Re: Age equivalence chart for PLS-4?

February 8, 2008

Is anyone looking at AP?

>

> Do you know where I could find an age equivalence chart for the

> Preschool Language Scale Fourth Edition (PLS-4)?

>

> My son's speaking vocabulary is the age equivalence of 2 years 11

mos

> and his speech is the age equivalence of less than 2 years. My son

is

> now 4 years 8 mos.

>

> I was wondering what his auditory comprehension and expressive

> communication age equivalence is. He received a standard score of

86

> and a percentile rank of 18 for auditory comprehension which places

him

> one standard deviation below the mean. He received a standard score

of

> 82 and a percentile of 12 for expressive which also places him one

> standard deviation below the mean. His total language score was 82

with

> a percentile rank of 12 which places him one standard deviation

below

> the mean.

>

> At my son's 3 years 8 mos evaluation at his private ST he was found

to

> be at 2 years 10 mos. His report said he had a mild vocabulary

deficit

> and now he has a mild to moderate vocabulary deficit? I hope he's

not

> getting worse!

>

February 8, 2008

Yes he has auditory processing issues too. I figured this out when he

just didn't seem to get things I said to him. (It's true we moms know

what's going on even if we don't know the name for it.)

I knw the age equivalence isn't reliable or something to worry about

I was just wondering. My son's SLP is out next week so I'll have to

wait a bit to ask her.

> >

> > Do you know where I could find an age equivalence chart for the

> > Preschool Language Scale Fourth Edition (PLS-4)?

> >

> > My son's speaking vocabulary is the age equivalence of 2 years 11

> mos

> > and his speech is the age equivalence of less than 2 years. My

son

> is

> > now 4 years 8 mos.

> >

> > I was wondering what his auditory comprehension and expressive

> > communication age equivalence is. He received a standard score of

> 86

> > and a percentile rank of 18 for auditory comprehension which

places

> him

> > one standard deviation below the mean. He received a standard

score

> of

> > 82 and a percentile of 12 for expressive which also places him

one

> > standard deviation below the mean. His total language score was

82

> with

> > a percentile rank of 12 which places him one standard deviation

> below

> > the mean.

> >

> > At my son's 3 years 8 mos evaluation at his private ST he was

found

> to

> > be at 2 years 10 mos. His report said he had a mild vocabulary

> deficit

> > and now he has a mild to moderate vocabulary deficit? I hope he's

> not

> > getting worse!

> >

>

February 8, 2008

No your son " isn't getting worse " , but, as your child gets older, so

do all the other children that he is compared to. These tests take

the scores based upon children with no issues, ie. a typical 4 year

old can do x,y,z. Yes, there will be some deviation, but not much.

As your developmentally delayed child gets older, the farther behind

he will be....as compaired to typical peers. Thus the skew on these

tests. This doesn't mean that your child isn't making progress, just

that the progress isn't as exponential as typical kids.

I hear ya - we just went thru the exact same thing with my daughter.

I have this same test for her at 2 1/2 yrs old, and then at 6 yrs

old. Her IQ dropped...or did it? She was scored very high at 2 1/2,

but now, is showing much lower. The evaluator explained that it

didn't mean she wasn't " progressing " but that the test was how she

did as compared to other kids her age. We did the PLS-4, the

Stanford-Binet and the Wexler (? not sure of the name on that one).

We specifically did one test that was a non-verbal test. Of course,

the language portion really brings down the other scores.

ly, I don't care what the number is. She picks up things quick!

and demonstrates things she's learned in a variety of ways - and over

a variety of situations. She's got a sense of humor, and works her

tail off. I only did these tests because I HAD to have them for

school apps for the fall.

Cheer up and hang in there!!

Stephanee

>

> Do you know where I could find an age equivalence chart for the

> Preschool Language Scale Fourth Edition (PLS-4)?

>

> My son's speaking vocabulary is the age equivalence of 2 years 11

mos

> and his speech is the age equivalence of less than 2 years. My son

is

> now 4 years 8 mos.

>

> I was wondering what his auditory comprehension and expressive

> communication age equivalence is. He received a standard score of

86

> and a percentile rank of 18 for auditory comprehension which places

him

> one standard deviation below the mean. He received a standard score

of

> 82 and a percentile of 12 for expressive which also places him one

> standard deviation below the mean. His total language score was 82

with

> a percentile rank of 12 which places him one standard deviation

below

> the mean.

>

> At my son's 3 years 8 mos evaluation at his private ST he was found

to

> be at 2 years 10 mos. His report said he had a mild vocabulary

deficit

> and now he has a mild to moderate vocabulary deficit? I hope he's

not

> getting worse!

>

February 8, 2008

Is anything being done for AP. TLP really helped us.

> > >

> > > Do you know where I could find an age equivalence chart for the

> > > Preschool Language Scale Fourth Edition (PLS-4)?

> > >

> > > My son's speaking vocabulary is the age equivalence of 2 years

11

> > mos

> > > and his speech is the age equivalence of less than 2 years. My

> son

> > is

> > > now 4 years 8 mos.

> > >

> > > I was wondering what his auditory comprehension and expressive

> > > communication age equivalence is. He received a standard score

of

> > 86

> > > and a percentile rank of 18 for auditory comprehension which

> places

> > him

> > > one standard deviation below the mean. He received a standard

> score

> > of

> > > 82 and a percentile of 12 for expressive which also places him

> one

> > > standard deviation below the mean. His total language score was

> 82

> > with

> > > a percentile rank of 12 which places him one standard deviation

> > below

> > > the mean.

> > >

> > > At my son's 3 years 8 mos evaluation at his private ST he was

> found

> > to

> > > be at 2 years 10 mos. His report said he had a mild vocabulary

> > deficit

> > > and now he has a mild to moderate vocabulary deficit? I hope

he's

> > not

> > > getting worse!

> > >

> >

>

February 9, 2008

I do agree with this: when your child is small, the difference between him/her

and other kids is marginal. As time passes and all of the children mature, the

developmental gap widens.

It takes a little jump in grade 1 and a huge leap in grade 3. At about grade 5,

there is another huge leap. Before your know it, your child is 'noticeably'

different. The way they move, speak, dress and approach world problems is

vastly different from other kids.

If I could do it again...... I'd toss every penny I had into my 3 year old for

when my child was 3...... his dyspraxia did not yet set him apart and he was not

yet so behind his peer group. Unfortunately because he was not yet so behind

his peer group, I foolishly believed the professionals who told me that he would

grow out of it.

I think they tell you this because the child is social and otherwise seemingly

very neuro-typical. Not only that, my child was the best baby in the world. He

never fussed, rarely cried and always had a joyous smile on his face. He was

just the sweetest little guy. I thought this was a reward by the universe for

previously having an extremely colicky baby in my daughter, but in reality.....

my son was not 'hearing'.

On this topic, a couple came over to my beau's house with their cutest little

boy.... I mean just darn sweet.... and I fell absolutely in love with him.

This little guy turns 2 in April and after a while I noticed that he had no

words. Then I saw it..... and I gasped..... he started to scoot on his bum

instead of crawl. I turned to his young mom and asked, " Did he always do this? "

She told me that her son rarely crawled and went straight to walking...... I

pray for this child and I pray that I am wrong.... but I see dyspraxia all over

him just by his developmental similarity to Mark. I turned to his mom and said

in a low key manner, " Oh, make sure that he crawls on his hands and knees when

he crawls for bum scooting is not good for children. They need to crawl to

develop their central nervous system. " I commented further that I had to have

Mark 'redo' crawling and creeping at the age of 11.

The child in 3.5 hours of Superbowl viewing did not get cranky once and he never

had anything but a wonderful smile on his beautiful face. But in that time, I

heard no Mamma, Dadda, juice, No or other words...... I may have heard him

whisper a couple of slight words.... at the most one or two.

Now, I don't know these people well. They are a lovely young couple and the

husband works for my Beau at his lawfirm. This kid is absolutely gorgeous.

While I don't want to be alarmist, this child should be speaking in 2 word

phrases by now, right? Or he should at least be going mmmmmm or ba ba ba or

something!

All he seemed to say was 'eeeeeeeee'.

Those of you who have apraxic babies.... please advise for I have forgotten the

relative stages for the ages.

Also, how do I tactfully give this couple a copy of The Late Talker? I do have

a really 'cool' set of Talktools Straws that serve to strengthen lip tone that I