Re: Preschool Tests

[Guest guest]

My son stopped being assessed with the CELF and was started on the PLS-4

when he was about 4.5 years old. It is a pretty standard test and no more

frustrating or stressful for him. And he did equally poor on each test.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:10 AM, nicmat22003 <prabito@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about the Preschool Language Scale test and

> the Clinical Evaluation of Language Fundamentals-Preschool test? My

> son's speech therapist told me she wants to do the Preschool Language

> Scale test instead of the other one (which she usually does) because

> she said it looks at a wider variety of higher level language skills

> than the other one. His IEP is coming up and the school is assessing

> him for Kindergarten, and I'm just a little bit suspicious about why

> she wants to change. She was out of compliance with his last IEP and

> did not give him the # of therapy sessions he was supposed to get.

>

> Patty

>

[Guest guest]

Patty, I think we have (at least one) SLP on our board who may answer

better than me, but the PLS is a pretty basic test. Kids look at pics

and have to point to the correct answer to test their receptive

language (which animal has the longest tail? or which one is the spoon?

or which one is the boy?), then again with pics to look to answer

questions asked of them for the expressive language (what is the boy

doing? (ans - sleeping), label pics (ball, shoe, scissors, etc). My

son went pretty far on the receptive portion, but the expressive the

SLP couldn't understand his speech. I thought his testing would never

end! If the SLP can't understand what they say they don't get credit

(which is how they'll qualify for services, so it's a good thing). The

PLS also has some toys (blocks, a bear) that the SL uses too. They

have to miss so many in order to ceiling out on a portion (I want to

say 3 in a row, but that could be wrong). I am not familiar with the

other test you asked about. I would also ask if the SLP is going to do

a phonology test with your son, especially if his receptive language is

good, and only has difficulties with his expressive (in OH kids can't

qualify in just one area (articualtion) unless it's severe (3 standard

deviations below the mean), so you'd need a phonology test to back that

data up, which I'm sure your SLP knows.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, what is OH? She didn't mention a phonology test, but I

will definitely ask her. He has trouble pronouncing multisyllabic

words and v sounds. Thanks for the advice. And thank you all for

your feedback

Patty

>

> Patty, I think we have (at least one) SLP on our board who may

answer

> better than me, but the PLS is a pretty basic test. Kids look at

pics

> and have to point to the correct answer to test their receptive

> language (which animal has the longest tail? or which one is the

spoon?

> or which one is the boy?), then again with pics to look to answer

> questions asked of them for the expressive language (what is the

boy

> doing? (ans - sleeping), label pics (ball, shoe, scissors, etc).

My

> son went pretty far on the receptive portion, but the expressive

the

> SLP couldn't understand his speech. I thought his testing would

never

> end! If the SLP can't understand what they say they don't get

credit

> (which is how they'll qualify for services, so it's a good thing).

The

> PLS also has some toys (blocks, a bear) that the SL uses too. They

> have to miss so many in order to ceiling out on a portion (I want

to

> say 3 in a row, but that could be wrong). I am not familiar with

the

> other test you asked about. I would also ask if the SLP is going to

do

> a phonology test with your son, especially if his receptive

language is

> good, and only has difficulties with his expressive (in OH kids

can't

> qualify in just one area (articualtion) unless it's severe (3

standard

> deviations below the mean), so you'd need a phonology test to back

that

> data up, which I'm sure your SLP knows.

> Bonnie

>