Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 You mean excessive yeast, right, not just yeast? Yeast is always present. It's the overgrowth that is the problem. Antibiotics are a generally accepted direct cause, as is refined sugar and sweetners. Some think fruit, but most do not. Many think excess bad carbs (not veggies and legumes) are a contributing factor, as they break down into sugar, but that's more debatable. Anything that compromises the gut (metals, viruses) can mess up the yeast/bacteria balance, so anything that leads to malabsorption could be an indirect cause. Once you have a problem, you're probably also hypersensitive to other things, but in a normal gut those things would probably not affect you. That's my understanding of the yeast situation. in NJ > > Is there a list of potential causes of yeast? I know antibiotics are > one but is there any science behind other causes: allergy, > malabsorption, metal, virus, bacteria? Anyone know what is fact, > fiction, up for debate on this one? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Our DAN! doc explained that kids with leaky gut tend to not break food down completely thus leaving undigested food in the gut. This undigested food just sits there and ferments. His words, not mine. Thus another argument for the use of enzymes to ensure that food is broken down and digested better. Undigested food can contribute to yeast. I think it also has something to do with the ph balance in the body. A diet high in sugar can also lead to yeast overgrowth. Sugar feeds yeast. Even the healthiest person has yeast - we have both the good and bad in our bodies. The problems come up when your scale of balance is disturbed and the scales tip more in favor of the bad yeast. > > Is there a list of potential causes of yeast? I know antibiotics are > one but is there any science behind other causes: allergy, > malabsorption, metal, virus, bacteria? Anyone know what is fact, > fiction, up for debate on this one? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yes, I mean excessive. That is the yeast we have here in at least 2 of us. Thanks for the help. > > > > Is there a list of potential causes of yeast? I know antibiotics > are > > one but is there any science behind other causes: allergy, > > malabsorption, metal, virus, bacteria? Anyone know what is fact, > > fiction, up for debate on this one? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Can you repair the gut enough to stop the enzymes once started (remember I have light kids)? I am testing urine and saliva for pH these days. Good book I hear is The pH factor. > > > > Is there a list of potential causes of yeast? I know antibiotics > are > > one but is there any science behind other causes: allergy, > > malabsorption, metal, virus, bacteria? Anyone know what is fact, > > fiction, up for debate on this one? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thankyou. I will try first. It is actually who needs them. is really improving. I am almost afraid to tell that story. In due time. > > Yes.... just like saliva is full of enzymes. Don't forget to tell your children to chew, chew, chew. Our kids tend to shove the food straight down their throats and the saliva doesn't even have a chance to do its job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Just please be careful - if your child is allergic to mold, many of the enzymes are made from aspergillus. My child had his worst regression ever while taking enzymes. No one could figure out why until we discovered he was allergic to what they were made from. It was also 100% proof of how he reacts to ingested allergens. We went from a complete regression that spanned 2 weeks - I'm talking out-of- control sensory seeking kid - to complete recovery within 5 hours of removing the enzymes. > > Yes.... just like saliva is full of enzymes. Don't forget to tell your children to chew, chew, chew. Our kids tend to shove the food straight down their throats and the saliva doesn't even have a chance to do its job. > > So.... the enzymes are a wonderful lifesaver.... or stomach saver! > > Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I think the one recommended is OK but am checking. It is the no fenol. We have this issue of aspergillus so we are not messing it up with an enzyme. No way. > > Just please be careful - if your child is allergic to mold, many of > the enzymes are made from aspergillus. My child had his worst > regression ever while taking enzymes. No one could figure out why > until we discovered he was allergic to what they were made from. It > was also 100% proof of how he reacts to ingested allergens. We went > from a complete regression that spanned 2 weeks - I'm talking out- of- > control sensory seeking kid - to complete recovery within 5 hours > of removing the enzymes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 And for those truly yeast allergic...even the " normal " amount of yeast in the gut may contribute to chronic inflammation. So not really a " yeast problem " ...as much as being allergic to something that is normally in your environment...like pollen and ragweed etc. Its a problem for those who are allergic, but not the rest of the world. - >> You mean excessive yeast, right, not just yeast? Yeast is always > present. It's the overgrowth that is the problem. Antibiotics are a > generally accepted direct cause, as is refined sugar and sweetners. > Some think fruit, but most do not. Many think excess bad carbs (not > veggies and legumes) are a contributing factor, as they break down > into sugar, but that's more debatable. Anything that compromises the > gut (metals, viruses) can mess up the yeast/bacteria balance, so > anything that leads to malabsorption could be an indirect cause. > Once you have a problem, you're probably also hypersensitive to other > things, but in a normal gut those things would probably not affect > you. > > That's my understanding of the yeast situation. > > in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I think this is the difference. We may be having reactions due to yeast build up issues versus real allergy. Is that even possible or am I once again talking out of school? > >> You mean excessive yeast, right, not just yeast? Yeast is always > > present. It's the overgrowth that is the problem. Antibiotics are > a > > generally accepted direct cause, as is refined sugar and > sweetners. > > Some think fruit, but most do not. Many think excess bad carbs > (not > > veggies and legumes) are a contributing factor, as they break down > > into sugar, but that's more debatable. Anything that compromises > the > > gut (metals, viruses) can mess up the yeast/bacteria balance, so > > anything that leads to malabsorption could be an indirect cause. > > Once you have a problem, you're probably also hypersensitive to > other > > things, but in a normal gut those things would probably not affect > > you. > > > > That's my understanding of the yeast situation. > > > > in NJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I am assuming, with an allergy like that you do not outgrow it like the bronchial stuff? > > >> You mean excessive yeast, right, not just yeast? Yeast is always > > > present. It's the overgrowth that is the problem. Antibiotics > are > > a > > > generally accepted direct cause, as is refined sugar and > > sweetners. > > > Some think fruit, but most do not. Many think excess bad carbs > > (not > > > veggies and legumes) are a contributing factor, as they break down > > > into sugar, but that's more debatable. Anything that compromises > > the > > > gut (metals, viruses) can mess up the yeast/bacteria balance, so > > > anything that leads to malabsorption could be an indirect cause. > > > Once you have a problem, you're probably also hypersensitive to > > other > > > things, but in a normal gut those things would probably not affect > > > you. > > > > > > That's my understanding of the yeast situation. > > > > > > in NJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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