Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 As for the drug itself, ask the pharmacist as they are a wealth of info. Do you know if your child has a trapped metal issue? Hematachrosis, (sp) et? Also, antibiotics are generally gut tearing. Lastly, with the ear infections, see Doris Rapps Is this your child? She says something about ear stuff being a big indicator in milk allergy. > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection and > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir for 10 > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products within 2 > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has hit a > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link maybe > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is in it? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I know on Stan Kurtz website, I heard tonnes of kids doing terribly after anitbiotic treatments. Causes huge yeast overgrowths. They suggest taking probiotics to balance the gut flora that the antibiotic wiped out. His group mb12 valtrex and his website stankurtz.com has information on it. He recovered his son from autism but address kids with all sorts of issues. There is some good information on water and chlorine too. Good luck. He will get better, you just need to undo the damage. [ ] Re: Antibiotics effects -- Cefdinir > As for the drug itself, ask the pharmacist as they are a wealth of > info. Do you know if your child has a trapped metal issue? > Hematachrosis, (sp) et? Also, antibiotics are generally gut tearing. > Lastly, with the ear infections, see Doris Rapps Is this your child? > She says something about ear stuff being a big indicator in milk > allergy. > > >> >> Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our >> apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection and >> because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir for > 10 >> days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products within 2 >> hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has hit a >> big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to >> intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link maybe >> related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is in > it? >> >> Thanks! >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Stan is great and he did not chelate so those afraid of that should check him out. The probiotic thing is recommended a week or two after the course of antibiotics I think. , do you know where the chlorine stuff is. I could not find it on his site recently. I think they took it off and I really need that article for a friend. Thanks by the way, we had regression at the pool and never put it together until I read one of your posts. > > I know on Stan Kurtz website, I heard tonnes of kids doing terribly after > anitbiotic treatments. Causes huge yeast overgrowths. They suggest taking > probiotics to balance the gut flora that the antibiotic wiped out. His group > mb12 valtrex and his website stankurtz.com has information on it. He > recovered his son from autism but address kids with all sorts of issues. > There is some good information on water and chlorine too. > Good luck. > He will get better, you just need to undo the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 , Are you giving him anything to fight off the yeast issues that he is probably developing? A probiotic of any kind? .....Candex? Grapefruit Seed Extract? (dfferent from grape seed extract) Antibiotics are really hard on our children but what they cause is yeast overgrowth that makes them quite nasty. Just think of you on anti-biotics.... after a few days, you are running to the store for Monostat! It is the same for our children but a thousand times worse since the yeast will thrive in the weak immune systems of our kids. The Yeast Beast does attack and our children really suffer.... it is a battle we fight all of the time in my house now that Mark is taking DMSA to 'get the lead out'. Janice Mother of Mark, 13 [sPAM][ ] Antibiotics effects -- Cefdinir Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection and because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir for 10 days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products within 2 hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has hit a big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link maybe related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is in it? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 My son recently (just took last dose of cefdinir last Sat night) for a sinus infection. We actually had his sinus cavity cultured this time so we could see if we could isolate the bug and treat it appropriately as opposed to just using zithromax again (7 times this year alone). The ped swore we wouldn't isolate anything, but we did and there were only 2 antibiotics indicated for that bug - cefdinir and augmentin. The pharmacist told us that the iron and antacid warning was because the medication would bind to it and not be as effective. My son is on nystatin and a probiotic, so that is likely why we saw no ill effects while taking the cefdinir. In fact, we are seeing gains like we've never seen before. The cefdinir did not seem to cause a set-back with the tremendous progress we have seen while on nystatin. If I were you, I'd be telling your ped about our experiences here with yeast infections, tell him/her that you know that antibiotics - even one round - can cause a yeast overgrowth and you'd like to explore the fact this could be happening to your son. Especially if you are not doing any yeast intervention right now. > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection and > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir for 10 > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products within 2 > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has hit a > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link maybe > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is in it? > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 If you succeed in this path get the best intel you can on the right probiotic and when and how to use it and consider getting the Nyastatin compounded. > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > and > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir > for 10 > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > within 2 > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > hit a > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > maybe > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is > in it? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 How is Mark? > > , > > Are you giving him anything to fight off the yeast issues that he is probably developing? A probiotic of any kind? .....Candex? Grapefruit Seed Extract? (dfferent from grape seed extract) > > Antibiotics are really hard on our children but what they cause is yeast overgrowth that makes them quite nasty. Just think of you on anti-biotics.... after a few days, you are running to the store for Monostat! It is the same for our children but a thousand times worse since the yeast will thrive in the weak immune systems of our kids. > > The Yeast Beast does attack and our children really suffer.... it is a battle we fight all of the time in my house now that Mark is taking DMSA to 'get the lead out'. > > Janice > Mother of Mark, 13 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 .....doing much better than his sick old mom! We do have to diligently fight the yeast though. [sPAM][ ] Re: Antibiotics effects -- Cefdinir How is Mark? > > , > > Are you giving him anything to fight off the yeast issues that he is probably developing? A probiotic of any kind? .....Candex? Grapefruit Seed Extract? (dfferent from grape seed extract) > > Antibiotics are really hard on our children but what they cause is yeast overgrowth that makes them quite nasty. Just think of you on anti-biotics.... after a few days, you are running to the store for Monostat! It is the same for our children but a thousand times worse since the yeast will thrive in the weak immune systems of our kids. > > The Yeast Beast does attack and our children really suffer.... it is a battle we fight all of the time in my house now that Mark is taking DMSA to 'get the lead out'. > > Janice > Mother of Mark, 13 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Janice, I'm so novice with this stuff. Can these probiotic be found at most health/vitamin stores? Thanks! Also, are you saying that giving antibiotics shouldn't be an option for our apraxic/dyspraxic children? > > > > , > > > > Are you giving him anything to fight off the yeast issues that he > is probably developing? A probiotic of any kind? .....Candex? > Grapefruit Seed Extract? (dfferent from grape seed extract) > > > > Antibiotics are really hard on our children but what they cause is > yeast overgrowth that makes them quite nasty. Just think of you on > anti-biotics.... after a few days, you are running to the store for > Monostat! It is the same for our children but a thousand times > worse since the yeast will thrive in the weak immune systems of our > kids. > > > > The Yeast Beast does attack and our children really suffer.... it > is a battle we fight all of the time in my house now that Mark is > taking DMSA to 'get the lead out'. > > > > Janice > > Mother of Mark, 13 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 , Thanks for your reply, sounds like I am experiencing much the same thing. Bridger has been fighting off ear infections with antibiotics this is the 5th go around. Zithromax, augmentin and now cefdinir. I guess I need to explore this nystatin and possible probiotics. Can you tell me in the least how does yeast infections manifest themselves in our children? And yes, I'm going right to my unknowing pediatriation with this info. Thanks! > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > and > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir > for 10 > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > within 2 > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > hit a > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > maybe > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is > in it? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I'm having a 'ah ha' moment. All this is starting to make serious sense. My kids have been battling chronic ear infections and have been on non-stop antibiotics, I now see the whole picture. I just called my doctor to have him prescribe nyastatin (can this be bought over the counter?) and am heading out to find a good probiotic? Any sugggestions? THANKS > > > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > > and > > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir > > for 10 > > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > > within 2 > > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > > hit a > > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > > maybe > > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is > > in it? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 threelac [ ] Re: Antibiotics effects -- Cefdinir I'm having a 'ah ha' moment. All this is starting to make serious sense. My kids have been battling chronic ear infections and have been on non-stop antibiotics, I now see the whole picture. I just called my doctor to have him prescribe nyastatin (can this be bought over the counter?) and am heading out to find a good probiotic? Any sugggestions? THANKS > > > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > > and > > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir > > for 10 > > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > > within 2 > > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > > hit a > > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > > maybe > > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is > > in it? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Get the nyastatin compounded. > > > > > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on > our > > > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > > > and > > > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on > Cefdinir > > > for 10 > > > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > > > within 2 > > > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > > > hit a > > > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > > > maybe > > > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal > is > > > in it? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Don't quote me here but.... I believe that the antibiotics kill everything in the system and then the yeast fights back and multiplies to the excess resulting in an overgrowth..... not a scientific explanation to be sure. Another thing.... I also read that we can inhale substances such as mold that have yeast properties or 'funguses' which manifest themeselves in the system like yeast. My doctor gave me an article on this to read but it was incredibly scientific and I may have gotten a little lost in the jargon...... but I believe that is what they indicate. The fungus from the mold gets inhaled into the system and begins to impant itself in the body.... another form of infection similiar to candida.... This is why we should all test for mold as it could be a contributing factor in our children; we need to get rid of as many environmental insults as we possibly can locate in our immediate surroundings. Janice [sPAM][ ] Re: Antibiotics effects -- Cefdinir , Thanks for your reply, sounds like I am experiencing much the same thing. Bridger has been fighting off ear infections with antibiotics this is the 5th go around. Zithromax, augmentin and now cefdinir. I guess I need to explore this nystatin and possible probiotics. Can you tell me in the least how does yeast infections manifest themselves in our children? And yes, I'm going right to my unknowing pediatriation with this info. Thanks! > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > and > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir > for 10 > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > within 2 > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > hit a > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > maybe > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is > in it? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Sounds like this could be viral vs. bacterial which could explain why they've been on " non-stop antibiotics " with apparently no results. Has your doc done a finger stick to test the blood to see if there really is something bacterial going on vs. viral? Just a thought. Stephanee > > > > > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on > our > > > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > > > and > > > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on > Cefdinir > > > for 10 > > > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > > > within 2 > > > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > > > hit a > > > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > > > maybe > > > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal > is > > > in it? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Good thought, no the ped is showing me his ignorance...I go again on Friday and have lots to address (yeast) and will confront him with this thought process as well. Thanks for the thought. > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on > > our > > > > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear > infection > > > > and > > > > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on > > Cefdinir > > > > for 10 > > > > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > > > > within 2 > > > > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he > has > > > > hit a > > > > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > > > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any > link > > > > maybe > > > > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal > > is > > > > in it? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Mark likes Threelac because it is 'tasty'. I am not sure if you can just go out and buy it locally but there are many products available locally. Products that I have personally used and like to give the yeast beast a bash on the head include Candex (yeast medicine) and we have used the following probiotics with good success: VSL #3, Primal Defense (by Garden of LIfe.... they also make a pretty good digestive enzyme as well) and of course, ThreeLac. Good luck. To get started on it immediately, head out to a high-end vitamin store and pump the manager for knowledge. They are usually pretty good. Janice [ ] Re: Antibiotics effects -- Cefdinir I'm having a 'ah ha' moment. All this is starting to make serious sense. My kids have been battling chronic ear infections and have been on non-stop antibiotics, I now see the whole picture. I just called my doctor to have him prescribe nyastatin (can this be bought over the counter?) and am heading out to find a good probiotic? Any sugggestions? THANKS > > > > > > Can anyone speak to the effect that antibiotics could have on our > > > apraxic children? My son has had a severe double ear infection > > and > > > because he couldn't fight it off on his own, was put on Cefdinir > > for 10 > > > days. It warned against taking iron or other metal products > > within 2 > > > hours of taking medicine. Since he has been taking this he has > > hit a > > > big wall. His speech, behavior, and auditory issues seem to > > > intensify. Can anyone speak to this issue? Is there any link > > maybe > > > related to a toxin overload in his system? If so, what metal is > > in it? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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