Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! Kim with 4 cuties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Masking: The purpose of masking is to increase oxygen flow to the brain. This is done by making use of the gasp reflex. How to: Take a sandwich baggie (I like these as they are soft and flexible) and put over the the child's mouth and nose ensuring that there is no air getting in. Have the child inhale/exhale into the baggie for a period of 45 seconds. Remove the mask. What we want to see: we want to see the child take a 'gasp' of air upon removal and then begin to breathe normally. If there is no gasp and he can breathe normally right away, then we need to increase the amount of time that we use the mask. If the child gasps and then takes a while to get to normal breathing, then we have used the mask for too long and need to reduce the time. Masking needs to be done with care. A child should never be left wearing the mask unattended or have the mask left on for extended periods. The parent should have a clock with a second hand that they are carefully using throughout this process. For Mark, we would use the mask for about 55 seconds with optimum results. We were to mask for 10 times in a session for 3 sessions per day. Results that I saw: Marks face began to fill out and he lost that pale, wan quality that he always carried with him. His general fitness level increased and his body (chest area) began to fill out and increase in size. He began to look like a healthy child rather than a scarecrow. I cannot remember all of the scientific information as to which specific items are affected as I returned my program information cd's (which is where the scientific information was located) to NACD when we had a new appointment and we did masking last November. It goes something like this: when we breathe in carbon dioxide, the gasp reflex is stimulated so that when we take our next breath of air, we take it deeply into our lungs and increase oxygen flow to the blood supply and brain. There is more to this then that but I cannot remember the exact words and don't want to misinform. I used to have some literature on it kicking around which explains it more precisely and scientificly and if it ever resurfaces (I may have tossed it); I will write it out for you. BUT... we dropped this exercise because Mark absolutely hated it and so did I. We ended up increasing our daily aerobic activity instead. While this does not produce effects as quickly as masking, the long-term results are the same.... increased oxygen flow to the brain on a regular basis. However, I do now realize how good this exercise can be, particularly with a really weak child. We need to increase the oxygen intake for many of our children as oxygen feeds and heals the brain. Note also that swimming underwater can also stimulate the gasp reflex. Janice [sPAM] [ ] Masking Question - Janice or anyone who knows Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! Kim with 4 cuties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thanks for the reply, Janice. Let me make sure I have this right. Have the child mask for 45 secs (+/-), remove the mask, wait a little bit, then repeat. So for each session you do it 3 times in a row, and you do 10 sessions a day. Is that right? Kim Janice <jscott@...> wrote: Masking: The purpose of masking is to increase oxygen flow to the brain. This is done by making use of the gasp reflex. How to: Take a sandwich baggie (I like these as they are soft and flexible) and put over the the child's mouth and nose ensuring that there is no air getting in. Have the child inhale/exhale into the baggie for a period of 45 seconds. Remove the mask. What we want to see: we want to see the child take a 'gasp' of air upon removal and then begin to breathe normally. If there is no gasp and he can breathe normally right away, then we need to increase the amount of time that we use the mask. If the child gasps and then takes a while to get to normal breathing, then we have used the mask for too long and need to reduce the time. Masking needs to be done with care. A child should never be left wearing the mask unattended or have the mask left on for extended periods. The parent should have a clock with a second hand that they are carefully using throughout this process. For Mark, we would use the mask for about 55 seconds with optimum results. We were to mask for 10 times in a session for 3 sessions per day. Results that I saw: Marks face began to fill out and he lost that pale, wan quality that he always carried with him. His general fitness level increased and his body (chest area) began to fill out and increase in size. He began to look like a healthy child rather than a scarecrow. I cannot remember all of the scientific information as to which specific items are affected as I returned my program information cd's (which is where the scientific information was located) to NACD when we had a new appointment and we did masking last November. It goes something like this: when we breathe in carbon dioxide, the gasp reflex is stimulated so that when we take our next breath of air, we take it deeply into our lungs and increase oxygen flow to the blood supply and brain. There is more to this then that but I cannot remember the exact words and don't want to misinform. I used to have some literature on it kicking around which explains it more precisely and scientificly and if it ever resurfaces (I may have tossed it); I will write it out for you. BUT... we dropped this exercise because Mark absolutely hated it and so did I. We ended up increasing our daily aerobic activity instead. While this does not produce effects as quickly as masking, the long-term results are the same.... increased oxygen flow to the brain on a regular basis. However, I do now realize how good this exercise can be, particularly with a really weak child. We need to increase the oxygen intake for many of our children as oxygen feeds and heals the brain. Note also that swimming underwater can also stimulate the gasp reflex. Janice [sPAM] [ ] Masking Question - Janice or anyone who knows Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! Kim with 4 cuties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 We looked into masking when we started working with some patterning folks. We were prescribed maskings of 25 seconds x 5 per session (2 minutes in between each masking) 3 sessions a day. We did not continue with that therapy (or any of the patterning b/c it was to time and physically intensive for us at that time. We may consider it now that our son can respond to requests, etc. > > Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), > > I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! > > Kim with 4 cuties > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Kim, You do 10 times (mask 10 times in one session). We only ever made it to 5 sets before rebellion set in. You do 3 times a day but.... thus 10 masks of 45 to 55 seconds= 1 session. Do 3 sessions per day. I think that you can mix and match you schedule and it will still work the same. If you do it too many times in one session, then you will get rebellion as I did with Mark and it will be 'game over' forever.... So better to start slowly and work up your frequencies over time. Use your common sense and look for getting that gasp reflex. For Mark, 45 seconds was simply not enough. Today, he could probably go for well over a minute (even a minute and a half perhaps). So it is a variable item depending on the current capacity of the child, size and weight. Let me know how it goes for you. I am curious. This is one exercise that we should have kept on with but have done okay without it. How is Garret doing these days? Mark is getting better and better with each passing day, though we did have a yeast flare up this morning. (darn...) Have you had a nice summer? Janice [sPAM] [ ] Masking Question - Janice or anyone who knows Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! Kim with 4 cuties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Kim What is Masking? Kathy ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Janice, Glad to hear Mark is doing so well. I hope the school year goes smoothly for both of you. Garrick was doing great until the beginning of July, then he got hit by a major virus which eventually turned into a major infection. It took him over a month to recover and we still aren't back up to where we were. Sigh.... He was doing so fabulous before and it makes it that much harder to see him struggling again. Physically he is starting to get back up to speed, but his speech has really regressed and doesn't seem to be improving at the moment. We've also been busy and haven't been doing nearly as much therapy stuff as usual. I plan to really get back with the program after the (U.S.) 3 day weekend. Hopefully we can get him functioning better again. I've known about the CO2 thing for over a year, but only found out about masking a few months ago. I was just never quite sure how to specifically do it. We may start trying this next week. Thanks! Kim Janice <jscott@...> wrote: Kim, You do 10 times (mask 10 times in one session). We only ever made it to 5 sets before rebellion set in. You do 3 times a day but.... thus 10 masks of 45 to 55 seconds= 1 session. Do 3 sessions per day. I think that you can mix and match you schedule and it will still work the same. If you do it too many times in one session, then you will get rebellion as I did with Mark and it will be 'game over' forever.... So better to start slowly and work up your frequencies over time. Use your common sense and look for getting that gasp reflex. For Mark, 45 seconds was simply not enough. Today, he could probably go for well over a minute (even a minute and a half perhaps). So it is a variable item depending on the current capacity of the child, size and weight. Let me know how it goes for you. I am curious. This is one exercise that we should have kept on with but have done okay without it. How is Garret doing these days? Mark is getting better and better with each passing day, though we did have a yeast flare up this morning. (darn...) Have you had a nice summer? Janice [sPAM] [ ] Masking Question - Janice or anyone who knows Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! Kim with 4 cuties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 - If you are continually rebreathing into a sealed bag, aren't you actually increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the bag, and subsequently increasing the amount of carbon dioxide delivered to the body? -- In , " Janice " <jscott@...> wrote: > > Masking: > > The purpose of masking is to increase oxygen flow to the brain. This is done by making use of the gasp reflex. > > How to: Take a sandwich baggie (I like these as they are soft and flexible) and put over the the child's mouth and nose ensuring that there is no air getting in. Have the child inhale/exhale into the baggie for a period of 45 seconds. Remove the mask. What we want to see: we want to see the child take a 'gasp' of air upon removal and then begin to breathe normally. If there is no gasp and he can breathe normally right away, then we need to increase the amount of time that we use the mask. If the child gasps and then takes a while to get to normal breathing, then we have used the mask for too long and need to reduce the time. > > Masking needs to be done with care. A child should never be left wearing the mask unattended or have the mask left on for extended periods. The parent should have a clock with a second hand that they are carefully using throughout this process. > > For Mark, we would use the mask for about 55 seconds with optimum results. We were to mask for 10 times in a session for 3 sessions per day. > > Results that I saw: Marks face began to fill out and he lost that pale, wan quality that he always carried with him. His general fitness level increased and his body (chest area) began to fill out and increase in size. He began to look like a healthy child rather than a scarecrow. > > I cannot remember all of the scientific information as to which specific items are affected as I returned my program information cd's (which is where the scientific information was located) to NACD when we had a new appointment and we did masking last November. > > It goes something like this: when we breathe in carbon dioxide, the gasp reflex is stimulated so that when we take our next breath of air, we take it deeply into our lungs and increase oxygen flow to the blood supply and brain. There is more to this then that but I cannot remember the exact words and don't want to misinform. I used to have some literature on it kicking around which explains it more precisely and scientificly and if it ever resurfaces (I may have tossed it); I will write it out for you. > > BUT... we dropped this exercise because Mark absolutely hated it and so did I. We ended up increasing our daily aerobic activity instead. While this does not produce effects as quickly as masking, the long-term results are the same.... increased oxygen flow to the brain on a regular basis. > > However, I do now realize how good this exercise can be, particularly with a really weak child. We need to increase the oxygen intake for many of our children as oxygen feeds and heals the brain. Note also that swimming underwater can also stimulate the gasp reflex. > > Janice > > > > [sPAM] [ ] Masking Question - Janice or anyone who knows > > > Hey Janice (or anyone else who can answer this), > > I've been wanting to do masking with Garrick but would like some specifics on how often and for how long each session. Thanks for any info! > > Kim with 4 cuties > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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