Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I'll leave someone more experienced to describe apraxia. My short version description is they have normal to above average intelligence, can understand you receptively but cannot express. There are typically some soft neuro signs which I think are described in the archives and tongue movement is a big issue. I would chase apraxia first but with someone who knows it. Where do you live? I am sure someone can refer you to a good doc. Also, have you read the Late Talker? A must to see what you are dealing with. Many have found help with fish oil so you should consider investigating that. We had a an undetected milk allergy so I actually got my son's tongue to move by getting rid of dairy. The gut malabsorbing is another consideration. These are ideas. I think reading the book and getting to a doc are step one along with the fish oil investigation. The rest you can do over time. Breathe...you are doing good things for your child. As for frustration, consider Signingtime videos so he can sign his desires in the interim. There is also PICs...I think that is what is called, which is a picture therapy as you describe. > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Go to a pediatric neurologist, get his hearing tested by an audiologist, go to an ENT to look at his ear structure and to look for fluid. My son didn't talk either till 4yo. We had him at the pediatrician, early intervention etc at 2yo.... no one detected the fluid until the pediatric ENT. Then he got tubes and he strated talking. However, at 6yo he still had not caught up in talking, so we went to a neurologist who finally diagnosed him with apraxia. If I could do it all over again, I'd go to a neurologist first after the ENT and audiologist (who were in the same office here). Until then, take pictures, laminate them and put them on your refrigerator with mangets and let him pick the ones that apply......good luck and let us know how he's doing....!!! dian kane ilizzy03 <lizlaw@...> wrote: I'll leave someone more experienced to describe apraxia. My short version description is they have normal to above average intelligence, can understand you receptively but cannot express. There are typically some soft neuro signs which I think are described in the archives and tongue movement is a big issue. I would chase apraxia first but with someone who knows it. Where do you live? I am sure someone can refer you to a good doc. Also, have you read the Late Talker? A must to see what you are dealing with. Many have found help with fish oil so you should consider investigating that. We had a an undetected milk allergy so I actually got my son's tongue to move by getting rid of dairy. The gut malabsorbing is another consideration. These are ideas. I think reading the book and getting to a doc are step one along with the fish oil investigation. The rest you can do over time. Breathe...you are doing good things for your child. As for frustration, consider Signingtime videos so he can sign his desires in the interim. There is also PICs...I think that is what is called, which is a picture therapy as you describe. > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 --Hi, keep in mind that pulling you to what he wants IS communication. My son never did that so, short of improving my mind reading skills,it was very frustrating for all involved. You can google " PECS " for the pictures. There are a ton of free sites where you can print them off. My son didn't potty train until he was 5.5 years old. It wasn't that he couldn't communicate his need, he just was never ready. I kept the pecs book handy for him. He was great at using it for other things, just not the potty.(believe me, I tried everything!!). As for the tongue thing, is now 8 years old and his tongue just started making an appearance out one side of his mouth. There are all kinds of things that you can do with food to help him move it about. doesn't have any allergies so we use his favorite stinky cheese and put it behind his front teeth and have him get it off with his tongue. You could use anything from suckers to peanut butter. An ice cream cone is great for having them lick and I must say it's a great motivator! The only thing is you have to hold it for them so they don't get sneaky like my guy and just shove it in. If he wants it, he has to work for it! hth Sandy - In , " momofviclogan " <momofviclogan@...> wrote: > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Did all of that, they saw the fluid, did the tubes, he talked and then stopped again...anesthesia...then we went off milk and ENT confirmed milk loss would have done it...no need for tubes if the allergin was not longer putting fluid i nthe wrong place. > > > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing > most > > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local > schools > > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. > His > > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us > to > > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > > can bring the picture to me. > > > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can > call > > for me locally? > > > > Thank you!! > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 We taught my son to sign and it helped tremendously during his nonverbal phase. Now, he sometimes uses the signs in order to clarify what he's talking about. My son knew lots of signs, so he was able to communicate with him very efficiently and effectively. When I enrolled him in speech, the therapist was very happy that he already knew how to sign; for that's the first thing she would have taught him. The signing also enabled me to see just how very smart he was.....and I feel that it really helped his self esteem. @...: momofviclogan@...: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:40:34 +0000Subject: [ ] I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing mostof his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schoolsand the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncingvowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. Hisvocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understandingmost things he says. I can't potty train him because he can'tcommunicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him areawful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us towhat he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so hecan bring the picture to me.I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested forautism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. Idon't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site.Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can callfor me locally?Thank you!! _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_Medi\ aCtr_bigscreen_102007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Sandy, I am the mother of a 27 month old boy. This is a terrific site to have stumbled upon. I would encourage you to have him evaulated by a Speech Pathologist for verbal and oral apraxia. In addition to a Speech Pathologist it is imperative that you have him evaulated by a CHILD Neurologist. You may also want to consider a Developmental Peditrician ( they may not be covered by insurance). Then go to & Nobles or find it on-line, but you need to get the book, " The Late Talker. " This book will help you out step by step to determine what is going on with your child. Read this book from cover to cover. While doing these steps earlier in the summer, I also kept and continue to keep a journal of my son's words and behaviors. My son had 6 approx words at 24months in August. Now I cant keep up with all of his words. Keep in mind, every child is different, so dont expect the same conculsions with your child. What has worked with us is increased Speech Therapy, Occupational Therapy ( Lots of Motor Planning), Clean Diet and Detox Suppliments and VItamin Suppliments - Fish Oil, Omegas, Vitamin E...etc. There are many different ways of working with Apraxia and I believe that it may sound like verbal and oral apraxia. This is what my son has. If it is Verbal and or Oral apraxia, your child will need speech therapy and occupational therapy. Do these things first and consider vitamin suppliments - Fish Oil - Omega 3,6,9 by Nordic Naturals. This can be a little overwhelming at first, but you are going to have to be the strong one here for your child. There are several of us who have been in your shoes not too long ago. We continue to assist one another and will be happy to answer all questions. Honestly, the thing that I have found most important is to complete my due dilligence with the doctors and then remain openminded and seek guidance from nutritionists, and Homeopathic DAN! Docs. Here to Help, Colleen Mother of Charlie 27 Months [ ] Re: I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. --Hi, keep in mind that pulling you to what he wants IS communication. My son never did that so, short of improving my mind reading skills,it was very frustrating for all involved. You can google " PECS " for the pictures. There are a ton of free sites where you can print them off. My son didn't potty train until he was 5.5 years old. It wasn't that he couldn't communicate his need, he just was never ready. I kept the pecs book handy for him. He was great at using it for other things, just not the potty.(believe me, I tried everything!!). As for the tongue thing, is now 8 years old and his tongue just started making an appearance out one side of his mouth. There are all kinds of things that you can do with food to help him move it about. doesn't have any allergies so we use his favorite stinky cheese and put it behind his front teeth and have him get it off with his tongue. You could use anything from suckers to peanut butter. An ice cream cone is great for having them lick and I must say it's a great motivator! The only thing is you have to hold it for them so they don't get sneaky like my guy and just shove it in. If he wants it, he has to work for it! hth Sandy - In <mailto: %40> , " momofviclogan " <momofviclogan@...> wrote: > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 to compliment what Liz has stated, Apraxia also has to do with Motor Planning. [ ] Re: I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. I'll leave someone more experienced to describe apraxia. My short version description is they have normal to above average intelligence, can understand you receptively but cannot express. There are typically some soft neuro signs which I think are described in the archives and tongue movement is a big issue. I would chase apraxia first but with someone who knows it. Where do you live? I am sure someone can refer you to a good doc. Also, have you read the Late Talker? A must to see what you are dealing with. Many have found help with fish oil so you should consider investigating that. We had a an undetected milk allergy so I actually got my son's tongue to move by getting rid of dairy. The gut malabsorbing is another consideration. These are ideas. I think reading the book and getting to a doc are step one along with the fish oil investigation. The rest you can do over time. Breathe...you are doing good things for your child. As for frustration, consider Signingtime videos so he can sign his desires in the interim. There is also PICs...I think that is what is called, which is a picture therapy as you describe. > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Sandy, Ditto to everything that Colleen just said plus one thing more..... think of going milk (casien) free for a trial period to see if your child is like so many of ours. Milk congests many of the kids systems on this board, many but not all and the only way that you will know for sure if this will help is to eliminate it completely from your child's life for about 3 weeks and then add it back in in a huge way for one day and see what happens. If your child is a casien responder then this can be a HUGE piece of the puzzle for him.... Janice [ ] Re: I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. --Hi, keep in mind that pulling you to what he wants IS communication. My son never did that so, short of improving my mind reading skills,it was very frustrating for all involved. You can google " PECS " for the pictures. There are a ton of free sites where you can print them off. My son didn't potty train until he was 5.5 years old. It wasn't that he couldn't communicate his need, he just was never ready. I kept the pecs book handy for him. He was great at using it for other things, just not the potty.(believe me, I tried everything!!). As for the tongue thing, is now 8 years old and his tongue just started making an appearance out one side of his mouth. There are all kinds of things that you can do with food to help him move it about. doesn't have any allergies so we use his favorite stinky cheese and put it behind his front teeth and have him get it off with his tongue. You could use anything from suckers to peanut butter. An ice cream cone is great for having them lick and I must say it's a great motivator! The only thing is you have to hold it for them so they don't get sneaky like my guy and just shove it in. If he wants it, he has to work for it! hth Sandy - In <mailto: %40> , " momofviclogan " <momofviclogan@...> wrote: > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hi Janice, The original poster was with a 3 year old son but thanks anyway:) My guy is 8 years old and had no response to the elimination of dairy. I did give it its fair shot but no reaction either way. is a responder to fish oil and vitamin e though so at least that's something we do in addition to the therapy. sandy [childrensapraxiane t] Re: I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. --Hi, keep in mind that pulling you to what he wants IS communication. My son never did that so, short of improving my mind reading skills,it was very frustrating for all involved. You can google " PECS " for the pictures. There are a ton of free sites where you can print them off. My son didn't potty train until he was 5.5 years old. It wasn't that he couldn't communicate his need, he just was never ready. I kept the pecs book handy for him. He was great at using it for other things, just not the potty.(believe me, I tried everything!! ). As for the tongue thing, is now 8 years old and his tongue just started making an appearance out one side of his mouth. There are all kinds of things that you can do with food to help him move it about. doesn't have any allergies so we use his favorite stinky cheese and put it behind his front teeth and have him get it off with his tongue. You could use anything from suckers to peanut butter. An ice cream cone is great for having them lick and I must say it's a great motivator! The only thing is you have to hold it for them so they don't get sneaky like my guy and just shove it in. If he wants it, he has to work for it! hth Sandy - In <mailto:childrensap raxianet% 40groups. com> @groups. com, " momofviclogan " <momofviclogan@ ...> wrote: > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think when you do dairy elimination matters. In an older child properly absorbing efas I am not sure you'd see a difference even if it were causing an issue. > > > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing > most > > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local > schools > > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. > His > > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us > to > > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > > can bring the picture to me. > > > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can > call > > for me locally? > > > > Thank you!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Sandy & Everyone, I was reading yesterday on the symptoms of Omega 6 deficiency since I now know that Mark is 'highly' deficient in omega 6 via testing. One of the symptoms listed twigged my mind. It indicated that prolonged deficiency causes food intolerances and digestive issues. I wonder if that is the reason why some kids are milk responders or fish oil responders? I have been supplementing faithfully with Omega 3 (with just a little 6 & 9) with no response but it was the 'wrong' EFA for Mark!!! He actually needs the Omega 6. Maybe the kids who are not fish oil responders and who are milk responders are the ones who need more Omega 6 rather than the fish oil? I ran out and bought a bottle of borage oil and have seen almost immediate results in terms of attention, eye-contact, speech and energy levels. Anyway..... this is just a thought that I wanted to put out there to all of you to see what you think. My question would be is why would Mark be deficient in Omega 6? Theoretically he should be getting enough in his regular diet. Perhaps his body is struggling to process the good fats. I also have read that a lot of the omega 6 in our regular diet is lost in the heavy processing of modern food so that could be at issue. I just don't know anymore! Janice Mother of Mark, 12.75 [childrensapraxiane t] Re: I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. --Hi, keep in mind that pulling you to what he wants IS communication. My son never did that so, short of improving my mind reading skills,it was very frustrating for all involved. You can google " PECS " for the pictures. There are a ton of free sites where you can print them off. My son didn't potty train until he was 5.5 years old. It wasn't that he couldn't communicate his need, he just was never ready. I kept the pecs book handy for him. He was great at using it for other things, just not the potty.(believe me, I tried everything!! ). As for the tongue thing, is now 8 years old and his tongue just started making an appearance out one side of his mouth. There are all kinds of things that you can do with food to help him move it about. doesn't have any allergies so we use his favorite stinky cheese and put it behind his front teeth and have him get it off with his tongue. You could use anything from suckers to peanut butter. An ice cream cone is great for having them lick and I must say it's a great motivator! The only thing is you have to hold it for them so they don't get sneaky like my guy and just shove it in. If he wants it, he has to work for it! hth Sandy - In <mailto:childrensap raxianet% 40groups. com> @groups. com, " momofviclogan " <momofviclogan@ ...> wrote: > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing most > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local schools > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. His > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us to > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > can bring the picture to me. > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can call > for me locally? > > Thank you!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 so, are you saying that dairy should be eliminated anyway? just curious. sandy [ ] Re: I am new here and have a 3 year old who is not talking right. I think when you do dairy elimination matters. In an older child properly absorbing efas I am not sure you'd see a difference even if it were causing an issue. > > > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing > most > > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local > schools > > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is pronouncing > > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. > His > > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time understanding > > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him are > > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling us > to > > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so he > > can bring the picture to me. > > > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested for > > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is apraxia. I > > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this site. > > > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can > call > > for me locally? > > > > Thank you!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I am saying if it were me I'd give it another try. You can always go back. > > > > > > Hi my name is . I have a 3 year old who is not pronouncing > > most > > > of his letters. He is in the ECDD State program with the local > > schools > > > and the teacher thinks he is not using his tongue. He is > pronouncing > > > vowels no problem and of course the tongue is not used for those. > > His > > > vocabulary is very little and I have a very hard time > understanding > > > most things he says. I can't potty train him because he can't > > > communicate to tell me he has to go. Frustration levels for him > are > > > awful since he can't communicate. Everything turns into pulling > us > > to > > > what he wants. I was going to start taking pictures of things so > he > > > can bring the picture to me. > > > > > > I was going to take him to a neurologist soon to get him tested > for > > > autism to put my mind at ease but I am wondering if it is > apraxia. I > > > don't know much about this yet since I just stumbled upon this > site. > > > > > > Any suggestions on where to start for research or contacts I can > > call > > > for me locally? > > > > > > Thank you!! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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