Re: Kaufman Seminar tomorrow

October 12, 2007

Becky,

My son Logan may be the child she shows in her demonstration... he is

accompanied by his sister Olivia. I would love to hear if she is still using

him

for her demos. Enjoy the seminar. is wonderful!

Jule from NY

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October 12, 2007

In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:00:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

DJvirtual@... writes:

Becky,

My son Logan may be the child she shows in her demonstration.My son Lo

accompanied by his sister Olivia. I would love to hear if she is still using

him

for her demos. Enjoy the seminar. is wonderful!

Jule from NY

Jule,

I am almost positive that yes, she used Logan as an example. Are they

twins? I know that there was a brother/sister combination and she had a few

diffe

rent ages of when the tape was taken. But I definitely recall that a Logan

was used-- and if that's your son-- he's ADORABLE!!!

Becky

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October 12, 2007

In a message dated 10/12/2007 10:02:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I was there! If I had seen this earlier we could have met up. It was so

informative wasn't it? I feel like I now have a real starting point for my son

with speech. I can't wait to get started. I was really impressed with her. I

ran into one of my kids school SLP's on the way out and she seemed really happy

with the info she took away from it also. They already use the cards in the

classrooms. what did you think?

Hmmm-- that's a good question. I enjoyed the whole day and felt that she has

a TON of information to get out, and I enjoyed hearing her speak.

However-- I was pretty disappointed with things after lunch, and felt that

she got VERY distracted with all of the videos clips, and felt that she left

the last topics without any substance. She literally had 10 min to cover one

of the most important topics at the end-- and I wish she skipped some of the

videos to be able to give more of the practical information and how to

implement, etc.

I think if I was an SLP, it would be right up my alley. As a parent, though,

I was left feeling as though I needed more substance, and I wanted more

practical things, as compared to technical jargon. I understood it all, but just

didn't really want to hear that part of it, I guess?

I was a little surprised to hear her opinion on the physical PROMPT method--

but I DO Agree with her that the Kaufman and PROMPT methods work well

together and go hand-in-hand.

Overall it was a good experience, but I really feel as though she has so

much to offer, and time should have been lengthened, ORRRRrrr she should have

stayed on task and covered all the notes and completed things.

I also think that she should run a PARENT seminar, rather than just an

SLP/Experts one. I think that she has so much to offer us as parents (who do

most

of the work, by the way!!) and she would be wise to get parent seminars going

around the country.

Where were you sitting?

I was on the right-hand side, 3 rows up from the back

becky

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October 12, 2007

I was at the seminar today and your kids were on one of the videos---They are

adorable!!!

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From: DJvirtual@...

Becky,

My son Logan may be the child she shows in her demonstration... he is

accompanied by his sister Olivia. I would love to hear if she is still using him

for her demos. Enjoy the seminar. is wonderful!

Jule from NY

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October 12, 2007

I was there! If I had seen this earlier we could have met up. It was so

informative wasn't it? I feel like I now have a real starting point for my son

with speech. I can't wait to get started. I was really impressed with her. I

ran into one of my kids school SLP's on the way out and she seemed really happy

with the info she took away from it also. They already use the cards in the

classrooms. what did you think?

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From: tbniesh@...

Tomorrow's the big day!!! I'm registered to attend the Kaufman Seminar here

in North NJ.

Are there any other parents going? I recall that there was someone else who

was going to go.

I'd love to meet up with you if you're there!

Becky

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October 13, 2007

I was on the right hand side also, but three rows up from the front on the

aisle.

I know what you mean about the videos. It was a bit of overkill. While the

morning had my full attention i started getting very sleepy towards the end and

even thought about heading out early if we were just watching more videos. I

felt like I already had a ton of info to start to use with my son and was

worried about all the traffic. (What a horrible ride in-I was so nervous!) I

agree she should have cut down on the videos-though it was great to see her

methods in action and working. I was surprised at how she felt about Prompt

too. From what I have heard, her method and Prompt are the only ones that seem

to work for these kids. She seemed to have softened her view on them by the

end. I would love to go to Tammy Kaspers seminar when she is there. I looked

but it isn't listed yet. i had bought a program earlier this year that was just

a parents guide book and a workbook. I think she wrote that also since she

mentioned it. I have to check my book again. It was a bit co

nfusing with all the CV CVC stuff that I had no idea what to do with. Now at

least i understand that! I am glad I went but you are right about the second

half of the seminar.

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From: tbniesh@...

In a message dated 10/12/2007 10:02:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I was there! If I had seen this earlier we could have met up. It was so

informative wasn't it? I feel like I now have a real starting point for my son

with speech. I can't wait to get started. I was really impressed with her. I

ran into one of my kids school SLP's on the way out and she seemed really happy

with the info she took away from it also. They already use the cards in the

classrooms. what did you think?

Hmmm-- that's a good question. I enjoyed the whole day and felt that she has

a TON of information to get out, and I enjoyed hearing her speak.

However-- I was pretty disappointed with things after lunch, and felt that

she got VERY distracted with all of the videos clips, and felt that she left

the last topics without any substance. She literally had 10 min to cover one

of the most important topics at the end-- and I wish she skipped some of the

videos to be able to give more of the practical information and how to

implement, etc.

I think if I was an SLP, it would be right up my alley. As a parent, though,

I was left feeling as though I needed more substance, and I wanted more

practical things, as compared to technical jargon. I understood it all, but just

didn't really want to hear that part of it, I guess?

I was a little surprised to hear her opinion on the physical PROMPT method--

but I DO Agree with her that the Kaufman and PROMPT methods work well

together and go hand-in-hand.

Overall it was a good experience, but I really feel as though she has so

much to offer, and time should have been lengthened, ORRRRrrr she should have

stayed on task and covered all the notes and completed things.

I also think that she should run a PARENT seminar, rather than just an

SLP/Experts one. I think that she has so much to offer us as parents (who do

most

of the work, by the way!!) and she would be wise to get parent seminars going

around the country.

Where were you sitting?

I was on the right-hand side, 3 rows up from the back

becky

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October 14, 2007

In a message dated 10/13/2007 10:05:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

Now at least i understand that! I am glad I went but you are right about the

second half of the seminar.

-

Our private SLP came on Saturday and has asked my opinion of the seminar,

since 3 of her co-workers from the school district were there. I hesitated,

not knowing really how to respond, and then she said almost word-for-word what

I wrote down on my attendee questionaire! I felt such relief, because here

were 3 experts who felt the SAME EXACT WAY that we both do,and they use the

same wording-- that she lacked the " practical " part of the program. Phew--

that was nice to know because I was afraid I Was being too critical, and yet,

it

was just good to hear to confirm that I was actually paying attention and

hearing things that were being discussed, and although we're " just parents " we

actually CAN know just as much as the

SLPs on this!!!

bek

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October 15, 2007

In a message dated 10/15/2007 2:37:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I have been working on my son to get him to repeat sounds he is already

making. (he is nonverbal) The only problem is he will do it at night when it is

the two of us alone in his room and he thinks it's playing. But when he knows

i am trying to get him to say it to refer to an object (like buh for bus)he

won't do it! He had stopped trying to speak around springtime because he was

so frustrated. I am worried he still just won't try. For now I will be happy

with what he can repeat at night with me but hopefully can transition into

" naming " things too.

-

That's good that he will do it with play-- because he's young still, if I'm

not mistaken, right? It's so frustrating for them when they know they can't

say something, but through playtime, and right before bed, I think much can

be accomplished.

Try the Brown Bear, Brown Bear books (Panda Bear, Panda Bear/ Polar Bear

Polar Bear) because they have a lot of repetitive features and he will probably

love to hear himself try those words in " play " . And don't forget to use the

approximations since he doesn't have the sounds yet-- just make it easier and

enjoy the " working playtime "

bek

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October 15, 2007

I was kind of wondering if maybe the SLP's were getting more out of that second

half. I guess not! I am so glad I went but probably should have left a bit

earlier for an easier drive home. I have been working on my son to get him to

repeat sounds he is already making. (he is nonverbal) The only problem is he

will do it at night when it is the two of us alone in his room and he thinks

it's playing. But when he knows i am trying to get him to say it to refer to an

object (like buh for bus)he won't do it! He had stopped trying to speak around

springtime because he was so frustrated. I am worried he still just won't try.

For now I will be happy with what he can repeat at night with me but hopefully

can transition into " naming " things too.

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From: tbniesh@...

In a message dated 10/13/2007 10:05:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

Now at least i understand that! I am glad I went but you are right about the

second half of the seminar.

-

Our private SLP came on Saturday and has asked my opinion of the seminar,

since 3 of her co-workers from the school district were there. I hesitated,

not knowing really how to respond, and then she said almost word-for-word what

I wrote down on my attendee questionaire! I felt such relief, because here

were 3 experts who felt the SAME EXACT WAY that we both do,and they use the

same wording-- that she lacked the " practical " part of the program. Phew--

that was nice to know because I was afraid I Was being too critical, and yet, it

was just good to hear to confirm that I was actually paying attention and

hearing things that were being discussed, and although we're " just parents " we

actually CAN know just as much as the

SLPs on this!!!

bek

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October 15, 2007

In a message dated 10/15/2007 8:17:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I can't wait until he uses any sound at all to request something or label

it.

That will be a wonderful day!

He will, -- he will!! Just keep working with him and praying and

praying and praying--

he's going to be GREAT!~

Becky

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October 15, 2007

We love the Carle books! Brown Bear,Brown Bear is his favorite right now!

We read it several times a night. I am trying to work a different story or two

as well now. I love that at the end I can try to get him to point at the animal

pictures on the last page. Of course he refuses to. He plays his little piano

with pointed fingers. But will not point at a picture for me! He will take my

hand and put my pointed finger on it but not his own. We have the Pand Bear and

Polar Bear books too but nothing tops Brown Bear! I can't wait until he uses

any sound at all to request something or label it.

That will be a wonderful day!

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From: tbniesh@...

In a message dated 10/15/2007 2:37:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I have been working on my son to get him to repeat sounds he is already

making. (he is nonverbal) The only problem is he will do it at night when it is

the two of us alone in his room and he thinks it's playing. But when he knows

i am trying to get him to say it to refer to an object (like buh for bus)he

won't do it! He had stopped trying to speak around springtime because he was

so frustrated. I am worried he still just won't try. For now I will be happy

with what he can repeat at night with me but hopefully can transition into

" naming " things too.

-

That's good that he will do it with play-- because he's young still, if I'm

not mistaken, right? It's so frustrating for them when they know they can't

say something, but through playtime, and right before bed, I think much can

be accomplished.

Try the Brown Bear, Brown Bear books (Panda Bear, Panda Bear/ Polar Bear

Polar Bear) because they have a lot of repetitive features and he will probably

love to hear himself try those words in " play " . And don't forget to use the

approximations since he doesn't have the sounds yet-- just make it easier and

enjoy the " working playtime "

bek

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October 16, 2007

Last spring, my son (almost six then)ask me (via sign and speech) for

the " Brown Bear " book. I found it for him and went back to eating

lunch with my husband. We were eating and listening to him say

something purposefully. We stopped and knowing he asked me for the

book just a minute ago - I could make out that he was READING OUT

LOUD the Brown Bear book. Pointing to the words, and saying them

(granted most people would not have been able to understand 70% of

the words). It will happen-just keep up the fight even though it's

exhausting at times.

PS we got his teachers " brown bear " gifts from the eric carle museum

online to celebrate at the end of the year

>

> We love the Carle books! Brown Bear,Brown Bear is his

favorite right now! We read it several times a night. I am trying

to work a different story or two as well now. I love that at the end

I can try to get him to point at the animal pictures on the last

page. Of course he refuses to. He plays his little piano with

pointed fingers. But will not point at a picture for me! He will

take my hand and put my pointed finger on it but not his own. We

have the Pand Bear and Polar Bear books too but nothing tops Brown

Bear! I can't wait until he uses any sound at all to request

something or label it.

> That will be a wonderful day!

>

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> From: tbniesh@...

>

> In a message dated 10/15/2007 2:37:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> klbushey@... writes:

>

> I have been working on my son to get him to repeat sounds he is

already

> making. (he is nonverbal) The only problem is he will do it at

night when it is

> the two of us alone in his room and he thinks it's playing. But

when he knows

> i am trying to get him to say it to refer to an object (like buh

for bus)he

> won't do it! He had stopped trying to speak around springtime

because he was

> so frustrated. I am worried he still just won't try. For now I will

be happy

> with what he can repeat at night with me but hopefully can

transition into

> " naming " things too.

>

> -

>

> That's good that he will do it with play-- because he's young

still, if I'm

> not mistaken, right? It's so frustrating for them when they know

they can't

> say something, but through playtime, and right before bed, I think

much can

> be accomplished.

> Try the Brown Bear, Brown Bear books (Panda Bear, Panda Bear/ Polar

Bear

> Polar Bear) because they have a lot of repetitive features and he

will probably

> love to hear himself try those words in " play " . And don't forget to

use the

> approximations since he doesn't have the sounds yet-- just make it

easier and

> enjoy the " working playtime "

>

> bek

>

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http://www.aol.com

>

October 16, 2007

Kids really love that book! There is a website www.dltk-teach.com that has

BrownBear downloads for kids. I think it has activities and things to color.

If your kids like the books, it's worth checking out. They also have other

story book characters. Someone on another board told me about it a while ago.

At the time i don't think my son would have been interested but I'll have to try

again. Now I think we will get somewhere with it.

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