Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 All I Can say is that I totally agree! bek **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I am in a bad mood today admittedly but this thing set me over the edge. I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-my kids. For different reasons each requires, at a minimum, a delayed schedule. My idea was rather than do a religious exemption I'd work with the doc, who prides himself in being a vaccine guy as he says with no definition mind you, checking titres and making smart decisions along the way backed up by lots of research. I was thinking I could do that because I was only sending them to preschool and then planned to homeschool. Preschool is essential for my neurocompromised son who is a speech kid. I can't recreate a classroom of little ones to talk to and he is not getting the flu shot. So, now I am stuck with religious exemption. I don't mind but the truth is I believe in a God who makes humans smart enough to make less harmful unpreserved vaccines and I was trying to get the ones that ,mattered for my kids. I supose free will instead gave us this jackass who thinks this is a good idea. For one thing, where are they going to get this vaccine when there have been shortages every damn year since my kids were born. I could not have gotten a flu vaccine in NJ for the past 3 years if I bribed someone. My next question, if the shortage is real then what the hell are they injecting into these kids? Yes, I sound crazy now but it is THIS that is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 No you are not crazy!! I have so many similar issues with vaccines. I heard this information last night on the news and it just really brought me down. Too many in such a short period of time, we don't need to inject them with more. I have a daughter in pre-k(spec ed). I hope this does not pass!! > > I am in a bad mood today admittedly but this thing set me over the > edge. I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-my kids. For different reasons > each requires, at a minimum, a delayed schedule. My idea was rather > than do a religious exemption I'd work with the doc, who prides himself > in being a vaccine guy as he says with no definition mind you, checking > titres and making smart decisions along the way backed up by lots of > research. I was thinking I could do that because I was only sending > them to preschool and then planned to homeschool. Preschool is > essential for my neurocompromised son who is a speech kid. I can't > recreate a classroom of little ones to talk to and he is not getting > the flu shot. So, now I am stuck with religious exemption. I don't mind > but the truth is I believe in a God who makes humans smart enough to > make less harmful unpreserved vaccines and I was trying to get the ones > that ,mattered for my kids. I supose free will instead gave us this > jackass who thinks this is a good idea. For one thing, where are they > going to get this vaccine when there have been shortages every damn > year since my kids were born. I could not have gotten a flu vaccine in > NJ for the past 3 years if I bribed someone. My next question, if the > shortage is real then what the hell are they injecting into these kids? > Yes, I sound crazy now but it is THIS that is crazy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 And the flu vaccine is still preserved with thimerisol; the controversial preservative. " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@optonline .net> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject [ ] The NJ Flu Vaccine Requirement --- Vent 12/10/2007 07:55 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m I am in a bad mood today admittedly but this thing set me over the edge. I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-my kids. For different reasons each requires, at a minimum, a delayed schedule. My idea was rather than do a religious exemption I'd work with the doc, who prides himself in being a vaccine guy as he says with no definition mind you, checking titres and making smart decisions along the way backed up by lots of research. I was thinking I could do that because I was only sending them to preschool and then planned to homeschool. Preschool is essential for my neurocompromised son who is a speech kid. I can't recreate a classroom of little ones to talk to and he is not getting the flu shot. So, now I am stuck with religious exemption. I don't mind but the truth is I believe in a God who makes humans smart enough to make less harmful unpreserved vaccines and I was trying to get the ones that ,mattered for my kids. I supose free will instead gave us this jackass who thinks this is a good idea. For one thing, where are they going to get this vaccine when there have been shortages every damn year since my kids were born. I could not have gotten a flu vaccine in NJ for the past 3 years if I bribed someone. My next question, if the shortage is real then what the hell are they injecting into these kids? Yes, I sound crazy now but it is THIS that is crazy. ----------------------------------------- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JP Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Stop 4 New Mandatory Vaccines for New Jersey's Children – Some Contain Mercury _ Take Action!_ (http://capwiz.com/a-champ/callalert/index.tt? alertid=10658271 & queueid=1608649826) Call NJ Gov. Corzine & Health Commissioner Fred s Today Stop Four New Mandatory Vaccines for New Jersey's ChildrenCall Gov. Corzine and Health Commissioner Fred s Today Stop Mandatory Mercury-Containing Flu Shots for Children as Young as 6 months! Today it is New Jersey. Next it will be your State! Call regardless of where you live. Yesterday an appointed committee voted to force children in New Jersey to take 4 new vaccines, including two that contain mercury. Next, the vaccine mandates must be approved by Fred s, head of New Jersey's Department of Health and Senior Services. s is appointed by the Governor. He has until Dec. 18 to approve the vaccine mandates. Please call New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine at (609) 292-6000 and politely demand that the Governor stop the new vaccine mandates immediately. Call Health Commissioner Fred s at (609) 292-7837 and ask him to stop the vaccine mandates. As always, please be polite. Families bear all the responsibility of a vaccine-injury. Families, therefore, should have the right to make vaccine decisions without the interference of secretive political boards. What are the new vaccine mandates recommended to s? Mandated: Annual Flu shot for all children from ages 6 to 59 months, as a pre-condiction to attend daycare or pre-school. · This would be the first mandatory flu-shot in the world. · 90% of flu shots contain mercury · Giving the fu shot to an average six-month old child would expose that child twice to 12 times the FDA daily maximum mercury exposure limit for an adult. · There is no clear evidence that the flu shot provides any health benefit to children under 2 years of age. Mandated: Pneumococcal Series, 4 shots for children 2 months to 59 months enrolled in pre-school or daycare. · Prevnar, the only pneumococcal shot until recently, has a record of many adverse reactions that have never been adequately studied. · A study published in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, says that this shot is too expensive to justify using it for mass vaccination of children, · Some studies that the effectiveness of pneumococcal is rapidly diminishing Mandated: Diptheria-Pertussis-Tetanus, One booster for sixth-graders. · If this shot is effective why is another booster necessary? · What are the claimed benefits compared to the inevitable injuries? Mandated: Meningococcal vaccine, One shot for sixth-graders. · Many of of the meningococcal vaccines contain mercury. · A study published in Pediatrics, says that this shot is too expensive to justify using it. · The side effects are unknown because the meningococcal vaccine was evaluated in clinical studies by comparison with another experimental vaccine, not a control group that received a placebo Parents who want to make informed and independent health decisions for their children been fighting these proposals for three years. We aren't going to give up now. CDC officials have said that if they can get these shots required in New Jersey they will attempt to make them mandatory in all other states. New Jersey's has national importance. Your action NOW is crucial to protect all of America 's children. Please call New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine at (609) 292-6000 and politely demand that the Governor stop the new vaccine mandates immediately. Call Health Commissioner Fred s at (609) 292-7837 and ask him to stop the vaccine mandates. Always be polite and respectful. Let your views be known. ____________________________________ Message Brought To You By A-CHAMP Advocates for Children's Health Affected by Mercury Poisoning See Our Action Alerts. Click the _TAKE ACTION_ (http://capwiz.com/a-champ/home/) ! button _http://capwiz.com/a-champ/home/ _ (http://capwiz.com/a-champ/home/) (http://www.a-champ.org/) _www.a-champ.org_ (http://www.a-champ.org/) _BE A-CHAMP FOR CHILDREN!_ (http://capwiz.com/a-champ/home/) ____________________________________ If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from us, please click _here_ (http://capwiz.com/a-champ/lmx/u/?jobid=94238714 & queueid=1608649826) . **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Not all Vaccines have thimerosol here is a good link to try and get one that is thimerosol free http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#t1 I live in NJ as well, my hope is that I can find a doctor that has the vaccine I want my daughter to have and then just provide proof to the school that she has already had this shot through her own doctor and doesn't need the school to provide it. Good Luck myra.bauza@... wrote: And the flu vaccine is still preserved with thimerisol; the controversial preservative. " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@optonline ..net> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject [ ] The NJ Flu Vaccine Requirement --- Vent 12/10/2007 07:55 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m I am in a bad mood today admittedly but this thing set me over the edge. I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-my kids. For different reasons each requires, at a minimum, a delayed schedule. My idea was rather than do a religious exemption I'd work with the doc, who prides himself in being a vaccine guy as he says with no definition mind you, checking titres and making smart decisions along the way backed up by lots of research. I was thinking I could do that because I was only sending them to preschool and then planned to homeschool. Preschool is essential for my neurocompromised son who is a speech kid. I can't recreate a classroom of little ones to talk to and he is not getting the flu shot. So, now I am stuck with religious exemption. I don't mind but the truth is I believe in a God who makes humans smart enough to make less harmful unpreserved vaccines and I was trying to get the ones that ,mattered for my kids. I supose free will instead gave us this jackass who thinks this is a good idea. For one thing, where are they going to get this vaccine when there have been shortages every damn year since my kids were born. I could not have gotten a flu vaccine in NJ for the past 3 years if I bribed someone. My next question, if the shortage is real then what the hell are they injecting into these kids? Yes, I sound crazy now but it is THIS that is crazy. ----------------------------------------- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JP Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I think the " flu " vaccine is preserved with thimerisol..not all vaccines. I think they've stopped using it for the countless other vaccines they require of our children. I'm totally against the flu vaccine. Their is no proof it works. I don't believe in taking something for the " heck " of it. I will asked for some kind of waiver. (whichever one works). Lane <patricklane99@ya hoo.com> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject Re: [ ] The NJ Flu Vaccine Requirement --- Vent 12/11/2007 03:18 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m Not all Vaccines have thimerosol here is a good link to try and get one that is thimerosol free http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#t1 I live in NJ as well, my hope is that I can find a doctor that has the vaccine I want my daughter to have and then just provide proof to the school that she has already had this shot through her own doctor and doesn't need the school to provide it. Good Luck myra.bauza@... wrote: And the flu vaccine is still preserved with thimerisol; the controversial preservative. " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@optonline ..net> To Sent by: childrensapraxian cc et@... m Subject [ ] The NJ Flu Vaccine Requirement --- Vent 12/10/2007 07:55 PM Please respond to childrensapraxian et@... m I am in a bad mood today admittedly but this thing set me over the edge. I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-my kids. For different reasons each requires, at a minimum, a delayed schedule. My idea was rather than do a religious exemption I'd work with the doc, who prides himself in being a vaccine guy as he says with no definition mind you, checking titres and making smart decisions along the way backed up by lots of research. I was thinking I could do that because I was only sending them to preschool and then planned to homeschool. Preschool is essential for my neurocompromised son who is a speech kid. I can't recreate a classroom of little ones to talk to and he is not getting the flu shot. So, now I am stuck with religious exemption. I don't mind but the truth is I believe in a God who makes humans smart enough to make less harmful unpreserved vaccines and I was trying to get the ones that ,mattered for my kids. I supose free will instead gave us this jackass who thinks this is a good idea. For one thing, where are they going to get this vaccine when there have been shortages every damn year since my kids were born. I could not have gotten a flu vaccine in NJ for the past 3 years if I bribed someone. My next question, if the shortage is real then what the hell are they injecting into these kids? Yes, I sound crazy now but it is THIS that is crazy. ----------------------------------------- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JP Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Thimersolofree vaccines can legally have up to 1.99% of thimerosol in it and they do not have to tell you. They have replaced thimerosol with aluminum, a harmful neurotoxin. The likely safest way to vaccinate if you need a vaccine is fresh. Haukoos has written in great detail of this in the archives. > > And the flu vaccine is still preserved with thimerisol; the controversial > preservative. > > " ilizzy03 " > <lizlaw@optonline > .net> To > Sent by: > childrensapraxian cc > et@... > m Subject > [ ] The NJ Flu > Vaccine Requirement --- Vent > 12/10/2007 07:55 > PM > > Please respond to > childrensapraxian > et@... > m > > I am in a bad mood today admittedly but this thing set me over the > edge. I am not anti-vaccine. I am pro-my kids. For different reasons > each requires, at a minimum, a delayed schedule. My idea was rather > than do a religious exemption I'd work with the doc, who prides himself > in being a vaccine guy as he says with no definition mind you, checking > titres and making smart decisions along the way backed up by lots of > research. I was thinking I could do that because I was only sending > them to preschool and then planned to homeschool. Preschool is > essential for my neurocompromised son who is a speech kid. I can't > recreate a classroom of little ones to talk to and he is not getting > the flu shot. So, now I am stuck with religious exemption. I don't mind > but the truth is I believe in a God who makes humans smart enough to > make less harmful unpreserved vaccines and I was trying to get the ones > that ,mattered for my kids. I supose free will instead gave us this > jackass who thinks this is a good idea. For one thing, where are they > going to get this vaccine when there have been shortages every damn > year since my kids were born. I could not have gotten a flu vaccine in > NJ for the past 3 years if I bribed someone. My next question, if the > shortage is real then what the hell are they injecting into these kids? > Yes, I sound crazy now but it is THIS that is crazy. > > ----------------------------------------- > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, > confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you > are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or > use of the information contained herein (including any reliance > thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and > any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other > defect that might affect any computer system into which it is > received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to > ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by > JP Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as > applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. > If you received this transmission in error, please immediately > contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, > whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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