Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hi Joe- Your doubt is warranted. This surgery has fatalities, illness, leaks adn other complications for some. Many are doing great. It is a very big decision and not one to be taken lightly. I will just say that I am thrilled about this surgery and I am 8 months out and feeling great. I have developed a hernia whch is a possibility with this surgery. BUT-I would do it over in a heartbeat. Many others that have had serious complications say the same. I wish you luck with this big decision. Ellen(Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hi Joe- Your doubt is warranted. This surgery has fatalities, illness, leaks adn other complications for some. Many are doing great. It is a very big decision and not one to be taken lightly. I will just say that I am thrilled about this surgery and I am 8 months out and feeling great. I have developed a hernia whch is a possibility with this surgery. BUT-I would do it over in a heartbeat. Many others that have had serious complications say the same. I wish you luck with this big decision. Ellen(Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Joe- This surgery is not a " quick fix " ... its a permanent one, to improve your life and quality of life. We have better intra-op risks than most bypass patients, but if your doctor said you needed a bypass, would you have doubts because a few people died after surgery? Probly not. This IS a huge change, and a major surgery.. but its not a bad risk. I won't say you're wrong for having these thoughts, I think we all had a few.. but keep it in perspective. You'll do fine, hon. Hope this helped, Liane > Wow. > > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't wait > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites, ObesityHelp > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities. > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. > > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly, > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too..... > > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way? > > Joe in Vermont > Doing the research... > Consult w/ Gagner in October > BMI 56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 In a message dated 07/30/2001 2:15:47 PM Central Daylight Time, jjamineteoj@... writes: << I'm coming to the conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too..... >> This is only during the weight loss phase for some (some of us rebelled from any struction except " protein first " . The good thing is that if you do a " maximizing weight loss " regimen such as atkins would give you, the weight will not come back like before when you return to a more varied diet (always remembering " protein first'). Dawn--Chicago metro---south Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH BPD/DS 4/27/00 www.duodenalswitch.com 267 to 165 size 22 to size 10 have made size goal no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 In a message dated 07/30/2001 2:15:47 PM Central Daylight Time, jjamineteoj@... writes: << I'm coming to the conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too..... >> This is only during the weight loss phase for some (some of us rebelled from any struction except " protein first " . The good thing is that if you do a " maximizing weight loss " regimen such as atkins would give you, the weight will not come back like before when you return to a more varied diet (always remembering " protein first'). Dawn--Chicago metro---south Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH BPD/DS 4/27/00 www.duodenalswitch.com 267 to 165 size 22 to size 10 have made size goal no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Dawn said: The good thing is that if you do a " maximizing weight loss " regimen such as atkins would give you, the weight will not come back like before when you return to a more varied diet (always remembering " protein first'). Do you mean that if when first post op that if we try to vary our diet too much too soon, that there's a possibility that some of the weight might return easier, than if we tried to lose in the fastest way possible? Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Dawn said: The good thing is that if you do a " maximizing weight loss " regimen such as atkins would give you, the weight will not come back like before when you return to a more varied diet (always remembering " protein first'). Do you mean that if when first post op that if we try to vary our diet too much too soon, that there's a possibility that some of the weight might return easier, than if we tried to lose in the fastest way possible? Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 At 7:13 PM +0000 7/30/01, jjamineteoj@... wrote: >Wow....it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a >direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. > >... > >Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural >phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way? > All the time, Joe, up until they wheeled me in. --Steve -- Steve Goldstein, age 61 Lap BPD/DS on May 2, 2001 Dr. Elariny, INOVA Fairfax Hospital, Virginia Starting (05/02/01) BMI = 51 BMI on 07/26 = 43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 At 7:13 PM +0000 7/30/01, jjamineteoj@... wrote: >Wow....it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a >direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. > >... > >Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural >phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way? > All the time, Joe, up until they wheeled me in. --Steve -- Steve Goldstein, age 61 Lap BPD/DS on May 2, 2001 Dr. Elariny, INOVA Fairfax Hospital, Virginia Starting (05/02/01) BMI = 51 BMI on 07/26 = 43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hey Joe, I've had very similar thoughts...maybe I just havn't tried hard enough...maybe I should try, yet another time. But what havn't I tried...and I never seem to keep it off for good. Sooner or later, it always creeps back on...still, I can't help but worry about leaving my children behind. It's a huge risk...one that so many swear by and few have died by. Is it worth it? For the ones who had success with the surgery and have " crossed over " ....most swear that they would do it again tomorrow. For the others who died and " crossed over " ....I guess we'll never know if it was the right choice or not. Was it their time to go....or....if they had just dieted one more time, would they still be here? These are the crazy making thoughts that fly through my head. K.C. Fatalities > Wow. > > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't wait > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites, ObesityHelp > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities. > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. > > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly, > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too..... > > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way? > > Joe in Vermont > Doing the research... > Consult w/ Gagner in October > BMI 56 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hey Joe, I've had very similar thoughts...maybe I just havn't tried hard enough...maybe I should try, yet another time. But what havn't I tried...and I never seem to keep it off for good. Sooner or later, it always creeps back on...still, I can't help but worry about leaving my children behind. It's a huge risk...one that so many swear by and few have died by. Is it worth it? For the ones who had success with the surgery and have " crossed over " ....most swear that they would do it again tomorrow. For the others who died and " crossed over " ....I guess we'll never know if it was the right choice or not. Was it their time to go....or....if they had just dieted one more time, would they still be here? These are the crazy making thoughts that fly through my head. K.C. Fatalities > Wow. > > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't wait > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites, ObesityHelp > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities. > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. > > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly, > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too..... > > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way? > > Joe in Vermont > Doing the research... > Consult w/ Gagner in October > BMI 56 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Joe, If you are having doubts don't have the surgery. When I had surgery there wasn't a doubt in my mind that I wasn't doing the right thing for me. Yes I knew that I had a chance of dying, but I was so dam sick of being obese. Lumbering around, panting just to walk from the parking lot to my office. Hurting all the time, feet, knees and back. I feared dying, but I feared living the way I was living more. Maybe you just got to hit bottom before you make a decision as big as surgery. I tried the one more diet before I decided on surgery. I tried Fen Phen the summer of 96. I was a model patient. I ate what I was suppose to and not a bite more. My doctor told me to walk and I did in 18 months I went from half mile to 9 to 10 miles 6x week. The doctor told me to strength train and off to the gym 3 or 4 times a week. For two years I ate, drank, and lived diet. My husband hated me for spending so much time walking, but I had to, if I stopped for even a minute I would gain weight. Then they took the Fen Phen away. It didn't matter how much I walked or trained or how hungry I would be all the time, the weight came back. Slowly at first, then it got harder to walk fast, harder to move at the gym, I was so hungry it hurt. Two years later, four years from the day I had swore that this time would be the last time I would ever be fat again, I stood in front of my mirror, like those years didn't happen. I had nothing to show for all that effort and struggle and will power… nothing. Surgery is not a quick fix, it is the last fix. Yes, it maybe easier to lose weight with surgery, but haven't we all paid our dues for the chance to be normal, I know I have paid and paid and paid. So Joe, if you think you have one more diet left in you, then you owe it to yourself to make that effort. Surgery is the last resort, when you finally know that the benefits out weigh the risks. Until then try everything else first. Oh by the way. I eat what I want when I want it as long as I get my protein in I don't worry about the rest. I am eating sandwiches, pizza, nachos, burgers with the bun, tacos, ice cream, potatoes, rice, and pasta. Atkins this is not. Oh and one more thing I have lost 92 pounds just shy of six months. Now where is that sicker bar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Joe, If you are having doubts don't have the surgery. When I had surgery there wasn't a doubt in my mind that I wasn't doing the right thing for me. Yes I knew that I had a chance of dying, but I was so dam sick of being obese. Lumbering around, panting just to walk from the parking lot to my office. Hurting all the time, feet, knees and back. I feared dying, but I feared living the way I was living more. Maybe you just got to hit bottom before you make a decision as big as surgery. I tried the one more diet before I decided on surgery. I tried Fen Phen the summer of 96. I was a model patient. I ate what I was suppose to and not a bite more. My doctor told me to walk and I did in 18 months I went from half mile to 9 to 10 miles 6x week. The doctor told me to strength train and off to the gym 3 or 4 times a week. For two years I ate, drank, and lived diet. My husband hated me for spending so much time walking, but I had to, if I stopped for even a minute I would gain weight. Then they took the Fen Phen away. It didn't matter how much I walked or trained or how hungry I would be all the time, the weight came back. Slowly at first, then it got harder to walk fast, harder to move at the gym, I was so hungry it hurt. Two years later, four years from the day I had swore that this time would be the last time I would ever be fat again, I stood in front of my mirror, like those years didn't happen. I had nothing to show for all that effort and struggle and will power… nothing. Surgery is not a quick fix, it is the last fix. Yes, it maybe easier to lose weight with surgery, but haven't we all paid our dues for the chance to be normal, I know I have paid and paid and paid. So Joe, if you think you have one more diet left in you, then you owe it to yourself to make that effort. Surgery is the last resort, when you finally know that the benefits out weigh the risks. Until then try everything else first. Oh by the way. I eat what I want when I want it as long as I get my protein in I don't worry about the rest. I am eating sandwiches, pizza, nachos, burgers with the bun, tacos, ice cream, potatoes, rice, and pasta. Atkins this is not. Oh and one more thing I have lost 92 pounds just shy of six months. Now where is that sicker bar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Joe, Yes if u could stick to the Atkins diet u would lose weight,but if u have the fat gene and it has been proven that some people r genetically inclined to be obese then no it won't last.The fatalities r few compered to the ones who gain their life back due to wls.So chin up as Charolete told Wilbur and move on with this wls and gain your life as I am.Hope this helps. WLS SISTER, MELANIE TAYLOR BPD/DS 7-10-01/OPEN jjamineteoj@... wrote: Wow.I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't wait to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites, ObesityHelp perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities. Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly, I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?Joe in VermontDoing the research...Consult w/ Gagner in OctoberBMI 56---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Joe, Yes if u could stick to the Atkins diet u would lose weight,but if u have the fat gene and it has been proven that some people r genetically inclined to be obese then no it won't last.The fatalities r few compered to the ones who gain their life back due to wls.So chin up as Charolete told Wilbur and move on with this wls and gain your life as I am.Hope this helps. WLS SISTER, MELANIE TAYLOR BPD/DS 7-10-01/OPEN jjamineteoj@... wrote: Wow.I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't wait to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites, ObesityHelp perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities. Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did. I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly, I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are eating a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real advantage to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick to Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?Joe in VermontDoing the research...Consult w/ Gagner in OctoberBMI 56---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 In a message dated 07/30/2001 7:25:37 PM Central Daylight Time, SKeib13337@... writes: << Do you mean that if when first post op that if we try to vary our diet too much too soon, that there's a possibility that some of the weight might return easier, than if we tried to lose in the fastest way possible? Sheryl >> I mean someone who sticks to meat and vegetable, I think will end up with a greater percentage of Excess weight off than those of us who just chose to live keeping in mind " protein first " . I don't think that it is a matter of what you will keep off but what you will get off in the weight loss period. I can't exactly site where and or why I got the info to have this opinion because I have read so much and talked to so many. Dawn--Chicago metro---south Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH BPD/DS 4/27/00 www.duodenalswitch.com 267 to 165 size 22 to size 10 have made size goal no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Joe, I too had many times of doubt and fear. In fact, Teri, who's reply to you you see here, was my angel. The night before my surgery, when my family had left and I was alone in that hospital room, I had crippling fear. I called Teri and told her I wanted to walk out. She was stunned, as she knows the months and months of research I went through, and the fight with my insurance. I had long ago made the decision, and I too was surprised by my fear. Teri coaxed me through the worst of it, then told me she'd never talk to me again if I chickened out! I heald on to the shred of courage I had and went through with it. (that, and a sedative from my exhausted nurse!). I chose a permanent solution, and am glad I did. I will no longer be a spectator in my own life, and will NEVER ever again diet. I am free. You have many options on how to treat your obesity. If you have another diet in you, do it. WLS gets better and better every year that goes by. It will still be here for you whenever you are ready. -- In duodenalswitch@y..., editorking@h... wrote: > Joe, > > If you are having doubts don't have the surgery. When I had surgery > there wasn't a doubt in my mind that I wasn't doing the right thing > for me. Yes I knew that I had a chance of dying, but I was so dam > sick of being obese. Lumbering around, panting just to walk from the > parking lot to my office. Hurting all the time, feet, knees and > back. I feared dying, but I feared living the way I was living > more. Maybe you just got to hit bottom before you make a decision as > big as surgery. > > I tried the one more diet before I decided on surgery. I tried Fen > Phen the summer of 96. I was a model patient. I ate what I was > suppose to and not a bite more. My doctor told me to walk and I did > in 18 months I went from half mile to 9 to 10 miles 6x week. The > doctor told me to strength train and off to the gym 3 or 4 times a > week. For two years I ate, drank, and lived diet. My husband hated > me for spending so much time walking, but I had to, if I stopped for > even a minute I would gain weight. Then they took the Fen Phen > away. It didn't matter how much I walked or trained or how hungry I > would be all the time, the weight came back. Slowly at first, then > it got harder to walk fast, harder to move at the gym, I was so > hungry it hurt. Two years later, four years from the day I had swore > that this time would be the last time I would ever be fat again, I > stood in front of my mirror, like those years didn't happen. I had > nothing to show for all that effort and struggle and will power… > nothing. > > Surgery is not a quick fix, it is the last fix. Yes, it maybe easier > to lose weight with surgery, but haven't we all paid our dues for the > chance to be normal, I know I have paid and paid and paid. > > So Joe, if you think you have one more diet left in you, then you owe > it to yourself to make that effort. Surgery is the last resort, when > you finally know that the benefits out weigh the risks. Until then > try everything else first. > > Oh by the way. I eat what I want when I want it as long as I get my > protein in I don't worry about the rest. I am eating sandwiches, > pizza, nachos, burgers with the bun, tacos, ice cream, potatoes, > rice, and pasta. Atkins this is not. > > Oh and one more thing I have lost 92 pounds just shy of six months. > Now where is that sicker bar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 I went through this phase. I read the entire Obesityhelp.com memorial list and all the stories. I did searches for wls deaths, the whole 9 yards. I was freaking for a bit and spoke to tons of people about this. I think most people go through this phase. Then a patient died who had my surgeon at 6 months post-op. I was terrified. I read her story at the DS site and was so sad. She was engaged to be married. this surgery is serious and people can die. But you are more likely to die from complications of morbid obesity than the surgery itself. The difference between dieting and the surgery is that you dont have to diet with the surgery. My problem pre-op was that i was a compulsive overeater. i just could not stop. I prayed every day, I would say, God, let me not overeat today, please, please. Then i would go to be so disappointed because I had no control. i am a very disciplined person and excel in most aspects of my life. I just could not maintain any weight loss. With the surgery I have total control. I cannot overeat. It has been the single best decision I have ever made. I am so glad i did this. You have to decide on your own. I was so scared to have surgery. I still cant believe I ever went through with it. I was a wreck. But I would somehow muster up the courage again in a second. Good luck! Jill K in NY Gagner -82 lbs at 16.5 weeks post-op I am no longer morbidly obese, just obese! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hi Joe- I am pre-op like you, so I can't offer any advice for what goes on after the surgery, but I have researched for over a year, and while I am scared of the surgery...and don't want to die...I have to ask myself if I am really living right now or am I just surviving. I would never presume to tell you what to do, but one thought keeps coming back to me; Which is more likely...dying from the surgery or dying from being morbidly obese. I like the odds I get with the surgery better. Tens of thousands of people are dying yearly from illnesses caused by obesity. I read an article on WebMd where they interviewed Dr. Anthone who performs the DS surgery at USC in California. When asked about the mortality rate he explained that many of the deaths are attributed to serious complications the patient had prior to the surgery. Here is the link...it may help calm some fears...it did for me...but between you me and the thousand or so people reading this post...lol....I think I will be scared until I wake up and realize I wasn't a statistic. A little fear is sometimes healthy...I think it will help us make the right choices in surgeon and surgery. http://srd.yahoo.com/goo/duodenal+switch/6/*http://my.webmd.com/conten t/article/1700.50725 Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Hi Joe, I understand your feelings at this point....I am also just starting this process....and extremely nervous about the risks involved. But there is one thing I know for sure....I am living a certain-death If I do not do something about my weight. And after months of research , this surgery makes sense...as the answer ( i know, surgery will not solve all my life-problems, it is just a tool- i still have to do the hard work !) ....Of course, it is risky. But my mental-physical being is also at risk If I attempt one more diet only to gain the weight back. With the prospect of WLS surgery...I have something that I have not experienced in quite a while... I found " hope " . Finally, I can do something {pro-actively) to change my situation....to make plans for a healthier Me ! It is a exciting, yet somewhat nerve racking experience. So what I have done is to make a commitment : I have decided to do everything I can possibily do now........ to improve my chances post-op. I want to be as healthy as I can be..before I lay my body and soul on that operating table! I have started walking ....believe me I am not running marathons....I started walking 5 minutes a day...now I am up to 20 minutes..hopefully, I can increase that week by week. I have made some changes to my " diet " ...I am introducing more protein, reducing some of the fat....taking multi vitamins...eating more fresh veggies.( I hate veggies) Our friends in the DS chat room..have given me wonderful suggestions....Including " start blowing up balloons " ..to help improve your lung capacity...If nothing else, I am having fun preparing for my surgery. I wish you all the best...as you go on your journey....I am sure you will make the right decision for you..... just search your soul-be quiet for awhile - and the answers you are seeking will come to you ! Jordan Hoping and planning for DS Surgery. Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 7:09:41 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << Except now, I supplement that protein with carbs, juices, desserts, fruits, etc etc., whatever fits. As a post op, after I eat my protein, (and water) I'm welcome to add whatever fits, just as I do now. Of course the big difference is, a whole lot less will fit! So in essence, if I end up eating as the Atkins diet, only because I'm full and satisfied, that's fine. That's my understanding of it. >> Sheryl: That has pretty much been my experience. I was on mainly protein for the first three weeks by default because I just couldn't get too much else in. It was almost all DAIRY protein, though (and supplements as well as tuna and some meatballs). Now that I'm six months out, I can eat a good amount (certainly small by pre-op standards and 'normal folk' standards) of carbs with my meal. I honestly don't feel like I'm being 'left out' of anything or not eating anything else to the exclusion of (animal) protein. We went to Outback Steakhouse yesterday evening - talk about HEAVEN. We had to wait an HOUR just to get a seat (the Brooklyn restaurant just opened up - and it was a MONDAY night, folks! LOL). The Ribeye steak was unbelievable... (I had about half and shared with DH) and I had some chicken, rice, potatoes and their wonderful whole grain bread loaded with butter! Oh, it was heavenly! Throw in some fresh cooked mushrooms, onions, zucchini and red pepper and I was quite full! Can you tell I was feeling particularly HUNGRY last night? ROFL This is the same meal I would have had as a pre-op except for two factors: I ate much less than I would have as a pre-op and less carbs just because I got full on the meat faster and (even more important) I am NOT absorbing every calorie that is put in my mouth!!!! About the fatalities, they are really sobering. MY heart goes out to every person mentioned on AMOS (the Obesity Help site) who passed away. Some were pre-surgical while others died as a direct result of the surgery or after the operation due to some complication, etc. All of the people I've read about were RNY but I think that's because the majority of people on the site are RNY folk. I found out a few months after my surgery that one gal who was scheduled the same day as me almost lost her life. She had h-pylori and was worried that she wouldn't get psych approval, etc. so I had thought she didn't get her surgery (or had it postponed) when I looked for her after surgery and didn't find her anywhere. Turns out she was on another floor (that happens at Mt Sinai as well as other hospitals when there's an overload of patients, I guess). She developed a leak, massive systemic infection and went into a coma for a month! Dr. Gagner didn't think she'd make it through. She called me about a few months after the surgery to tell me. I had absolutely NO idea! She had an RNY and lower BMI than myself (mine was 45). In contrast, I sailed through surgery (I was anticipating more pain and problems than I experienced) and have had a remarkable recovery. I know that prayers really played a large part in my recovery but I'm sure people were praying for Nellie as well... IT just sobers you and reinforces the belief that 'there but for the grace of God go I...' all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 1/2 " ) now: 299 lbs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 7:09:41 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << Except now, I supplement that protein with carbs, juices, desserts, fruits, etc etc., whatever fits. As a post op, after I eat my protein, (and water) I'm welcome to add whatever fits, just as I do now. Of course the big difference is, a whole lot less will fit! So in essence, if I end up eating as the Atkins diet, only because I'm full and satisfied, that's fine. That's my understanding of it. >> Sheryl: That has pretty much been my experience. I was on mainly protein for the first three weeks by default because I just couldn't get too much else in. It was almost all DAIRY protein, though (and supplements as well as tuna and some meatballs). Now that I'm six months out, I can eat a good amount (certainly small by pre-op standards and 'normal folk' standards) of carbs with my meal. I honestly don't feel like I'm being 'left out' of anything or not eating anything else to the exclusion of (animal) protein. We went to Outback Steakhouse yesterday evening - talk about HEAVEN. We had to wait an HOUR just to get a seat (the Brooklyn restaurant just opened up - and it was a MONDAY night, folks! LOL). The Ribeye steak was unbelievable... (I had about half and shared with DH) and I had some chicken, rice, potatoes and their wonderful whole grain bread loaded with butter! Oh, it was heavenly! Throw in some fresh cooked mushrooms, onions, zucchini and red pepper and I was quite full! Can you tell I was feeling particularly HUNGRY last night? ROFL This is the same meal I would have had as a pre-op except for two factors: I ate much less than I would have as a pre-op and less carbs just because I got full on the meat faster and (even more important) I am NOT absorbing every calorie that is put in my mouth!!!! About the fatalities, they are really sobering. MY heart goes out to every person mentioned on AMOS (the Obesity Help site) who passed away. Some were pre-surgical while others died as a direct result of the surgery or after the operation due to some complication, etc. All of the people I've read about were RNY but I think that's because the majority of people on the site are RNY folk. I found out a few months after my surgery that one gal who was scheduled the same day as me almost lost her life. She had h-pylori and was worried that she wouldn't get psych approval, etc. so I had thought she didn't get her surgery (or had it postponed) when I looked for her after surgery and didn't find her anywhere. Turns out she was on another floor (that happens at Mt Sinai as well as other hospitals when there's an overload of patients, I guess). She developed a leak, massive systemic infection and went into a coma for a month! Dr. Gagner didn't think she'd make it through. She called me about a few months after the surgery to tell me. I had absolutely NO idea! She had an RNY and lower BMI than myself (mine was 45). In contrast, I sailed through surgery (I was anticipating more pain and problems than I experienced) and have had a remarkable recovery. I know that prayers really played a large part in my recovery but I'm sure people were praying for Nellie as well... IT just sobers you and reinforces the belief that 'there but for the grace of God go I...' all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 1/2 " ) now: 299 lbs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts. I guess I've got some soul searching to do.... Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 excellent keep p the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 excellent keep p the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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