Re: what do you think?

September 14, 2005

I don't know what to say about the first doctor. It may be that he is good

and just has a crappy receptionist (or nurse, is more likely the case). I

CAN say that Dr Pirani is unquestionably one of the top Ponseti doctors in

the world ... and he has had a huge part in bringing the method to the

poorer countries of the world in its 100% correct form.

On a side note, I just now realized exactly how close Dr Pirani is to us!

All this time .... sigh. Well, if Dr Mosca's recent casting doesnt go well,

I now realize we can drive another hour and a half to Vancouver! lol

Angel

Caitlen 8/29/97

Arica 8/22/01

Kai 12/31/02

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Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot

To: nosurgery4clubfoot

Subject: what do you think?

Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:49:15 -0000

Hello,

I wondered if anyone had the checklist of what to ask a doctor to

ensure he

knows how to apply the Ponseti method correctly? I know I had the

link saved

somewhere but I can't find it anymore.

I want to fax a doctor in Vancouver and have him address the

questions since

I don't really want to fly out there just to see if he would be a

good

doctor for my baby.

Dr. Ponseti mentioned a Dr. Moreau in Edmonton but said that he

doesn't know

the success rates he's acheiving and if he's using the method

correctly. So

I called Dr. Moreau's office today and spoke with his receptionist.

I asked for the fax number so I could send him a fax with some

questions and

so she inquired a bit further so I told her some of the things I

wanted to

know. (success rate, rate of babies requiring surgery after failed

Ponseti

treatment, could I speak with other parents of babies that he's

treated).

Anyway, she was sort of rude, I thought. She told me that " of course

they

use the Ponseti method...that's all they've been using for 2 years " .

When I

asked about success rate or surgical rate, she didn't know and had

an

attitude as though that isn't something important I would need to

know.

She wanted to know why I wasn't just going to go to the Calgary

Children's

Hospital (a possibility but we haven't spoken w/drs there yet and

none are

Ponseti certified) and I told her that there wasn't anyone near here

that

was certified. She said that there really isn't a need to

be " certified " and

that either you use the Ponseti method or you don't and that it

isn't

" rocket science " (yes, that's what she said!).

Anyway, I guess I won't be able to correspond w/Dr. Moreau through

her and I

don't know that I'd want to deal with someone like that during the

course of

treatment anyway. As a parent, I should be able to find out exactly

what

their methodology is she should understand that! She says he has

taught

other Drs about the method (so I guess that means he's wonderful?).

Why

don't these Drs want to get " certified " so that parents could go to

them

with confidence without waiting to see if they do it right?

I spoke with Dr. Pirani's receptionist in Vancouver (who came highly

recommended by Dr. Ponseti) and she was great and told me to fax all

of my

questions etc.

Anyway, sorry to rant but it sort of made me mad that the first lady

was so

unaccomodating and condescending! How did you find it trying to weed

out the

bad drs armed with your Ponseti checklist? Also, if so many drs are

using

it, why not get certified? Also, since Dr. Moreau is much closer

(3hr drive

vs 1 hr flight to Vancouver) would you still pursue trying to get

the

questions answered or is such a bad " gatekeeper " an indication that

it might

not be the best place to get treatment?

Thanks very much!

Halley

September 14, 2005

OMG Angel... DUH! How none of us ever realized that is beyond me... I

feel really stupid now!

Kori

At 09:08 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:

>I don't know what to say about the first doctor. It may be that he is good

>and just has a crappy receptionist (or nurse, is more likely the case). I

>CAN say that Dr Pirani is unquestionably one of the top Ponseti doctors in

>the world ... and he has had a huge part in bringing the method to the

>poorer countries of the world in its 100% correct form.

>

>On a side note, I just now realized exactly how close Dr Pirani is to us!

>All this time .... sigh. Well, if Dr Mosca's recent casting doesnt go well,

>I now realize we can drive another hour and a half to Vancouver! lol

>

>Angel

>Caitlen 8/29/97

>Arica 8/22/01

>Kai 12/31/02

>

>----Original Message Follows----

>

>Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>Subject: what do you think?

>Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:49:15 -0000

>

>Hello,

>

>I wondered if anyone had the checklist of what to ask a doctor to

>ensure he

>knows how to apply the Ponseti method correctly? I know I had the

>link saved

>somewhere but I can't find it anymore.

>

>I want to fax a doctor in Vancouver and have him address the

>questions since

>I don't really want to fly out there just to see if he would be a

>good

>doctor for my baby.

>

>Dr. Ponseti mentioned a Dr. Moreau in Edmonton but said that he

>doesn't know

>the success rates he's acheiving and if he's using the method

>correctly. So

>I called Dr. Moreau's office today and spoke with his receptionist.

>I asked for the fax number so I could send him a fax with some

>questions and

>so she inquired a bit further so I told her some of the things I

>wanted to

>know. (success rate, rate of babies requiring surgery after failed

>Ponseti

>treatment, could I speak with other parents of babies that he's

>treated).

>Anyway, she was sort of rude, I thought. She told me that " of course

>they

>use the Ponseti method...that's all they've been using for 2 years " .

>When I

>asked about success rate or surgical rate, she didn't know and had

>an

>attitude as though that isn't something important I would need to

>know.

>She wanted to know why I wasn't just going to go to the Calgary

>Children's

>Hospital (a possibility but we haven't spoken w/drs there yet and

>none are

>Ponseti certified) and I told her that there wasn't anyone near here

>that

>was certified. She said that there really isn't a need to

>be " certified " and

>that either you use the Ponseti method or you don't and that it

>isn't

> " rocket science " (yes, that's what she said!).

>Anyway, I guess I won't be able to correspond w/Dr. Moreau through

>her and I

>don't know that I'd want to deal with someone like that during the

>course of

>treatment anyway. As a parent, I should be able to find out exactly

>what

>their methodology is she should understand that! She says he has

>taught

>other Drs about the method (so I guess that means he's wonderful?).

>Why

>don't these Drs want to get " certified " so that parents could go to

>them

>with confidence without waiting to see if they do it right?

>I spoke with Dr. Pirani's receptionist in Vancouver (who came highly

>recommended by Dr. Ponseti) and she was great and told me to fax all

>of my

>questions etc.

>

>Anyway, sorry to rant but it sort of made me mad that the first lady

>was so

>unaccomodating and condescending! How did you find it trying to weed

>out the

>bad drs armed with your Ponseti checklist? Also, if so many drs are

>using

>it, why not get certified? Also, since Dr. Moreau is much closer

>(3hr drive

>vs 1 hr flight to Vancouver) would you still pursue trying to get

>the

>questions answered or is such a bad " gatekeeper " an indication that

>it might

>not be the best place to get treatment?

>

>Thanks very much!

>

>Halley

>

September 14, 2005