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Charlene,

You mention how many drops but what dosage does that number of drops

equal???

Based on Marks recomendation I ordered the KTS I will post dosages when i

get them.

Laurie

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> Date: 4 Apr 2001 04:22:45 -0000

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> Subject: [ ] Digest Number 1046

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>

> The little 4 ounce individual bottles I have follows. Please notice

> that none of them require the 20 drop dosage you suggest.

>

> Trace Minerals

>

> 1) potassium phosphate 13 drops

> 2) zinc sulfate 7 drops

> 3) Magnesium chloride 10 drops

> 4) copper sulphate 4 drops

> 5) Chromium 5 drops.

> 6) Manganese 7 drops

> 7) Molybdenum 3 drops

>

> Ultra-Trace Minerals

>

> 8) selenium 3 drops.

> 7) Iodine 3 drops

>

> I am interested in getting more information. For instance if the

> company that originally developed the liquid minerals was

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In a message dated 11/5/01 3:15:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes:

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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:12:07 -0500 (EST)

From: agasaya@...

Subject: Teachers and Autoimmune Diseases

The Journal of Rheumatology, published in Canada, printed an article

last summer in which they cite the increased mortality rates of teachers

from autoimmue diseases as opposed to the expected incidence in the

general population. The journal article only briefly explored causative

factors, mainly contagion from coming into contact with so many

children. I wrote a letter to the editor requesting consideration of

toxicological factors from poor environmental conditions. I was just

informed last week that my letter was acceted for publication and should

appear (for subscribers) in the next issue. Here is the text of the

letter;

--------------------------------------------------

To the Editor,

I have just read the abstract of the study entitled, "Excess Autoimmune

Disease Mortality Among School Teachers" by Walsh and DeChello, with

great interest. My career as a speech pathologist in preschool settings

was recently ended and I am now disabled at the age of 46 with

neurological problems. I would like to raise two points which are

worthy of further medical scrutiny.

First, school settings are indeed hotbeds of infectious agents. Most

teachers spend their first few years of teaching taking many sick days,

frequenting their doctor's offices with greater regularity that at any

other point in their lives and taking many courses of antibiotics for

such ailments as respiratory tract/sinus infections, conjunctivitis,

ringworm, scabies, bacterial G.I. infections etc. We are exposed to

each child's home environment as well as the school environment in what

is carried to us daily by these youngsters.

Vaccinations, now including novel immunizations like Hepatitis and

yearly PPD tests are also mandatory or recommended and carry their own

inherent set of risks.

However, one cannot ignore the contribution of environmental factors

which take a huge toll upon us. My neurological problems were

precipitated by a six month long course of pyrethroid (neurotoxic)

pesticide spraying in the educational setting where I worked as a

supervisor and therapist. Sudden onset of symptoms and signs of

neurotoxicity, along with previously demonstrated sensitivities to

pesticides, permitted the connection to be made between the damage as

seen on a variety of tests and these toxins. Mold damage is also rife

amidst school buildings making recovery from respiratory/sinus

complaints difficult and inciting asthma attacks. Poorly ventilated

areas gather fumes from pesticides, cleaning materials, air fresheners,

newly laid flooring materials and furnishings, fresh paint, science

experiments, personal

fragrances/cosmetics, printed materials, drymarkers etc. Ingredients in

all of the above have been noted to be health hazards by OSHA/NIOSH.

Overcrowded classrooms and recirculated air in rooms with sealed windows

or lacking windows all have great impact upon the health of the students

and teaching staff. Let's remember to examine the environmental factors

at work here in combination with infectious agents. There is usually an

interaction among them which can cause the poor health of so many

educators and which is regularly recognized and discussed among us.

Thank you for publishing this important article.

Sincerely, Barbara Rubin

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I agree that we all need to somehow go forward as a group with our problems. I am a teacher in PA who got sick from toxic mold. I have written a book on the topic and am seeking a publisher. I have written 175 companies. So far, they have all written that the book is excellent, current and timely, but that they do not publish books of this type. I cannot afford to self-publish. Can anyone recommend someone? Who published Doug Haney's book? Also, I have been to three State Senators, the Dept of Health, the Dept of Ed etc. If we want to start a class action suit, the attorney to contact is either Duffy in Chicago or Ed Cros in Santa Ana who has had all that success with Ca. cases. Or how about Melinda Ballard's lawyer or Brockovich's firm, since she is now sick? Could we rally in some city? Meet in one location?

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Charlene,

Have you looked into any biomedical interventions? I've found both my ASD kids

to be high in several metals and, like many other children with an autism

diagnosis, they've gotten much better with chelation therapy using DMSA and

ALA. We're also looking into the Metallothionein Promoter from the Pfeiffer

Institute. I highly recommend you get a copy of the new McCandless

book " Children With Starving Brains " . If you want further information, feel

free to email me privately at r.shreffler@....

Best wishes,

Rita

Re: Digest Number 1046

I am open to suggestions. How do you suggest I get therapy? What

special programs are out there to teach anyone? Remember I cant even get

help with my childrens education here so who is to fund this ABA training?

If you were in my shoes would you quit your jobs to be on medicaid? Also

would like to learn how you would handle my case. Also please give me

suggestions of early intervention. I already know of part B but also

realize that dont work in most of the US. Do you know of any other early

intervention besides what I have meantioned?

thanks Charlene

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I signed up for the research project with families of two or more

children. I did read about DMSA and ALA but I got confused when it said

you should have a doctor monitoring it. Never in this lifetime could I

find a doctor to monitor that. Now B6 with magnesium worked. I bought

some liquid from kirkman laboratories. My son hates the stuff and can

sniff it out of ketchup even LOL. My daughter liked it until her father

said it tastes nasty now she hates it LOL. Rita I agree that natural is

best. I got a letter from my sons school requesting shots so I am going to

the school and signing a exemption stating religious reasons but the reason

would be medical!!! Where is the pfeiffer institute located? thanks

charlene

-- Re: Digest Number 1046

Charlene,

Have you looked into any biomedical interventions? I've found both my ASD

kids to be high in several metals and, like many other children with an

autism diagnosis, they've gotten much better with chelation therapy using

DMSA and ALA. We're also looking into the Metallothionein Promoter from the

Pfeiffer Institute. I highly recommend you get a copy of the new

McCandless book " Children With Starving Brains " . If you want further

information, feel free to email me privately at r.shreffler@....

Best wishes,

Rita

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Hi Charlene,

Here is the web address for the Pfeiffer Institute (in Naperville, IL--near

Chicago):

http://www.hriptc.org/

Click on the link for research & studies and then you can link to those related

to autism. Some parents are obtaining prescriptions for the MT Promoter through

their regular doctors. (I'm still checking out how we can do this. Dr. Amy

Holmes--in Baton Rouge--has been prescribing this for many of her patients

without them having to travel to Chicago. We're in S.W. MO and I've just

starting talking to our local doctor about getting started on the Promoter--I'll

post again when I figure out how we can get a prescription for it.)

You probably could find a doctor somewhere relatively close to you who is

willing to do the testing for toxic metal levels and supervise the chelation

process . There are a couple of that you could post to for help in

locating a doctor in your area. You might want to check out the following

groups for help with this and other issues as well. Both of these have great

files sections and very knowledgeable participants who have been tremendously

helpful to me in learning about various interventions:

autism/

abmd/

Rita

Re: Digest Number 1046

I signed up for the research project with families of two or more

children. I did read about DMSA and ALA but I got confused when it said

you should have a doctor monitoring it. Never in this lifetime could I

find a doctor to monitor that. Now B6 with magnesium worked. I bought

some liquid from kirkman laboratories. My son hates the stuff and can

sniff it out of ketchup even LOL. My daughter liked it until her father

said it tastes nasty now she hates it LOL. Rita I agree that natural is

best. I got a letter from my sons school requesting shots so I am going to

the school and signing a exemption stating religious reasons but the reason

would be medical!!! Where is the pfeiffer institute located? thanks

charlene

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Ronda,

Where do you start with Digestive Enzymes ?

Is there a good book out...?

Re: Digest Number 1046

> Charlene, have you tried digestive enzymes for your children?

>

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I'd join the autism treatment group. TONS of info. Also, check

out www.houstonni.com

autism treatment@groups

Some people can actually go off the gf/cf diet with digestive enzymes. I

just started them for my 2 yr about a week ago and am already seeing some

little things. It's soooo worth checking in to.

Rhonda

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I'd join the autism treatment group. TONS of info. Also, check

out www.houstonni.com

autism treatment@groups

Some people can actually go off the gf/cf diet with digestive enzymes. I

just started them for my 2 yr about a week ago and am already seeing some

little things. It's soooo worth checking in to.

Rhonda

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The principle misunderstood you big time. If you got upset over

everything that happened youd be a basket case. One time in the social

security office ate there room refreshner. The lady panicked and got

mad at me for not panicking. She demanded I leave right now and take him

to the ER so I had to fake it before she called DSS on me.

charlene

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That is exactly how I deal with situations. I was recently in an altercation

with the school for suspending for behavior related to her

disability and they wanted her to find another school. After this had been

resolved. I was laughing about it in the presence of a principal from a

different school: " She broke her nose! " and the principal said to me very

rudely : " There is nothing funny about Autism. "

Hello, I'm her mother! I know! That is how I deal!

Christy

" Grayson " <gbmprive@...> wrote:

> Three things:

>

>One, a sense of humor is a wonderful thing. *Joking* about something

>removes tension. That doesn't mean one plans to do it. In fact,

>joking about it acknowledges the difficulty of the situation, and at

>the same time defuses it.

>

>Two, the difficulty in dealing with a daughter who is borderline on

>the spectrum, meaning seems quite normal in many ways, is, I think,

>magnified by that very quot;normalityquot;. We are seeking a diagnosis for

>Meg because, after all these years, it is finally becoming clear

>that she is not growing out of her difficulties, difficulties which

>seemed age-appropriate five years ago but not now. IN the

>intervening years, we have been very frustrated by what has seemed

>like a stubborn unwillingness to have any empathy or sense of

>responsibility.

>

>Three, if you have infinite compassion and can always deal with your

>daughter in the way she needs you to, then I applaud you and envy

>you. Most of us are not able to keep our frustration completely

>under wraps, especially when dealing with someone who, for all the

>world, looks like an incredibly selfish, rude, but otherwise normal

>person. I think Charlene was being honest with us, and seeking some

>compassion, not advocating throwing water over one's child. I think

>we are all better off being able to acknowledge our own frustration-

>induced foibles, than having to play saint here on this list. After

>all, throwing water is not in the same class as, say, locking a

>child into a closet until they can quot;behavequot;, or using corporal

>punishment.

>

>Regards,

>

>--Grayson

>American, married to Marco (Dutchman)

>mom to Meghan (11), (3), and Sophie (2)

>living in Eindhoven, the Netherlands

>

>

>

>

>

>gt; Time for you 2 ladies to find a psychologist and get an official

>gt; diagnosis, you have to do it for your daughters sakes, as well as

>your

>gt; own. Cheryl S [Australia]

>gt;

>

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I bought a bottle of TMG from kirkman labs. I only gave it a couple

of times because I always forget it going back and forth to fifth wheel

which is my fault. I am going to get another bottle for fifth wheel and

one for the house. I didnt give it enough time to work yet. I am sorry I

plan too.

charlene

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Charlene, have you tried digestive enzymes for your children?

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Thank you Rita. Also someone sent something about a study a couple

of days ago. Well I wrote to them and they are to be contacting me !!!!

-- Re: Digest Number 1046

Hi Charlene,

Here is the web address for the Pfeiffer Institute (in Naperville, IL--near

Chicago):

http://www.hriptc.org/

Click on the link for research & studies and then you can link to those

related to autism. Some parents are obtaining prescriptions for the MT

Promoter through their regular doctors. (I'm still checking out how we can

do this. Dr. Amy Holmes--in Baton Rouge--has been prescribing this for many

of her patients without them having to travel to Chicago. We're in S.W. MO

and I've just starting talking to our local doctor about getting started on

the Promoter--I'll post again when I figure out how we can get a

prescription for it.)

You probably could find a doctor somewhere relatively close to you who is

willing to do the testing for toxic metal levels and supervise the chelation

process . There are a couple of that you could post to for help

in locating a doctor in your area. You might want to check out the following

groups for help with this and other issues as well. Both of these have great

files sections and very knowledgeable participants who have been

tremendously helpful to me in learning about various interventions:

autism/

abmd/

Rita

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Wow, it's nice to have access to such a wonderful group of highly

intelligent people whose backgrounds include SCIENCE! I'm finding much

better advice here than I get from the friends I eat lunch with... :-)

Ron 's post about his height and weight reminded me of my own dilemma.

CRON, within the range of my observation and opinion, works extremely well

as regards expanding healthy lifespan. The difficulty for me, is deciding

what weight to go down to.... Here's more information than you probably

ever wanted to know about Brad.

I'm 43 years old, 5'11 " and currently weigh 208 pounds, this has been pretty

constant for 20 years although I've been as high as 217 and as low as 189

for a couple of years each along the way.

When I was 19, I was 186 pounds at the start of wrestling season and

measured 4.2% body fat. I was not a weight lifter, just worked on the

family farm. The coach, prior to having us all measured, called me the

fattest guy on the team and asked why I didn't work out over the summer...He

failed to apologize for that remark an hour later.... :-)

The BMI tables show me as overweight, even at age 19 and 4% body fat.... I

seem to have very dense muscle tissue, but I suspect a good portion of the

weight isn't tissue weight, but is structural material. My hips are wide as

evidenced by my inability to comfortably fit in the captains chairs of my

wife's Chevrolet pickup, regardless of how they are adjusted. The love

handle area (it's been a long time since anatomy, sorry) of my skeleton

feels pressure from the lumbar support, on the sides. My wrists measure

1/4 " wider than extra large, although, compared to my uncles, I am slightly

built.

So, how much of a person's body weight is typically skeletal? Based on the

information I provided, how low should I consider going. I do realize many

other factors come into play with how much past our set point we proceed.

I'd guess my set point is 189 pounds or so. Does carrying excess lean

tissue shorten lifespan? What quantifies as excess lean mass? Do you have

to be extra careful losing lean tissue? Wouldn't losing lean tissue also

reduce the size of the various organs? Aren't oversized organs the

equivalent of having a larger engine in your vehicle? Wouldn't having a

larger engine that worked less, produce a longer lifespan?

All these questions and only my brain to answer them.... I appreciate your

input.

Oh, the constipation problem is easy to fix unless there is some

medical problem. Simply do 4-500 stomach crunches. iev (sp?), the

great Cuban? Weightlifter said that all strength comes from the stomach, and

from the perspective of your trunk area being your stomach, he was correct.

Even if this doesn't solve the constipation problem, you'll feel and look

better!

See ya,

Brad

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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:37:06 -0800 (PST)

From: Rob <mrbosco77@...>

Subject: constipation

Ok, I admit that this is an embarrassing topic, but I

would like some help.

About 2 months ago, I read “Beyond the 120 Year Diet”

and was very impressed. About 6 weeks ago, I laid out

a plan. Being overweight (I was about 210, but I’m

down to 199 now) at 5’-11 ¾, I have a lot of weight to

lose.

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> The BMI tables show me as overweight, even at age 19

and 4% body fat.... I

> seem to have very dense muscle tissue, but I suspect a

good portion of the

> weight isn't tissue weight, but is structural material.

The caloric value of maximum lifespan differs widelly

between species. I suspect that this includes humans,

that have a wide variety. In your case I think it's

safer to measure the BMR which is the minimum and

eat a little more, say BMR+400 more calories.

> So, how much of a person's body weight is typically

skeletal?

Remember that bones are metabolic active tissue.

>Based on the information I provided, how low should I

consider going.

The basal metabolic rate (BMR) is the minimum you

can safely go. Below it you will have decrease in

BMR with loss of vital tissue (dangerous).

> I'd guess my set point is 189 pounds or so. Does

carrying excess lean

> tissue shorten lifespan?

IMHO, as a reseacher it depends. Lean tissues

armazen glicogen and consume calories, but

I think it's the exposure to the calories that

counts, not the calories itself.

EOD feeding in rats extends their lifespans

without reduction of mean caloric intake.

I guess that is because they

have more cells, but each one of the cells exposed

to the same level of caloric stress (read the papers

on this you will see that the caloric ballance is

zero in the rat when it was in EOD feeding).

What is the human equivalent of such approach?

Its a approach that has zero energy ballance.

If the energy ballance is zero than you are

in equivalent of an life extension caused by a CR50 diet

(for the rat), assuming, of course,

that you are not exercising too

much. But to achieve this you need to ingest a

lot of calories in one day and wait until they all get

consumed to start eating again (equivalent of EOD

approach). But this CANNOT be done from one day

to the other without an adaptation period.

Experiments shows that this can short lifespan of

rats if the change is too abrupt and radical (from

one day to the other, without adaptation period).

>What quantifies as excess lean mass?

Answered above: More calories ingested

than what is actually consumed by all organs or

possibly disproportionality (discussed below).

>Do you have to be extra careful losing lean tissue?

Having extra weight (in form of lean tissue or

body fat, doesn't matters) at the same caloric

value means longer lifespan ( becuse of more

" dormancy " in the cells, in raw terms).

I don't think loosing too much lean tissue in shorter

time is a good idea, because the body consumes fat first

(and the heart is a muscle, remember?).

>Wouldn't losing lean tissue also

> reduce the size of the various organs?

Yes. In CR the size of organs is small, but the

organs are more efficient than in AL. But IMO a factor

of proportionality need to be preserved when loosing

lean tissue. Losing muscles too quickly could

be disastrous to your body machine!!

If your organs are already small

compared to skeletal muscle mass, what would happen

if they shrink more? So...

Moderation... Moderation...

>Aren't oversized organs the

> equivalent of having a larger engine in your vehicle?

As I pointed above, not necessarily.

This is controversal. Consider

rats in EOD feeding. They live 50% longer, but expend

the same caloric value as AL-controls. They have

large engines. But they live longer. What about it?

>Wouldn't having a

> larger engine that worked less, produce a longer

lifespan?

Therically Yes. This is ROL (rate of living) theory.

But, the only way to slow down the speed of chemical

transformations on biochemical engine, is to

lower the body temperature.

In some cases (too low temp) the proteins get

denatured (cold denaturation).

In homeothermic this cannot be done. Only in

drosophilas, fish and pekilotermic animals.

So it's impossible make the system work less...

CR induces dormancy in the cells. The metabolism

is inhibited and they work less temporaly, but

something strange happens thereafter: the celular

metabolism returns to the point they start.

The interpretation of this phenomenon varies

betwen cientists. Scientists

concluded (right or wrong?) that CR do not

works by decreasing metabolic rate.

I have mine own interpretation, that is not

the oposite from the notion above, neither an agreement

with it. I think CR works by " reversing gene expression

profile " .

> All these questions and only my brain to answer

them.... I appreciate your

> input.

Thanks. But my brain is limited and small. I let

others make sugestions and corrections/discussions to

the claims above.

-- Gandhi.

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Greetings from Yucatan- in response to Rene´s comment, the Spanish spoken here is certainly Spanish, but VERY different from that spoken in, say, Estado de Mexico o Sonora- words and expressions, as well as conceptualizations, are, as we say "Muy Yucatecos...."

Schuman, PhD

Director, Center for Scientific and Social Studies

Newton, MA, USA/Mococha, Yucatan, MX

email: CTripleS@...

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There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Cultural Competency

From: keith.bletzer@...

2. farm workers and arthritis

From: "tti, Kimber J." <knicolet@...>

3. RE: Cultural Competency

From: "Rene Quintana" <rquintana@...>

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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:12:36 -0700 (MST)

From: keith.bletzer@...

Subject: Cultural Competency

Hi Sherri,

Questions to assess what students learn from a visit to Mexico, I believe, will hinge on what forms of cultural competency you are building. Will this be working with immigrants following graduation, or more generally anyone who speaks Spanish? If either one or both, please keep in mind [here I'm singing to one of the preachers], central Mexico is but one cultural area from which immigrants originate, and Spanish is spoken and written in many forms.

More than likely, you have reviewed CLAS (Cultural and Language Appropriate Standards) that covers issues of reducing health disparities in medical facilities and human service agencies, particularly if they receive federal funding. These standards (usually fourteen) are broken down into what I view as three categories of interaction.

What I would suggest is that you develop a plan with students, almost like a contract, on what they expect to gain from the experience, such as appreciation for different lifestyles or skills in negotiating communication, where neither party is fully familiar with language-culture. While there, in consultation with yourself and associates, students can keep a diary or other form of self-

reflection, such as how community interactions may assist better provision of dental care in the village clinic. A diary documents how students are able to increase awareness of internal/external responses to cultural differences and basic commonalities that make us human. They might do this diary exercise for a week upon return, to continue improving their awareness of basic communication processes.

"Assessment" might be objective and/or subjective. Objective measures might be formal questions for which I'll let other list-serve members make suggestions. The subjective approach might incorporate a before/after exercise in which students critique one or more vignettes that illustrate sloppy communication in a cross-cultural encounter. There are texts on cross-cultural communication; even the Web might have such vignettes. Students prepare a "before" response (written) before going to Mexico (collect them), and they would amplify and improve responses upon return to the states. "After" responses could be written or oral, or both. If oral, have students discuss each other's response.

A companion exercise would be to have students create a vignette on slopping communication or cross-cultural misunderstanding, upon their return, similar to the one they used before/after working in Mexico. This would intensify skills in conceptualizing what makes one culturally competent by working out details for the opposite.

Sounds like you have a good exercise in cross-cultural communication experience planned for the students. Unusual to hear, I recognize, someone say "sounds like" when they've "read" your request, but that's the nature of communication.

V Bletzer

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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:47:20 -0500

From: "tti, Kimber J." <knicolet@...>

Subject: farm workers and arthritis

Good Morning,

I hope that you are well. This is a follow-up to Josh Sheperd's question about research on farmworkers and arthritis.

Hurting in the Farmland: Project to Teach Migrant Farm Workers Arthritis Prevention, Self-management http://www.marrtc.org/media/releases/041108project4.html

Another article found in:

this is an article we found researching it for our newsletter last

year:(ls of Internal Medicine V. 133 Issue 8, October 2000, pp 635-646).

Kimber J. tti, MSW

CARe Minority Outreach Coordinator

CARe: Communities Against Rape Initiative

Purdue University

615 W. State Street

AGAD Room 214

West Lafayette, IN 47907

765-494-6871

765-496-7383 fax

knicolet@...

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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800

From: "Rene Quintana" <rquintana@...>

Subject: RE: Cultural Competency

Dear Kieth,

You mentioned that there were difference forms of Spanish in Mexico. I was

not clear on this. Are you referring to the 200 dialectics of the

native tribes? Spanish is the same maybe a difference in regional dialects

or expressions.

Sincerely,

Rene Quintana

ALMA Del Norte

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From:

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keith.bletzer@...

Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:13 AM

Subject: [ ] Cultural Competency

Hi Sherri,

Questions to assess what students learn from a visit to Mexico, I believe,

will

hinge on what forms of cultural competency you are building. Will this be

working with immigrants following graduation, or more generally anyone who

speaks Spanish? If either one or both, please keep in mind [here I'm singing

to

one of the preachers], central Mexico is but one cultural area from which

immigrants originate, and Spanish is spoken and written in many forms.

More than likely, you have reviewed CLAS (Cultural and Language Appropriate

Standards) that covers issues of reducing health disparities in medical

facilities and human service agencies, particularly if they receive federal

funding. These standards (usually fourteen) are broken down into what I view

as

three categories of interaction.

What I would suggest is that you develop a plan with students, almost like a

contract, on what they expect to gain from the experience, such as

appreciation

for different lifestyles or skills in negotiating communication, where

neither

party is fully familiar with language-culture. While there, in consultation

with yourself and associates, students can keep a diary or other form of

self-

reflection, such as how community interactions may assist better provision

of

dental care in the village clinic. A diary documents how students are able

to

increase awareness of internal/external responses to cultural differences

and

basic commonalities that make us human. They might do this diary exercise

for a

week upon return, to continue improving their awareness of basic

communication

processes.

"Assessment" might be objective and/or subjective. Objective measures might

be

formal questions for which I'll let other list-serve members make

suggestions.

The subjective approach might incorporate a before/after exercise in which

students critique one or more vignettes that illustrate sloppy communication

in

a cross-cultural encounter. There are texts on cross-cultural communication;

even the Web might have such vignettes. Students prepare a "before" response

(written) before going to Mexico (collect them), and they would amplify and

improve responses upon return to the states. "After" responses could be

written

or oral, or both. If oral, have students discuss each other's response.

A companion exercise would be to have students create a vignette on slopping

communication or cross-cultural misunderstanding, upon their return, similar

to

the one they used before/after working in Mexico. This would intensify

skills

in conceptualizing what makes one culturally competent by working out

details

for the opposite.

Sounds like you have a good exercise in cross-cultural communication

experience

planned for the students. Unusual to hear, I recognize, someone say "sounds

like" when they've "read" your request, but that's the nature of

communication.

V Bletzer

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