Re: Re: Questions????Janice

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Janice,

Thanks! It seems as though Tyler understands and responds pretty quickly to

what people say to him but I'm going to keep monitoring what I see. I don't

know if it's something that becomes more apparent over time. I missed your

email earlier when I rsponded to and Liz, but I mentioned to them too that

we are off milk right now. It does seem to congest his nose which clearly means

his ears would be congested too. The main reason we have him off milk is

because of the congestion and eczema he gets on milk. The interesting thing is

we originally did a casein free trial to see if there would be speech or any

overall improvements and we didn't find any in those 3 weeks. What we found was

back on milk over time the congestion returns. The strange thing is that the

two times we reintroduced milk full force is when there were huge speech bursts.

I'm certain the milk does not help his speech in any way it was just the

complete opposite of what we expected. So now I

think it's just a mild milk " allergy " causing congestion as opposed to a casein

issue. We are milk free now in that we don't give any dairy products but I'm

not being so strict in terms of checking every single label for casein. I'll

let him have some occasional goldfish crackers. I don't think it affects him

that way. Any thoughts?

Thanks again!

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

,

I didn't know.... until I went to NACD and they explained it to me when my child

was 11. Upon reflection, I realize that my son must have failed all of the tests

in this area and that other people who were supposedly 'experts' should have

realized this but....

Let's just put it this way; if your child has an expressive/receptive language

problem, in all probability he has an auditory processing issue. When we put the

auditory processing together for Mark and made him age-appropriate, many of the

language pieces fell into place. Yes, there were some articulation issues but he

could actually speak coherently and with fluency; create a story with a

beginning, a middle and an ending, combat with his sister verbally and

'remember' his point.... the auditory processing component is that 'slowness' of

response. It's that kind of 'duh' look your child gives you when you tell him to

do something. Your child is just a 'step or two' behind everything.... and that

is procesing. Fix the processing and you go a long way to really helping the

child. It is the 'what did you say?' (quizical look) in your child's language.

Tonal processing is reflected by their dropping off of consonents at the end of

words such as instead of 'lots of stuff', it's more like lo' o' stuff. This is

indicative that the child is 'missing' out hearing certain sounds (quite often

consonents) and simply does not say them or learn them because he cannot 'hear'

them. A program such as The Listening Program works wonders for these issues. It

also works well for hyper-sensitive issues as well and 'resensitizes' the ear to

accomodate all of the pitches and tones pertinent to the human ear.

BUT.... if your child has auditory processing and/or tonal processing, I'd wager

my right hand that they are having issues with casien so.... that has to go as

well if you're going to really see the 'normalization' of processing sounds for

them.

Janice

[sPAM] Re: [ ]

> > Questions????In a message dated 9/16/2007 8:01:02 P.M. Eastern

> Daylight

> > Time, hanagan_8@... writes:*He has a restricted frenulum. The

> > therapist would like to see it clipped. The doctor is opposed to

> it. Has

> > anyone else encountered this issue? I've read that it doesn't help

> to clip

> > the frenulum, and I'd rather avoid unnecessary surgical procedures.

> > Currently, though, he can't touch the top of his lips or move his

> tongue

> > from side to side. This ABSOLUTELY DOES Affect how a child can or

> cannot

> > talk. If the frenulum is restricted, GET IT CLIPPED, without a

> doubt!I have

> > had personal experience with this with TWO of my children as

> babies, and

> > since they were breastfed, it made a difference with their

> eating.Knowing

> > that they needed the tongue to be able to touch the top of their

> mouth, I

> > went immediately to the ENT, since the Ped's don't clip them

> anymore, but

> > rather the ENT.The guy didn't want to clip it for a newborn, but

> once he

> > realized that the child couldn't feed properly, then he agreed to

> it.The

> > thing they told me with each child though, was that they wouldn't

> normally

> > clip until they child had difficulty speaking. I was incensed by

> that,

> > because even as a baby, they need the tongue for pre-speech

> movements and if

> > they don't have that-- they will acquire a speech problem, as

> compared to

> > simply avoiding one altogether.Doesn't it make more sense for them

> to take

> > care of the tongue BEFORE it's an issue, and before the parents

> have to

> > spend hundreds or thousands on speech therapy to correct a problem

> that

> > could have simply been avoided altogether?You can tell this is a

> pet peeve

> > of mineBut, in all honesty, if it's something I can stress highly,

> it's to

> > most definitely get the frenulum clipped if it's restricted,

> because then

> > all of the speech therapy that you pay for simply won't be as

> effective.It's

> > not real surgery-- it's simply a clip to the tongue, and it's done

> literally

> > in seconds, and it's

> over.Becky************************************** See

> > what's new at http://www.aol.com <http://www.aol.com>[Non-text

> portions of this message

> have been

> > removed]

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One thing I noticed in hindsight. My kids ate a lot of sweet potatoes

and carrots and had keratosis. Long after that went away it remained in

their ears when on milk...GERD related ear thing I think.

lauren baron wrote:

> Janice,

> Thanks! It seems as though Tyler understands and responds pretty

> quickly to what people say to him but I'm going to keep monitoring

> what I see. I don't know if it's something that becomes more apparent

> over time. I missed your email earlier when I rsponded to and

> Liz, but I mentioned to them too that we are off milk right now. It

> does seem to congest his nose which clearly means his ears would be

> congested too. The main reason we have him off milk is because of the

> congestion and eczema he gets on milk. The interesting thing is we

> originally did a casein free trial to see if there would be speech or

> any overall improvements and we didn't find any in those 3 weeks. What

> we found was back on milk over time the congestion returns. The

> strange thing is that the two times we reintroduced milk full force is

> when there were huge speech bursts. I'm certain the milk does not help

> his speech in any way it was just the complete opposite of what we

> expected. So now I

> think it's just a mild milk " allergy " causing congestion as opposed to

> a casein issue. We are milk free now in that we don't give any dairy

> products but I'm not being so strict in terms of checking every single

> label for casein. I'll let him have some occasional goldfish crackers.

> I don't think it affects him that way. Any thoughts?

> Thanks again!

>

> Janice <jscott@... <mailto:jscott%40interbaun.com>> wrote:

> ,

>

> I didn't know.... until I went to NACD and they explained it to me

> when my child was 11. Upon reflection, I realize that my son must have

> failed all of the tests in this area and that other people who were

> supposedly 'experts' should have realized this but....

>

> Let's just put it this way; if your child has an expressive/receptive

> language problem, in all probability he has an auditory processing

> issue. When we put the auditory processing together for Mark and made

> him age-appropriate, many of the language pieces fell into place. Yes,

> there were some articulation issues but he could actually speak

> coherently and with fluency; create a story with a beginning, a middle

> and an ending, combat with his sister verbally and 'remember' his

> point.... the auditory processing component is that 'slowness' of

> response. It's that kind of 'duh' look your child gives you when you

> tell him to do something. Your child is just a 'step or two' behind

> everything.... and that is procesing. Fix the processing and you go a

> long way to really helping the child. It is the 'what did you say?'

> (quizical look) in your child's language.

>

> Tonal processing is reflected by their dropping off of consonents at

> the end of words such as instead of 'lots of stuff', it's more like

> lo' o' stuff. This is indicative that the child is 'missing' out

> hearing certain sounds (quite often consonents) and simply does not

> say them or learn them because he cannot 'hear' them. A program such

> as The Listening Program works wonders for these issues. It also works

> well for hyper-sensitive issues as well and 'resensitizes' the ear to

> accomodate all of the pitches and tones pertinent to the human ear.

>

> BUT.... if your child has auditory processing and/or tonal processing,

> I'd wager my right hand that they are having issues with casien so....

> that has to go as well if you're going to really see the

> 'normalization' of processing sounds for them.

>

> Janice

>

> [sPAM] Re: [ ]

> > > Questions????In a message dated 9/16/2007 8:01:02 P.M. Eastern

> > Daylight

> > > Time, hanagan_8@... writes:*He has a restricted frenulum. The

> > > therapist would like to see it clipped. The doctor is opposed to

> > it. Has

> > > anyone else encountered this issue? I've read that it doesn't help

> > to clip

> > > the frenulum, and I'd rather avoid unnecessary surgical procedures.

> > > Currently, though, he can't touch the top of his lips or move his

> > tongue

> > > from side to side. This ABSOLUTELY DOES Affect how a child can or

> > cannot

> > > talk. If the frenulum is restricted, GET IT CLIPPED, without a

> > doubt!I have

> > > had personal experience with this with TWO of my children as

> > babies, and

> > > since they were breastfed, it made a difference with their

> > eating.Knowing

> > > that they needed the tongue to be able to touch the top of their

> > mouth, I

> > > went immediately to the ENT, since the Ped's don't clip them

> > anymore, but

> > > rather the ENT.The guy didn't want to clip it for a newborn, but

> > once he

> > > realized that the child couldn't feed properly, then he agreed to

> > it.The

> > > thing they told me with each child though, was that they wouldn't

> > normally

> > > clip until they child had difficulty speaking. I was incensed by

> > that,

> > > because even as a baby, they need the tongue for pre-speech

> > movements and if

> > > they don't have that-- they will acquire a speech problem, as

> > compared to

> > > simply avoiding one altogether.Doesn't it make more sense for them

> > to take

> > > care of the tongue BEFORE it's an issue, and before the parents

> > have to

> > > spend hundreds or thousands on speech therapy to correct a problem

> > that

> > > could have simply been avoided altogether?You can tell this is a

> > pet peeve

> > > of mineBut, in all honesty, if it's something I can stress highly,

> > it's to

> > > most definitely get the frenulum clipped if it's restricted,

> > because then

> > > all of the speech therapy that you pay for simply won't be as

> > effective.It's

> > > not real surgery-- it's simply a clip to the tongue, and it's done

> > literally

> > > in seconds, and it's

> > over.Becky************************************** See

> > > what's new at http://www.aol.com <http://www.aol.com>

> <http://www.aol.com <http://www.aol.com>>[Non-text

> > portions of this message

> > have been

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