Re: arrrgh Toy Recall- I am SO ANNOYED

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just read about it too-very scary!

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In a message dated 11/8/2007 12:51:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

If you really want to go nuts, think about the lunacy of antimony.

Someone smokes in their bed and gets on fire. Next thing you know we

are all soaking in harsh chemicals to prevent that when we might very

well be healthier burning

<sigh> I know-- not to mention all the chemicals in clothing (pajamas,

too!) and the carpets

arrrrgh-- it drives me INSANE.

Becky

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In a message dated 11/8/2007 2:30:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I agree with you. I will be out and see cute things for the kids but if it

says it was made in China, I don't buy it. And when you start to look you

realize almost everything for kids is made in China! My six year old was asking

for the Aquadots. I am so relieved I hadn't bought them. Especially since my

one daughter will still occasionally pop a piece of a toy in her mouth.

Reading that recall scares the crap out of me thinking what could have

happened.

I can imagine! Seriously-- I think that *MOST* kids would pop one of those

things in their mouth to just chew on or experiment with what it feels like.

Kids are normal and kids are KIDS-- and it just makes sense that the

majority of them might try it out because they are cool looking and most kids I

know

will chew and gnaw on things just BECAUSE.

the whole thing is just scary

Becky

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I am with you but the truth is we have to demand quality and be

willing to pay for it. Every therapist who came into my house brought

(what I believe to be) leadridden stuff along with cheap plastic blow

toys. That was fine for an hour a week but I sought out healthier

options and could not find them. There has to be demand for good

supply. Also, there are import rules that do not leave it up to the

foreign mfr to determine safety...we just have to crackdown and

enforce this stuff. Again, letters to politicians and manufacturers

are the way to go.

We need to be smart too.

If you really want to go nuts, think about the lunacy of antimony.

Someone smokes in their bed and gets on fire. Next thing you know we

are all soaking in harsh chemicals to prevent that when we might very

well be healthier burning.

>

> I just wanted to vent quickly, because I am so DARNED tired of all

these toy

> recalls, and I just have to say SOMETHING before I blow!

>

>

> I was reading about the Aqua Dots recall (something I actually

was going to

> get for Tom's niece in Canada-- thank God I didn't!) I read the

comment

> below, in combination with another part of the article, and it

just ticks me off

> terribly. Maybe I'm the only one?

> Here's what bugs me:

>

>

>

> >Byrne, a New York-based toy consultant, noted that the

incidents

> could have been isolated, and Spin >Master may be erring on the

side of caution.

>

> > " This is something that they could not have foreseen. This is an

extremely

> hot toy. ... It's a little scary, " >Byrne said.

>

> Then this:

>

> >Scientists say a chemical coating on the beads, when ingested,

metabolizes

> into the so-called date rape >drug gamma hydroxy butyrate. When

eaten, the

> compound - made from common and easily available >ingredients -

can induce

> unconsciousness, seizures, drowsiness, coma and death.

>

>

> Ok, so they KNEW That there was a chemical coating on these beads,

and they

> KNOW that the chemical, when ingested or eaten, will cause serious

problems.

> Are they so stupid to think that no baby or toddler or young child

WON'T

> either accidentally ingest/eat these beads?? They can't be THAT

stupid-- really!

> So if they KNEW That these things had a chemical coating on them

in the

> FIRST place-- why on EARTH would they even release the toy???

What is wrong with

> the toy safety in this country?? <sigh>

> Sorry-- but stuff like this is just so preventable and it's so

unnecessary

> for them to even make these products with chemicals, let alone

release and

> SELL Them! arrrrgh

> When will they learn?

>

>

> Then we add the below scenario to the toy issues, and it just bugs

me BEYOND

> BELIEF. Yup-- I'm screaming, can anyone hear me? LOL I just

think that

> America is so stupid for outsourcing what they do in the first

place, but to

> outsource the making of toys, which is one of the most sensitive

things for

> children's safety, <sigh> I just don't get it. I mean, is anyone

else here

> surprised that China is making American toys with cheap paints and

cheap products

> that have lead in them? I'm not the smartest cookie in town, but

at least

> *I* can even guess that they won't be looking to use better (aka

more

> expensive) products just to be sure that American kids are safe.

This has got to be

> one of my biggest pet peeves though--sorry for the ranting, I just

cannot

> wrap my mind around WHY the American government allows all of this

to happen to

> our children! All to save a little money???? Is it really worth

it?

>

>

> >Meanwhile, a separate recall was announced for 405,000 children's

products

> made in China, most of them >toy cars, because of dangerous levels

of lead.

>

> >The recall includes about 380,000 Pull-Back Action Toy Cars

imported by

> Dollar General Merchandising >Inc. of Goodlettsville, Tenn., and

7,500 Dragster

> and Funny Car toys imported by International Sourcing Ltd. >of

Springfield,

> Mo.

>

>

>

>

> On a sidenote, I was going to be ordering some of the pull-back

action toy

> cars for Asa for Christmas- I figured it would help him with his

fine motor

> skills and give some fun, too! I'm thinking I'll find something

else,

> obviously! LOL

>

> again-- sorry for the rant, but I just HAD to say it to SOMEone

before I

> burst!

>

> Becky

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sunday NYTimes oped piece discussed the Consumer Product Safety

Commission - Ms. Nord, chairwoman of said, joined with injdustry

lobbysits in opposing a Senate bill intended to strenghtened

her " enfeebled agency " (they have only one full time toy tester). She

and her predecessor also took free trips from the toy industry - one

to China.

She has argued for voluntary compliance and self policing - echoing

the views of the toy industry.

This agency does not have to make consumers compliants public -

something the National Transportation Safety admin has to do with

autos. Complaints and even results of " internal investigations " are

kept secret " while industry has weeks or longer to respond. Works for

industry, but not for the consumer " .

My son is full of Lead - how about your's? I actually wondered out

loud where the lead came from until I realized bowls, plates,

lunchboxes as well as other typical toys are covered in it. So the

country drowns under the weight of medical care for all these people

poisoned by lead and mercury while at the same time it fights for the

industries that did the poisoning so that they don't pay taxes OR

fines. Something is wrong people!

ahem...getting off my soapbox.

>

> I just wanted to vent quickly, because I am so DARNED tired of all

these toy

> recalls, and I just have to say SOMETHING before I blow!

>

>

> I was reading about the Aqua Dots recall (something I actually

was going to

> get for Tom's niece in Canada-- thank God I didn't!) I read the

comment

> below, in combination with another part of the article, and it

just ticks me off

> terribly. Maybe I'm the only one?

> Here's what bugs me:

>

>

>

> >Byrne, a New York-based toy consultant, noted that the

incidents

> could have been isolated, and Spin >Master may be erring on the

side of caution.

>

> > " This is something that they could not have foreseen. This is an

extremely

> hot toy. ... It's a little scary, " >Byrne said.

>

> Then this:

>

> >Scientists say a chemical coating on the beads, when ingested,

metabolizes

> into the so-called date rape >drug gamma hydroxy butyrate. When

eaten, the

> compound - made from common and easily available >ingredients -

can induce

> unconsciousness, seizures, drowsiness, coma and death.

>

>

> Ok, so they KNEW That there was a chemical coating on these beads,

and they

> KNOW that the chemical, when ingested or eaten, will cause serious

problems.

> Are they so stupid to think that no baby or toddler or young child

WON'T

> either accidentally ingest/eat these beads?? They can't be THAT

stupid-- really!

> So if they KNEW That these things had a chemical coating on them

in the

> FIRST place-- why on EARTH would they even release the toy???

What is wrong with

> the toy safety in this country?? <sigh>

> Sorry-- but stuff like this is just so preventable and it's so

unnecessary

> for them to even make these products with chemicals, let alone

release and

> SELL Them! arrrrgh

> When will they learn?

>

>

> Then we add the below scenario to the toy issues, and it just bugs

me BEYOND

> BELIEF. Yup-- I'm screaming, can anyone hear me? LOL I just

think that

> America is so stupid for outsourcing what they do in the first

place, but to

> outsource the making of toys, which is one of the most sensitive

things for

> children's safety, <sigh> I just don't get it. I mean, is anyone

else here

> surprised that China is making American toys with cheap paints and

cheap products

> that have lead in them? I'm not the smartest cookie in town, but

at least

> *I* can even guess that they won't be looking to use better (aka

more

> expensive) products just to be sure that American kids are safe.

This has got to be

> one of my biggest pet peeves though--sorry for the ranting, I just

cannot

> wrap my mind around WHY the American government allows all of this

to happen to

> our children! All to save a little money???? Is it really worth

it?

>

>

> >Meanwhile, a separate recall was announced for 405,000 children's

products

> made in China, most of them >toy cars, because of dangerous levels

of lead.

>

> >The recall includes about 380,000 Pull-Back Action Toy Cars

imported by

> Dollar General Merchandising >Inc. of Goodlettsville, Tenn., and

7,500 Dragster

> and Funny Car toys imported by International Sourcing Ltd. >of

Springfield,

> Mo.

>

>

>

>

> On a sidenote, I was going to be ordering some of the pull-back

action toy

> cars for Asa for Christmas- I figured it would help him with his

fine motor

> skills and give some fun, too! I'm thinking I'll find something

else,

> obviously! LOL

>

> again-- sorry for the rant, but I just HAD to say it to SOMEone

before I

> burst!

>

> Becky

>

>

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>

>

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I agree with you. I will be out and see cute things for the kids but if it says

it was made in China, I don't buy it. And when you start to look you realize

almost everything for kids is made in China! My six year old was asking for the

Aquadots. I am so relieved I hadn't bought them. Especially since my one

daughter will still occasionally pop a piece of a toy in her mouth. Reading

that recall scares the crap out of me thinking what could have happened.

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From: tbniesh@...

I just wanted to vent quickly, because I am so DARNED tired of all these toy

recalls, and I just have to say SOMETHING before I blow!

I was reading about the Aqua Dots recall (something I actually was going to

get for Tom's niece in Canada-- thank God I didn't!) I read the comment

below, in combination with another part of the article, and it just ticks me off

terribly. Maybe I'm the only one?

Here's what bugs me:

>Byrne, a New York-based toy consultant, noted that the incidents

could have been isolated, and Spin >Master may be erring on the side of caution.

> " This is something that they could not have foreseen. This is an extremely

hot toy. ... It's a little scary, " >Byrne said.

Then this:

>Scientists say a chemical coating on the beads, when ingested, metabolizes

into the so-called date rape >drug gamma hydroxy butyrate. When eaten, the

compound - made from common and easily available >ingredients - can induce

unconsciousness, seizures, drowsiness, coma and death.

Ok, so they KNEW That there was a chemical coating on these beads, and they

KNOW that the chemical, when ingested or eaten, will cause serious problems.

Are they so stupid to think that no baby or toddler or young child WON'T

either accidentally ingest/eat these beads?? They can't be THAT stupid-- really!

So if they KNEW That these things had a chemical coating on them in the

FIRST place-- why on EARTH would they even release the toy??? What is wrong with

the toy safety in this country?? <sigh>

Sorry-- but stuff like this is just so preventable and it's so unnecessary

for them to even make these products with chemicals, let alone release and

SELL Them! arrrrgh

When will they learn?

Then we add the below scenario to the toy issues, and it just bugs me BEYOND

BELIEF. Yup-- I'm screaming, can anyone hear me? LOL I just think that

America is so stupid for outsourcing what they do in the first place, but to

outsource the making of toys, which is one of the most sensitive things for

children's safety, <sigh> I just don't get it. I mean, is anyone else here

surprised that China is making American toys with cheap paints and cheap

products

that have lead in them? I'm not the smartest cookie in town, but at least

*I* can even guess that they won't be looking to use better (aka more

expensive) products just to be sure that American kids are safe. This has got to

be

one of my biggest pet peeves though--sorry for the ranting, I just cannot

wrap my mind around WHY the American government allows all of this to happen to

our children! All to save a little money???? Is it really worth it?

>Meanwhile, a separate recall was announced for 405,000 children's products

made in China, most of them >toy cars, because of dangerous levels of lead.

>The recall includes about 380,000 Pull-Back Action Toy Cars imported by

Dollar General Merchandising >Inc. of Goodlettsville, Tenn., and 7,500 Dragster

and Funny Car toys imported by International Sourcing Ltd. >of Springfield,

Mo.

On a sidenote, I was going to be ordering some of the pull-back action toy

cars for Asa for Christmas- I figured it would help him with his fine motor

skills and give some fun, too! I'm thinking I'll find something else,

obviously! LOL

again-- sorry for the rant, but I just HAD to say it to SOMEone before I

burst!

Becky

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We really should just throw all the toys out. We

should not buy anymore for several years. (sure) I tis

obvious that ALL the tyos from China are contaminated.

They just won't admit it.

--- klbushey@... wrote:

> I agree with you. I will be out and see cute things

> for the kids but if it says it was made in China, I

> don't buy it. And when you start to look you

> realize almost everything for kids is made in China!

> My six year old was asking for the Aquadots. I am

> so relieved I hadn't bought them. Especially since

> my one daughter will still occasionally pop a piece

> of a toy in her mouth. Reading that recall scares

> the crap out of me thinking what could have

> happened.

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: tbniesh@...

> I just wanted to vent quickly, because I am so

> DARNED tired of all these toy

> recalls, and I just have to say SOMETHING before I

> blow!

>

>

> I was reading about the Aqua Dots recall (something

> I actually was going to

> get for Tom's niece in Canada-- thank God I didn't!)

> I read the comment

> below, in combination with another part of the

> article, and it just ticks me off

> terribly. Maybe I'm the only one?

> Here's what bugs me:

>

>

>

> >Byrne, a New York-based toy consultant, noted

> that the incidents

> could have been isolated, and Spin >Master may be

> erring on the side of caution.

>

> > " This is something that they could not have

> foreseen. This is an extremely

> hot toy. ... It's a little scary, " >Byrne said.

>

> Then this:

>

> >Scientists say a chemical coating on the beads,

> when ingested, metabolizes

> into the so-called date rape >drug gamma hydroxy

> butyrate. When eaten, the

> compound - made from common and easily available

> >ingredients - can induce

> unconsciousness, seizures, drowsiness, coma and

> death.

>

>

> Ok, so they KNEW That there was a chemical coating

> on these beads, and they

> KNOW that the chemical, when ingested or eaten, will

> cause serious problems.

> Are they so stupid to think that no baby or toddler

> or young child WON'T

> either accidentally ingest/eat these beads?? They

> can't be THAT stupid-- really!

> So if they KNEW That these things had a chemical

> coating on them in the

> FIRST place-- why on EARTH would they even release

> the toy??? What is wrong with

> the toy safety in this country?? <sigh>

> Sorry-- but stuff like this is just so preventable

> and it's so unnecessary

> for them to even make these products with chemicals,

> let alone release and

> SELL Them! arrrrgh

> When will they learn?

>

>

> Then we add the below scenario to the toy issues,

> and it just bugs me BEYOND

> BELIEF. Yup-- I'm screaming, can anyone hear me? LOL

> I just think that

> America is so stupid for outsourcing what they do in

> the first place, but to

> outsource the making of toys, which is one of the

> most sensitive things for

> children's safety, <sigh> I just don't get it. I

> mean, is anyone else here

> surprised that China is making American toys with

> cheap paints and cheap products

> that have lead in them? I'm not the smartest cookie

> in town, but at least

> *I* can even guess that they won't be looking to use

> better (aka more

> expensive) products just to be sure that American

> kids are safe. This has got to be

> one of my biggest pet peeves though--sorry for the

> ranting, I just cannot

> wrap my mind around WHY the American government

> allows all of this to happen to

> our children! All to save a little money???? Is it

> really worth it?

>

> >Meanwhile, a separate recall was announced for

> 405,000 children's products

> made in China, most of them >toy cars, because of

> dangerous levels of lead.

>

> >The recall includes about 380,000 Pull-Back Action

> Toy Cars imported by

> Dollar General Merchandising >Inc. of

> Goodlettsville, Tenn., and 7,500 Dragster

> and Funny Car toys imported by International

> Sourcing Ltd. >of Springfield,

> Mo.

>

> On a sidenote, I was going to be ordering some of

> the pull-back action toy

> cars for Asa for Christmas- I figured it would help

> him with his fine motor

> skills and give some fun, too! I'm thinking I'll

> find something else,

> obviously! LOL

>

> again-- sorry for the rant, but I just HAD to say it

> to SOMEone before I

> burst!

>

> Becky

>

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did you hear about the newest curios george recall WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING

TOO? What toys are we supposed to buy??? My 6 yo puts everything in his mouth

SLP says he is just reaching that milestone. I am afraid that this world is not

safe from anything they are poisoning our greatest assets ....our children!!

right at Christmas time too what are we supposed to do?

GracieAnn

[ ] arrrgh Toy Recall- I am SO ANNOYED

I just wanted to vent quickly, because I am so DARNED tired of all these toy

recalls, and I just have to say SOMETHING before I blow!

I was reading about the Aqua Dots recall (something I actually was going to

get for Tom's niece in Canada-- thank God I didn't!) I read the comment

below, in combination with another part of the article, and it just ticks me

off

terribly. Maybe I'm the only one?

Here's what bugs me:

>Byrne, a New York-based toy consultant, noted that the incidents

could have been isolated, and Spin >Master may be erring on the side of

caution.

> " This is something that they could not have foreseen. This is an extremely

hot toy. ... It's a little scary, " >Byrne said.

Then this:

>Scientists say a chemical coating on the beads, when ingested, metabolizes

into the so-called date rape >drug gamma hydroxy butyrate. When eaten, the

compound - made from common and easily available >ingredients - can induce

unconsciousness, seizures, drowsiness, coma and death.

Ok, so they KNEW That there was a chemical coating on these beads, and they

KNOW that the chemical, when ingested or eaten, will cause serious problems.

Are they so stupid to think that no baby or toddler or young child WON'T

either accidentally ingest/eat these beads?? They can't be THAT stupid--

really!

So if they KNEW That these things had a chemical coating on them in the

FIRST place-- why on EARTH would they even release the toy??? What is wrong

with

the toy safety in this country?? <sigh>

Sorry-- but stuff like this is just so preventable and it's so unnecessary

for them to even make these products with chemicals, let alone release and

SELL Them! arrrrgh

When will they learn?

Then we add the below scenario to the toy issues, and it just bugs me BEYOND

BELIEF. Yup-- I'm screaming, can anyone hear me? LOL I just think that

America is so stupid for outsourcing what they do in the first place, but to

outsource the making of toys, which is one of the most sensitive things for

children's safety, <sigh> I just don't get it. I mean, is anyone else here

surprised that China is making American toys with cheap paints and cheap

products

that have lead in them? I'm not the smartest cookie in town, but at least

*I* can even guess that they won't be looking to use better (aka more

expensive) products just to be sure that American kids are safe. This has got

to be

one of my biggest pet peeves though--sorry for the ranting, I just cannot

wrap my mind around WHY the American government allows all of this to happen

to

our children! All to save a little money???? Is it really worth it?

>Meanwhile, a separate recall was announced for 405,000 children's products

made in China, most of them >toy cars, because of dangerous levels of lead.

>The recall includes about 380,000 Pull-Back Action Toy Cars imported by

Dollar General Merchandising >Inc. of Goodlettsville, Tenn., and 7,500

Dragster

and Funny Car toys imported by International Sourcing Ltd. >of Springfield,

Mo.

On a sidenote, I was going to be ordering some of the pull-back action toy

cars for Asa for Christmas- I figured it would help him with his fine motor

skills and give some fun, too! I'm thinking I'll find something else,

obviously! LOL

again-- sorry for the rant, but I just HAD to say it to SOMEone before I

burst!

Becky

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We recently bought a cool off-road version of a little red wagon from

this company:

http://www.durabletoys.com

It was made by Amish people in the USA. The wagon is totally cool, and

gets lots of attention from other parents when we are towing the little

ones around in it. We also got the optional sunshade, which makes it

look a bit like a conestoga wagon that the pioneers used.

The reason I am mentioning this company in this thread, is that on their

main webpage you can search for toys. One of the pulldown menus is

labled " categories " . Two of the entries in the category field are " made

in the USA " and " made in Germany " ; both countries where you can worry

less about things like lead in the paint.

-jimk

klbushey@... wrote:

>

> I agree with you. I will be out and see cute things for the kids but

> if it says it was made in China, I don't buy it. And when you start to

> look you realize almost everything for kids is made in China! My six

> year old was asking for the Aquadots. I am so relieved I hadn't bought

> them. Especially since my one daughter will still occasionally pop a

> piece of a toy in her mouth. Reading that recall scares the crap out

> of me thinking what could have happened.

>

>

>

> -

>

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thanks for the link to the Durable Toys site, Jim, I appreciate it!

We are always looking for a company that makes and sells American made

products

Becky

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That's a very nice wagon!

I bought my 4yo a Mr. 's Trolley

(http://www.holgatetoy.com/Products/Classic-Trolley__HZ6161.aspx

) for Christmas.

It's made in the USA from components made in the USA. The wood is

from PA and the paint is made here too:

There are no foreign components in our products. Everything is US

made and Manufactured to the strickest of standards. We excced US

requirements for safetly. Our paints are NON TOXIC! USA

Here's another link for things made in the USA:

http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/shoppingindex.html

> >

> > I agree with you. I will be out and see cute things for the kids

but

> > if it says it was made in China, I don't buy it. And when you

start to

> > look you realize almost everything for kids is made in China! My

six

> > year old was asking for the Aquadots. I am so relieved I hadn't

bought

> > them. Especially since my one daughter will still occasionally

pop a

> > piece of a toy in her mouth. Reading that recall scares the crap

out

> > of me thinking what could have happened.

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

>