivation to learn anything. She will not read any

material and will not discuss issues with us. She denies that he has any

problems. She says that he is brilliant and perfect - yeah that is why she said

she had enough and had to get away from him. She has no clue about his

medications and why he is taking them even though she has been going to the

psychiatrist with us for the last 2 years. She blocked Mack going to

residential treatment 6 months ago and did not change her mind until Mack was

arrested again at school for assaulting a teacher and was faced with going into

state custody because he was already on probation for the same charge last year

and the judge had orderd as part of the probation that he remain on the waiting

list for residential treatment. When we had to go back to court, the probation

officer told her that she needed to be there to explain to the judge why she

blocked what he ordered. She did not show up, but we had an email from the

admission director that said she had refused to sign for him to be placed there

and had just removed her refusal a week before we went to court. Now that Mack

is in residential treatment her biggest concern is, in her own words: " who is

mothering our son and who is giving him the number of hugs that I think he

needs. " He is 14 - he needs to learn who and when not to hug. She taught him

that hugs were equal to love and the way he hugs her and tries to hug me and

other females is not appropriate. The psychiatrists who have evaluated Mack

have all said that he has Reactive Attachment Disorder due to the pathological

attachment that he has with her - in one psychiatrist's words - " instead of

meeting his needs as an infant, toddler, and preschooler, she used him to meet

her needs. " Mack is diagnosed with AS, but he also is very psychologically

impaired because of her behavior and abandonment. We try very hard to include

her and communicate with her, but if what she wants to hear is not being said

then she just shuts down.

As for chores - we do praise him for doing the chores. However, it is usually

necessary to provide him with instruction on how to do the job correctly or to

have him correct something that is not done correctly. We have given him visual

directions for chores and still he had to redo things. He gets very angry and

annoyed if he is told how to do something or corrected when he does it

incorrectly. He often becomes aggressive. He earns privileges for completing

chores correctly. But that does not motivate him to do them correctly or to

accept direction or correction.

I am sorry if I seem really negative, but I am exhausted dealing with Mack and

his Momma. As one counselor we had in the past told me: I have to parent her

as well as him. And then, given the chance, she will sabotage everything. I

really feel that Mack would be better off if she was out of his life. I would

never tell him any of this. As far as he knows, his Momma and I get along

great. We took her with us on the 6 hour (one way) trip to the residential

treatment facility because she has no working vehicle, no job, and no money. I

am the one who convinces Mack to talk to her when she calls and he is having a

meltdown because she has interrupted something he was doing and he does not

understand why she doesn't know that she is interrupting him.

I know that I have some issues where she is concerned and I need to get over

them, but it is hard when I see the negative effect that she has on him. As a

longtime f (30+years) friend of my husband said, " Mack has gotten the double

whammy of nature and nurture. "

Donna

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try

to limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

group just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of

the fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

sometimes, you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Liz,

Thanks so much. I am lucky to have Mack, too. His innocence is refreshing and

helps me to stay grounded. He is so accepting and loving, even though he can be

difficult.

Donna

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try

to limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

group just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of

the fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

sometimes, you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Rose,

Thanks.

Donna

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try

to limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

group just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of

the fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

sometimes, you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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BIG HUGS to you Donna. I'm sorry you are having to deal with Mack's mom on

top of everything else. I can't imagine!She sounds like she could use some

major help herself. Hang in there and please vent when you need to! Toni

( ) Re: Our story

>

> Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also

> fixated on Kirby and

> Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

> carries a

> stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I

> try to limit him

> doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

> group just so his

> therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a

> teenage boy is still

> playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms

> of the fact that he's

> emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as

> he is

> chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through

> Roxanna's list of

> independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

> sometimes, you know?

>

> Sue C.

>

> >

> > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> > everyone.

> >

> > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

> >

> > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> > hearing test, etc.

> >

> > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> > wait for what?

> >

> > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

> >

> > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> > someone was finally willing to help!!

> >

> > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

> >

> > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> > what we are dealing with and can help her.

> >

> > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> > gets hot.

> >

> > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> > time.

> >

> > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> > system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

> >

> > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

> >

> > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

> >

> > For us, the time-out chair works great.

> >

> > Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

> >

> > Dave

> >

> > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> > etc.

> >

> > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> > comfort items and carry small items with them.

> >

> > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> > exact same comfort item.

> >

> > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

> >

> > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

> >

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(((Hugs))) to you Donna

I can only begin to relate, we deal with my oldest 2 kids father..not my DH. It

isn't easy. My thoughts are with you.

- C.

Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try

to limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

group just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of

the fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

sometimes, you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Thanks to everyone for the support. Sometimes I just need to vent.

Donna

Mom to 25 ADD, LD, Depression, possible Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder

FASD), Jenna 22 NT, Sam 15 FASD, CAPD, SID, GAD, LD, and Mack 14 AS, ADHD,

bipolar, ODD

( ) Re: Our story

Ian, who's 15, has always liked to hold soft, round things. He's also fixated

on Kirby and

Pokemon video games--both of which have cute little round characters. Ian

carries a

stuffed Pokemon character around with him sometimes and plays with it. I try

to limit him

doing that in public--although I did let him take it to his social skills

group just so his

therapist could see what I was talking about. It's disturbing when a teenage

boy is still

playing with cute little stuffed toys, but I try to think of it in terms of

the fact that he's

emotionally and behaviorally delayed--and not ready to be as grown up as he is

chronologically. At the same time, I've started working him through Roxanna's

list of

independent living skills. You really wonder where this is all going

sometimes, you know?

Sue C.

>

> I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> everyone.

>

> When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

>

> My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> hearing test, etc.

>

> At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> wait for what?

>

> I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

>

> When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> someone was finally willing to help!!

>

> As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

>

> It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> what we are dealing with and can help her.

>

> I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> gets hot.

>

> So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> time.

>

> I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

>

> My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

>

> Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

>

> For us, the time-out chair works great.

>

> Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

>

> Dave

>

> oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> etc.

>

> Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> comfort items and carry small items with them.

>

> To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> exact same comfort item.

>

> There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

>

> Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

>

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Donna, it's a pity our boys don't live near each other. Ian is desperate for a

friend who

shares his interests. Somebody who's only a year younger than he is, who loves

Kirby,

Pokemon, and Bionicles would be an instant hit. As experienced " Aspie Parents "

I bet we

both could handle having the boys together too. Plus, you sound like somebody

*I* would

like. Too bad it's such a big country.

I'm sorry to read about your problems with Mack's biological mom. She sounds

like she's

*really* messing with the kid's head. Kudos to you for keeping the

communication

channels open between them, but it must be so frustrating for you to be dealing

with a

child who's developmentally incapable of seeing how he's being manipulated in

ways that

aren't in his best interest at all.

Have you tried meds with Mack? Ian has problems with his temper too--although

to a

lesser degree than Mack. That may just be because we have Ian on Abilify,

though, which

helps him control himself better. I really think it's important for him to have

that help in

maximizing his ability to stay calm when he's stressed.

Sue C.

> >

> > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> > everyone.

> >

> > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

> >

> > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> > hearing test, etc.

> >

> > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> > wait for what?

> >

> > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

> >

> > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> > someone was finally willing to help!!

> >

> > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

> >

> > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> > what we are dealing with and can help her.

> >

> > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> > gets hot.

> >

> > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> > time.

> >

> > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> > system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

> >

> > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

> >

> > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

> >

> > For us, the time-out chair works great.

> >

> > Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

> >

> > Dave

> >

> > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> > etc.

> >

> > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> > comfort items and carry small items with them.

> >

> > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> > exact same comfort item.

> >

> > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

> >

> > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Sue,

Sorry that I have not responded sooner. It seems like things are always busy.

I wish that we lived near each other as well. It sounds like Ian and Mack would

really hit it off with lots of the same interests. I think that you and I would

hit it off, too.

We'll just have to settle for being " cyber friends. " Even though this is a big

country, the magic of the internet put us close together. You can email be

privately anytime. I will try and be more prompt in responding.

We visited Mack at the RTC this weekend. He is doing well and we continue to be

pleased with the staff. The family therapist is very knowledgable about

Aspergers and Bipolar, as well as Reactive Attachment Disorder which is one of

Mack's diagnosis. He was adopted by my husband and his ex-wife at birth, but

research is now showing that RAD can develop due to experiences of the fetus in

utero. If the birthmother did not want the child, poor prenatal health,

substance abuse, etc. It is obvious that we will need to work on all of the

issues in tandem and it will probably be a long process. We just pray that one

day Mack will be back home and a functioning member of our familly. In the

meantime, as , our family therapist says, " We are exhausted and need to take

this time to recharge our batteries. "

Of course, we still have Sam (15 - FASD, LD, CAPD, SID, mood disorder and

generalized anxiety disorder) and (25 - ADD, LD, mood disorder) still at

home. Sam is struggling in high school and we plan to go into the

Pre-GED/Skills Option diploma beginning next year. He has some Asperger

tendencies as well. We plan to have him evaluated as well. It will probably be

a struggle because he is the type kid that Atwood describes as denying that he

has any problems. He constantly puts up bravado to cover up. But he has very

few fclose friends and also has his obsession with Yu-Gi-Oh and internet

chatting.

is having hernia surgery on Thursday. Once he is recuperated, we hope

that he will be able to find a job and keep it. He has difficultly with

multi-tasking and dealing with things when his way is not the way things are to

be done. He is beginning to realize that he has some issues and seems more

ready to accept some assistance.

Donna

donnalmoore@...

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Donna, it's a pity our boys don't live near each other. Ian is desperate for a

friend who

shares his interests. Somebody who's only a year younger than he is, who loves

Kirby,

Pokemon, and Bionicles would be an instant hit. As experienced " Aspie Parents "

I bet we

both could handle having the boys together too. Plus, you sound like somebody

*I* would

like. Too bad it's such a big country.

I'm sorry to read about your problems with Mack's biological mom. She sounds

like she's

*really* messing with the kid's head. Kudos to you for keeping the

communication

channels open between them, but it must be so frustrating for you to be

dealing with a

child who's developmentally incapable of seeing how he's being manipulated in

ways that

aren't in his best interest at all.

Have you tried meds with Mack? Ian has problems with his temper too--although

to a

lesser degree than Mack. That may just be because we have Ian on Abilify,

though, which

helps him control himself better. I really think it's important for him to

have that help in

maximizing his ability to stay calm when he's stressed.

Sue C.

> >

> > I haven't posted for a while, so just wanted to share and update

> > everyone.

> >

> > When our daughter Lydia was one and a half, I knew that something

> > was different about her, but didn't know what it was. Being a

> > nurse, you think I should have known, but didn't.

> >

> > My wife, in-laws, parents, just thought i was over-reacting and told

> > us to wait. I thought, wait for what, for her to be 5 yrs old and

> > that much further behind. I got her speech tested at two years of

> > age and before I did that, I fought with the pediatrician to get a

> > hearing test, etc.

> >

> > At two, they said that there was nothing wrong, but her speech was

> > just at the low end of normal, i.e., she is ok, just wait. Again,

> > wait for what?

> >

> > I took her back at 3 yrs of age and low and behold she was evaluated

> > as having expressive and receptive language problems. At that time,

> > I had no idea she may have Aspergers as well.

> >

> > When they told me that she was eligible for speech therapy through

> > the school and that it was 4 times per week, I was ecstatic that

> > someone was finally willing to help!!

> >

> > As the therapy continued, we noticed that the behavior, tantrums,

> > head-banging had still not improved, so the school evaluated her for

> > Aspergers and she was diagnosed a few weeks ago.

> >

> > It has been heart-breaking, but also a blessing that we now know

> > what we are dealing with and can help her.

> >

> > I can't tell you the number of relatives who have criticized our

> > parenting style and said that we are too permissive, she just needs

> > to be beat, she's spoiled, etc. Those people are no longer in our

> > life, because I feel that they are not a positive influence on my

> > child's life. You know who you can really stick with and count on

> > when things get tough and the people that are too busy, too

> > impatient to deal with things are the ones that run when the fire

> > gets hot.

> >

> > So, now at 3 and a half she is doing much better. Her speech has

> > improved greatly, she can communicate with us somewhat and make her

> > needs known, but still can't have a conversation, i.e. we can't ask

> > her what she did today and have her tell us, but that will come with

> > time.

> >

> > I know that my child is only 3 and a half, but I can't express the

> > need to get help as soon as possible and continue to fight the

> > system. If you can't help your child, then who will?

> >

> > My wife wasn't completely supportive at first, but is now.

> >

> > Also, the best way to deal with the tantrums, delays, anger and just

> > outright rage is patience, patience, patience, and a lot of love.

> > YOu still have to set boundaries, but be patient.

> >

> > For us, the time-out chair works great.

> >

> > Take care everyone and thank you for listening.

> >

> > Dave

> >

> > oh, I forgot to mention the OCD behavior, fixating on comfort items,

> > etc.

> >

> > Not just blankets, but horses, pearls, whatever. One of the things

> > they (books, experts) tell you is that kids with AS will fixate on

> > comfort items and carry small items with them.

> >

> > To adapt to this behavior we have just purchased several of the

> > exact same comfort item.

> >

> > There was a tiny baby bottle that she took from a craft item at my

> > MIL's house. She would ask for it every morning and a tantrum would

> > ensue until it was found, well I went to 's and bought a pack

> > of 200 for her for $2.00 so that would not happen.

> >

> > Does anyone else have similar issues? Please share

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The banana posts caused someone to email me off list to ask me what the

deal is with my son and bananas because her child craves them. I

responded with our story to keep it in context. I thought it was worth

posting. With that said, a few caveats:

1) I don't know anything for sure but our history.

2) I am not anti-anything, even chelation and do not want to offend any

chelating parents. This is my decision at this time. My children are

young. With the benefit of age and more knowledge of their deal and

better options, reconsiderations may be made.

3) I am not a doctor and if I had this to do over again I would have

remortgaged the house and had a doctor live with us during what was no

doubt an accidental detox.

I will post a second post outlining 's issues from the beginning.

Here is my response to the banana inquiry:

I am trying to know where to start. I'll send you a description of my

son that I gave to someone else. Soon I will be posting a " year in

review of where he is and was as we started EI a year ago. " I will do

genetic testing but I am pretty sure we are OK there. Our problem is

simpler. I have been exposed long term to fluoridated water and had a

long term unaddressed milk allergy. My toxic womb and the worst of this

water drank with son inutero and beyond by him has gone a long way in

putting him where he is. Add vaccines, etc. and this kid was a ticking

timebomb. Fluoride is a mutagenic thing so maybe we will find something

but I doubt it. It along with celiac is so common that 1) the genetic

markers do not catch it or 2) they need more than one to consider it

significant.

Here is how I think it all worked in my son:

Too much fluoride in body

The calcium in milk is not easily absorbed and he was a big consumer.

Calcium pulls out fluoride

The milk was stirring up the fluoride causing so much poop he absorbed

no nutrients, lit is esophagus on fire and sent stomach acids up to his

ears causing hearing to cut in and out despite perfect testing.

Off the milk his eyebrows lifted and so much resolved. Off that water

same thing.

We are off gluten as it is a metal trapper. Those effects are more subtle.

We are filtering all mineral out of srinking water and we have filtered

rust, lead, sediment and chlorine out of showering water.

We are sticking to one childrens 369 a good multi and a good calcium

pill and that is it. We may need to supplement zinc but I need lab

confirmation.

My son got ear tubes despite no infections. Shortly after he lost words

and I began the dietary stuff. I feared I was not getting enough calcium

in him and gave him RDA one day and 5-7 pounds of grey sludge came out

in poop, buckets of brown pee, shiners moved down his face. He smiled

the entire time and never had so much as a fever...the only reason I did

not run to the ER. I believe that was the anesthesia and evidence of

liver problems. After that his stiff legs miraculously left and the dark

roof of his mouth was pink.

The banana cravings were always there, meaning he wanted one or two per

day. As the diet began he wanted as many as he could find. We could not

leave them unattended. I have heard several things that may apply.

Bananas are tasty and filling. A kid who no longer has metal trapped

inside him from fluoride, gluten, and casein no doubt is hungry.

Potassium might be craved. He may be feeding yeast (not sure about

that). He needs inulin...that one seems to be the case now. I give him

bananas but not quite the amount he wants because I did that one day and

it clearly overloaded him.

We eat GFCF, everything from scratch. My kids are toddlers so they

mainly eat soinach ommlettes, GFCF pancakes (Bob's Red Mill) with fruits

and veggies snuck in. I peel everything to make it more easily

digestible. If putting something bitter in there (tomato or spinach) I

usuall add a banana to hide the taste. We don't do nuts yet though I did

a trial of adding hazlenut flour and so far so good. We also eat

meatloaf with various fruits and veggies stuck in. My son is actually

less of a picky eater than his sister who is less brain impaired though

I fear more bodily impaired.

This is where we are right now. The doctors were not listening because

my kids were growing. My son did stop though but not enough to convince

anyone but me we needed a change. The doc said to feed him more. That

was not possible...he ate 24/7 and it was all milk and gluten. Since

switching the diet both kids gained weight. My son ganed 4.5 pounds.

Both kids jumped in height. My daughter grew 2 inches in two weeks. We

are now forced to buy new bike helets as their heads grew. They grew

hair and nails as well. Their feet need to grow more and I fear that

their lymph nodes are not clearing as well down there but some of this

is a waiting game.

I am getting the initial labs for DAN stuff and will use a DAN who takes

insurance to monitor bloodwork over time as I use this approach.

Chelation has been done for 50 years but not to our kids. It has its own

problems and I have seen too many kids with chelators left in etc. That

can't be good. My kids are not that affected and I respect everyone's

decisions but this is mine. I will head to NACD and pursue home therapy.

As for the GERD medication, we never did that because we did not see it

when it was there. He had a rspy voice but never threw up...exactly why

the milk allergy was not obvious. The fact that neither kid would drink

water plain should have been a clue.

MDautie (apparently a doctor) did a recent posts on the cherab site

discussing gut stuff and GERD meds among other things. There are two

posts, one is more detailed. Check them out as they may be helpful.

I am not a doc, just a mom and highly siggest you do this with medical

oversight. I essentially accidentally detoxed my kids and while it was

helpful it was not my intent and I fear too much too soon could be harmful.

I will send a second email describing my son's issues.

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Your son's story sounds so much like our story and lots of stories on this

board.  My son Landon started fevering when he was baby.  All the same symptoms

as your son.  Every other Friday he would start with a high fever, swollen

lympnodes, no appetite, this would last 3-4 days.  As he got older and could

communicate he would complain of leg pain (Landon is now 5).  Our peds. kept

telling us it was viruses and I reluctantly accepted it until I finally broke

when we had to leave Disneyland because of yet another episode.  It took us

until Landon was 3 to get a diagnosis of .  We are on our 3rd pediatrician

who finally agreeded it was not normal to have a virus every other Friday.  We

were referred to a hematology group who tested him for everything under the

sun.  (just a side note they tested Landon during an episode they wanted to test

him during a fever)  We did the prednisone for a year and found the fevers were

coming much closer

together, every 4-7 days, way too much.  The prednisone did take the fever and

other symptoms away just caused the fevers to come closer together.  I found

this group last Feb. during the middle of the night while watching my son burn

up.  I read success stories of having the tonsils and adneoids removed.  Landon

had a T & A in Sept. and has been fever free since.  We just celebrated 12 weeks

of no fevers.  This group is an absolute God sent and has so much information.  

Good luck to you and keeping fighting to get answers, eventually someone will

listen.  Many doctors have not heard of so it is uphill battle but being

informed will help get you to the top. 

Take Care,

Jackie mom to Landon fevering since a baby, T & A in Sept and fever free so far

                      

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Your son's story sounds so much like our story and lots of stories on this

board.  My son Landon started fevering when he was baby.  All the same symptoms

as your son.  Every other Friday he would start with a high fever, swollen

lympnodes, no appetite, this would last 3-4 days.  As he got older and could

communicate he would complain of leg pain (Landon is now 5).  Our peds. kept

telling us it was viruses and I reluctantly accepted it until I finally broke

when we had to leave Disneyland because of yet another episode.  It took us

until Landon was 3 to get a diagnosis of .  We are on our 3rd pediatrician

who finally agreeded it was not normal to have a virus every other Friday.  We

were referred to a hematology group who tested him for everything under the

sun.  (just a side note they tested Landon during an episode they wanted to test

him during a fever)  We did the prednisone for a year and found the fevers were

coming much closer

together, every 4-7 days, way too much.  The prednisone did take the fever and

other symptoms away just caused the fevers to come closer together.  I found

this group last Feb. during the middle of the night while watching my son burn

up.  I read success stories of having the tonsils and adneoids removed.  Landon

had a T & A in Sept. and has been fever free since.  We just celebrated 12 weeks

of no fevers.  This group is an absolute God sent and has so much information.  

Good luck to you and keeping fighting to get answers, eventually someone will

listen.  Many doctors have not heard of so it is uphill battle but being

informed will help get you to the top. 

Take Care,

Jackie mom to Landon fevering since a baby, T & A in Sept and fever free so far

                      

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Your son's story sounds so much like our story and lots of stories on this

board.  My son Landon started fevering when he was baby.  All the same symptoms

as your son.  Every other Friday he would start with a high fever, swollen

lympnodes, no appetite, this would last 3-4 days.  As he got older and could

communicate he would complain of leg pain (Landon is now 5).  Our peds. kept

telling us it was viruses and I reluctantly accepted it until I finally broke

when we had to leave Disneyland because of yet another episode.  It took us

until Landon was 3 to get a diagnosis of .  We are on our 3rd pediatrician

who finally agreeded it was not normal to have a virus every other Friday.  We

were referred to a hematology group who tested him for everything under the

sun.  (just a side note they tested Landon during an episode they wanted to test

him during a fever)  We did the prednisone for a year and found the fevers were

coming much closer

together, every 4-7 days, way too much.  The prednisone did take the fever and

other symptoms away just caused the fevers to come closer together.  I found

this group last Feb. during the middle of the night while watching my son burn

up.  I read success stories of having the tonsils and adneoids removed.  Landon

had a T & A in Sept. and has been fever free since.  We just celebrated 12 weeks

of no fevers.  This group is an absolute God sent and has so much information.  

Good luck to you and keeping fighting to get answers, eventually someone will

listen.  Many doctors have not heard of so it is uphill battle but being

informed will help get you to the top. 

Take Care,

Jackie mom to Landon fevering since a baby, T & A in Sept and fever free so far

                      

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Welcome!

Ohhhh if you only knew how many times I've heard that same crapola

from numerous doctors and family members...

This is a REAL illness....and there is NOBODY....no doc....no nurse

anybody that knows our children better than we do..period. Our

children are the lucky ones in a way b/c we have pushed to find

answers and didn't just take the ole " its a virus " routine. Every

single solid month...at the same time?? Sigh. My pediatrician still

argues with me over it and I made him refer me to an infectious

disease dr at childrens hospital pittsburgh. He wasn't happy about

it..but did it to shut me up I think.

Anyway, I pretty much sat and cried in her office....she believed me

and all the symptoms and my fever chart and everything I was

saying...her low weight...she's 3 and only 26 lbs. the pains in her

knees.....belly aches....it was such a relief to find someone that

actually believed me and I didn't have to be on the defensive.

We are now in the process of trying different meds...to see what

works....if nothing works and she's headed into school...I will push

for the T & A at that time.

Take a deep breath, everyone here understands and has sooooo much

experience. When I'm up around the clock for 3 days straight

rotating tylenol and motrin it makes me feel so much better that I am

not alone or crazy.

Tammy

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