Re: NACD - Light in the eyes

[Guest guest]

Could you describe those other organizations you mentioned and tell

where they are located? Until recently, I did not know these places

existed. (Not a single doctor or therapist ever suggested this when

I asked, " What can I do at home? " ) I think it is important for

people to be able to compare and contrast the various options out

there.

in NJ

>

> Speaking of therapy -is this NACD and why do they shine the light

in

> the child's eyes?!

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs6IQnwyzI & feature=related

>

> --------------------------------

> I took a look at this video and many of the others in the series of

this one child.

>

> I preface my response by saying that for 3 years my kids do follow

neurological organization programs (which is the generic umbrella

name for the neurodevelopmental therapies offered by companies such

as NACD, INPP, IAHP and others - note NACD is not the " only " company

to offer these services). We are not followed by any direct " NACD "

led program, although the programs that we do are prepared and

followed by a INPP-type clinic with direct ties to Temple Fay, Glenn

Doman, INPP etc. I do not know, obviously, what the mother in that

video was instructed to do or if what she was doing is her

interpretation of what she was told vs doing actually what she was

told to do.

>

> My eldest son has functional issues with his pupillary reflex where

his pupils remain dilated even in bright light sometimes and they do

not dilate/constrict at a normal velocity. Part of this was the

negative opiate influence of casein. Once casein was reduced with

enzymes we saw improvement but the problem persists. We are unable

to totally remove casein, though we did finally succeed doing so for

2 months last year - but I have an excessively selective eater and to

keep a complicated story short, we had to reintro it or let him

starve to death.

>

> When the pupils do not respond correctly or adequately to changes

in lightness and darkness it make focusing (i.e. vision) difficult

and negatively impacts the visual input of information. Think about

how your own eyes go into tilt if you've been out in bright son and

you return inside the house and they don't adapt quickly to the

darker environment or from a dark room to bright light and you are

temporarily " blind " . That reaction really inhibits your ability to

function - at least temporarily, doesn't it?

>

> In any case, the real point of this email is to explain that there

is an excercise using a penlight (not a regular flashlight) but what

we have been instructed to do does not resemble remotely how the

pupil light therapy was shown in that YouTube video. The therapy

itself is to excercise the pupillary reflex...triggering a

constriction of the pupil - like a muscle workout. We have been

told to use a pen light with a light bulb that is not more powerful

than 3 watts (the one we have is only 1,5 and it's intense)...you

should not use a laser penlight. The actual therapy, for us, is to

point the light at one eye for 1 second - only 1 second, alternating

to the other eye after 5 seconds of rest for not more than a combined

total of 1 minute for the entire session. The light should not be

placed close to the eye either. It is preferential to perform the

therapy in semi-darkness or darkness but can be performed in a

lighted room - it all depends on the severity and individual

condition of the patient. We repeat this therapy more than once a

day but I prefer not to post our individual program in detail as it

is a therapy customized for my son and really should not be done

unless it is needed and tailored to the child. It does help.

>

> We had just restarted the program 2 weeks ago but had to suspend

the penlight therapy when my son got a fever and flu. When the child

is ill or not feeling well, the therapies are usually stopped until

they are better. Of course, when to stop and restart I am in direct

consulation with his NDT (neurodevelopmental therapist) -- I don't

make those decisions all on my own.

>

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[Guest guest]

Did you get my email on this....

I will restate.

This youtube video is obviously a video designed for someone abroad (such as

India or Guatamala) to be seen by an evaluator for the video evaluation thus the

evaluator knows how the flashlight is set up. This is called Pleoptics and has

been around for a long, long time and is used by vision therapists as well.

The flashlight has a penny glued to the center. You bring it close to the

childs eye so that the penny covers the macula of the eye completely and the

light just shines to the outer edges of the eye. Hold for 3 seconds and remove

for 8 seconds, proceed to the other eye (always begin with the dominant eye

first).

We did this exercise with Mark for 3 months 2 times daily for 2 minutes per

session to reduce his tendency to over-utilize his periferal vision. Mark

always seemed so disjointed; his head was traveling in one direction and his

body was traveling in another. This was because he was looking out of his

periferal vision rather than using his central vision most of the time. This

seemed to be limited to when he was moving not when he was working or doing

close work such as reading. He also had trouble seeing an object on a

cluttered desk because he would sweep over the desk with his periferal vision

rather than his central vision and thus miss a lot of minor details of life!

I am considering doing this exercise a little more as I see a bit of eye stuff

going on particularly when Mark is playing sports.... that old periferal vision

crops up a little and I want to get rid of it completely. I want fantastic and

amazing central detail vision!

Yet, this hyper-periferal vision is what allows him to be such an amazing

reader; his eyes are able to grab the edges of a word and he can speed read

while retaining comprehension. I wonder if this is slowing down as we have

readjusted his eyes....

So....... this exercise basicly works central detail vision.

It is also used by NACD for kids who do a lot of visual stims as those kids are

actually playing out of the side of their eyes. They are messing with their

neural connections..... sort of like forcing your eyes to go cross-eyed for fun

(remember when you were a kid). Kids who visual stim have found a wonderous and

amazing world with their eyes. They utilize their periferal vision for a

play-measure almost. Unfortunately it is addicting and becomes a compulsion

that the child cannot stop so we must retrain the eyes to do what they are meant

to do; look straight ahead.

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

«*AAAAAAACould you describe those other organizations you mentioned and tell

where they are located? Until recently, I did not know these places

existed. (Not a single doctor or therapist ever suggested this when

I asked, " What can I do at home? " ) I think it is important for

people to be able to compare and contrast the various options out

there.

in NJ

>

> Speaking of therapy -is this NACD and why do they shine the light

in

> the child's eyes?!

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs6IQnwyzI & feature=related

>

> --------------------------------

> I took a look at this video and many of the others in the series of

this one child.

>

> I preface my response by saying that for 3 years my kids do follow

neurological organization programs (which is the generic umbrella

name for the neurodevelopmental therapies offered by companies such

as NACD, INPP, IAHP and others - note NACD is not the " only " company

to offer these services). We are not followed by any direct " NACD "

led program, although the programs that we do are prepared and

followed by a INPP-type clinic with direct ties to Temple Fay, Glenn

Doman, INPP etc. I do not know, obviously, what the mother in that

video was instructed to do or if what she was doing is her

interpretation of what she was told vs doing actually what she was

told to do.

>

> My eldest son has functional issues with his pupillary reflex where

his pupils remain dilated even in bright light sometimes and they do

not dilate/constrict at a normal velocity. Part of this was the

negative opiate influence of casein. Once casein was reduced with

enzymes we saw improvement but the problem persists. We are unable

to totally remove casein, though we did finally succeed doing so for

2 months last year - but I have an excessively selective eater and to

keep a complicated story short, we had to reintro it or let him

starve to death.

>

> When the pupils do not respond correctly or adequately to changes

in lightness and darkness it make focusing (i.e. vision) difficult

and negatively impacts the visual input of information. Think about

how your own eyes go into tilt if you've been out in bright son and

you return inside the house and they don't adapt quickly to the

darker environment or from a dark room to bright light and you are

temporarily " blind " . That reaction really inhibits your ability to

function - at least temporarily, doesn't it?

>

> In any case, the real point of this email is to explain that there

is an excercise using a penlight (not a regular flashlight) but what

we have been instructed to do does not resemble remotely how the

pupil light therapy was shown in that YouTube video. The therapy

itself is to excercise the pupillary reflex...triggering a

constriction of the pupil - like a muscle workout. We have been

told to use a pen light with a light bulb that is not more powerful

than 3 watts (the one we have is only 1,5 and it's intense)...you

should not use a laser penlight. The actual therapy, for us, is to

point the light at one eye for 1 second - only 1 second, alternating

to the other eye after 5 seconds of rest for not more than a combined

total of 1 minute for the entire session. The light should not be

placed close to the eye either. It is preferential to perform the

therapy in semi-darkness or darkness but can be performed in a

lighted room - it all depends on the severity and individual

condition of the patient. We repeat this therapy more than once a

day but I prefer not to post our individual program in detail as it

is a therapy customized for my son and really should not be done

unless it is needed and tailored to the child. It does help.

>

> We had just restarted the program 2 weeks ago but had to suspend

the penlight therapy when my son got a fever and flu. When the child

is ill or not feeling well, the therapies are usually stopped until

they are better. Of course, when to stop and restart I am in direct

consulation with his NDT (neurodevelopmental therapist) -- I don't

make those decisions all on my own.

>

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[Guest guest]

Janice,

What should I look for in Charlie. I had his eyes tested about a month ago.

Everything was fine. In the beginning of my journey in Sept, Charlie would

look out side of his eye to the right or left and twirl in that direction or

even " spin. " Told my nutritionist, Dorfman about it and she said it was

due to lack of vitamin A and that he was getting the cones and the rods

mixed up. She said mercury strips Vitamin A. Since Charlie is a metals kid,

this makes sense. So we supplimented with a tsp of CLO w/A. All better

immediate gains all around.

Since we are detoxing I believe I may have seen some peripherial stuff. What

do I look for?

Thanks,

Colleen

MOther of Charlie 32 months

[ ] Re: NACD - Light in the eyes

Did you get my email on this....

I will restate.

This youtube video is obviously a video designed for someone abroad (such as

India or Guatamala) to be seen by an evaluator for the video evaluation thus

the evaluator knows how the flashlight is set up. This is called Pleoptics

and has been around for a long, long time and is used by vision therapists

as well.

The flashlight has a penny glued to the center. You bring it close to the

childs eye so that the penny covers the macula of the eye completely and the

light just shines to the outer edges of the eye. Hold for 3 seconds and

remove for 8 seconds, proceed to the other eye (always begin with the

dominant eye first).

We did this exercise with Mark for 3 months 2 times daily for 2 minutes per

session to reduce his tendency to over-utilize his periferal vision. Mark

always seemed so disjointed; his head was traveling in one direction and his

body was traveling in another. This was because he was looking out of his

periferal vision rather than using his central vision most of the time. This

seemed to be limited to when he was moving not when he was working or doing

close work such as reading. He also had trouble seeing an object on a

cluttered desk because he would sweep over the desk with his periferal

vision rather than his central vision and thus miss a lot of minor details

of life!

I am considering doing this exercise a little more as I see a bit of eye

stuff going on particularly when Mark is playing sports.... that old

periferal vision crops up a little and I want to get rid of it completely. I

want fantastic and amazing central detail vision!

Yet, this hyper-periferal vision is what allows him to be such an amazing

reader; his eyes are able to grab the edges of a word and he can speed read

while retaining comprehension. I wonder if this is slowing down as we have

readjusted his eyes....

So....... this exercise basicly works central detail vision.

It is also used by NACD for kids who do a lot of visual stims as those kids

are actually playing out of the side of their eyes. They are messing with

their neural connections..... sort of like forcing your eyes to go

cross-eyed for fun (remember when you were a kid). Kids who visual stim have

found a wonderous and amazing world with their eyes. They utilize their

periferal vision for a play-measure almost. Unfortunately it is addicting

and becomes a compulsion that the child cannot stop so we must retrain the

eyes to do what they are meant to do; look straight ahead.

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

<*AAAAAAACould you describe those other organizations you mentioned and tell

where they are located? Until recently, I did not know these places

existed. (Not a single doctor or therapist ever suggested this when

I asked, " What can I do at home? " ) I think it is important for

people to be able to compare and contrast the various options out

there.

in NJ

>

> Speaking of therapy -is this NACD and why do they shine the light

in

> the child's eyes?!

> http://www.youtube.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs6IQnwyzI & feature=related>

com/watch?v=jCs6IQnwyzI & feature=related

>

> --------------------------------

> I took a look at this video and many of the others in the series of

this one child.

>

> I preface my response by saying that for 3 years my kids do follow

neurological organization programs (which is the generic umbrella

name for the neurodevelopmental therapies offered by companies such

as NACD, INPP, IAHP and others - note NACD is not the " only " company

to offer these services). We are not followed by any direct " NACD "

led program, although the programs that we do are prepared and

followed by a INPP-type clinic with direct ties to Temple Fay, Glenn

Doman, INPP etc. I do not know, obviously, what the mother in that

video was instructed to do or if what she was doing is her

interpretation of what she was told vs doing actually what she was

told to do.

>

> My eldest son has functional issues with his pupillary reflex where

his pupils remain dilated even in bright light sometimes and they do

not dilate/constrict at a normal velocity. Part of this was the

negative opiate influence of casein. Once casein was reduced with

enzymes we saw improvement but the problem persists. We are unable

to totally remove casein, though we did finally succeed doing so for

2 months last year - but I have an excessively selective eater and to

keep a complicated story short, we had to reintro it or let him

starve to death.

>

> When the pupils do not respond correctly or adequately to changes

in lightness and darkness it make focusing (i.e. vision) difficult

and negatively impacts the visual input of information. Think about

how your own eyes go into tilt if you've been out in bright son and

you return inside the house and they don't adapt quickly to the

darker environment or from a dark room to bright light and you are

temporarily " blind " . That reaction really inhibits your ability to

function - at least temporarily, doesn't it?

>

> In any case, the real point of this email is to explain that there

is an excercise using a penlight (not a regular flashlight) but what

we have been instructed to do does not resemble remotely how the

pupil light therapy was shown in that YouTube video. The therapy

itself is to excercise the pupillary reflex...triggering a

constriction of the pupil - like a muscle workout. We have been

told to use a pen light with a light bulb that is not more powerful

than 3 watts (the one we have is only 1,5 and it's intense)...you

should not use a laser penlight. The actual therapy, for us, is to

point the light at one eye for 1 second - only 1 second, alternating

to the other eye after 5 seconds of rest for not more than a combined

total of 1 minute for the entire session. The light should not be

placed close to the eye either. It is preferential to perform the

therapy in semi-darkness or darkness but can be performed in a

lighted room - it all depends on the severity and individual

condition of the patient. We repeat this therapy more than once a

day but I prefer not to post our individual program in detail as it

is a therapy customized for my son and really should not be done

unless it is needed and tailored to the child. It does help.

>

> We had just restarted the program 2 weeks ago but had to suspend

the penlight therapy when my son got a fever and flu. When the child

is ill or not feeling well, the therapies are usually stopped until

they are better. Of course, when to stop and restart I am in direct

consulation with his NDT (neurodevelopmental therapist) -- I don't

make those decisions all on my own.

>

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