Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 No doubt about it, some of the DAN treatments carry a risk. No doubt about it, children have died as have they in mainstream medicine. Remember when mainstream medicine thought shock treatment and lubotomies were a good plan? Some of the DAN stuff involves looking at things at a cellular level. For whatever reason, that is not a mainstream concern with kids with neuro stuff, yes soft neuro stuff, who pass the first round of basic testing that insurance allows. As for the particular child who died in the story you mentioned, I think that death occurred, if I recall right, because the wrong chelator bag was chosen. Basically he was given an accidental overdose. That can happen in mainstream medicine and does. It just does not often make the news. I am glad that story is out. It reminds all of us who even think of alternative treatments to consider the risks. We need a better DAN system with more studies. Until we get one we are stuck with Wisdom of decisions and I don't envy any parent or doctor who has to do that. Honestly, most of us are not using the Playmate of the Year 1993, Oprah, or autism press to gude our decisions. We are using our own thorough research of information from areas mainstream and otherwise. > > > > Come on!!! Price comparisons of a Dan! to a neuroMD?!! And some of > > you wonder why I get sarcastic? > > > > If your child is not apraxic and you don't have to worry about > paying > > out of pocket or advocating for almost daily speech and occupational > > therapy; don't have to worry about school placement; are not > > concerned about clinical or genetic testing for hard and soft signs > > of neurological damage; you are only comparing a neurodevelopmental > > pediatrician with a > > Dan! person (they are not all medical doctors as we know) then yes - > a > > neurodevelopmental pediatrician may be more expensive. A neuroMD is > > all many of us have ever seen -and our children are mainstreamed and > > talking and blending today. Yes I know there are some here who have > > children that didn't respond to EFAs -and have to try other > methods - > > but to disrespect neurologists and developmental pediatricians who > > spend years and years in medical school to perhaps a social worker > > who happened to attend a Dan! conference- which may be all that it > > takes to be a Dan! " doctor " As I posted before Tanner's one SLP Dr. > > Renai Jonas is listed as a Dan! doctor online somewhere and she had > > not a clue! She is not a Dan! but " perhaps went to a conference " > > > > A neuroMD however you may see once...perhaps twice -and those evals > > carry weight and credibility in the schools as well as for insurance > > (perhaps even to cover the Dan!) > > > > I know parents who spent over 20 thousand dollars on special ed > legal > > to keep their child in appropriate placement or have them moved to > > appropriate placement -to keep them in therapy...etc. Try to secure > > a special ed attorney for less then 7 thousand..on the other hand > > visit someone credible and respected -my co -author of The Late > > Talker book Dr. Marilyn Agin once and for whatever she charges she > > will write up reports that will shut up any school to listen! You > > tell me one Dan! person who has that power. On top of it -some of > > our kids don't need all the special diets and supplements to help > > them overcome. In fact if you check the archives -most don't. It > > just so happens that autism is such a buzz that more in this group > > embrace defeat autism now and that's fine -but not all need the > > methods behind it. Again -most don't. To me someone to help tell > me > > what supplements to use...that was my parent gut together with > > advisement with my children's neuroMDs- who are the only ones I > > respect. If you don't respect your child's neuroMD that doesn't > mean > > that they all are horrible. And if you want to play that game - how > > many neuroMDs have killed a child for autism treatment? I know a > few > > Dan! people did- does that mean they all have that potential? > > http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/abubakar-tariq-nadama- > killed-by-autism-quackery/ > > > > It's your choice -mine was neuroMDs - Dr. Agin is beyond awesome. > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 > My choice is both and not to please the school system which we will > not be joining as they don't know apraxia and my money is better I would think your school system would be quite pleased with your choice. They get your tax dollars and don't have to provide your child with services. Sounds like an ideal situation for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Actually , the schools get the resident tax dollars but are awarded more money per special need child enrolled in school. So they really loose if you homeschool or pull out or worse make em pay to send your child out of district because they cannot provide the appropriate education. April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Perhaps Dr. Agin can give our loop some recommendations of other neurdevelopmental peds that are accepting new patients and are along the same method as she is. That would be helpful. Our insurance has covered our visits so far but we don't find the visits very helpful after the initial evaluations and to be honest the last 'name brand' doctor wrote a report so sloppy I think he used another kids eval for my son's template (because I found the errors and made him fix the document with an amendment). April I have learned a lot from this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Looking back at my post I see that it is unclear. I did not in any way intend to specifically compare the services of a DAN doctor to a neurological doctor. Obviously, they offer completely different services. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a DAN doctor that was also neuro. I was only mentioning prices that I have encountered in my search for treatment for my son - to kind of put different costs in to perspective. I'm not sure why my posts suggests that I disrespect neurologists and/or development pediatricians. Just to set the record straight - I VERY much respect these doctors. My son has seen 2 pediatric neurologists and 2 development pediatricians. I'm a big advocate on getting second and third opinions (that is why I see at least 2)!! Also, for the record all of the DAN doctors I have seen are MDs. I'm not a fly by the seat of my pants parent. Hence, the FOUR different DAN doctors that I have seen. I, too, care very deaply about the care that my son gets and I do as much research as I can for my son before taking the advice of ANY doctor or anyone else (e.g. other parents...). I'm glad that you point out that there are quacks out there selling themselves as DAN doctors. I truly hope that parents do their research before going to any doctor!! As I said my son has seen two pediatric neurologists. I also respect my son's neurologists. Both diagnosed him with dyspraxia and did full write ups for me. Both accepted insurance. With my insurance, my visits cost me $30. I would have loved to have gone to see Dr. Agin. However, the $2500 cost was too high for me to justify the visit. I felt I could get what I needed from the other doctors. Also, the autism death you refer to was a medical error. The wrong drug was administered. It is even pointed out in the URL you posted. My mom was administered the wrong drug in the ICU once. It left her paralysed for several minutes until the nurse realized the mistake. Unfortunately, this can happen with any doctor. BTW - I tried the fish oils, vitamin E, GFCF diet, MB12 and various other supplements. Honestly, looking back, I can't say that my son was a responder to any of these. It seems, in my sons case, that intensive therapy is the key to his progress. Although, since he has made so much progress I wouldn't change one thing that I have tried. > > Come on!!! Price comparisons of a Dan! to a neuroMD?!! And some of > you wonder why I get sarcastic? > > If your child is not apraxic and you don't have to worry about paying > out of pocket or advocating for almost daily speech and occupational > therapy; don't have to worry about school placement; are not > concerned about clinical or genetic testing for hard and soft signs > of neurological damage; you are only comparing a neurodevelopmental > pediatrician with a > Dan! person (they are not all medical doctors as we know) then yes - a > neurodevelopmental pediatrician may be more expensive. A neuroMD is > all many of us have ever seen -and our children are mainstreamed and > talking and blending today. Yes I know there are some here who have > children that didn't respond to EFAs -and have to try other methods - > but to disrespect neurologists and developmental pediatricians who > spend years and years in medical school to perhaps a social worker > who happened to attend a Dan! conference- which may be all that it > takes to be a Dan! " doctor " As I posted before Tanner's one SLP Dr. > Renai Jonas is listed as a Dan! doctor online somewhere and she had > not a clue! She is not a Dan! but " perhaps went to a conference " > > A neuroMD however you may see once...perhaps twice -and those evals > carry weight and credibility in the schools as well as for insurance > (perhaps even to cover the Dan!) > > I know parents who spent over 20 thousand dollars on special ed legal > to keep their child in appropriate placement or have them moved to > appropriate placement -to keep them in therapy...etc. Try to secure > a special ed attorney for less then 7 thousand..on the other hand > visit someone credible and respected -my co -author of The Late > Talker book Dr. Marilyn Agin once and for whatever she charges she > will write up reports that will shut up any school to listen! You > tell me one Dan! person who has that power. On top of it -some of > our kids don't need all the special diets and supplements to help > them overcome. In fact if you check the archives -most don't. It > just so happens that autism is such a buzz that more in this group > embrace defeat autism now and that's fine -but not all need the > methods behind it. Again -most don't. To me someone to help tell me > what supplements to use...that was my parent gut together with > advisement with my children's neuroMDs- who are the only ones I > respect. If you don't respect your child's neuroMD that doesn't mean > that they all are horrible. And if you want to play that game -how > many neuroMDs have killed a child for autism treatment? I know a few > Dan! people did- does that mean they all have that potential? > http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/abubakar-tariq-nadama- killed-by-autism-quackery/ > > It's your choice -mine was neuroMDs - Dr. Agin is beyond awesome. > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Trust me, I don't enjoy rewarding them but I am not going to suffer through the laborious and expensive process of setting things straight. Cheaper, easier and more efficient for me to hiomeschool them, get therapy and do NACD. I just don't have that fight in me on top of the fight to get them well. > > > My choice is both and not to please the school system which we will > > not be joining as they don't know apraxia and my money is better > > > I would think your school system would be quite pleased with your > choice. They get your tax dollars and don't have to provide your child > with services. Sounds like an ideal situation for them! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Their loss of income is why I did not put him in and try to pull him out. It would be a struggle I am not up for. I'd rather lie low since they don't know what they are doing. > > Actually , the schools get the resident tax dollars but are awarded > more money per special need child enrolled in school. So they really > loose if you homeschool or pull out or worse make em pay to send your > child out of district because they cannot provide the appropriate > education. > > April > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Thanks for this list. Therapy did help my son with motor stuff but not speech before diet but it was a much slower pace, like trying to get a car to run with the wrong type of gas in it. There is, in my opinion, no magic biomed thing that will somehow avoid therapy but finding his diet and gut stuff will certainly (I hope) make future therapy more productive and help us know what the proper therapy is. He just tested positive for Lymes and we have to go for confirming testing soon. Let's hope that is not part of our current deal. I don't think I am emotionaly prepared for that. > > > > Come on!!! Price comparisons of a Dan! to a neuroMD?!! And some of > > you wonder why I get sarcastic? > > > > If your child is not apraxic and you don't have to worry about > paying > > out of pocket or advocating for almost daily speech and occupational > > therapy; don't have to worry about school placement; are not > > concerned about clinical or genetic testing for hard and soft signs > > of neurological damage; you are only comparing a neurodevelopmental > > pediatrician with a > > Dan! person (they are not all medical doctors as we know) then yes - > a > > neurodevelopmental pediatrician may be more expensive. A neuroMD is > > all many of us have ever seen -and our children are mainstreamed and > > talking and blending today. Yes I know there are some here who have > > children that didn't respond to EFAs -and have to try other > methods - > > but to disrespect neurologists and developmental pediatricians who > > spend years and years in medical school to perhaps a social worker > > who happened to attend a Dan! conference- which may be all that it > > takes to be a Dan! " doctor " As I posted before Tanner's one SLP Dr. > > Renai Jonas is listed as a Dan! doctor online somewhere and she had > > not a clue! She is not a Dan! but " perhaps went to a conference " > > > > A neuroMD however you may see once...perhaps twice -and those evals > > carry weight and credibility in the schools as well as for insurance > > (perhaps even to cover the Dan!) > > > > I know parents who spent over 20 thousand dollars on special ed > legal > > to keep their child in appropriate placement or have them moved to > > appropriate placement -to keep them in therapy...etc. Try to secure > > a special ed attorney for less then 7 thousand..on the other hand > > visit someone credible and respected -my co -author of The Late > > Talker book Dr. Marilyn Agin once and for whatever she charges she > > will write up reports that will shut up any school to listen! You > > tell me one Dan! person who has that power. On top of it -some of > > our kids don't need all the special diets and supplements to help > > them overcome. In fact if you check the archives -most don't. It > > just so happens that autism is such a buzz that more in this group > > embrace defeat autism now and that's fine -but not all need the > > methods behind it. Again -most don't. To me someone to help tell > me > > what supplements to use...that was my parent gut together with > > advisement with my children's neuroMDs- who are the only ones I > > respect. If you don't respect your child's neuroMD that doesn't > mean > > that they all are horrible. And if you want to play that game - how > > many neuroMDs have killed a child for autism treatment? I know a > few > > Dan! people did- does that mean they all have that potential? > > http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/abubakar-tariq- nadama- > killed-by-autism-quackery/ > > > > It's your choice -mine was neuroMDs - Dr. Agin is beyond awesome. > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 What did you finally see with these? f: All of the generals: L-carnitine, Vit A, B (complex), C (high dose), D (we live in Canada), E, folic acid, zinc, Q-10 & EFA's > > > > Come on!!! Price comparisons of a Dan! to a neuroMD?!! And some of > > you wonder why I get sarcastic? > > > > If your child is not apraxic and you don't have to worry about > paying > > out of pocket or advocating for almost daily speech and occupational > > therapy; don't have to worry about school placement; are not > > concerned about clinical or genetic testing for hard and soft signs > > of neurological damage; you are only comparing a neurodevelopmental > > pediatrician with a > > Dan! person (they are not all medical doctors as we know) then yes - > a > > neurodevelopmental pediatrician may be more expensive. A neuroMD is > > all many of us have ever seen -and our children are mainstreamed and > > talking and blending today. Yes I know there are some here who have > > children that didn't respond to EFAs -and have to try other > methods - > > but to disrespect neurologists and developmental pediatricians who > > spend years and years in medical school to perhaps a social worker > > who happened to attend a Dan! conference- which may be all that it > > takes to be a Dan! " doctor " As I posted before Tanner's one SLP Dr. > > Renai Jonas is listed as a Dan! doctor online somewhere and she had > > not a clue! She is not a Dan! but " perhaps went to a conference " > > > > A neuroMD however you may see once...perhaps twice -and those evals > > carry weight and credibility in the schools as well as for insurance > > (perhaps even to cover the Dan!) > > > > I know parents who spent over 20 thousand dollars on special ed > legal > > to keep their child in appropriate placement or have them moved to > > appropriate placement -to keep them in therapy...etc. Try to secure > > a special ed attorney for less then 7 thousand..on the other hand > > visit someone credible and respected -my co -author of The Late > > Talker book Dr. Marilyn Agin once and for whatever she charges she > > will write up reports that will shut up any school to listen! You > > tell me one Dan! person who has that power. On top of it -some of > > our kids don't need all the special diets and supplements to help > > them overcome. In fact if you check the archives -most don't. It > > just so happens that autism is such a buzz that more in this group > > embrace defeat autism now and that's fine -but not all need the > > methods behind it. Again -most don't. To me someone to help tell > me > > what supplements to use...that was my parent gut together with > > advisement with my children's neuroMDs- who are the only ones I > > respect. If you don't respect your child's neuroMD that doesn't > mean > > that they all are horrible. And if you want to play that game - how > > many neuroMDs have killed a child for autism treatment? I know a > few > > Dan! people did- does that mean they all have that potential? > > http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/abubakar-tariq- nadama- > killed-by-autism-quackery/ > > > > It's your choice -mine was neuroMDs - Dr. Agin is beyond awesome. > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I sure agree about the 'intensive therapy' point. If I could list in order of what has been the most effective for my child's recovery to date it would definitely look like this. #1) THERAPY a: Auditory processing issues/ ie. Listening program and digit spans: HUGE difference in my child when we normalized this!!!!! b: (gross motor) crawling/creeping/marching/skipping program (now he can play sports without falling on his face, doesn't fall down the stairs and has better visual/spatial awareness) b: (same efficiency as above but different area so equal in importance to current success) oral motor therapy including jaw strengthening, lip strengthening, tongue oral motor work plus good chewing habits. d: hand strengthening/fine motor work & deep pressure on arms and limbs e: core strength development and development of mass muscle tone throughout body core. f: daily aerobic fitness to seal it all together and keep the maintenance of overall muscle tone. #2) DIET a: Absolutely no casien, EVER! completely congests his hearing, messes with his balance and creates brain fog for my child. b: No artificial colours, flavours, msg..... clean up the diet and get rid of the GARBAGE. We do our best here but he is 12! c: Limit gluten to small amounts and consumed only with high quality enzyme. Any sign of speech regression and we pull the gluten for a minimum of a week. #3) SUPPLEMENTS a: Digestive enzymes b: Probiotics and coconut keifer water to heal the gut c: Epsom Salts baths: an absolute lifesafer when child is having issues with food intolerances that are yet unknown! d: Power 4 by Genisis: a drink made from Gogi, mangosteen, acai juice and noni berries. Provides 'instant' energy to low energy kids. I now drink it myself and have unbelievable amounts of energy: great for the immune system. The above provide 'immediate' results. Below, you really have to 'wait and see'. e: L-tyrosine, Phosphotidyl choline, DMAE, taurine: to promote focus in 'low' attention kids f: All of the generals: L-carnitine, Vit A, B (complex), C (high dose), D (we live in Canada), E, folic acid, zinc, Q-10 & EFA's Basicly.... that's how I healed my child. It is not as simple as it looks and therapy requires daily persistence and perseverance to get completed. But my boy is almost better now and the therapy really did the trick. Actually, curing the auditory processing was 3/4 the solution to my child's problems esp with school and with speech. Once we got that going, the remaining speech issues have been quite simple to correct..... almost there now. The remaining articulation issues are almost gone.... just a couple of items left to 'polish' him off. Then we will be working on 'organization skills' and 'math' (acceleration, I hope) as well as working on writing speed. We finally have it legible after all of the hand strengthening but he needs to get it faster so that he will completely eradicate the dysgraphia. That's it folks! I pray that we are almost cured! Janice Mother of Mark, 12 [sPAM] [ ] Re: DAN Dr in Central NJ Looking back at my post I see that it is unclear. I did not in any way intend to specifically compare the services of a DAN doctor to a neurological doctor. Obviously, they offer completely different services. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a DAN doctor that was also neuro. I was only mentioning prices that I have encountered in my search for treatment for my son - to kind of put different costs in to perspective. I'm not sure why my posts suggests that I disrespect neurologists and/or development pediatricians. Just to set the record straight - I VERY much respect these doctors. My son has seen 2 pediatric neurologists and 2 development pediatricians. I'm a big advocate on getting second and third opinions (that is why I see at least 2)!! Also, for the record all of the DAN doctors I have seen are MDs. I'm not a fly by the seat of my pants parent. Hence, the FOUR different DAN doctors that I have seen. I, too, care very deaply about the care that my son gets and I do as much research as I can for my son before taking the advice of ANY doctor or anyone else (e.g. other parents...). I'm glad that you point out that there are quacks out there selling themselves as DAN doctors. I truly hope that parents do their research before going to any doctor!! As I said my son has seen two pediatric neurologists. I also respect my son's neurologists. Both diagnosed him with dyspraxia and did full write ups for me. Both accepted insurance. With my insurance, my visits cost me $30. I would have loved to have gone to see Dr. Agin. However, the $2500 cost was too high for me to justify the visit. I felt I could get what I needed from the other doctors. Also, the autism death you refer to was a medical error. The wrong drug was administered. It is even pointed out in the URL you posted. My mom was administered the wrong drug in the ICU once. It left her paralysed for several minutes until the nurse realized the mistake. Unfortunately, this can happen with any doctor. BTW - I tried the fish oils, vitamin E, GFCF diet, MB12 and various other supplements. Honestly, looking back, I can't say that my son was a responder to any of these. It seems, in my sons case, that intensive therapy is the key to his progress. Although, since he has made so much progress I wouldn't change one thing that I have tried. > > Come on!!! Price comparisons of a Dan! to a neuroMD?!! And some of > you wonder why I get sarcastic? > > If your child is not apraxic and you don't have to worry about paying > out of pocket or advocating for almost daily speech and occupational > therapy; don't have to worry about school placement; are not > concerned about clinical or genetic testing for hard and soft signs > of neurological damage; you are only comparing a neurodevelopmental > pediatrician with a > Dan! person (they are not all medical doctors as we know) then yes - a > neurodevelopmental pediatrician may be more expensive. A neuroMD is > all many of us have ever seen -and our children are mainstreamed and > talking and blending today. Yes I know there are some here who have > children that didn't respond to EFAs -and have to try other methods - > but to disrespect neurologists and developmental pediatricians who > spend years and years in medical school to perhaps a social worker > who happened to attend a Dan! conference- which may be all that it > takes to be a Dan! " doctor " As I posted before Tanner's one SLP Dr. > Renai Jonas is listed as a Dan! doctor online somewhere and she had > not a clue! She is not a Dan! but " perhaps went to a conference " > > A neuroMD however you may see once...perhaps twice -and those evals > carry weight and credibility in the schools as well as for insurance > (perhaps even to cover the Dan!) > > I know parents who spent over 20 thousand dollars on special ed legal > to keep their child in appropriate placement or have them moved to > appropriate placement -to keep them in therapy...etc. Try to secure > a special ed attorney for less then 7 thousand..on the other hand > visit someone credible and respected -my co -author of The Late > Talker book Dr. Marilyn Agin once and for whatever she charges she > will write up reports that will shut up any school to listen! You > tell me one Dan! person who has that power. On top of it -some of > our kids don't need all the special diets and supplements to help > them overcome. In fact if you check the archives -most don't. It > just so happens that autism is such a buzz that more in this group > embrace defeat autism now and that's fine -but not all need the > methods behind it. Again -most don't. To me someone to help tell me > what supplements to use...that was my parent gut together with > advisement with my children's neuroMDs- who are the only ones I > respect. If you don't respect your child's neuroMD that doesn't mean > that they all are horrible. And if you want to play that game -how > many neuroMDs have killed a child for autism treatment? I know a few > Dan! people did- does that mean they all have that potential? > http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/abubakar-tariq-nadama- killed-by-autism-quackery/ > > It's your choice -mine was neuroMDs - Dr. Agin is beyond awesome. > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 A lot of growth in height (4 + inches over the last 3 months) and consistantly better health with less 'bad' days.... no more constipation and bowel issues. Pallor of skin is brighter and less wan looking. He looks healthy and vibrant now instead of sickly and 'geeky'. There is a sparkle to his eyes instead of a vague look. I know that these are the 'anti-oxidents' for life and realize that my son is not detoxifying his system well so I know that these are important to get the systems 'lubed up' and working more efficiently. Janice [sPAM] Re:[ ] Re: DAN Dr in Central NJ What did you finally see with these? f: All of the generals: L-carnitine, Vit A, B (complex), C (high dose), D (we live in Canada), E, folic acid, zinc, Q-10 & EFA's > > > > Come on!!! Price comparisons of a Dan! to a neuroMD?!! And some of > > you wonder why I get sarcastic? > > > > If your child is not apraxic and you don't have to worry about > paying > > out of pocket or advocating for almost daily speech and occupational > > therapy; don't have to worry about school placement; are not > > concerned about clinical or genetic testing for hard and soft signs > > of neurological damage; you are only comparing a neurodevelopmental > > pediatrician with a > > Dan! person (they are not all medical doctors as we know) then yes - > a > > neurodevelopmental pediatrician may be more expensive. A neuroMD is > > all many of us have ever seen -and our children are mainstreamed and > > talking and blending today. Yes I know there are some here who have > > children that didn't respond to EFAs -and have to try other > methods - > > but to disrespect neurologists and developmental pediatricians who > > spend years and years in medical school to perhaps a social worker > > who happened to attend a Dan! conference- which may be all that it > > takes to be a Dan! " doctor " As I posted before Tanner's one SLP Dr. > > Renai Jonas is listed as a Dan! doctor online somewhere and she had > > not a clue! She is not a Dan! but " perhaps went to a conference " > > > > A neuroMD however you may see once...perhaps twice -and those evals > > carry weight and credibility in the schools as well as for insurance > > (perhaps even to cover the Dan!) > > > > I know parents who spent over 20 thousand dollars on special ed > legal > > to keep their child in appropriate placement or have them moved to > > appropriate placement -to keep them in therapy...etc. Try to secure > > a special ed attorney for less then 7 thousand..on the other hand > > visit someone credible and respected -my co -author of The Late > > Talker book Dr. Marilyn Agin once and for whatever she charges she > > will write up reports that will shut up any school to listen! You > > tell me one Dan! person who has that power. On top of it -some of > > our kids don't need all the special diets and supplements to help > > them overcome. In fact if you check the archives -most don't. It > > just so happens that autism is such a buzz that more in this group > > embrace defeat autism now and that's fine -but not all need the > > methods behind it. Again -most don't. To me someone to help tell > me > > what supplements to use...that was my parent gut together with > > advisement with my children's neuroMDs- who are the only ones I > > respect. If you don't respect your child's neuroMD that doesn't > mean > > that they all are horrible. And if you want to play that game - how > > many neuroMDs have killed a child for autism treatment? I know a > few > > Dan! people did- does that mean they all have that potential? > > http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/abubakar-tariq- nadama- > killed-by-autism-quackery/ > > > > It's your choice -mine was neuroMDs - Dr. Agin is beyond awesome. > > > > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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