Guest guest Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Hud, dude - he's a keeper! Don't let 'em go! " Do me a favor, Doc. Tell me something good. " - Ellen Burstyn in The Exorcist << In short, my doc could also see the possibility that CFS is rooted in something entirely unexpected. I like this doc a lot. He is truly open minded and willing to let me largely direct the direction of my treatment. Hud >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Charlene, You mention how many drops but what dosage does that number of drops equal??? Based on Marks recomendation I ordered the KTS I will post dosages when i get them. Laurie > From: > Reply- > Date: 4 Apr 2001 04:22:45 -0000 > > Subject: [ ] Digest Number 1046 > > > The little 4 ounce individual bottles I have follows. Please notice > that none of them require the 20 drop dosage you suggest. > > Trace Minerals > > 1) potassium phosphate 13 drops > 2) zinc sulfate 7 drops > 3) Magnesium chloride 10 drops > 4) copper sulphate 4 drops > 5) Chromium 5 drops. > 6) Manganese 7 drops > 7) Molybdenum 3 drops > > Ultra-Trace Minerals > > 8) selenium 3 drops. > 7) Iodine 3 drops > > I am interested in getting more information. For instance if the > company that originally developed the liquid minerals was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 'oxyplus ' wrote: ==== - OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. - - THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! - - This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility ...' > Take a look to the attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 I didn't write that ! I have no reason to be unsubscribed from this list . http://community.webtv.net/stephanie179/sFa mily STEPHANIE'S FAMILY believerspeak-subscribe - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CFAITH - Your Online Faith Family - http://www.cfaith.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 In a message dated 11/5/01 3:15:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: Message: 7 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:12:07 -0500 (EST) From: agasaya@... Subject: Teachers and Autoimmune Diseases The Journal of Rheumatology, published in Canada, printed an article last summer in which they cite the increased mortality rates of teachers from autoimmue diseases as opposed to the expected incidence in the general population. The journal article only briefly explored causative factors, mainly contagion from coming into contact with so many children. I wrote a letter to the editor requesting consideration of toxicological factors from poor environmental conditions. I was just informed last week that my letter was acceted for publication and should appear (for subscribers) in the next issue. Here is the text of the letter; -------------------------------------------------- To the Editor, I have just read the abstract of the study entitled, "Excess Autoimmune Disease Mortality Among School Teachers" by Walsh and DeChello, with great interest. My career as a speech pathologist in preschool settings was recently ended and I am now disabled at the age of 46 with neurological problems. I would like to raise two points which are worthy of further medical scrutiny. First, school settings are indeed hotbeds of infectious agents. Most teachers spend their first few years of teaching taking many sick days, frequenting their doctor's offices with greater regularity that at any other point in their lives and taking many courses of antibiotics for such ailments as respiratory tract/sinus infections, conjunctivitis, ringworm, scabies, bacterial G.I. infections etc. We are exposed to each child's home environment as well as the school environment in what is carried to us daily by these youngsters. Vaccinations, now including novel immunizations like Hepatitis and yearly PPD tests are also mandatory or recommended and carry their own inherent set of risks. However, one cannot ignore the contribution of environmental factors which take a huge toll upon us. My neurological problems were precipitated by a six month long course of pyrethroid (neurotoxic) pesticide spraying in the educational setting where I worked as a supervisor and therapist. Sudden onset of symptoms and signs of neurotoxicity, along with previously demonstrated sensitivities to pesticides, permitted the connection to be made between the damage as seen on a variety of tests and these toxins. Mold damage is also rife amidst school buildings making recovery from respiratory/sinus complaints difficult and inciting asthma attacks. Poorly ventilated areas gather fumes from pesticides, cleaning materials, air fresheners, newly laid flooring materials and furnishings, fresh paint, science experiments, personal fragrances/cosmetics, printed materials, drymarkers etc. Ingredients in all of the above have been noted to be health hazards by OSHA/NIOSH. Overcrowded classrooms and recirculated air in rooms with sealed windows or lacking windows all have great impact upon the health of the students and teaching staff. Let's remember to examine the environmental factors at work here in combination with infectious agents. There is usually an interaction among them which can cause the poor health of so many educators and which is regularly recognized and discussed among us. Thank you for publishing this important article. Sincerely, Barbara Rubin ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ I agree that we all need to somehow go forward as a group with our problems. I am a teacher in PA who got sick from toxic mold. I have written a book on the topic and am seeking a publisher. I have written 175 companies. So far, they have all written that the book is excellent, current and timely, but that they do not publish books of this type. I cannot afford to self-publish. Can anyone recommend someone? Who published Doug Haney's book? Also, I have been to three State Senators, the Dept of Health, the Dept of Ed etc. If we want to start a class action suit, the attorney to contact is either Duffy in Chicago or Ed Cros in Santa Ana who has had all that success with Ca. cases. Or how about Melinda Ballard's lawyer or Brockovich's firm, since she is now sick? Could we rally in some city? Meet in one location? Miriam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2002 Report Share Posted April 8, 2002 In a message dated 4/8/02 12:57:25 PM, writes: << Extended School Year >> My daughter recieve extended school year. It took a royal fight to get it, but now we get it every year. Remember that regression is NOT the only criteria for ESY, social and communication goals count toward ESY as well. Here are some nice articles about ESY. Hope this helps, M. Mom to 16, Holly 14, DS and 11 http://specialed.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oradvo cacy.org%2Fesy.htm http://specialed.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fericae.net %2Fedo%2FED321503.htm http://specialed.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fmnlegalser vices.org%2Fpublications%2FMDLC%2520Fact%2520Sheets%2Fextyear.html http://specialed.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fmorgan.k12 ..il.us%2F4rivers%2Fesy.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Charlene, Have you looked into any biomedical interventions? I've found both my ASD kids to be high in several metals and, like many other children with an autism diagnosis, they've gotten much better with chelation therapy using DMSA and ALA. We're also looking into the Metallothionein Promoter from the Pfeiffer Institute. I highly recommend you get a copy of the new McCandless book " Children With Starving Brains " . If you want further information, feel free to email me privately at r.shreffler@.... Best wishes, Rita Re: Digest Number 1046 I am open to suggestions. How do you suggest I get therapy? What special programs are out there to teach anyone? Remember I cant even get help with my childrens education here so who is to fund this ABA training? If you were in my shoes would you quit your jobs to be on medicaid? Also would like to learn how you would handle my case. Also please give me suggestions of early intervention. I already know of part B but also realize that dont work in most of the US. Do you know of any other early intervention besides what I have meantioned? thanks Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 I signed up for the research project with families of two or more children. I did read about DMSA and ALA but I got confused when it said you should have a doctor monitoring it. Never in this lifetime could I find a doctor to monitor that. Now B6 with magnesium worked. I bought some liquid from kirkman laboratories. My son hates the stuff and can sniff it out of ketchup even LOL. My daughter liked it until her father said it tastes nasty now she hates it LOL. Rita I agree that natural is best. I got a letter from my sons school requesting shots so I am going to the school and signing a exemption stating religious reasons but the reason would be medical!!! Where is the pfeiffer institute located? thanks charlene -- Re: Digest Number 1046 Charlene, Have you looked into any biomedical interventions? I've found both my ASD kids to be high in several metals and, like many other children with an autism diagnosis, they've gotten much better with chelation therapy using DMSA and ALA. We're also looking into the Metallothionein Promoter from the Pfeiffer Institute. I highly recommend you get a copy of the new McCandless book " Children With Starving Brains " . If you want further information, feel free to email me privately at r.shreffler@.... Best wishes, Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Hi Charlene, Here is the web address for the Pfeiffer Institute (in Naperville, IL--near Chicago): http://www.hriptc.org/ Click on the link for research & studies and then you can link to those related to autism. Some parents are obtaining prescriptions for the MT Promoter through their regular doctors. (I'm still checking out how we can do this. Dr. Amy Holmes--in Baton Rouge--has been prescribing this for many of her patients without them having to travel to Chicago. We're in S.W. MO and I've just starting talking to our local doctor about getting started on the Promoter--I'll post again when I figure out how we can get a prescription for it.) You probably could find a doctor somewhere relatively close to you who is willing to do the testing for toxic metal levels and supervise the chelation process . There are a couple of that you could post to for help in locating a doctor in your area. You might want to check out the following groups for help with this and other issues as well. Both of these have great files sections and very knowledgeable participants who have been tremendously helpful to me in learning about various interventions: autism/ abmd/ Rita Re: Digest Number 1046 I signed up for the research project with families of two or more children. I did read about DMSA and ALA but I got confused when it said you should have a doctor monitoring it. Never in this lifetime could I find a doctor to monitor that. Now B6 with magnesium worked. I bought some liquid from kirkman laboratories. My son hates the stuff and can sniff it out of ketchup even LOL. My daughter liked it until her father said it tastes nasty now she hates it LOL. Rita I agree that natural is best. I got a letter from my sons school requesting shots so I am going to the school and signing a exemption stating religious reasons but the reason would be medical!!! Where is the pfeiffer institute located? thanks charlene -------Original Message------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Charlene, have you tried digestive enzymes for your children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Ronda, Where do you start with Digestive Enzymes ? Is there a good book out...? Re: Digest Number 1046 > Charlene, have you tried digestive enzymes for your children? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 I'd join the autism treatment group. TONS of info. Also, check out www.houstonni.com autism treatment@groups Some people can actually go off the gf/cf diet with digestive enzymes. I just started them for my 2 yr about a week ago and am already seeing some little things. It's soooo worth checking in to. Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 I'd join the autism treatment group. TONS of info. Also, check out www.houstonni.com autism treatment@groups Some people can actually go off the gf/cf diet with digestive enzymes. I just started them for my 2 yr about a week ago and am already seeing some little things. It's soooo worth checking in to. Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 The principle misunderstood you big time. If you got upset over everything that happened youd be a basket case. One time in the social security office ate there room refreshner. The lady panicked and got mad at me for not panicking. She demanded I leave right now and take him to the ER so I had to fake it before she called DSS on me. charlene -- RE: Re: Digest Number 1046 That is exactly how I deal with situations. I was recently in an altercation with the school for suspending for behavior related to her disability and they wanted her to find another school. After this had been resolved. I was laughing about it in the presence of a principal from a different school: " She broke her nose! " and the principal said to me very rudely : " There is nothing funny about Autism. " Hello, I'm her mother! I know! That is how I deal! Christy " Grayson " <gbmprive@...> wrote: > Three things: > >One, a sense of humor is a wonderful thing. *Joking* about something >removes tension. That doesn't mean one plans to do it. In fact, >joking about it acknowledges the difficulty of the situation, and at >the same time defuses it. > >Two, the difficulty in dealing with a daughter who is borderline on >the spectrum, meaning seems quite normal in many ways, is, I think, >magnified by that very quot;normalityquot;. We are seeking a diagnosis for >Meg because, after all these years, it is finally becoming clear >that she is not growing out of her difficulties, difficulties which >seemed age-appropriate five years ago but not now. IN the >intervening years, we have been very frustrated by what has seemed >like a stubborn unwillingness to have any empathy or sense of >responsibility. > >Three, if you have infinite compassion and can always deal with your >daughter in the way she needs you to, then I applaud you and envy >you. Most of us are not able to keep our frustration completely >under wraps, especially when dealing with someone who, for all the >world, looks like an incredibly selfish, rude, but otherwise normal >person. I think Charlene was being honest with us, and seeking some >compassion, not advocating throwing water over one's child. I think >we are all better off being able to acknowledge our own frustration- >induced foibles, than having to play saint here on this list. After >all, throwing water is not in the same class as, say, locking a >child into a closet until they can quot;behavequot;, or using corporal >punishment. > >Regards, > >--Grayson >American, married to Marco (Dutchman) >mom to Meghan (11), (3), and Sophie (2) >living in Eindhoven, the Netherlands > > > > > >gt; Time for you 2 ladies to find a psychologist and get an official >gt; diagnosis, you have to do it for your daughters sakes, as well as >your >gt; own. Cheryl S [Australia] >gt; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 I bought a bottle of TMG from kirkman labs. I only gave it a couple of times because I always forget it going back and forth to fifth wheel which is my fault. I am going to get another bottle for fifth wheel and one for the house. I didnt give it enough time to work yet. I am sorry I plan too. charlene -- Re: Digest Number 1046 Charlene, have you tried digestive enzymes for your children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Thank you Rita. Also someone sent something about a study a couple of days ago. Well I wrote to them and they are to be contacting me !!!! -- Re: Digest Number 1046 Hi Charlene, Here is the web address for the Pfeiffer Institute (in Naperville, IL--near Chicago): http://www.hriptc.org/ Click on the link for research & studies and then you can link to those related to autism. Some parents are obtaining prescriptions for the MT Promoter through their regular doctors. (I'm still checking out how we can do this. Dr. Amy Holmes--in Baton Rouge--has been prescribing this for many of her patients without them having to travel to Chicago. We're in S.W. MO and I've just starting talking to our local doctor about getting started on the Promoter--I'll post again when I figure out how we can get a prescription for it.) You probably could find a doctor somewhere relatively close to you who is willing to do the testing for toxic metal levels and supervise the chelation process . There are a couple of that you could post to for help in locating a doctor in your area. You might want to check out the following groups for help with this and other issues as well. Both of these have great files sections and very knowledgeable participants who have been tremendously helpful to me in learning about various interventions: autism/ abmd/ Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Wow, it's nice to have access to such a wonderful group of highly intelligent people whose backgrounds include SCIENCE! I'm finding much better advice here than I get from the friends I eat lunch with... :-) Ron 's post about his height and weight reminded me of my own dilemma. CRON, within the range of my observation and opinion, works extremely well as regards expanding healthy lifespan. The difficulty for me, is deciding what weight to go down to.... Here's more information than you probably ever wanted to know about Brad. I'm 43 years old, 5'11 " and currently weigh 208 pounds, this has been pretty constant for 20 years although I've been as high as 217 and as low as 189 for a couple of years each along the way. When I was 19, I was 186 pounds at the start of wrestling season and measured 4.2% body fat. I was not a weight lifter, just worked on the family farm. The coach, prior to having us all measured, called me the fattest guy on the team and asked why I didn't work out over the summer...He failed to apologize for that remark an hour later.... :-) The BMI tables show me as overweight, even at age 19 and 4% body fat.... I seem to have very dense muscle tissue, but I suspect a good portion of the weight isn't tissue weight, but is structural material. My hips are wide as evidenced by my inability to comfortably fit in the captains chairs of my wife's Chevrolet pickup, regardless of how they are adjusted. The love handle area (it's been a long time since anatomy, sorry) of my skeleton feels pressure from the lumbar support, on the sides. My wrists measure 1/4 " wider than extra large, although, compared to my uncles, I am slightly built. So, how much of a person's body weight is typically skeletal? Based on the information I provided, how low should I consider going. I do realize many other factors come into play with how much past our set point we proceed. I'd guess my set point is 189 pounds or so. Does carrying excess lean tissue shorten lifespan? What quantifies as excess lean mass? Do you have to be extra careful losing lean tissue? Wouldn't losing lean tissue also reduce the size of the various organs? Aren't oversized organs the equivalent of having a larger engine in your vehicle? Wouldn't having a larger engine that worked less, produce a longer lifespan? All these questions and only my brain to answer them.... I appreciate your input. Oh, the constipation problem is easy to fix unless there is some medical problem. Simply do 4-500 stomach crunches. iev (sp?), the great Cuban? Weightlifter said that all strength comes from the stomach, and from the perspective of your trunk area being your stomach, he was correct. Even if this doesn't solve the constipation problem, you'll feel and look better! See ya, Brad ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:37:06 -0800 (PST) From: Rob <mrbosco77@...> Subject: constipation Ok, I admit that this is an embarrassing topic, but I would like some help. About 2 months ago, I read “Beyond the 120 Year Diet” and was very impressed. About 6 weeks ago, I laid out a plan. Being overweight (I was about 210, but I’m down to 199 now) at 5’-11 ¾, I have a lot of weight to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 > The BMI tables show me as overweight, even at age 19 and 4% body fat.... I > seem to have very dense muscle tissue, but I suspect a good portion of the > weight isn't tissue weight, but is structural material. The caloric value of maximum lifespan differs widelly between species. I suspect that this includes humans, that have a wide variety. In your case I think it's safer to measure the BMR which is the minimum and eat a little more, say BMR+400 more calories. > So, how much of a person's body weight is typically skeletal? Remember that bones are metabolic active tissue. >Based on the information I provided, how low should I consider going. The basal metabolic rate (BMR) is the minimum you can safely go. Below it you will have decrease in BMR with loss of vital tissue (dangerous). > I'd guess my set point is 189 pounds or so. Does carrying excess lean > tissue shorten lifespan? IMHO, as a reseacher it depends. Lean tissues armazen glicogen and consume calories, but I think it's the exposure to the calories that counts, not the calories itself. EOD feeding in rats extends their lifespans without reduction of mean caloric intake. I guess that is because they have more cells, but each one of the cells exposed to the same level of caloric stress (read the papers on this you will see that the caloric ballance is zero in the rat when it was in EOD feeding). What is the human equivalent of such approach? Its a approach that has zero energy ballance. If the energy ballance is zero than you are in equivalent of an life extension caused by a CR50 diet (for the rat), assuming, of course, that you are not exercising too much. But to achieve this you need to ingest a lot of calories in one day and wait until they all get consumed to start eating again (equivalent of EOD approach). But this CANNOT be done from one day to the other without an adaptation period. Experiments shows that this can short lifespan of rats if the change is too abrupt and radical (from one day to the other, without adaptation period). >What quantifies as excess lean mass? Answered above: More calories ingested than what is actually consumed by all organs or possibly disproportionality (discussed below). >Do you have to be extra careful losing lean tissue? Having extra weight (in form of lean tissue or body fat, doesn't matters) at the same caloric value means longer lifespan ( becuse of more " dormancy " in the cells, in raw terms). I don't think loosing too much lean tissue in shorter time is a good idea, because the body consumes fat first (and the heart is a muscle, remember?). >Wouldn't losing lean tissue also > reduce the size of the various organs? Yes. In CR the size of organs is small, but the organs are more efficient than in AL. But IMO a factor of proportionality need to be preserved when loosing lean tissue. Losing muscles too quickly could be disastrous to your body machine!! If your organs are already small compared to skeletal muscle mass, what would happen if they shrink more? So... Moderation... Moderation... >Aren't oversized organs the > equivalent of having a larger engine in your vehicle? As I pointed above, not necessarily. This is controversal. Consider rats in EOD feeding. They live 50% longer, but expend the same caloric value as AL-controls. They have large engines. But they live longer. What about it? >Wouldn't having a > larger engine that worked less, produce a longer lifespan? Therically Yes. This is ROL (rate of living) theory. But, the only way to slow down the speed of chemical transformations on biochemical engine, is to lower the body temperature. In some cases (too low temp) the proteins get denatured (cold denaturation). In homeothermic this cannot be done. Only in drosophilas, fish and pekilotermic animals. So it's impossible make the system work less... CR induces dormancy in the cells. The metabolism is inhibited and they work less temporaly, but something strange happens thereafter: the celular metabolism returns to the point they start. The interpretation of this phenomenon varies betwen cientists. Scientists concluded (right or wrong?) that CR do not works by decreasing metabolic rate. I have mine own interpretation, that is not the oposite from the notion above, neither an agreement with it. I think CR works by " reversing gene expression profile " . > All these questions and only my brain to answer them.... I appreciate your > input. Thanks. But my brain is limited and small. I let others make sugestions and corrections/discussions to the claims above. -- Gandhi. __________________________________________________________________________ Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - É grátis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 In a message dated 5/10/04 2:40:26 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > The agency's legal strategy has been led by the FDA's general counsel, > Troy, who represented Pfizer while in private practice. As a > private lawyer, he also filed lawsuits challenging the FDA's powers to > regulate tobacco and to test drugs for pediatric use. > > When Troy took up the cause on Pfizer's behalf, he advised them that putting a suicide warning on Zoloft was a bad marketing strategy and would misbrand the drug. This jackass is the conusmmate whore for Big Pharma. he got more than one irate letter from me pointing out that he was supposed to be protecting the public not securing his position at Pfizer when he left the FDA. As a result of the lies that the pharmas tell the regulators, we can never be sure if a drug was properly tested or has any severe side effects because they omit the studies that prove the dangers of the drugs. Troy is the devil incarnate. Blind Reason a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep. - Oriental proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 4. lazy member enlargement From: vivian_0hli@... Is this what [ ] is about, There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Dioxin Carcinogens in plastics..... From: " Bob Kaufman " <rckaufman@...> 2. Re: Dioxin Carcinogens in plastics..... From: " illostraight " <krayzeehrse@...> 3. Re: Dioxin Carcinogens in plastics..... From: " illostraight " <krayzeehrse@...> 4. lazy member enlargement From: vivian_0hli@... 5. HMA Press Releaste 5-11-04 From: " Shari " <surelyshari@...> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:24:29 -0000 From: vivian_0hli@... Subject: lazy member enlargement No pumps, exercises or pills. Made especially for lazy guys. Sit around and make your member larger. (seriously, check it out) http://www.opejsn.com This email was sent because you joined our group. If you do not wish to recieve any emails, unsubscribe by sending an email to -unsubscribe . ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 IT appears to be an influx on many of the health sites...not just this one. If we had a moderator, da boob would get da boot. Ann Re: [ ] Digest Number 1046 4. lazy member enlargement From: vivian_0hli@...Is this what [ ] is about,There are 5 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Dioxin Carcinogens in plastics..... From: "Bob Kaufman" <rckaufman@...> 2. Re: Dioxin Carcinogens in plastics..... From: "illostraight" <krayzeehrse@...> 3. Re: Dioxin Carcinogens in plastics..... From: "illostraight" <krayzeehrse@...> 4. lazy member enlargement From: vivian_0hli@... 5. HMA Press Releaste 5-11-04 From: "Shari " <surelyshari@...>________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:24:29 -0000 From: vivian_0hli@...Subject: lazy member enlargementNo pumps, exercises or pills.Made especially for lazy guys.Sit around and make your member larger.(seriously, check it out)http://www.opejsn.comThis email was sent because you joined our group.If you do not wish to recieve any emails, unsubscribe by sending an email to -unsubscribe .________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Greetings from Yucatan- in response to Rene´s comment, the Spanish spoken here is certainly Spanish, but VERY different from that spoken in, say, Estado de Mexico o Sonora- words and expressions, as well as conceptualizations, are, as we say "Muy Yucatecos...." Schuman, PhD Director, Center for Scientific and Social Studies Newton, MA, USA/Mococha, Yucatan, MX email: CTripleS@... -----Original Message-----From: To: Sent: 14 Mar 2006 17:06:02 -0000Subject: [ ] Digest Number 1046 There are 3 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Cultural Competency From: keith.bletzer@... 2. farm workers and arthritis From: "tti, Kimber J." <knicolet@...> 3. RE: Cultural Competency From: "Rene Quintana" <rquintana@...> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:12:36 -0700 (MST) From: keith.bletzer@... Subject: Cultural Competency Hi Sherri, Questions to assess what students learn from a visit to Mexico, I believe, will hinge on what forms of cultural competency you are building. Will this be working with immigrants following graduation, or more generally anyone who speaks Spanish? If either one or both, please keep in mind [here I'm singing to one of the preachers], central Mexico is but one cultural area from which immigrants originate, and Spanish is spoken and written in many forms. More than likely, you have reviewed CLAS (Cultural and Language Appropriate Standards) that covers issues of reducing health disparities in medical facilities and human service agencies, particularly if they receive federal funding. These standards (usually fourteen) are broken down into what I view as three categories of interaction. What I would suggest is that you develop a plan with students, almost like a contract, on what they expect to gain from the experience, such as appreciation for different lifestyles or skills in negotiating communication, where neither party is fully familiar with language-culture. While there, in consultation with yourself and associates, students can keep a diary or other form of self- reflection, such as how community interactions may assist better provision of dental care in the village clinic. A diary documents how students are able to increase awareness of internal/external responses to cultural differences and basic commonalities that make us human. They might do this diary exercise for a week upon return, to continue improving their awareness of basic communication processes. "Assessment" might be objective and/or subjective. Objective measures might be formal questions for which I'll let other list-serve members make suggestions. The subjective approach might incorporate a before/after exercise in which students critique one or more vignettes that illustrate sloppy communication in a cross-cultural encounter. There are texts on cross-cultural communication; even the Web might have such vignettes. Students prepare a "before" response (written) before going to Mexico (collect them), and they would amplify and improve responses upon return to the states. "After" responses could be written or oral, or both. If oral, have students discuss each other's response. A companion exercise would be to have students create a vignette on slopping communication or cross-cultural misunderstanding, upon their return, similar to the one they used before/after working in Mexico. This would intensify skills in conceptualizing what makes one culturally competent by working out details for the opposite. Sounds like you have a good exercise in cross-cultural communication experience planned for the students. Unusual to hear, I recognize, someone say "sounds like" when they've "read" your request, but that's the nature of communication. V Bletzer ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:47:20 -0500 From: "tti, Kimber J." <knicolet@...> Subject: farm workers and arthritis Good Morning, I hope that you are well. This is a follow-up to Josh Sheperd's question about research on farmworkers and arthritis. Hurting in the Farmland: Project to Teach Migrant Farm Workers Arthritis Prevention, Self-management http://www.marrtc.org/media/releases/041108project4.html Another article found in: this is an article we found researching it for our newsletter last year:(ls of Internal Medicine V. 133 Issue 8, October 2000, pp 635-646). Kimber J. tti, MSW CARe Minority Outreach Coordinator CARe: Communities Against Rape Initiative Purdue University 615 W. State Street AGAD Room 214 West Lafayette, IN 47907 765-494-6871 765-496-7383 fax knicolet@... [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800 From: "Rene Quintana" <rquintana@...> Subject: RE: Cultural Competency Dear Kieth, You mentioned that there were difference forms of Spanish in Mexico. I was not clear on this. Are you referring to the 200 dialectics of the native tribes? Spanish is the same maybe a difference in regional dialects or expressions. Sincerely, Rene Quintana ALMA Del Norte -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of keith.bletzer@... Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: [ ] Cultural Competency Hi Sherri, Questions to assess what students learn from a visit to Mexico, I believe, will hinge on what forms of cultural competency you are building. Will this be working with immigrants following graduation, or more generally anyone who speaks Spanish? If either one or both, please keep in mind [here I'm singing to one of the preachers], central Mexico is but one cultural area from which immigrants originate, and Spanish is spoken and written in many forms. More than likely, you have reviewed CLAS (Cultural and Language Appropriate Standards) that covers issues of reducing health disparities in medical facilities and human service agencies, particularly if they receive federal funding. These standards (usually fourteen) are broken down into what I view as three categories of interaction. What I would suggest is that you develop a plan with students, almost like a contract, on what they expect to gain from the experience, such as appreciation for different lifestyles or skills in negotiating communication, where neither party is fully familiar with language-culture. While there, in consultation with yourself and associates, students can keep a diary or other form of self- reflection, such as how community interactions may assist better provision of dental care in the village clinic. A diary documents how students are able to increase awareness of internal/external responses to cultural differences and basic commonalities that make us human. They might do this diary exercise for a week upon return, to continue improving their awareness of basic communication processes. "Assessment" might be objective and/or subjective. Objective measures might be formal questions for which I'll let other list-serve members make suggestions. The subjective approach might incorporate a before/after exercise in which students critique one or more vignettes that illustrate sloppy communication in a cross-cultural encounter. There are texts on cross-cultural communication; even the Web might have such vignettes. Students prepare a "before" response (written) before going to Mexico (collect them), and they would amplify and improve responses upon return to the states. "After" responses could be written or oral, or both. If oral, have students discuss each other's response. A companion exercise would be to have students create a vignette on slopping communication or cross-cultural misunderstanding, upon their return, similar to the one they used before/after working in Mexico. This would intensify skills in conceptualizing what makes one culturally competent by working out details for the opposite. Sounds like you have a good exercise in cross-cultural communication experience planned for the students. Unusual to hear, I recognize, someone say "sounds like" when they've "read" your request, but that's the nature of communication. V Bletzer To Post a message, send it to: Groups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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